February 11, 2009 3:19 PM

Will Florida, Mich. Delegates Be Seated?

By
David Morgan
(CBS)  With the race between Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama close and unlikely to gain either of them a clear majority of delegates before the Democratic Party's convention this summer, the determining factors may be the fate of delegates from the Florida and Michigan primaries - delegates which have been excluded, so far.

Now representatives from each state are in talks with party leaders to come to a solution, in the hopes of avoiding a meltdown and a fractured party going into (and coming out of) Denver.

Gov. Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said he thought it was "very unlikely" that Florida and Michigan delegations would be seated at the national convention without some concessions.

"I think it's very unlikely that Florida and Michigan, given how close this race is, are going to be seated as-is," he told Face The Nation host Bob Schieffer. "But everybody's going to work very hard to find a compromise within the rules that's fair to both campaigns that will allow Florida and Michigan in the end to be seated."

Dean stressed that, in light of talk of a "do-over" of the vote in those two states, the party will not foot the bill should it come to states holding a new primary election.

"The Democratic National Committee is not going to pay for it because, right now, our job is to tell the American people about Senator McCain's record on Iraq and the deficits and so forth, and convince the American people that our nominee is better than Senator McCain. And that's what we're going to be using our resources for."

Dean hoped that the issue could be resolved sooner rather than later, as the dispute has the potential of being damaging to the ultimate victor. "We don't think knock-down, drag-out fights are ever good between Democrats," he said. "We'd much prefer to have this all settled well before we get to the convention, if that can happen."

Also on the program, Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., talked about the importance of coming to a resolution to the delegate dispute in Flordia and Michigan, without resorting to a re-writing of the rules.

Nelson, a supporter of Hillary Clinton, said if the DNC will not seat Florida's delegates from the January 29 primary, "then the only thing I know to do is to do it over." He suggested a new election (possibly a mail-in vote) would cost $6 million, which the Florida Democratic Party would have to raise themselves.

Kerry, who has been campaigning for Obama, said the Illinois Senator would accept whatever deal is reached between the states and the party: "Let's go forward. Let's get this done in a way that allows Michigan and Florida to be at the convention, brings the party together, unites it - which is what his candidacy is about - and resolve this issue fairly."

Later in the program, Democratic strategist and CBS News consultant Joe Trippi and Republican strategist Howard Rollins talked about the debate over delegate sin Florida and Michigan and its potential to unite or shatter the party.

"I think you have to be very careful when you alienate voters, particularly in your base," Rollins said.

"You know, my sense is that the Republican side was like a NASCAR race in which the front-runners kind of get knocked back and forth, and, obviously, John McCain survived. The Democrat race is kind of like a Muhammad Ali-Joe Frazer fight - they're pounding each other, round by round. And it's pretty fascinating to watch.

"At the end of the day, I expect the party to be unified again, and John McCain to be a very strong candidate. And it will be a very close election."

Trippi was more cautious about the dangers a protracted primary battle would pose for the ultimate nominee, saying that when you have a big fight, the other team wins: "In 1980, when Senator Kennedy went after President Jimmy Carter, we went into that convention, the Democratic side, with a fight on our hands. And Reagan won [the general election].

"Democrats cannot go into this convention fighting. I think we've got to have this settled."



Read the full "Face the Nation" transcript here.

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  • David Morgan

    David Morgan is a senior editor at CBSNews.com and cbssundaymorning.com.

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by fettkonserv March 11, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
Why bother? They''re Republicons who needs them.
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by byeneocons March 11, 2008 1:11 PM EDT
Where the he// is Jeb Bush when you need another Florida election fixed?
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by iamthequeen- March 11, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
If everyone says we should play by the rules with FL and MI then the same should be true with the superdelegates. Why do they have to vote with their constituents when the party gave them a vote of their own. Obama can''t have it both ways but nice try.
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by katg21 March 11, 2008 12:14 PM EDT
Wow, such a long post and you said absolutely nothing.
Posted by singingrick

Nothing you or any other dem is willing to hear b/c of your stupidity. You don''t even realize that your party leaders think you''re stupid. They know that you will NEVER question anything they do; you''ll just blindly vote for them.
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by darrren12000 March 11, 2008 11:26 AM EDT
um, why the stupid arguments about giving half the delegates to each candidate? that''s real smart. same result as giving each candidate zero delegates. what would that accomplish?
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by darrren12000 March 11, 2008 11:24 AM EDT
qa -- you could have saved a lot of space in your post if you just said "go-bama"
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by darrren12000 March 11, 2008 11:23 AM EDT
only the dems could make a 15 million dollar decision that is unfair to almost 3 million voters.
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by mdk2dude March 11, 2008 6:53 AM EDT
To allow the Michigan and Florida represenatives to be counted at the convention they should give half the votes to Obama and half to Clinton. That was the delegation is seated and no one has an advantage.
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by jaycal33 March 11, 2008 5:26 AM EDT
Obama is CORRUPT, his slogan of change an ILLUSION.

1) A houseowner wants to sell both a house and adjoining land. Obama can afford to buy only the house. No problem, the criminal Rezko to the rescue. Rezko pays full price for the land, whereas Obama gets a discount of $300,000 on the house. Nice to have criminal friends like this!!! (reference ABC News)

2) Exelon Corporation had not disclosed radioactive leaks at one of its nuclear plants in Illinois. Obama, a senator for Illinois introduces a bill to make disclosures mandatory. Seems like Exelon doesn''t like it. Each draft of the new bill by Obama goes more and more towards Exelon till disclosures end up being "voluntary". What gives? How about $250,000+ donations by Exelon to Obama''s campaigns!!! Obama is not change, he is WASHINGTON BUSINESS AS USUAL. (reference New York Times)

People need to stop believing their fantasies about Obama and realize that Hillary is the one who has been fighting for them all along. All the way back to 1993 when she tried to introduce universal health care (before it became politically fashionable).
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by machiavelliw March 11, 2008 4:56 AM EDT
The overarching point of this article is that the Dems will lose in November. All this infighting over Clinton v. Obama will leave the party at a major a disadvantage in the general election because the eventual nominee will have only about two months to assuage the bruised feelings of their opponent''s supporters, while simultaneously trying to do battle with John McCain and the Republicans. So let''s just all get used to the idea of President McCain shall we?
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