March 22, 2008
Hillary's NAFTA Lie
The Nation: Clinton Distortion Kills Her Credibility on Trade Policy
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Supporters hold up signs asking Michigan's primary votes be counted as Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., is introduced at a campaign rally in Detroit, Wednesday, March 19, 2008. (AP)
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Hillary Clinton
A look at a life and career full of firsts.
What is the proper word for the claim by Hillary Clinton and the more factually disinclined supporters of her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination - made in speeches, briefings and interviews (including one by this reporter with the candidate) - that she has always been a critic of the North American Free Trade Agreement?
Now that we know from the 11,000 pages of Clinton White House documents released this week that former First Lady was an ardent advocate for NAFTA; now that we know she held at least five meetings to strategize about how to win congressional approval of the deal; now that we know she was in the thick of the manuevering to block the efforts of labor, farm, environmental and human rights groups to get a better agreement. Now that we know all of this, how should we assess the claim that Hillary's heart has always beaten to a fair-trade rhythm?
Now that we know from official records of her time as First Lady that Clinton was the featured speaker at a closed-door session where 120 women opinion leaders were hectored to pressure their congressional representatives to approve NAFTA; now that we know from ABC News reporting on the session that "her remarks were totally pro-NAFTA" and that "there was no equivocation for her support for NAFTA at the time;" now that we have these details confirmed, what should we make of Clinton's campaign claim that she was never comfortable with the militant free-trade agenda that has cost the United States hundreds of thousands of union jobs, that has idled entire industries, that has saddled this country with record trade deficits, undermined the security of working families in the US and abroad, and has forced Mexican farmers off their land into an economic refugee status that ultimately forces them to cross the Rio Grande River in search of work?
As she campaigns now, Clinton says, "I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning."
But the White House records confirm that this is not true.
Her statement is, to be precise, a lie.
When it comes to the essential test of the trade debate, Clinton has been identified as a liar - a put-in-boldface-type "L-I-A-R" liar.
Those of us who covered the 1993 NAFTA debate have frequently expressed doubts about the former First Lady's recent statements. We never heard anything at the time about her dissenting from the Clinton Administration line on trade policy. And we knew that she had defended NAFTA in the years following its enactment. But fairness required that we at least entertain that notion - promoted by the lamentable David Gergen, himself a champion of free-trade policies while working in the Clinton White House - that Hillary Clinton had been a behind-the-scenes critic. We had to at least consider the possibility that, at the very least, Clinton had been worried that advancing NAFTA would trip up her advocacy for health care reform, that she had made her concerns known and that she had absented herself from pro-NAFTA lobbying.
This was certainly the impression that Clinton and her supporters sought to create as she campaigned in Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana - states where worried workers want to know exactly where the candidates have stood and currently stand with regard to trade issues.
But that impression was a deliberate deception.
And we must all now recognize that when Hillary Clinton speaks about trade policy, she begins with a lie so blatant - that she's been "a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning" - that everything else she says must be viewed as suspect.
By John Nichols
Reprinted with permission from The Nation.
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NObama Distortion Kills His Credibility on Trade Policy
.... The Nation is a pinko-left-wing rag that cannot be trusted ....
Hillary is behind by over 100 delegates.
Hillary is losing the popular vote by almost a million.
Hillary''s "wins" in Michigan and Florida will not count because they were breaking the rules set by the DNC. In Michigan she broke her promise to remove her name from the ballot. In Florida, while she didnt campaign, she did have a "victory" celebration right after the first votes were to be tallied.
... johnny_chaos ... these lower income, uneducated folk are the ones who fight in the military for our country, milk the cows, grow the grain, and work in the factories .... you put them down and you put down America ... which is why lefties like you don''t mind that NObama supports a minister who says "God *** America!" ... you sound like an elitist who may have education ... but ZERO commonsense!!
In one of her campaign stump speeches she was blathering on about how she had to miss a welcoming ceremony because of sniper fire someplace she went while first lady. Then the tv channel showed a photo from that very welcoming ceremony. The whole schpiel about sniper bullets whizzing overhead was just lying fluff to try & convince the audience she''d "really been around".
Lies are HRC''s stock in trade. This confirmation she is also lying about her NAFTA position is very unsurprising.
Maybe somebody could post something about which she had told the truth. Now that would be surprising.
She''s said that so many times she perhaps has come to believe it.
The truth is, Bill and Hillary were and are big backers of "free trade", i.e, transnational exploitation of workers by multinational corporations.
Bill not only pushed NAFTA, but acting at the behest of Bill Gates and Larry Ellison, presided over the biggest giveaway in history of U.S. technical skills to Asians, hundreds of thousands of whom were imported to train in jobs previously held by U.S. workers, skills which they then took back to China and India along with the jobs.
And Hillary was all in favor of that until it became an embarrassment to her. Now she''s "pro-worker" since people have become aware what a scam "free trade" really is.
And she''s said that many times.
I''ve said all along, there is little difference between Clinton and McCain. They both voted for an illegal war that has cost $3 trillion dollars - money that could have saved America. Both of them lie - repeatedly - to the citizens. They answer not to the people, but to big business.
The uneducated watch Fox News for their information. A station that feeds republican, right-wing propaganda. Clinton and McCain rely on the dumbed up masses to allow them to continue raping America and the world. You can tell who these people are by the ignorant comments and profanity they use because they don''t know how to communicate.
Well, it turns out that educated young adults, educated adults, and blue collar white males have been supporting Obama in droves. While blacks primarily support Obama, they represent only 12.4% of the population. This means that the majority of Obama''s support are whites.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/23726367#23726367
http://www.standanddeliveramerica.com/a-new-kind-of-politician/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/obamas-minister-committe_b_91774.html
I couldn''t imagine either of these candiates being Commander-in-Chief along with their crop of campaign staff that would serve as the next "administration".
That''s probably why either one can win the nomination.
And to make matters worse the Democrat Party is claiming that America has only 48 states, totally ignoring the great states of Florida and Michigan. Why aren''t the Democrats COUNTING ALL THE VOTES? I thought only the GOP did that. Isn''t that what the Democrats and their close pals in our corrupt liberal MSM wolfpack press always told us? They wouldn''t be lying to us ALL these years would they? They wouldn''t do something like this themselves would they?
I wonder how the folks in the "non-states" of Florida and Michigan are going to vote in November? Will both these states being going "deep red" in November? Can a Democrat win the White House without winning Michigan?
And finally do we really want to, as Americans, vote for a Party that can''t even nominate a candidate for Prez. And vote for the Party that now controls our 110th Do-Nothing Democrat Congress with the lowest approval ratings in the history of Congress???
Can we?
Dunno about Obama thanks to being ashamed of his family (were his grandmother and half-sister monsters toward him, or are they "defeated overlord honkies" or whatever in his eyes? THAT is what voters need to decide come election-time, if he is the Dems'' nominee)
Dunno where McCain stands, apart from a very bad joke about not wanting to pick lettuce for even $50/hr, he has stances on issues that show he is middle of the road too.
Hmmm, I feel sorry for Ann Coulter and other conservatives who say they will vote for Hillary over McCain. Hillary is losing the battle, it seems. Does this mean these same conservatives will vote for Obama?
The Nation: Clinton Distortion Kills Her Credibility on Trade Policy
It isn''t just her credibility on trade issues. She lost all credibility months ago when she started her "kitchen sink" / "win at all costs" strategies a few months ago.
The only one winning in all of this is McCain. She''s only hurting herself and Obama with this "I''m not the only loser strategy".
Posted by hbevis at 06:42 PM : Mar 22, 2008
She''s not smart enough to figure it out.
Is that what the citizens of Pa want????????? I doubt those who vote for her read papers. No offense intended.
Autumn Ozog
Is that what the citizens of Pa want????????? I doubt those who vote for her read papers. No offense intended.
Autumn Ozog
Posted by redhotpapasa at 11:36 PM : Mar 22, 2008
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I AM GLAD THAT YOU SEE THIS LIKE OF ABILITY. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, BUT I THOUGHT SHE ONLY KNEW DIRTY POLITICS...:)
YOU KNOW OBAMA MAY NOT BE ANY BETTER THAN SHE IS BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW HER FOR WHAT SHE IS.
Her records released under FOIA this week shows the real Hillary. The lies about NAFTA, her international experience wooign first ladies for tea, and then the Kosovo lie about having to dodge bullets on the tarmac. Well, if that is the case Hillary, how could you give a speech on the tarmac with kids and Cheryl Crow by your side while the bullets were flying by? Please answer Hillary or her supporters.
Posted by bikinigirl2
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Who is this fancy meetwealthyboomer person, and why would I want to do it with a sugar-mommy?!
Can we?"--Posted by perceptions5
Yes, when the choice is to vote for a party that sucked the US into a needless war, based on lies promulgated by the Repug president, with 6 years of a lickspittle lackey Repug Congress that never once objected to the Repug President paying a trillion dollars for this war on a credit card, with corrupt no-bid contracts and kickbacks. A party that claims to stand for freedom but guts the Constitution. A party that inherited a budget surplus but has never run a surplus since, adding over 50% to the national debt in 7 years.
A party, the Repug party, now better termed the U.S. Fascist party, that has spat on every value it claimed it held, except perhaps pandering to religious fanatics of the extreme right with their Armageddon fantasies.
The Republican party--the party of lies, favors, and failure.
Time for a change. Either Clinton or Obama would be head and shoulders above the Repub midgets.
5 meetings over..EIGHT YEARS? How is she supposed to support OR BE AGAINST something if she doesn''t know what it is?
Nation...you''re alienating millions of true blue Dems.
you reap what you sow
And FYI, the notes in the 11,000 page records are JUST SCHEDULES, no details are provided.
Nice being swiftboated by a "progressive" publication.
Nation...you''''re alienating millions of true blue Dems."--Posted by Destardi1
Wait a minute! She never said she didn''t know what it was. She said she knew what it was and opposed it.
Big difference.
Especially when the Clinton''s are among Big Capital''s most ardent supporters of international oppression of labor.
Maybe Hillary learned that at "The Fellowship", the ultra-right wing secret society she belongs to.
What is a surprise is the state that has borne the ill-effects of NAFTA would not hold her accountable.
How is your economy doing Ohio? The Clintons do not care about how Americans make a living. The corporations want NAFTA, outsourcing, and H-1B''s. You can count on Hillary NOT to stand up for the American worker.
I resent the egregious language in this article...It is over the top and divisive...a biased piece of claptrap!
Support pro-poor trade reform. U.S. tariffs, far higher on clothes and shoes than on any other products, are the most regressive part of American tax policy. Failing to save jobs, they nonetheless raise the price of life necessities for single mothers and other low-income American families, while imposing a heavy burden on poor countries. Congressional leaders should resist the temptation to promote anti-trade policies that neither benefits Americans nor less developed countries.
Hillary Clinton
"I also want to reaffirm my commitment to the H-1B visa program and to increase the current cap. Foreign skilled workers contribute greatly to our technological development. That is well understood in Silicon Valley."
Obviously she is not concerned if American high tech workers can find work. And as this article calls out, she is not concerned with American manufacturing workers. What I resent is people like sesanders1 lack of concern for the American worker, American families, and their ever decreasing chance to grasp the American dream.
M
That is, the blind support of HRC supporters. That aspect of HRC, her pro-NAFTA support---at least---has been ''vetted'' and thoroughly substantiated! I don''t know why her supporters have such a difficult time believing this!
Hey, she sat on the board of Wal-Mart for years, all the while, THOUSANDS of women were being discriminated against, underpaid and underpromoted.
She didn''t lift a finger to help! More real evidence about how she supports women in the workplace and labor in general!
You pro-worker, pro-labor, pro-family people in Ohio who voted for Clinton, you''re all SUCKERS! You wasted your vote! She doesn''t care about you people! Open your EYES, for Jimini''s sake! You people in Pennsylvania, you''re NEXT! It''s up to you!
NOW, to call her a L I A R and not call Obama out on his lies is just plain and simple a double standard. Obama contradicted or L I E D about his knowing about the racist comments at his church and then in his speech says he knew. His lie is unforgiveable because unlike NAFTA he actively participated for 20 years, exposing his children, getting married, baptised and blessed by Rev. Wright in the church that awarded Farakahn only recently.
SO, be fair, tell the lies you want, but tell the lies of both candidates not only one, raising Obama up as some kind of saint when he is also a L I A R.
Please this kind of reporting just disgusts me and shows that people are the ones who need to change, a president is not going to change hateful reporting and hateful people, no matter what their beliefs about the candidates are.
Posted by Serrano338 at 07:15 PM : Mar 23, 2008
Sir, I would point out to you that---for a change, but probably to counterbalance the dozens of negative articles on Mr.Obama this past week---THIS article was written to expose a shortcoming of Hillary Clinton!
I sense that it''s very emotionally satisfying to Clinton supporters that ALL articles be about Obama AND critical of him, but that is hardly fair, sir and doesn''t lend itself to balanced reporting!
Please except this one article, learn from it, and consider it! If you really believe in your candidate of choice, it won''t undermine that belief, so what''s the problem?! If it does, maybe you haven''t really decided yet! HUH?
Where''s some sign that you possess an enduring "courage of your own convictions"? Do you really even HAVE any convictions? Any that you won''t deny in a heartbeat if you see some political gain in doing so?
You really make me wonder about those questions...
You really make me wonder about those questions...
Posted by IT_Oldtimer at 07:37 PM : Mar 23, 2008
My response: You have hit the nail on the head, sir! THIS may be the core question of Hillary Clinton''s political identity!
Events seem to suggest that she does not have any unulterable convictions!
For those who are not ready supporters, this is exactly what they are wondering! :)
I don''t think Clinton cares about me having a job and I also do not think Obama cares either. So why bring it up you may ask? I think politicians should be held accountable for their actions and positions. Clinton was/is for NAFTA and is for increasing the cap on H-1Bs, let the truth see light. Likewise, Obama is also for NAFTA and increasing the cap on H-1Bs. They do not care and it should be known that they are for giving American jobs to foreigners. They stand for less opportunity for you, me and our children. NAFTA, outsourcing, and H-1Bs are an ongoing assault of the American worker by corporations who have acquired self-serving governmental influence at the expense of the American worker and American families.
CBS: NAFTA Lie
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/20/opinion/main3955120.shtml
WASHINGTON POST: Bosnia Lie
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/03/hillarys_balkan_adventures_par.html
LONDON TELEGRAPH: Ireland ''Silly'' Lie
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/13/whillary113.xml
HILLARYS TUTOR: The Lecher
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IpsGryBxyEY
CBS: NAFTA Lie
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/20/opinion/main3955120.shtml
WASHINGTON POST: Bosnia Lie
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/03/hillarys_balkan_adventures_par.html
LONDON TELEGRAPH: Ireland ''Silly'' Lie
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/13/whillary113.xml
HILLARYS TUTOR: The Lecher
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IpsGryBxyEY
You CAN''T defend the truth about Hillary ''s lies. So what do you do? You bring Obama into the picture!
But thank you nonetheless for acknowledging that Hillary is a "L-I-A-R".
The silence is deafening and people are beginning to wonder...
Why wont Hillary release her tax returns? If Hillary can loan 5 million dollars to her campaign then surely the voters have a right to know the source of her funding.
The main excuse we''ve gotten so far is that Hillary Clinton just has too much on her plate. "I''m a little busy right now," she said during the Ohio debate. "I hardly have time to sleep. But I will certainly work toward releasing, and we will get that done and in the public domain."
That was three weeks ago. Two weeks ago, Howard Wolfson promised the returns would be released "on or around April 15." But weren''t the returns completed and filed a long time ago? Doesn''t Clinton''s accountant have time to print them out and make some copies (note to Clinton''s accountant: many Kinko''s are open 24 hours).
In short, it''s well past time for Hillary Clinton to be as "vetted" as she claims to already be -- and to have this vetting done now by Democratic voters rather than later by GOP hit squads. She needs to live up to the standard she laid out for Rick Lazio, the opponent in her 2000 Senate race. At that time, she hypocritically said it was "FRANKLY DISTURBING" that Lazio was holding back on releasing his tax returns and she even sent a staffer dressed as Uncle Sam to taunt him during campaign stops.
What a difference eight years -- and tens of millions of dollars (some of them from questionable Arab deals) -- can make.
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by ryindy
March 25, 2008 11:41 AM PDT
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See all 50 CommentsHillary is a liar?
Hey we knew that.
Hillary is Pro-NAFTA?
Hey we knew that too.
So where is the news in this?