RAMALLAH, West Bank, March 23, 2008

Cheney: Peace Requires Painful Concessions

In Ramallah, Vice President Predicts Israeli-Palestinian Peace Agreement Will Succeed, With Caveats

  • Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas greets U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney as they review an honor guard before their meeting at Abbas' office in the West Bank city of Ramallah, Sunday, March 23, 2008. Vice President Dick Cheney began Easter Sunday with a prayer and the singing of Photo

    Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas greets U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney as they review an honor guard before their meeting at Abbas' office in the West Bank city of Ramallah, Sunday, March 23, 2008. Vice President Dick Cheney began Easter Sunday with a prayer and the singing of "Amazing Grace" at a tiny chapel in Jerusalem.  (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)

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(AP)  A Mideast peace agreement will require "painful concessions" by Israelis and Palestinians who must work together to defeat those "committed to violence," Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday.

After meeting with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Cheney stressed the U.S. commitment to the creation of an independent Palestinian state, saying it was "long overdue."

"Achieving that vision will require tremendous effort at the negotiating table and painful concessions on both sides," said Cheney, whose stop in Ramallah came just two months after President Bush's trip to the West Bank.

"It also will require a determination to keep those who are committed to violence and who refuse to accept the basic right of the other side to exist," Cheney said.

Abbas, a moderate, controls the West Bank and is battling Hamas militants who have taken charge of the Gaza Strip from Abbas-allied forces and have bombarded southern Israel with rockets.

"Terror and violence do not merely kill innocent civilians, they also kill the legitimate hopes and aspirations of the Palestinian people," Cheney said.

In their meeting, Abbas asked Cheney to help stop Israeli settlement expansion and military operations targeting militants, said Saeb Erekat, an Abbas aide.

Speaking at the press conference, Abbas thanked Cheney for U.S. support. But he also lashed out at Israel's settlements and checkpoints. To reach peace, Abbas said, "what is required is will, courage and strong support from the international community, especially the U.S."

In his remarks, Cheney said, "A negotiated end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — one that addresses the legitimate national claims of both people — will have limitless value. Years of mistrust ad violence have achieved nothing, and the extremists who have stood in the way of a settlement have only caused further grief and suffering to the Palestinian and Israeli people."

"No one," he said, "deserves to go through live in a climate of fear of deprivation. ... That should not be and must not be the direction of events in this region."

Before the session, aides to Abbas said Abbas would tell Cheney there had been little progress in peace talks since the Palestinian leader and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert agreed to a resumption at a November conference hosted by President Bush in Maryland.

Cheney said "the future belongs to the advocates of peace and reconciliation." He cited Bush as saying that "the establishment of the state of Palestinian is long overdue." The Bush administration, Cheney said, will commit resources to help the Palestinians build the infrastructure necessary to prosper.

Cheney held talks with Israeli officials in Jerusalem before flying by helicopter to the West Bank. After seeing Abbas, Cheney planned a separate meeting with Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.

The vice president began Easter Sunday with a prayer and the singing of "Amazing Grace" at a tiny chapel in Jerusalem, then launched into a day of talks about the Mideast peace process and the rising influence of Iran in the region.

"We are obviously dedicated to doing all we can as an administration to try to move the peace process forward, and obviously actively involved in dealing with the threats that we see emerging in the region — not only threats to Israel, but threats to the United States as well," Cheney said in a meeting with Israel's president, Shimon Peres.

It was clear that Cheney was referring to Iran. Peres was more specific, saying the declarations that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad makes against Israel cannot be ignored.

"We have this problem of the Iranians who want to build two satellites, the Hezbollah and the Hamas in Gaza. ... Nobody can control us and say that declarations by Ahmadinejad are less serious," Peres said. "We have to take it seriously."

He said time is of the essence in the peace negotiations, but that he believes progress is achievable.

Cheney is on a 10-day trip to the Mideast, where oil, the future of Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran's rising influence in the region have highlighted his talks with foreign leaders. His visit here is part of the Bush administration's strategy to keep the pressure on Israel and the Palestinians to reach a framework agreement for peace before Bush leaves office in January 2009.

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by rowdytexan2 March 23, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
"No one," he said, "deserves to go through live in a climate of fear of deprivation. ... That should not be and must not be the direction of events in this region."

Strange quote from the fear mongerer in his own country.
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by prinzowhales March 23, 2008 10:40 AM PDT
Cheney''s purpose in Iraq was to strongarm Iraqis into passing an oil law which would surrender control of their resources to American oil companies...one of Bush''s ''benchmarks''...

Five years ago, US armored columns made a bee line for the Oil Ministry. The goals of the invasion have not changed.

Now Cheney is in Israel...to talk...as Obama does...of peace...both are insincere.
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by prinzowhales March 23, 2008 10:44 AM PDT
Here is an article on the Cheney trip to Baghdad.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=8269

It contains much of the necessary detail that CBS has spared us...
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by pelosisaho2 March 23, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
Yes, "Painful Concessions" are required.

ALL ON THE PART OF THE PALESTINIANS. None on the part of Israel - they''ve paid their price in blood.
Go and ask all of the Genocidal Bombing victims and survivors - or the citizens of Sderot.

Time for the Palys to disarm and end the violence - or keep stupidly suffering because they love their Islamonazi leaders, whether they be in Hamas - or Fatah.
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by hotpaulie March 23, 2008 11:02 AM PDT
"shotgun" Cheney is a modern day nostradamus.
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by prinzowhales March 23, 2008 11:06 AM PDT
Here is an interesting article that provides the background for Fallon''s resignation after his agreement with Moscow, Peking and Tehran was was sabotaged by the Zionazis in the White House. It explains the Russian and NATO fleet movements as well in light of the Israeli moves against Gaza.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article155950.html

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by creeper00 March 23, 2008 11:54 AM PDT
Oh, that''s a hoot! What would D*ck Cheney know about peace?
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by starleo146 March 23, 2008 12:31 PM PDT
"No one," he said, "deserves to go through live in a climate of fear of deprivation. ... That should not be and must not be the direction of events in this region."

Strange quote from the fear mongerer in his own country.

Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 10:37 AM : Mar 23, 2008
+ repo

Can you believe this man, He goes to the middle east makes his own deal and preaches democracy is the answer in the middle east and says "SO" to the American people.
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by patriotic9 March 23, 2008 12:32 PM PDT
What was the justification of founding Isreal on Plaestine anyway, when Concentration Camps were in Germany?
What was the justification of punishing poor innocent Palestinians for the crime committed by Hitler?
Any muslim who justifies occupatiuon of American land by using his religion deserves to be deported or get killed for illegal occupation.
Same thing applies to the European invaders in Palestine who were brought into Palestine from different European countries to occupy the land of those Palestinians by force who can''t even speak the language spoken by Hitler.
Irrespective of the race and religion, all the European invaders brought into Palestine after WWII to occupy Palestinian land far away from the Concentration Camps in Germanyin the name of any religion, deseverse either to be deported or killed for illegal occupation.
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by starleo146 March 23, 2008 12:33 PM PDT
Cheney: Peace Requires Painful Concessions


And Darth Vader you have certainly showed the American people "PAIN"
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by starleo146 March 23, 2008 12:33 PM PDT
Cheney: Peace Requires Painful Concessions


And Darth Vader you have certainly showed the American people "PAIN"
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by patriotic9 March 23, 2008 12:37 PM PDT
Should we continue sacrifising GOD-NEGLECTED AMERICAN MONEY, GOD-NEGLECTED AMERICAN LIVES, GOD-NEGLECTED LIMBS of 19-20 years old GOD-NEGLECTED AMERICANS and UNHOLY LAND "UNITED STATES" for a NON-AMERICAN CAUSE, NON-AMERICAN GOD-CHOSEN PEOPLE and a NON-AMERICAN HOLY LAND far away from the CONCENTRATION CAMPS in GERMANY in order to buy HATRED, TERRORISM and 9/11 for our nation?
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by samrensho March 23, 2008 12:37 PM PDT
Shooter wants peace - and VERY lucrative rebuilding contracts for Haliburton. After all, he''s retiring in less than a year and needs the income.
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by patriotic9 March 23, 2008 12:38 PM PDT
What was the justification of founding Isreal on Plaestine anyway, when Concentration Camps were in Germany?
What was the justification of punishing poor innocent Palestinians for the crime committed by Hitler?
Any muslim who justifies occupatiuon of American land by using his religion deserves to be deported or get killed for illegal occupation.
Same thing applies to the European invaders in Palestine who were brought into Palestine from different European countries to occupy the land of those Palestinians by force who can''t even speak the language spoken by Hitler.
Irrespective of the race and religion, all the European invaders brought into Palestine after WWII to occupy Palestinian land far away from the Concentration Camps in Germany in the name of any religion, deseverse either to be deported or killed for illegal occupation.

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by patriotic9 March 23, 2008 12:47 PM PDT
Why should GOD-NEGLECTED AMERICANS work day and night to pay tax to the government and why should GOD-CHOSEN NON-AMERICANS have the right to snatch more then $3 Billion a year from our tax money to sell us HATRED, TERRORISM and 9/11?

Why shouldn''t we help Arabs in the destruction of Israel far away from the Concentration camps in Germany, to enjoy oil in cheaper prices?

Why should we give our tax dollars to the European invaders in Palestine, to buy HATRED, TERRORISM and 9/11 against GOD-NEGLECTED AMERICANS and UNHOLY LAND UNITED STATES?
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by patriotic9 March 23, 2008 12:49 PM PDT
Why should GOD-NEGLECTED AMERICANS work day and night to pay tax to the government and why should GOD-CHOSEN NON-AMERICANS have the right to snatch more then $3 Billion a year from our tax money to sell us HATRED, TERRORISM and 9/11?

Why shouldn''''t we help Arabs in the destruction of Israel far away from the Concentration camps in Germany, to enjoy oil in cheaper prices?

Why should we give our tax dollars to the European invaders in Palestine, to buy HATRED, TERRORISM and 9/11 against GOD-NEGLECTED AMERICANS and UNHOLY LAND UNITED STATES?

Because CHRISTIANITY is PSYCHOSIS and CHRISTIANS are PSYCHOTICS!
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by danstoned March 23, 2008 12:50 PM PDT
John McCains "double talk express" bought and payed for by the Israeli and Corporate America lobby, the number one and two cause of all that now ails the USA.
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by patriotic9 March 23, 2008 12:55 PM PDT
John McCains "double talk express" bought and payed for by the Israeli and Corporate America lobby, the number one and two cause of all that now ails the USA.
Posted by danstoned at 12:50 PM : Mar 23, 2008

These Republicans made so much money during Bush presidency, they don''t care about normal Middle Class Americans.
Their attitude with the Middle Class America is just like Bush''s mother who issued following remarks for Katrina victims;
"Those people were under-previliged any way!!"
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by randynason March 23, 2008 1:02 PM PDT
"Peace requires painful concessions" is Cheney''s mantra and religion.
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by danstoned March 23, 2008 1:12 PM PDT
Republicon deregulation of their Corporate sponsors is clearly the number one cause of all that now ails the US economy. Russians sell their vast oil resources within Russia for well below international market prices. When will the Republicons demand that their Corporate America sponsors (Exxon, Chevron, Standard Oil) do the same thing for Americans?

Want more of the same greed? Then vote for "double talk express" candidate John McShame.
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by irishmail42 March 23, 2008 1:19 PM PDT
"Peace will requires painful concessions by Israelis and Palestinians who must work together to defeat those "committed to violence." So tell me again why our government doesn''t use the same rhetoric in public with the Iraqi Parliament?

Give the Iraqi parliament a date certain and I bet they''ll at least give it the "ol'' college try" to make the painful political concessions.

It''s probably one of the best reasons to vote Democrat this fall.


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by stn_sage March 23, 2008 1:20 PM PDT
"No one," he said, "deserves to go through live in a climate of fear of deprivation. ...

This is rich coming from Cheney!

Like all those Americans who were made to fear for their loss of freedom if they refused to go along with the Iraq war?!

Like those who have suffered through Katrina & Rita, who still haven''t received their repair monies to rebuild their homes?!

Like poor and working-class families who are working two jobs to support their families, and yet descend into debt more and more each month?!

In other words, Americans have learned a lot about the ''fear of deprivation'' under Bush/Cheney and the GOP! God help us!
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by zootallures2 March 23, 2008 1:21 PM PDT
Even a broken clock is right once or twice a day. But then going off about Iran defeats the idea. So what if Iran wants to have satellites or what ever. They have never invaded or attacked anyone. Getting rid of morons like Shimon Peres and Olmert and the rest of the nazi superiority complex ret*ards would help. Put some real Israelites and Arabs in charge for once. The other side is mostly Ottomans. They set this war up in the 20''s with al-Huesani and Rav al-Kook to divide and conquer. Then the USSR and US took over to sell arms... and on and on. This is no different than what was done in Iraq with Shia and Sunni. It''s all false flag operations, power, and money making while innocent people are being killed so a few get rich and control their cash flow.
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by zootallures2 March 23, 2008 1:29 PM PDT
As long as the people like to hate and fall for the scams and false flag operations of the elite... there won''t be peace. You all wanna follow the idiots because it''s manly and cool, and innocent women and children have to suffer for your stupid ways and listening to morons instead of the intellegent. 9 out of 10 recomend? Maybe that 10th one is who you should listen to. Moses and all the Prophets gave 10 commandments. Not hiding a single finger or telling you rules for their own benifit or profit. Not taking advantage and no deceptions. 10.
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by blondmadison March 23, 2008 1:31 PM PDT
Like *** "So?" Cheney would know what a concession is. With his wealth, what kind of concession is he speaking of?? Does it apply to him at all?
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by wardoglrs March 23, 2008 1:32 PM PDT
This Vid Explains the truth.

http://www.heyokamagazine.com/HEYOKA.12.%20MoneyMasters.htm
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by yongamerica March 23, 2008 1:34 PM PDT
They (Iran) have never invaded or attacked anyone - zootallures2

Who are you trying to fool? Iran is the largest exporter of violence. It has proxy armies on almost every continent creating terror and violence, promoting Iran''s Fanatic ideals and goals toward being the worlds next caliphate.

Is Iran in Palestine? Yes.
Is Iran in Africa? Yes
Is Iran in Iraq? Heeeelll yes.
and on and on and on.
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by blondmadison March 23, 2008 1:36 PM PDT
When the wealthy stop bleeding the working, THAT''s when the rich fat cats like Cheney can speak of concessions.

Right now, with congress and senate voting their own pay raises, giving themselves the best of the best of health care, retirement packages and pensions, hard to listen to them - when babies all over this nation do NOT have health care...why do wealthy men think their health is much more sacred than that of a baby or elderly person or a veteran? They think that or they would not have all of that at a babies expense. Cheney needs to be removed from his assets in order for him to remember he was to REPRESENT the peoples, not bleed them bone dry for money while they are dying and he is fishing off a yacht with the Sultan of Saudi Arabia...sick garbage bag.
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by zootallures2 March 23, 2008 1:36 PM PDT
They (Iran) have never invaded or attacked anyone - zootallures2

Who are you trying to fool? Iran is the largest exporter of violence. It has proxy armies on almost every continent creating terror and violence, promoting Iran''''s Fanatic ideals and goals toward being the worlds next caliphate.

Is Iran in Palestine? Yes.
Is Iran in Africa? Yes
Is Iran in Iraq? Heeeelll yes.
and on and on and on.

Posted by yongamerica at 01:34 PM : Mar 23, 2008

Are you:
A lying smelly stupid ignorant dirty filthy evil rotten spoiled discusting greedy murdering sadistic ugly inferior satanic horrible useless trouble making sickening fake war pig jew? YES!


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by ddaryl1 March 23, 2008 1:37 PM PDT
Cheney is a ******. Sick twisted individual who''s only desire in life is wealth and power. Cheney doesn''t give a rats *** about curbing viloence or peace. he just wants to see the money roll in, and he wants to benefit fro it. His life''s past has dictated his intentions for all to see.

until Americans actually stand up to these facists and strip them of there positions we''re screred
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by danstoned March 23, 2008 1:43 PM PDT
The GOP is the party of Conservative hate and no values except greed! They get their "values" and "talking points" from the hateful FOX "News", from Rush-to-hatred Limbaugh, from Vile O''Lielly, et.al. The ONLY unifying idea of the GOP is the hatred of Bill (and now, Hilary) Clinton! Oh yeah, and they hate foreigners and they hate the French and they hate Muslims and they hate black people and they hate homosexuals and they hate "liberals" and they hate anyone who dares to suggest that they might be wrong about anything-- They hate everybody! They are the supreme HATERS!
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by taotxzen March 23, 2008 1:44 PM PDT
Cheney is in the same league with Bob Novack, both have zero credibility and are a waste of oxygen and ink (reported what they think.)
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by zootallures2 March 23, 2008 1:47 PM PDT
Fanatic ideals and goals toward being the worlds next caliphate.
Posted by yongamerica at 01:34 PM : Mar 23, 2008

But not you taking over the media, hollywood, with pornography, preaching, educating, and promoting swindling, sadism, and everything evil you can push the limits on. Blowing up the World Trade Center... and many many more with your crazy backward sun jew cluster f*ck empire from hell.
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by watcher269-2009 March 23, 2008 1:50 PM PDT
Yes - LIKE LEAVING IRAQ!

Wow PEACE!
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by zootallures2 March 23, 2008 1:56 PM PDT
No kidding. This coming from Cheney?! Mr. "Lets invade Iraq and get 4000 Americans killed for my NeoFreak Fantasy".

Posted by FloydZepp at 01:52 PM : Mar 23, 2008

Amazing. Bush squeezed the Federal Reserve to give back some money they stole into the dollar, tax returns. The FBI put out Spitzer... what next? Bush and Cheney join the army????

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by patriotic9 March 23, 2008 1:58 PM PDT
Why should GOD-NEGLECTED AMERICANS work day and night to pay tax to the government and why should GOD-CHOSEN NON-AMERICANS have the right to snatch more then $3 Billion a year from our tax money to sell us HATRED, TERRORISM and 9/11?

Why shouldn''''''''t we help Arabs in the destruction of Israel far away from the Concentration camps in Germany, to enjoy oil in cheaper prices?

Why should we give our tax dollars to the European invaders in Palestine, to buy HATRED, TERRORISM and 9/11 against GOD-NEGLECTED AMERICANS and UNHOLY LAND UNITED STATES?

Because CHRISTIANITY is PSYCHOSIS and CHRISTIANS are PSYCHOTICS!
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by patriotic9 March 23, 2008 1:59 PM PDT
What was the justification of founding Isreal on Plaestine anyway, when Concentration Camps were in Germany?
What was the justification of punishing poor innocent Palestinians for the crime committed by Hitler?
Any muslim who justifies occupatiuon of American land by using his religion deserves to be deported or get killed for illegal occupation.
Same thing applies to the European invaders in Palestine who were brought into Palestine from different European countries to occupy the land of those Palestinians by force who can''''t even speak the language spoken by Hitler.
Irrespective of the race and religion, all the European invaders brought into Palestine after WWII to occupy Palestinian land far away from the Concentration Camps in Germany in the name of any religion, deseverse either to be deported or killed for illegal occupation.
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by yongamerica March 23, 2008 2:07 PM PDT
What was the justification of founding Isreal on Plaestine - patriotic9

Maybe you should get a history lesson before you post on a subject you obviously know nothing about. You will be enlightened by the knowledge.

There never ever in history was a country called Palestine. The Palestinians were/are a low class tribe of Arabs that were never welcome in any Arab country and were in essence exiled to the worst land in that part of the world. But instead of trusting me, read a book or two.
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by zootallures2 March 23, 2008 2:07 PM PDT
Why should GOD-NEGLECTED AMERICANS work day and night to pay tax to the government and why should GOD-CHOSEN NON-AMERICANS have the right to snatch more then $3 Billion a year from our tax money to sell us HATRED, TERRORISM and 9/11?

Posted by patriotic9 at 01:58 PM : Mar 23, 2008

For tax paid subsidized R&D and engineering to go to make products in China. That comes from your tax paid credit interest on the debt. Which came from your old savings interest that went into Chinese bank investments that you borrow from.

Did you follow that?


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by yongamerica March 23, 2008 2:11 PM PDT
and many many more with your crazy backward sun jew cluster f*ck empire from hell. - zootallures2

I sense a little hostility there. Did you just read the Koran and get all fired up for the day. Why do you muslims show your ASSSES to your god six times a day? I''d think she''d find that offensive.
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by zootallures2 March 23, 2008 2:12 PM PDT
What was the justification of founding Isreal on Plaestine - patriotic9

Maybe you should get a history lesson before you post on a subject you obviously know nothing about. You will be enlightened by the knowledge.

There never ever in history was a country called Palestine. The Palestinians were/are a low class tribe of Arabs that were never welcome in any Arab country and were in essence exiled to the worst land in that part of the world. But instead of trusting me, read a book or two.

Posted by yongamerica at 02:07 PM : Mar 23, 2008

Palestine is Roman and was created by the Nazis and Ottoman allies to kill Israelites. Israel is the correct name, but was created by the Nazis and Anglos to kill the Arabs.

Al-Huesani and Rav al-Kook set up false flg operations in the 20''s where the Ottomans would kill Israelites and then the Zionists would save the day and kill Arabs. Oddly, never directly attacking each other, just civilians.


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by zootallures2 March 23, 2008 2:23 PM PDT
and many many more with your crazy backward sun jew cluster f*ck empire from hell. - zootallures2

Posted by yongamerica at 02:11 PM : Mar 23, 2008

Why don''t you learn your own bullsh*t first before you try to comprehend something intellegent like Islam. Besides Roshashanna(the celebration of Creation) and Pasover(the celebration of new existance), that talmud isn''t even good enough to wipe a donkey''s azz with. Could be concidered a rape of a mule. A blue star of David is nazi. Or is it Justice in the End? Then you are flying a flag of Islam. It''s the Star of Creation and it''s supposed to be Yellow.
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by sevenveils March 23, 2008 2:25 PM PDT
That''s a good start but what you quoted is current events. Go back a few more hundreds of years, go back a thousand years and see how this part of the world is much the same as it always was.
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by sevenveils March 23, 2008 2:26 PM PDT
zootallures2 - you must have a time bomb for a hat, picture that great cartoon. Kaboom!- thats any rational thought getting blown out of your logic.
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by zootallures2 March 23, 2008 2:29 PM PDT
That''''s a good start but what you quoted is current events. Go back a few more hundreds of years, go back a thousand years and see how this part of the world is much the same as it always was.

Posted by sevenveils at 02:25 PM : Mar 23, 2008

When the North Africans and Canaanite hee haws showed up. Then a whole flood of other morons. Before that it was happy God worshipping cave dwellers.
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by zootallures2 March 23, 2008 2:32 PM PDT
zootallures2 - you must have a time bomb for a hat, picture that great cartoon. Kaboom!- thats any rational thought getting blown out of your logic.

Posted by sevenveils at 02:26 PM : Mar 23, 2008

Any thought getting blown out of your logic, would be done with exploding toilet paper.



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by sevenveils March 23, 2008 2:35 PM PDT
Before that it was happy God worshipping cave dwellers. - zootallures2
Also known as Jews.
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by displeased March 23, 2008 2:37 PM PDT
Why don''''t you learn your own bullsh*t first before you try to comprehend something intellegent like Islam.
Posted by zootallures2

Something intelligent my a$$. You people stone "witches", oppress women, and manufacture terrorists in the name of Islam. It''s not intelligence, it''s delusional. In fact, there is no intelligence in ANY religion.
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by patriotic9 March 23, 2008 2:42 PM PDT
Maybe you should get a history lesson before you post on a subject you obviously know nothing about. You will be enlightened by the knowledge.

There never ever in history was a country called Palestine. The Palestinians were/are a low class tribe of Arabs that were never welcome in any Arab country and were in essence exiled to the worst land in that part of the world. But instead of trusting me, read a book or two.

Posted by yongamerica at 02:07 PM : Mar 23, 2008

Palestine is Roman and was created by the Nazis and Ottoman allies to kill Israelites. Israel is the correct name, but was created by the Nazis and Anglos to kill the Arabs.

Al-Huesani and Rav al-Kook set up false flg operations in the 20''''s where the Ottomans would kill Israelites and then the Zionists would save the day and kill Arabs. Oddly, never directly attacking each other, just civilians.


Where did you get your history lessons from?
From that Non-Sense bible which has thousands of conrtadictions!

Israel was founded in 1948 when people from different European countries were brought into Palestine in the name of a NON-SENSE, BACK WARD, THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD, PSYCHOTIC & RACIST RELIGIOUS BELIEF, according to which human beings are not creatd equal. They are either GOD-CHOSEN and promised a land in the Middle East or GOD-NEGLECTED and not being promised a single penny from GOD.

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by j-whitman March 23, 2008 2:47 PM PDT
Cheney: Peace Requires Painfull Concessions -- No Shiit when are you going to conceed your Isral & Iraq policies are a total failure ??
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