WEST POINT, New York, March 16, 2008

5 Years On: Is Iraq War Only Half-Over?

3,988 Dead, More Than 60,000 Wounded, A Projected Cost Of $2 Trillion — What Is America's Continued Role?

  • Play CBS Video Video Iraq: 5 Years Later

    Five years after the U.S. invaded Iraq, the war continues to bring death and destruction. Instability, high unemployment and scarce resources cast a shadow on the quality of life. Lara Logan reports.

  • An Iraqi volunteer civilian and a U.S. soldier of 3rd Brigade Combat team, 3rd Infantry Division are reflected on a mirror as they secure the area of a check point in the Al-leg area, about 40 miles south of Baghdad, IraqMarch 11, 2008. Iraqi volunteer civilians known as Sons of Iraq guard many check points in Iraq and provide security to their neighborhoods.

    An Iraqi volunteer civilian and a U.S. soldier of 3rd Brigade Combat team, 3rd Infantry Division are reflected on a mirror as they secure the area of a check point in the Al-leg area, about 40 miles south of Baghdad, IraqMarch 11, 2008. Iraqi volunteer civilians known as Sons of Iraq guard many check points in Iraq and provide security to their neighborhoods.  (AP Photo/Petros Giannakouris)

(AP)  The cadets in his class were in high school the first U.S. bombs fell on Iraq. They know they could be well into their military careers before it's over.

Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the former No. 2 commander in Iraq, said in January that U.S. aircraft could be used to support Iraqi combat operations for "five to 10 years" along with "an appropriate number of ground forces."

That same month, Lt. Gen. James Dubik, who heads the Multi-National Security Transition Command, told the House Armed Services Committee that Iraqi officials estimate they can't assume responsibility for internal security until as late as 2012 and won't be able to defend Iraq's borders until 2018.

The insurgency, however, may not be the most worrisome problem in coming years. Some believe the worst struggle will be keeping friction between Iraq's Sunnis and Shiites from ballooning into civil war.

"I don't know anyone who pays serious attention to Iraq who thinks that we are over the hump in terms of internal violence," said Jon Alterman, the Middle East program director at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. "There are a lot of unsettled scores and no ongoing political process that seems likely to address them."

By the time of the summer's political conventions, U.S. troop strength is expected to shrink with the pullout of many of the 30,000 "surge" forces that poured into central Iraq last year. The Pentagon predicts to be at 140,000 soldiers by July, though that's still 8,000 more than the total before the surge.

Sen. John McCain, the apparent Republican presidential nominee, has predicted that the insurgency will "go on for years and years and years." But, eventually, the Iraqi forces will have to fight alone. It's the often-touted South Korean scenario: local forces someday on the front lines with a U.S. military presence in a supporting role - possibly for decades.

"A thousand years. A million years. Ten million years," McCain famously said in New Hampshire in January. "It depends on the arrangement we have with the Iraqi government."

It depends, too, on whether the Iraqis and their government can hold on. To a far lesser extent, it also hinges on world sentiment - the U.N. Security Council mandate for the U.S.-led force in Iraq is set to expire at the end of the year, which could increase international pressure for withdrawal.

But more than anything else, it depends on whether Americans are willing.

Mary Shuldt is losing patience. Living at Fort Campbell in the Kentucky lowlands, she wonders how many more times her husband and the 101st Airborne Division will be called to Iraq.

"Our families are being ripped apart," she said. "When is enough enough?"

The family of Chris Blaxton, a longtime military policeman in the Army and then the Reserve, has not been ripped apart. And yet America's fissures are apparent in this family, too, as his children reflect on the war and their own futures.

In October, Blaxton was on his second tour in Iraq and just nine days from coming home to Okemos, Mich., when a bomb tore through his Humvee, paralyzing him from the waist down.

His 16-year-old son, Kevin, had been considering enlisting in the Air Force.

Now, he says, "It's not worth it. It's just a war."

But Kevin's sister Rebecca, a high school sophomore, has a different perspective. She watched the nurses at Washington's Walter Reed Army Medical Center help her father, and she'd consider doing the same, someday, for other soldiers - even if it means going to Iraq.

It's not so much that she believes in the war, she says. It has to do with her father and the beliefs that led him to volunteer to go to Iraq.

"When you get the chance to do something for your country," Rebecca said, "do it and don't say 'no.'"

By Brian Murphy; Associated Press writers contributing to this report included Martha Irvine in Chicago, Carley Petesch in New York, Chelsea Carter in San Diego, Ryan Lenz in Evansville, Indiana, Betsy Taylor in St. Louis, Bradley Brooks in Baghdad.

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by brianbwb-2009 March 19, 2008 6:35 AM EDT
CBS is not showing the comments to the latest series of Bush lies on today''s stories. To us in Singapore, we only see the place where you compose your comment, then when you submit, it disappears.

I wonder why...: )
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by fgwbush March 18, 2008 11:41 PM EDT
the cheney,bush administration being reinstated for a second term was proof to the world how much our country has been dumbed down.it took a huge collection of fools to vote for the fools running this country.
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by schwarzzennegger March 17, 2008 11:42 PM EDT
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED !!! Remember that?... 3700 soldiers lives ago,and tens of thousands of serious American injuries ago and many-many Billions of American dollars ago? I love all these estimates of how long it will be before we can begin a drawdown of our troops.. somehow it is ALWAYS many months or years in the future, despite the fact that 5 years have passed, and things are going so wonderfully there !!! Face it.. we''re occupying a country and supporting a puppet government that will dissolve as soon as we leave regardless of when it is. Iraqis simply don''t want us occupying and running their country!
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by candide777 March 17, 2008 10:50 PM EDT
Hey, did you hear Cheney is in Iraq checking up on his investments???
Posted by truth-hurts at 03:16 PM : Mar 17, 2008

Of course, when you have no bid contracts that get paid regardless of whether your projects are complete failures, there''s really not much to check up on, just gotta make sure none of the crooks who work for you are looting the company, selling materials to Al Quaeda or something and not giving you your cut of the booty.
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by iceman_1960 March 17, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
And I believe Eliot Spitzer recently ran away after things got hard.
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by iceman_1960 March 17, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
RE: "but Americans do not run from a battle just because things get hard."

Sometimes they do.

They ran away from Lyndon Johnson"s "War on Poverty" and they went AWOL from Jerry Ford"s "WIN" ["Whip Inflation Now"] campaign.

Some even want to run away from the "War on Global Warming" and the "War on AIDS."
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by iceman_1960 March 17, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
Staying the course is good policy when, and only when, the course is a well chosen one.

Staying a bad course out of stubbornness is tantamount to treason.
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by iceman_1960 March 17, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
RE: "but Americans do not run from a battle just because things get hard."
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An intelligent redepolyment is not "running from a battle."

Bush has been saying forever that the Iraqis will stand up and we will stand down.

The time is come, and is long overdue, for that to happen.
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by liberalme March 17, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
Where was Osama Bin Laden? Iraq??--nope--were there terrorist in Iraq? nope Was AlQueda in Iraq? nope--NOT until Bush sent the majority of troops to Iraq--(rather than in Afganistan--the direction of Bin Laden) Bush used our troops as bait in Iraq--unfortunately he misjudged how difficult stealing that oil would be--and never though (ahead) for a minute it would become a civil war!

When is it he said--"we have defeated the enemy"?

Where was the Bush plan????????????????????????



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Posted by liberalme at 12:19 PM : Mar 17, 2008

Bow to your God Obamma to deliver you from the tyranny you live in your mind.
Posted by hillaryin08 at

Sorry I''m into reality---so glad I haven''t spent my life believing every morsel fed to me--how bout you Helllllllary!




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by liberalme March 17, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
Thou repeatist thyself Bob--so I will repeat myself---

Since the USA liberated Iraq, 25 million people have been saved from an evil dictator and thousands of Al Queda terrorists have been killed or captured. Yes things have gone poorly in some ways, but Americans do not run from a battle just because things get hard. Our nation has always fought through the hard, and that is what makes us great. We defeat evil and oppression no matter what the cost. We will defeat Al Queda, no matter how many Democrats plea for surrender.

Posted by bobmarisol at 07:28 AM : Mar 17, 2008

Here we come world--the US will be invading every country in the world--yes, I said world--why?? Because there is AlQueda and terrorists EVERYWHERE and we ain''''t gonna quit until we get the last terrorist (or catch the last fish in the ocean--whichever comes first)!!

Bin Laden?? Who cares about Bin Laden?? Why do you think we sent more troops to Iraq than Afganistan?

We sent troops to Iraq as bait to draw AlQueda and the terrorists there and most of all---we want the oil and the pipeline--(hehe just didn''''t think it would be this hard).

I like the "no matter what the cost" Bob--heartfelt--so glad you have such great respect for human life, you''d probably send your own mother off th Iraq--no matter what the cost. Sheesh!!

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by iceman_1960 March 17, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
Is that idiot jwind1 here ?

This morning he challenged me to PROVE that George W. Bush had ever been guilty of misspelling a word in his entire life.

Everybody has misspelled words.

Bush"s problem is that he cannot speak properly.
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by iceman_1960 March 17, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
"5 Years On: Is Iraq War Only Half-Over?"
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Not if a Democrat wins in November.

And that is going to happen.
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by mcvet March 17, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
You CAN''''T be this stupid? You answer NOTHING that I raise and YOU accuse me of using "Move-ON" talking points. What kind of person are you? Have you people NO honor left at all? I raised REAL issues... those LIES that we were told for TWO long years are as REAL as they get... do you freaks address them? NO! The fact that the people who ordered and planned the Attack against this nation are in a Safe Haven Completely REBUILT is a REAL Fact! Do you people address that issue? NO! The FACT that Iraq had NO connection to Bin Laden and our OWN Pentagon tells us that but what do you freaks say? I''''m a "Lib"? YOU ARE SICK... every last one of you are SICK!! Sieg Heil Bush


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Posted by skyk at 04:24 PM : Mar 17, 2008
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Appreciate the help there bro but please do not speak for me. I know you raised the same questions and are mad but you cause me problems when you do that. Sieg Heil Bush.
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by skyk-2009 March 17, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
As far as im concerned JWind and MCvet are in the same league just different sides of the fence.


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Posted by fedupwithit1 at 04:21 PM : Mar 17, 2008
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Well you can add ONE more to the mix there friend! I''m a Vietnam Vet too and I''m tired of this trash! YES you are all fascist and you refuse to address the issues raise by Sarge and Myself. You simply want to brush off all those lies told and the mess we''ve been pulled into by these liars. Just brush them off!! Those Kids who are dying because of those lies are REAL and I to am d-a-m-n-e-d tired of you people just acting like they don''t matter and the money we''re spending on this useless war is NOT needed here at home. ENOUGH I say so here ya go Sarge!! Sieg Heil Bush!!
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by skyk-2009 March 17, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
McVet, do poli sci proffessors run overseas wars and campaigns? Do they talk to the Iraqi people and know what they want? You have a difficult time answering legitiamte questions if the answers aren''''''''t pre scripted for you from Move.on. Why do you call everyone that disagrees with your views a Nazi? Is that how true Americans discuss differences of opinions?

Posted by notblue at 12:48 PM : Mar 17, 2008

You CAN''T be this stupid? You answer NOTHING that I raise and YOU accuse me of using "Move-ON" talking points. What kind of person are you? Have you people NO honor left at all? I raised REAL issues... those LIES that we were told for TWO long years are as REAL as they get... do you freaks address them? NO! The fact that the people who ordered and planned the Attack against this nation are in a Safe Haven Completely REBUILT is a REAL Fact! Do you people address that issue? NO! The FACT that Iraq had NO connection to Bin Laden and our OWN Pentagon tells us that but what do you freaks say? I''m a "Lib"? YOU ARE SICK... every last one of you are SICK!! Sieg Heil Bush
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by leftyintexas March 17, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
No, we still have 95 years to go so you bushies hang on. Hear? We rootin for ya. But on the home front.......only 309 days left! Enjoy!
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by bobmarisol March 17, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
Since the USA liberated Iraq, 25 million people have been saved from an evil dictator and thousands of Al Queda terrorists have been killed or captured. Yes things have gone poorly in some ways, but Americans do not run from a battle just because things get hard. Our nation has always fought through the hard, and that is what makes us great. We defeat evil and oppression no matter what the cost. We will defeat Al Queda, no matter how many Democrats plea for surrender.

In the last 12 months, the war has turned around. Violence has dropped at least 60%, tribal leaders that once fought alongside Al Queda now fight alongside the USA against Al Queda, and thousands of Iraqis now have electricity and running water. With all this good news, why does the title of this article only mention the death count and the monetary cost of the war? The only logical explanation is that CBS and the rest of the liberal media have teamed up with the Democratic Party in its attempt to secure defeat and to undermine the war effort.
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by william19491 March 17, 2008 3:59 PM EDT
jwind11**You know, I''ve noticed that to about McVet ?
He''s probably some little college kid the Dem''s pay to sit on this site all day and talk nonsense--Thats why i always put a ? after vet--hmmmm

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by jwind11 March 17, 2008 3:51 PM EDT
McVet, do poli sci proffessors run overseas wars and campaigns? Do they talk to the Iraqi people and know what they want? You have a difficult time answering legitiamte questions if the answers aren''''t pre scripted for you from Move.on. Why do you call everyone that disagrees with your views a Nazi? Is that how true Americans discuss differences of opinions?

Posted by notblue at 12:48 PM : Mar 17, 2008

mcvet is not here, he leaves when someone brings up his ptsd...thats how much a wuss he is
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by notblue March 17, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
McVet, do poli sci proffessors run overseas wars and campaigns? Do they talk to the Iraqi people and know what they want? You have a difficult time answering legitiamte questions if the answers aren''t pre scripted for you from Move.on. Why do you call everyone that disagrees with your views a Nazi? Is that how true Americans discuss differences of opinions?
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