Bin Laden Urges Holy War Over Palestine

Al Qaeda Leader Slams Negotiations With Israel In Purported New Audio Tape

(CBS/AP)  Pan-Arab Al-Jazeera TV on Thursday broadcast what it describes as a new audio tape by Osama bin Laden in which the al Qaeda leader slams Palestinian negotiations with Israel and urges holy war for the liberation of Palestine.

Bin Laden says in the recording that "Palestine cannot be retaken by negotiations and dialogue, but with fire and iron."

If Thursday's recording proves to be that of bin Laden, it will be the second audio by the al Qaeda leader in as many days. Al-Jazeera did not say how it obtained the recording.

In a tape released Wednesday, bin Laden accused Pope Benedict XVI of helping in a "new Crusade" against Islam and warned of a "severe" reaction to European publications of cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad that insulted many Muslims.

[patriotic9]

mrconservatv, Muhammad''''s great, grandfather was a pagan, of course. He ran a religious scam in Mecca, which centered about pagan Arabs'''' worship of pre-Islamic gods in the rocks of the Kaaba, the large cube in the allegedly holiest spot in Mecca. One of the pagan gods at the time of Qusayy was named "Allah" ("god" in Arabic is a different word, "ilah," which sounds quite a bit like "Allah" to our ears), sort of like "Joe" or "Sam." Allah was one of 360 gods
Posted by Gaye5 at 07:31 AM : Mar 22, 2008


Dude this is 21st century. Who cares what Mohammad worshiped and what jesus worshiped. We live in the United States and our constitution gives us freedom of worshiping whatever god we choose to worship. At the same time our constitution separates church from states so that no enemy of United States can use an unseen god to fool the people of the United States.
There should be no place in our politics of a RACIST, UNJUST and ANTI-AMERICAN GOD who discriminated against Americans by not choosing them and not promising them a sigle penny while chosing those Non-Americans who hate his son who was himself at the same time in the human flash (I don''t know how this Non-sense worked though) and promised them a land in the middle east for calling Jesus'' mother a fornicator.
Why don''t PSYCHOTIC "CHRISTIANS" keep their PSYCHOSIS in their CHURCHES?

[nowarforzion]

US Support of Israel''s brutal oppression of the Palestinian people PRIMARY MOTIVATION for tragic attacks on the World Trade Center in 1993 and on 9/11 (look up ''Israel as a terrorist''s motivation'' in the index of James Bamford''s ''A Pretext for War'' book and access the following URL as well):

Video that gets to the Israel question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bm2GPoFfg

Additional at the following URL:

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39590

John McCain, NeoCons, the Israel Lobby and Weekly Standard (USS Liberty and Ron Paul mentioned):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLeZXrluZw

http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com/2008/03/make-people-aware-subscribe.html

Additional on Mearsheimer/Walt:

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=49800

Be sure to also access both pages of http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.BLOGSPOT.COM (click on the pictures).

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Cheney: Iran might be next US target (for Israel):

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=71055&start=680

6 Signs the U.S. May Be Headed for War in Iran (for Israel):


http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=71055&start=670

[kretos-2009]

Jesus called him Alaha in his language which aramaic was !
muslims call him Allah we call him God !

[gaye5]

mrconservatv, Muhammad''s great, grandfather was a pagan, of course. He ran a religious scam in Mecca, which centered about pagan Arabs'' worship of pre-Islamic gods in the rocks of the Kaaba, the large cube in the allegedly holiest spot in Mecca. One of the pagan gods at the time of Qusayy was named "Allah" ("god" in Arabic is a different word, "ilah," which sounds quite a bit like "Allah" to our ears), sort of like "Joe" or "Sam." Allah was one of 360 gods. He wore three hats. He was a moon god whose interests were agriculture, as well as the sword and war. He was selected as Muhammad''s favorite because of the last two hats. His symbol was the crescent moon, a familiar sight atop many a minaret.
"Qusayy was the Meccan "conventioneer par excellence," promoting and controlling the ceremonies, rituals, and all activities of pagan Arabs coming to Mecca on Hajj (yes, it was going on with exactly the same rituals many decades before Islam) to worship the stone gods of the Kaaba. He ran concession stands, facilities for room and board, transportation, and regulated rituals, procedures, and all access to the Kaaba. This religious scam was Qusayy''s livelihood at least 80 years before Muhammad was born, and it was apparently profitable.

[gaye5]

mrconservatv I didnt know that Billy graham prayed in the name of Allah and God, but just becaue he did doesnt make it right does it..
And mrconservatv, just because people have a different opinion to you is no reason to belittle them for their information that they have, be it right or wrong.

You said...In light of the ties between nearly all Christian "evangelicals" with Rev. Moon, the CIA, the Council for Foreign Relations,.... that is way out mrconservatv, for one rev moon, was a cult, the CIA is far from Christianity it is a spy agency, etc, so it appears that you are living on a parallel planet And the new world idea was NOT started by the Bushes, The modern idea of the "new world order" originated in the early 1900s with Cecil Rhodes, who advocated that the British Empire and the United States should jointly impose a Federal World Government. In order to facilitate this, Rhodes founded the Rhodes Scholarship as a global brotherhood of future leaders. And yes President George H. W. Bush''s spoke of the new world order in his speech on 11 September 1990 and it appears that they are involved.
In it he described the United States'' objectives for post-cold-war cooperation with the former Soviet Union,using the phrase "new world order". Other names for the New World Order are Illuminati Bankers, High Cabal, Fourth Reich, Synarchist International, the Cryptocracy, the power elite, and the powers that be.

[mrconservatv]

and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god.


Posted by Gaye5 at 08:58 PM : Mar 21, 2008





Me thinks you''re either a disinformation agent or clueless


Rev. Moon.

AND THE BUSH Sr. Are good good buddies too


Unity: A One World Religion?
In light of the ties between nearly all Christian "evangelicals" with Rev. Moon, the CIA, the Council for Foreign Relations, the Trilateral commission, the Bush family and Bush Sr''s "New World Order", is it any wonder that after the September 11th tragedy, Billy Graham prayed in the name of God, AND ALLAH, as dignitaries from many faiths were gathered before him? This prayer was broadcast the world over. His call was for religious cooperation and ''unity of all faiths,'' the trump of Rev. Moon.

Islam is so bad

after the September 11th tragedy, Billy Graham prayed in the name of God, AND ALLAH,

[sociallyjust]

GAYE5

You are a pretty good communicator.

Keep up the good effort to help eliminate mad ideology and acts of hate, murder and violence, especially as performed in the name of Islamic Fascism.

[gaye5]

notblue, what an excellent point, I had never thought of that, you said why dont muslims help the Palestinians themselves with food etc.. and it reminded me that it was the west which helped Indonesia when they had the tsunmi, and it is the hated west who help when anything goes wrong in Muslim countries, and they still hate us, so lets get out of there and let them go back to killing each other, they obviously have exceptionally short memories of the hell that they went through, and yes we havent succeeded as we had hoped too but that is not our fault it is their own people who are causing the hell instead of helping..

[gaye5]

It is no longer possible to avoid the fact that Allah was a pagan god in pre-Islamic times. Is it any wonder then that the symbol of Islam is the crescent moon? That a crescent moon sits on top of their mosques and minarets? That a crescent moon is found on the flags of Islamic nations? That the Muslims fast during the month which begins and ends with the appearance of the crescent moon in the sky?
It is interesting that all of the positive values extolled by Muhammad%u2019s Lord Ar-Rahman in the first forty Qur%u2019anic surahs were a subset of Bedouin values and Hanif beliefs. They promoted the protection of the weak, charity, and good deeds. Sadly, much of this would be abrogated, as would the nature of Muhammad%u2019s god. He became Allah, vengeful, paranoid, deceitful, dreadfully nasty, and violent. Allah became Muhammad%u2019s alter ego%u2014indistinguishable and inseparable.

The Muslim''s claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. Allah was a god of agriculture, war and the sword. Islams teaching is totally the opposite of Christs teaching thus they can not have the same God.

[gaye5]

No prairiefox1 Muslims dont have the same god as christians.. see below...
The hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god.
Archaeologists have uncovered temples to the Moon-god throughout the Middle East. The most wide-spread religion of the ancient world was the worship of the Moon-god who was called many different names. The most popular names were Nanna, Suen and Asimbabbar. His symbol was the crescent moon. Given the amount of artifacts concerning the worship of this Moon-god, it is clear that this was the dominant religion in Sumeria.

While they worshipped 360 gods at the Kabah in Mecca, the Moon-god was the chief deity. Mecca was in fact built as a shrine for the Moon-god.
According to numerous inscriptions, while the name of the Moon-god was Sin, his title was al- ilah, i.e. "the deity," meaning that he was the chief or high god among the gods.
The Moon-god was called al- ilah, i.e. the god, which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times.
Islamic scholar Caesar Farah concluded "There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews."

[gaye5]

sociallyjust you are right, religious leaders including christian leaders have used religion to go to war.. People werent allowed to read their bibles even if they could, and it gave religious leaders more power. People would have seen thta in the new Testerment that violence was not allowed, in fact the bible says to turn the other cheek and love your enemies.
BUT it was NOT just religious leaders who went to war, most were just evil greedy men like stalin, etc who had no religion at all..
But people implicity follow the example and teachings of their leader and most religions other than Islam preach peace.
In christianity and islam
Mohammed''s method was COMPULSION or die; Christ''s did not force anyone.
Mohammed''s and his disciples killed for their faith; Christ''s and his disciples were killed for their faith.
Mohammed and his fellow warriors murdered thousands; Christ murdered none but saved many.
Mohammed preached "Death to the infidels!"; Christ prayed "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do"
Mohammed called upon his servants to fight; Jesus said to love your neighbour as yourself and forgive and love your enemy.
The Koran (Qu''ran) is a terrorist manual which condones fighting, conflict, terror, slaughter, and genocide against those who do not accept Islam; the Bible is to spread the gospel of peace to all the world (Rom. 10:15).

[candide777]

Imagine there''s no Heaven
It''s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there''s no countries
It isn''t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I''m a dreamer
But I''m not the only one
I hope someday you''ll join us
And the world will be as one

-- John Lennon

[zootallures2]

The tape really said "Buy Binex products. After the bombing, Binex is there! Act now and get our military base special. And don''t for get out partners: McDonald Douglas, Beoing, Lockheed Martin, Haliburton, Black Water, Grumins, Raytheon...and many many more!"

[zootallures2]

Why doesn''''t Bin Laden urge the Arab world to hrlp the Palestinians DIRECTLY. Why do these radicals think "wiping Israel off the map" will help the Palestinians destitution? Wouldn''''t money, aide, technology, jobs, etc. from the richest ARAB countries who dominate the middle east help more? I guess if all the surroudnig ARAB NATIONS actually helped the Palestinians there would be NO REASON to hate Israel.

Posted by notblue at 01:01 PM : Mar 21, 2008

Al-Huesaini and Rav al Kook started schools and false flag terror to make sure this never happens in the future. If the Isaelites and Arabs are united... then Iran...Lebanon... you westerners would be the f*ck out of the middle east by force. You wouldn''t enslave or exploit nobody. Most likely, you evil, impossible to teach to follow God morons would probably need to be put in a zoo where you can''t hurt anyone.

[notblue]

Why doesn''t Bin Laden urge the Arab world to hrlp the Palestinians DIRECTLY. Why do these radicals think "wiping Israel off the map" will help the Palestinians destitution? Wouldn''t money, aide, technology, jobs, etc. from the richest ARAB countries who dominate the middle east help more? I guess if all the surroudnig ARAB NATIONS actually helped the Palestinians there would be NO REASON to hate Israel.

[prairiefox1]

Don''t Muslims worship the same God as Christians?
Many Christians accept the Muslim claim that we both worship the same God. They claim that they call him Allah, While we call him God. It is not unusual to hear Christian leaders make such statements. Bible societies have even gone so far as to use the name Allah in the Bibles they produce for Arab Christians.
The problem with this is two-fold. First, history and archeology show clearly that Allah was worshipped as a pagan moon god long before Mohammed came on the scene.
Islam''s origins have been traced back by scholars to the ancient fertility religion of worship of the moon god which was always the dominant religion of Arabia. The moon god was worshipped by praying toward Mecca several times a day, making an annual pilgrimage to the Kabah which was a temple of the moon god, running around the Kabah seven times, caressing an idol of a black stone set in the wall of the Kabah, running between two hills, making animal sacrifices, gathering on Fridays for prayers, giving alms to the poor, etc. These were pagan rites practiced by the Arabs long before Muhammad was born.
What religion today practices the pagan rites of the moon god? Islam! This explains why the crescent moon is the symbol of Islam. It is placed on top of mosques and minarets and displayed on hats, flags, rugs, amulets and even jewelry. Every time you see the Muslim symbol of a crescent moon, you are seeing the ancient symbol of the moon god

[hungry1968]

And that''''s good enough? I''''m a little skeptical that the CIA can absolutely say for sure that the voice is Bin Laden''''s based on a scratchy copy of a tape.

Posted by avoice at 12:30 PM : Mar 21, 2008




Okay. I''ll play along. Let''s say he is dead. Now what?

[bm6005]

Why is this guy still breathing?! Oh, that''s right the Cowardly Cowboy isn''t concerned about him. I want OBL''s head on a pike entombed on the WTC site so all can see. Too bad the CC has other priorities!

[honestabe8]

juwboy: pretty rude thing to say about your cousins...

[questionnews]

F*CK YOU! People on the earth... more like spattered sh*t. I am sick and tired of what stupid ignorant lying sh*t you are. I''''''''''''''''m gonna say and do what ever I want. F*ck You! Ugly stupid discusting creatures barf!

Posted by zootallures2 at 03:20 AM : Mar 21, 2008

LOL... you sound like the French soldier who taunts the knights in Monty Python''''s "The Holy Grail".

"You stupid English pig dogs! I *** in your general direction!"

Posted by matvei1107 at 09:20 AM : Mar 21, 2008


It is said that people resort to cursing when they are unable to come up with anything intelligent to say. That certainly seems to apply to zootallures2.