March 9, 2008
McCain Looks Ahead
60 Minutes' Scott Pelley Interviews The Presumptive GOP Presidential Candidate
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Play CBS Video Video John McCain Now that he has become the presumptive Republican presidential candidate, John McCain talks to Scott Pelley about his plans to win the White House.
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Timeline McCain's Quest Mileposts in the Arizona senator's race for the GOP nomination and the presidency.
"I don't remember the incident. It may have happened without them telling me. But it certainly wouldn't surprise me," McCain said.
"You never talked to anybody about giving it up?" Pelley asked.
"No. No," McCain replied.
McCain centered his campaign on what was among the most divisive issues in America: the surge in Iraq.
When 60 Minutes traveled with him to Iraq last April, two thirds of the American people were against the surge.
"I believe that we can succeed and I believe the consequences of failure are catastrophic. Those who say just withdraw, then you say, 'What next?'" McCain asked in the 2007 interview.
"I wonder at what point do you stop doing what you think is right and you start doing what the majority of the American people want?" Pelley asked.
"Well, again, I disagree with what the majority of the American people want. Failure will lead to chaos, withdrawal will lead to chaos," McCain said at the time.
"That was not what the American people wanted to hear at that time," Pelley pointed out.
"That's exactly right. It's not what they wanted to hear. I can read the polls very well," McCain said.
"But you said it anyway," Pelley said.
"Well, I said, at the time I'd much rather lose a campaign than lose a war. Now, more and more Americans are believing that the surge is succeeding. I'm very glad of that," McCain replied.
Surge success helped win New Hampshire. Later, the conservative vote split between Romney and Huckabee. McCain won enough conservatives, moderates and independents to seize the momentum. It was a narrow escape for McCain, but then that's the story of his life.
As a naval aviator during Vietnam he walked away from an accident that killed 134 others. He was shot down on his 23rd combat mission. The enemy offered to let him go because he was the son of an admiral but McCain demanded other Americans be released first, so he remained as a prisoner of war five and a half years. Because of torture, today, he can lift his arm only so high.
Pelley asked him about American interrogation methods today. Asked if water boarding is torture, McCain said, "Sure. Yes. Without a doubt."
"So the United States has been torturing POWs?" Pelley asked.
"Yes. Scott, we prosecuted Japanese war criminals after World War II.
And one of the charges brought against them, for which they were convicted, was that they water-boarded Americans," McCain said.
"How did we lose our way?" Pelley asked.
"I don't know the answer to that. I think one of the failures maybe was not to listen more to our military leadership, including people like General Colin Powell, on this issue," McCain said.
"In your town hall meetings you're fond of saying that you will follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell," Pelley remarked. "With respect, following him to the gates of hell is easy. What's hard is putting several divisions of U.S. forces on the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan. What are you willing to do?"
"Well, the first thing is not tell Osama bin Laden what I'm gonna do. But I'll get him," McCain vowed.
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- If I didn''''t know the consensus of white America, I learned it last night, when an elderly white female, in my African History class, politely, in a firm but soft spoken voice reminded me, she said this country will never see a black president, and it mattered little of his/her qualifications, because the largest voter constituency, which happens to be those 45-above will never vote a black into office.
She went on to say Obama''''s winning in the primaries says nothing, when the actual vote to elect a president comes into play, of which a majority of whites will "NEVER" cast that vote for him.
Obama has a strong following among 18-35 year whites, but his support sharply declines among the 45 plus generation, they''''re the one''''s which make up the majority of the vote, accordingly.
A fellow student, a white male, second that emotion, or sentiment, as he stated this is the consensus of white Americans, and although it appears Obama has the Democratic lead, McCain is a "shoe-win".
So, if this is any indication of the "collective consciousnesses" of white America, Obama, according to Bill Clinton, is living in a "fairytale", because white Americans will "never" elect him.
Maybe that''''s why Hilary has fought a relentless campaign against him, because she''''s only echoing the sentiments of white America. - Reply to this comment
- Mr. McCain''s chances are directly proportional to the demos'' odds of *** up their own possibilities. At least Mr. Spitzer is NOT a serial rapist. Frankly, I believe Juanita Broderick and the Arkansas beauty queen who spoke of her ordeal in the back of that limo, not to mention Kathleen Willey. Why doesn''t the media describe the various types of women and familial enablers who find it in their own interests to let these guys keep offending. Anybody remember Harry Reasoner''s 60M segment about the high school girl killed by the new hire janitor who confessed to his lady-friend: "Today I killed a girl at achool!"(?) But she didn''t reveal the confession until yrs later when "enabling" was not part of her gig. Spitzer is a far cry from the kinds of offenses we all know so much about. So that''s why we can''t count McCain out, just yet.
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- Looking ahead for Alzheimer''s Treatment.
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- McCain Looks Ahead, Yes, through Christ coming into your life a relationship is established between you and God! This way McCain can look ahead!
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- McCain Looks Ahead? Would self be conquered?
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- McCain Looks Ahead
If He is elected President I hope he really asks God for direction in His life for the lives of Americans? This would be looking ahead! God can do this personally for him or anyone in fact if they acknowledge their self to God. And then ask Jesus into their lives to have victory over self. - Reply to this comment
- I cannot decide which is more appalling: Is it Senator McCain%u2019s hypocrisy at claiming that water-boarding is torture after his vote on February 13 to continue to allow so-called %u201Cenhanced interrogation techniques%u201D (a euphemism for torture) to be used by the CIA? Or is it Scott Pelley%u2019s lack of journalistic integrity or his lack of knowledge that allowed for a discussion of this issue without even a mention of McCain%u2019s February 13 vote? Torture is immoral and leads to false statements and confessions. Its use damages our credibility around the world, puts our servicemen and women in jeopardy, and is in direct contrast to the values and ideals of our democracy.
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- THIS is journalism? I think not. Mr. Pelley comes accross as an Apparatchik of Senator McCain. Mr. Pelley doesn''t trouble himself to ask St. McCain why he voted against a bill that would have made torture illegal last month. Then, McCain asserts that America is a "right of center nation," and Pelley doesn''t trouble himself to question that, either. Never mind that a Pew Poll in February showed Americans trust Democrats more than Republicans in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY except one. How much does McCain pay you for that, Mr. Pelley?
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- user168,,,, Maybe you should think about changing your screen name to abuser168 or start listing to the obvious falseness in McCain''s speeches.... Then think about the GOP''s false Contract For America
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- "The Clintons will steal the Nomination away from Obamma thru secret Delegates ..." Posted by hillaryin08
They are not ''secret delegates'', their names are known, many are party activists or elected officials. The Clinton''s didn''t sneak them in the back door, they have had so called ''super delegates'' since the 1960''s! The purpose was to have some elected delegates pledged to vote as their states voted, and about 20 percent who are allowed to vote their conscience. The republican party has something similar, except they call them ''unpledged delegates'' instead of ''super delegates''. It is Obama trying to change the rules, saying Super Delegates should be obligated to vote for whoever has the most votes or elected delegates, when party rules clearly state that is not the case! Besides, if Obama has his way, would Senator Kennedy, who endorsed Obama, be forced to vote for Hillary at the convention, since she won the Massachusetts Primary? - Reply to this comment
- Hillary thinks if your hopes are not for her to win, then they are "false hopes". She is telling the people Obama''s hope to unite the country is "false hope".
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- hillaryin08,,,, This article is about McCain''s Magic Mushroom Visions --
--- Baghdad''s far from secure, Iraq''s far from saying there is any degree of real progress, our national security is damaged severly, no real progress has been made in this War on Terror, & & our economy is far from what McCain says. - Reply to this comment
- hillaryin08,,,, I''m waiting to see how it plays out, but I don''t see it hurting a democrat landslide in November. --- Try not spinning it into something it''s not
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- hillaryin08,,,, Oh, your talking about Michigan & Florida.... I''ll agree that''s become a clustref_ck.
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- The Democrat Party Bosses are now saying now that the elected delegates dont count, and the Super Delagates do. God I''m glad that im not in that party.
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- hillaryin08,,,, What part of it is stealing ??
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- Your folks with your constant war against American Liberals --- McCain is & always has been a Conservative Liberal
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Posted by j-whitman at 02:33 PM : Mar 10, 2008
So what does this have to do with a fellow Democrat stealing and election away from another? And you with the rest of the libs giving them a pass on it? - Reply to this comment
- hillaryin08,,,, Hypocracy ??? No, this is hyprocracy :
Your folks with your constant war against American Liberals --- McCain is & always has been a Conservative Liberal - Reply to this comment
- Obamma is leading in Elected Pledged Delegates
Obamma is leading in the Popular Vote
Obamma has won the most States
The Clintons will steal the Nomination away from Obamma thru secret Delegates and the Libs will give them a pass and not show an inch of outrage over it. - Reply to this comment
- hillaryin08,,,, I believe here on this planet we call it the election process not stealing,, You know, something totally alien to the GOP, democracy
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Posted by j-whitman at 02:27 PM : Mar 10, 2008
No, but you and the rest of the Libs will not show an inch of outrage when the Clintons steal the election from Obamma. Its called Hypocracy. - Reply to this comment

