March 5, 2008

Clinton Hints At Joint Ticket With Obama

Democratic Race Goes On After Big Wins For Clinton In Texas And Ohio

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    With her confidence restored and campaign back on track, Hillary Clinton alluded to an alliance with Barack Obama -- something he says is out of the question. Jim Axelrod reports.

  • Video Big Wins Boost Hillary

    Sen. Hillary Clinton won the crucial Texas and Ohio primaries and reinvigorated her presidential campaign. Harry Smith speaks with the Democratic candidate.

  • Video Hillary Basks In Ohio Win

    "CBS News RAW": After winning the decisive Ohio primary, a beaming Hillary Clinton told supporters her campaign was back on track and she is ready to face John McCain in the race to the White House.

    • Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. acknowledges supporters during a primary night rally Tuesday March 4, 2008, in Columbus, Ohio. Photo

      Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. acknowledges supporters during a primary night rally Tuesday March 4, 2008, in Columbus, Ohio.  (AP Photo/Mark Duncan)

    • Democratic presidential hopefuls Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., Tuesday, March 4, 2008. Photo

      Democratic presidential hopefuls Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., Tuesday, March 4, 2008.  (AP)

    • Republican presidential hopeful, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., reacts to the crowd at his primary watch party in Dallas, Tuesday, March 4, 2008. McCain surpassed the requisite 1,191 GOP delegates to clinch the Republican presidential nomination. Photo

      Republican presidential hopeful, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., reacts to the crowd at his primary watch party in Dallas, Tuesday, March 4, 2008. McCain surpassed the requisite 1,191 GOP delegates to clinch the Republican presidential nomination.  (AP)

    • Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., speaks during a primary night victory rally in San Antonio, Tuesday, March 4, 2008. Photo

      Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., speaks during a primary night victory rally in San Antonio, Tuesday, March 4, 2008.  (AP)

    • Republican presidential hopeful, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, right, drops out of the Republican presidential race at a primary watch party, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, in Irving, Texas, after John McCain clinched the nomination. Photo

      Republican presidential hopeful, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, right, drops out of the Republican presidential race at a primary watch party, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, in Irving, Texas, after John McCain clinched the nomination. "We kept the faith," he told his end-of-the-road rally. At left, Huckabee's wife Janet applauds her husband.  (AP)

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    Notable events in the race for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.

(CBS/AP)  Obama, who had hoped to knock Clinton out of the race on Tuesday, said he would prevail despite facing a tenacious candidate who "just keeps on ticking." Clinton acknowledged the race was close and said it would come down to her credentials on national security and the economy.

The two presidential contenders made the rounds of the morning network television news shows Wednesday, declaring only one thing certain - that the campaign would go on and that the next big showdown would occur April 22 in Pennsylvania.

McCain, whose grasp on the nomination once seemed a distant reach, was headed for the White House Wednesday to have lunch with President Bush and get his endorsement. Bitter rivals in the 2000 presidential primaries, the two have forged an uneasy relationship during Bush's administration and have clashed on issues such as campaign finance, tax cuts, global warming and defining torture.

Despite Clinton's victories Tuesday night, Obama came away with a large share of delegates, too, in counting that continued Wednesday.

"We still have an insurmountable lead," Obama said.

Clinton and Obama spent most of the past two weeks in Ohio and Texas in a bruising campaign, with the former first lady questioning his sincerity in opposing the North American Free Trade Agreement and darkly hinting he's not ready to be commander in chief in a crisis.

Based on their current delegate counts, neither candidate can win enough delegates in the remaining primaries and caucuses to secure the nomination without the help of nearly 800 party officials and top elected officials who also have a voice in the selection. On Wednesday, Clinton and her campaign clearly aimed their case at those so-called "superdelegates" - a strategy that could take the nomination fight all the way to the party's August national convention in Denver.

"New questions are being raised, new challenges are being put to my opponent," she said. "Superdelegates are supposed to take all that information on board and they are supposed to be exercising the judgment that people would have exercised if this information and challenges had been available several months ago."

She said voters are being drawn to her argument that she would be the better commander in chief, the best steward of the economy and that she can better confront McCain in the general election.

Obama countered that on a key national security issue - the war in Iraq - "she got it wrong" by supporting Mr. Bush's call for authority to use of force.

As for superdelegates, Obama said he expected them to rally around him.

"I don't think it will necessarily go to the convention floor," he told reporters aboard his plane before taking off from San Antonio for Chicago.

He also said he will challenge Clinton on her foreign policy credentials.

"Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no," he said. "She made a series of arguments on why she should be a superior candidate. I think it's important to examine that argument."

The CBS News count does not include delegates from Florida and Michigan, who were penalized by the Democratic Party for moving up their primaries ahead of a schedule set by the Democratic National Committee. None of the Democratic candidates campaigned in either state. But Clinton, who won the popular vote in both state primaries, on Wednesday renewed her call for Florida and Michigan to be counted in the nomination race.

"It's a mistake for the Democratic Party to punish these two states," she said. "I don't see how a Democratic nominee goes forward alienating two of the most important states."

McCain surpassed the 1,191 delegates needed to win his party's nomination against odds that seemed steep only a few months ago, and all but impossible last summer.

Facing a couple of well-financed marquee candidates in a crowded field, the Arizona senator opened his comeback in New Hampshire's leadoff primary, rolled over Rudy Giuliani in Florida and finished off Mitt Romney after Super Tuesday on Feb. 5.

Mike Huckabee hung in until Tuesday night, gamely keeping up the fight weeks after dropping from long shot to afterthought. (read an analysis of Huckabee's rise and fall by CBS News' Joy Lin, who was an embedded reporter on the Huckabee campaign)

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by xzonz March 4, 2008 4:41 AM PST
Either way she is done. if not now then she will be humiliated by the republicans-she wont go past them so our nominee is Barack Obama

All he has to do after Clinton is out of his way is to have a MAJOR news conference and explain everything honestly and he will win because Maccain will have nothing to go aganist him. i believe it was Clintons tactic to make him stumble but it has not worked, just as she tried to engage him into her cheap negative debates. Obama is smart and he will be our next President
OBAMA 08!!!
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by samthetvcat March 4, 2008 4:51 AM PST
"Obama campaign manager David Pollute called Tuesday . . . "

Is that what the press does for fun - give ''pet names'' to the candidates'' campaign aides? I''ll bet Hillary''s is Mark Pinn-head, or something like that.

Whoops - not a good idea to ever put that kind of stuff in drafts though, especially stuff that doesn''t show up in spell-check . . .
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by samthetvcat March 4, 2008 5:24 AM PST
The Suffolk University poll publishes the actual poll questions they ask voters, and in Ohio where they show Hillary with over a 10% lead over Barack, they also asked:

---"Regardless of who you personally support, who do you believe will be the next President of the United States - Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, or John
McCain?"---

For that question Barack leads Hillary by 9%. Now why on earth would people vote for somebody they don''t think is likely to win? Is it just an underdog thing? A sympathy vote? Do they want to let Barack know that they''ll vote for him in November, but they didn''t leave them feeling too reassured that they''re going to see improvements in Ohio and they''re still worried?

I think it''s the latter . . . I''d be interested to hear whether people in Ohio who vote for her really want to see this fight continue all for the next 3 months, and whether they really want Hillary to try and convince Superdelegates to go against the public vote, etc. Florida and Michigan are bound to be a lot closer in a revote with John Edwards out of the contest and with Barack''s name actually on the ballot.

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by smartprimate March 4, 2008 5:31 AM PST
It ain''t over until the fat lady sings... in Puerto Rico! Hill will win at least Ohio and Rhode Island, she may win the popular vote in Texas but lose in deligates. That will give her enough of an incentive to stay until the end.

Break out the popcorn, this is going an election to remember - and it''s not even the GE yet! This may make the 2000 election pale in comparison in terms of the twists and turns.
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by user168-2009 March 4, 2008 5:43 AM PST
Here''s what George Will wrote:

"The president who came to office with the most glittering array of experiences had served 10 years in the House of Representatives, then became minister to Russia, then served 10 years in the Senate, then four years as secretary of state (during a war that enlarged the nation by 33 percent), then was minister to Britain. Then, in 1856, James Buchanan was elected president and in just one term secured a strong claim to being ranked as America''s worst president. Abraham Lincoln, the inexperienced former one-term congressman, had an easy act to follow."

And here''s how Hillary handles her campaign, and probably everything else - with a lack of vision, strategy, and judgment:

__"Nearly $100,000 went for party platters and groceries before the Iowa caucuses... Rooms at the Bellagio luxury hotel in Las Vegas consumed more than $25,000... And top consultants collected about $5 million in January, a month of crucial expenses and tough fund-raising. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton"s latest campaign finance report, published Wednesday night, appeared even to her most stalwart supporters and donors to be a road map of her political and management failings. Several of them, echoing political analysts, expressed concerns that Mrs. Clinton"s spending priorities amounted to costly errors in judgment that have hamstrung her competitiveness against Senator Barack Obama of Illinois."

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by user168-2009 March 4, 2008 5:49 AM PST
Now meet Maggie Williams, Hillary Clinton''s new campaign manager:

%u201CFor an idealist like Maggie Williams, maybe the first lady was the embodiment of the mission, the only means at hand through which the ends she believed in could be achieved. But one thing led to another. And allegations that she removed Vince Foster''s files were followed by allegations that she sold access to Johnny Chung%u2026%u201D

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1968418/posts

http://finepolitics.blogspot.com/2008/02/who-is-maggie-williams.html


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by user168-2009 March 4, 2008 5:53 AM PST
"... As the first woman with a serious chance to lead the nation, it''s a way for her to demonstrate how she fought to improve the lives of families and children...

But there is a little-known episode Clinton doesn''t mention in her standard campaign speech in which those two principles collided. In 1975, a 27-year-old Hillary Rodham, acting as a court-appointed attorney, attacked the credibility of a 12-year-old girl in mounting an aggressive defense for an indigent client accused of rape in Arkansas - using her child development background to help the defendant.

But the record shows that Rodham was also intent on questioning the girl''s credibility. That line of defense crystallized in a July 28, 1975, affidavit requesting the girl undergo a psychiatric examination at the university''s clinic.

I have been informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing," wrote Rodham, without referring to the source of that allegation. "I have also been informed that she has in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body."

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-usark245589997feb24,0,2670956.story?page=4



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by crater7 March 4, 2008 6:42 AM PST
THE OBAMA CAMP SUPPORTERS (ATTACK DOGS) ARE MAKING THEIR CAMPAIGN SPEACHES THIS MORNING. A LAST DITCH EFFORT TO BLAST THAT EVIL, WICKED *** HILLARY. AND SUPPORT THEIR HONEST, HONORABLE, WISE, INNOCENT, AND DREAM GUY CANDIDATE.

THE ONE THAT LIED ABOUT NAFTA GATE.
THE ONE THAT IS ASSOACIATED WITH REZCO.
THE ONE THAT ACCEPTED 1.2 MILLION FROM SPECIAL INTEREST POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEES FOR HIS U S SENATE CAMPAIGN, AND THAT HELP ELECT HIM.
THE ONE THAT RECIEVED $270,000 FROM EMPLOYEES AND OFFICIALS OF EXELON, FOR HIS PRESIDENTIAL AND SENATE CAMPAIGNS.
THE ONE THAT HAS NOT HELD ONE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTIEE MEETING ON AFGHANISTAN. WHILE OUR TROOPS ARE DYING IN THE REAL WAR ON TERROR IN AFGHANISTAN.
THE ONE THAT, IS ASSOCIATED WITH A CHURCH, SELF PROCLAIMED "UNASHAMEDLY BLACK" WITH AN EMPHISIS ON AFRICAN CULTURS, AND HAS BEEN CALLED SEPRATIST, RACIST AND ANTI ISRAEL. THE PASTOR HAS SAID, "RACISM IS HOW THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED AND HOW THIS COUNTRY IS STILL RUN."
THE ONE THAT HAS USE SEXIST REMARKS AGAINST CLINTON, WHO HAS FOUGHT FOR YEARS AGINIST SEXIST, AND DISCRIMATION AGAINST WOMEN. AND HAS ALSO FOUGHT FOR EQUAL RIGHTS FOR WOMEN FOR YEARS. SHE HAS FOUGHT FOR HEALTH INSURANCE FOR CHILDREN, FOR YEARS.

BUT HEY! OBAMA SAID HE IS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ. BUT OF COURSE WAS NOT IN THE SENATE WHEN THE FAMOUS "VOTE" ON THE WAR, TOOK PLACE. ANYBODY CAN CLAIM THEY ARE AGIANST SOMETHING IF THEY DON''T HAVE TO GO ON RECORD AND VOTE FOR IT.



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by rplat March 4, 2008 6:56 AM PST
Good lord those two are frightening. They epitomize the rapid decline of this once great nation.
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by user168-2009 March 4, 2008 6:58 AM PST
~ A good leader inspires people to have confidence in the leader; a great leader inspires people to have confidence in themselves. ~

So says Obama: "It''s only when you hitch yourself up to something bigger than yourself that you realize your true potential."

~ A leader takes people where they want to go. A great leader takes people where they don''t necessarily want to go, but ought to be. ~

So says Obama: "There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America."

~ If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader. ~

So says Obama: "Our individual salvation depends on collective salvation."

~ One man with courage makes a majority. ~

So says Obama: "What''s hard, what''s risky, what''s truly audacious, is to hope."

~ I must follow the people. Am I not their leader? ~

So says Obama: "If you feel good about me, there''s a whole lot of young men out there who could be me if given the chance."

~ Take a leap of faith with me. ~ Obama

Ironically, Bill Clinton may have said it best four years ago, comparing John Kerry to George W. Bush: %u201CIf one candidate%u2019s trying to scare you, and the other one is trying to get you to think; if one candidate is appealing to your fears, and the other one%u2019s appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think, and hope.%u201D

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by bywill March 4, 2008 7:10 AM PST
Amen brother to that!
Obama 08, can''t wait!
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by Abrahamowour March 4, 2008 7:12 AM PST
Every human being has got a reason and a purpose of why God created him/she.so if obamas purpose is to become Americans next general then so be it cuz no matter what you try to do to change Gods will,you cant.so obama keep the fire burning cuz no one can stop it from spreading all over ohio and texas.BRAVO!
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by bywill March 4, 2008 7:21 AM PST
We the people, of the United States of America are member of the Cult for Change. All aboardddddddd!!!!!!
OBAMA08!!!!
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by formrusmcsgt March 4, 2008 7:22 AM PST
"...noting that "enormous leads" she enjoyed as recently as two weeks ago had dwindled or evaporated."

Hillary has lost 11 straight primaries, has seen her one-time lead in today''s states evaporate, and yet claims that momentum is on her side.

Delusional.
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by pensacola88 March 4, 2008 7:28 AM PST
Voters in Texas, Ohio, Vermont, and Rhode Island should remember that lobbyists and polical action committees have invested heavily in Hillary Clinton and expect a return on their investment. If she wins, they will get it at the expense of the livelihoods of the voters.

Barak Obama doe not have any political favors to return to any special interest groups. If you want hope for a counry whose president puts voters first, Barack Obama is your man.

Health Care is one of the most profitable industries in this nation. Even if universal health care became a reality, the opportunity is wide open for it to be legislated corruptly when the chief advocate - Hillary Clinton was accepted PAC and Special Interest money from this powerhouse.

Republicans want Hillary Clinton, Democrats want Barack Obama. There is more dirt on Hillary for the Republicans to use on the campaign in November.
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by jesterbelle March 4, 2008 7:32 AM PST
It ain''''t over until the fat lady sings... in Puerto Rico! Hill will win at least Ohio and Rhode Island, she may win the popular vote in Texas but lose in deligates. That will give her enough of an incentive to stay until the end.

Break out the popcorn, this is going an election to remember - and it''''s not even the GE yet! This may make the 2000 election pale in comparison in terms of the twists and turns.


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Posted by smartprimate at 05:31 AM : Mar 04, 2008

Yes,and when the dmes. lose in november,and need a scapegoat to blame it on,like Nader in 2000,pick Hillary.She''ll be the "best candidate".

From:An independent voter.


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by craigh9 March 4, 2008 7:37 AM PST
YEAH - its the last 24 hours of Hillarys run for president - YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by formrusmcsgt March 4, 2008 7:40 AM PST
YEAH - its the last 24 hours of Hillarys run for president - YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by craigh9 at 07:37 AM : Mar 04, 2008

I would like to think so as well, but highly doubt it.

Even if Obama sweeps today, the Clinton machine will argue that she won the biggest states and deserves to be the nominee.

I think she''s determined to be the nominee by hook or by crook....
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by craigh9 March 4, 2008 7:44 AM PST
It''s 3:00 AM, your children are asleep - but somewhere a phone rings - and Hillary Clinton answers. It''s wednesday morning and its Howard Dean stating that since she lost Vermont, Rhode Island, Texas, and basically tied in Ohio it is time for her to drop out of the race, to do the right thing so the party can rally around a single candidate and focus on beating the Republicians in November. You hope you have the right person to make the right decision on the line, after all its suppose to be about what''s good for the country - but it''s Hillary - "No way Howard, I will be the next Democratic President - even if I have to drag the party down for years to come to make it so - it''s my god given right to be President and I will, if not in 2008, then 2012, or 2016, or maybe 2020........................"

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by craigh9 March 4, 2008 7:48 AM PST
"GET ANOTHER LAWYER WORKING TO GET THE FLORIDA VOTE TO COUNT FOR DELEGATES. I KNOW I AGREED TO NOT HAVING THEM COUNT BUT THATS WAS BEFORE I KNEW THEY WOULD VOTE FOR ME. I''N HILARY CLINTON AND I HAVE A GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO BE PRESIDENT AND I''M NOT GOING TO LET A LITTLE THING LIKE MY WORD STAND IN THE WAY OF THAT."
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by formrusmcsgt March 4, 2008 7:48 AM PST
Posted by craigh9 at 07:44 AM : Mar 04, 2008

Good post.

What I find most amazing about these primaries is that we''ve suffered through 7 years of a president who is completely full of himself and cares not what his constitutents want and still so many are supporting a woman who is as obviously full of herself as Dubya is.

Hillary has no humility whatsoever.
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by richnj1 March 4, 2008 7:59 AM PST
Barak Obama doe not have any political favors to return to any special interest groups. If you want hope for a counry whose president puts voters first, Barack Obama is your man.
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Posted by Pensacola88 at 07:28 AM : Mar 04, 2008


Don''t be naive. No politician of either party truly gives a bleep about putting the voters first. And Obama is a product of Chicago politics. Nobody gets through the rough-and-tumble of Chicago politics without having gotten at least a little bit dirty. The Rezko thing is one example.
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by radiob-2009 March 4, 2008 8:13 AM PST
Tony Rezko was a friend and supporter of mine for many years. These charges are completely unrelated to me, and nobody disputes that,"


What is clear is a poor judgement of character in regards to Rezko at minimium. Add in the comments about NAFTA being nothing more than "a campaign slogan" and all of the PAC money that Obama has accepted along with his 130 present votes. His knowledge of the law yet total disregard for the rulings of the law in regards to torture and eavesdropping. What is left is another snake oil salesman.
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by realpatriot1 March 4, 2008 8:15 AM PST
Pensacola88/richnj1,

You''re both right. Obama couldn''t rise in politics in Chicago or elsewhere without cutting at least some ethical corners. It''s a matter of degree where some politicians do as much as they have to do to further themselves and their agenda while others go all in and grab every bit that they can.

The difference with Obama and the point pensacola is making is that he won''t be beholding to special interests for cash for his next campaign.

2 factors fuel the corruption in politics, the need for money to get elected the first time and the need for money to get re-elected.

Obama needed the influence peddlers like Rezco when he was starting out but now he''s on the brink of election with 95% or so of the money coming from small donors. That network plus the power of the Presidency would mean that he could govern without the blessing of fat cats while seeking re-election.

That''s what it will take for a President to push reform hard. Only an active push from the President will ever goad Congress into enacting real reform.

McCain is commited to reform to a point but will still need to answer to the special interests. Even if he has it in his mind that he=''s going to be a one termer he''ll have to play the game like he''s running again or he''ll be a lameduck at inauguration.
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by taotxzen March 4, 2008 8:15 AM PST
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Now there can be only one purpose in trying to control the tally of votes under circumstances in which a campaign knows it''s outnumbered, that it will lose an honest counting of the votes: to alter the true vote. To cheat. To steal. To suppress the votes of Texas caucus attendees and subvert the caucus process.

The phrase, "if our supporters are outnumbered," means, in simpler language, "If we lose the vote, take control of the vote tally and change the numbers."

Place this alongside the Clinton campaign threats to challenge the Texas caucuses and you get a full picture of what Clinton is up to: disrupt the caucuses at all costs. Steal votes, delay the reporting of honest vote totals, throw the process into chaos, do whatever it takes.
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by taotxzen March 4, 2008 8:16 AM PST
Clinton Caucus Disruption/Vote Suppression

by: Glenn Smith
Sat Mar 01, 2008 at 10:06 PM CST

The Dallas Morning News is reporting that Clinton campaign training materials regarding Tuesday night''s caucuses ominously advise supporters to take control of caucus sign-in sheets and vote tallies especially "if our supporters are outnumbered."

[Clinton caucus training material] goes on to say, "If our supporters are outnumbered, ask the Temporary Chair if one of our supporters can serves as the Secretary, in the interest of fairness.

"The control of the sign-in sheets and the announcement of the delegates allotted to each candidate are the critical functions of the Chair and Secretary. This is why it is so important that Hillary supporters hold these positions."

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by vet_sk March 4, 2008 8:19 AM PST
It is time to get everyone we know to the polls and vote Obama. That is clearly the only chance the United States has to get back up on step again. You think Hillary is going to lead the world, please. I know a few women who would be excellent leaders, but Hillary is not one of them. She would be just another corporate lawyer if it were not for Bill. I can''t believe all the women supporting her because she is a woman while she is there because of her husband.
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by jesterbelle March 4, 2008 8:19 AM PST
What I find most amazing about these primaries is that we''''ve suffered through 7 years of a president who is completely full of himself and cares not what his constitutents want and still so many are supporting a woman who is as obviously full of herself as Dubya is.

Hillary has no humility whatsoever.


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Posted by formrusmcsgt at 07:48 AM : Mar 04, 2008

What gets me is how alot of the people that push her on here act as if Obama supporters are religious fanatics under some kind of spell.They''ll parrot some baloney she''s pushed in a rally,and like the "moonies",no amount of reasoning can change their minds.They overlook the fact that there is no way she can win the delegate count,and hope for some kind of miracle to pull her out of the fire.They are very un-realistic,and if anyone fits the term fanatic,it is these people.The "Hillary Krishnas" have no room to talk.
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by expatfamily March 4, 2008 8:36 AM PST
Sen. Hillary Clinton will never get my family''s vote. As lifelong Democrats, we are sickened by Sen. Clinton''s scare tactics and her sleazy politics. Her praise of John McCain at the expense of Barack Obama has sealed the deal. Here she is in all her glory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw
Mark it down: three Democrats who will vote a straight Democrat party line, but abstain from supporting someone who will do anything to win, even destroy her fellow Democrats.
Hopefully, the country will never have to suffer through another Clinton "experience."

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by omega39-2009 March 4, 2008 8:38 AM PST
Republicans want Hillary Clinton, Democrats want Barack Obama. There is more dirt on Hillary for the Republicans to use on the campaign in November.

Posted by Pensacola88

There is a lot of truth in that statement. The Republicans have spent at least the last 4 years getting ready for a Hillary run and the play book has already been written. I have also read that the Republicans are extremely worried about the amount of Money Obama is raising and about the fact that most of it is coming from small donors over the internet.
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by msabccbs March 4, 2008 8:39 AM PST
Excerpt of the Washington Post story on Whitewater:

A fraudulent $300,000 federally backed loan to Susan McDougal, some of which went into Whitewater Development Corp. David Hale, a former Little Rock judge whose company issued the loan, told investigators that Bill Clinton pressured him to do so.
The mysterious disappearance and rediscovery of billing records showing the extent of Hillary Clinton''s legal work for McDougal''s savings and loan. Missing and under subpoena for two years, they turned up in January 1996 in the Clintons'' private quarters at the White House.
The firing of seven members of the White House travel office in 1993, possibly to make room for Clinton friends %u2013 followed by an FBI investigation of the office, allegedly opened under pressure from the White House to justify the firings. Sometimes called "Travelgate."
The 1993 suicide of White House counsel Vincent Foster, hard on the heels of the travel-office imbroglio and his filing of delinquent Whitewater Corp. tax returns.
The collection of hundreds of confidential FBI files on prominent Republicans by a minor White House operative in 1993 and 1994. Sometimes called "Filegate."
The more than $700,000 paid to former associate attorney general Webster L. Hubbell, most of it from friends of President Clinton and Democratic Party supporters, just as the former law partner of Hillary Clinton was coming under intense scrutiny by Whitewater investigators.
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by missingamerica March 4, 2008 8:41 AM PST
There is a lot of truth in that statement. The Republicans have spent at least the last 4 years getting ready for a Hillary run and the play book has already been written.

Posted by omega39 at 08:38 AM : Mar 04, 2008

I just wish I could have been a fly on the wall of the RNC headquarters when Obama surged to the front.

All of that careful planning, the money invested in preliminary work on 527 ads...straight down the toilet.

I love the fallacy of "conventional wisdom" - but even more importantly, I love the innate wisdom the American people are showing.
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by pensacola88 March 4, 2008 8:44 AM PST
Formula for corporate wealth = firm creates opportunity and pays lobbyist + political lobbyist makes political campaign contribution to candidate who will likely give their client an advantage.

Said another way:

Record profits for Health Care and Medicine Suppliers = multi-million dollar payments to political lobbyist, who then pays Hillary Clinton for legislation that provides greatest profitable advantage for Health Care Insurer, Providor, and Medicine suppliers and distributors.

Barak Obama has no political favors to return to any Medical Insurer, Health Care providor, or Medicine supplier or distributor. He can give voters the best advantage possible, because he took no PAC or Lobby money for his campaign.
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by liberalvet March 4, 2008 8:47 AM PST
YEAH - its the last 24 hours of Hillarys run for president - YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by craigh9 at 07:37 AM : Mar 04, 2008

I would like to think so as well, but highly doubt it.

Even if Obama sweeps today, the Clinton machine will argue that she won the biggest states and deserves to be the nominee.

I think she''''s determined to be the nominee by hook or by crook....

Posted by formrusmcsgt at 07:40 AM : Mar 04, 2008

I could not have said it better myself.... I have been on the fence for sometime now. I know without a doubt if either candidate won they will be 100% better than McCain or any other knuckle dragging Republican out there.

But I must say Hillary has stepped over the line in the last month. She has shown her true desire for the power and will do anything to attain it. That includes cheating and if need be seriously hinder the Democrats oppurtunity to win the Presidency in Novemeber.

I see Obama as a man of intigrity and honor, something the office of the Presidency so bably needs. The office has been ashamed and degradated for the past 7 seven years. I jsut do not see Hillary being able to clean it up as she so states it needs to be.

At the end of tonight, if she has not made any clear advances she should quit and do the right thing.
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by rowdytexan2 March 4, 2008 8:50 AM PST
"The difference with Obama and the point pensacola is making is that he won''''t be beholding to special interests for cash for his next campaign."

Good God, he''s been getting PAC money support all along! And lobbyists!

Obama is a politician, not a saint! Just like other politicians he will do whatever it takes!

The Neocons WANT to run against Obama. They''ll eat him alive when he doesn''t have Hillary writing down all his answers and putting them up on a telepromptor for him!
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by rowdytexan2 March 4, 2008 8:52 AM PST
Get out and vote today for the one that can make the changes, not just talk about them!

Get out and vote today for the one that wrote the plans, not the one that copied them down!

Go Hillary! Fight like a tiger!
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by jesterbelle March 4, 2008 8:53 AM PST
I love the innate wisdom the American people are showing.


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Posted by ibsteve2u at 08:41 AM : Mar 04, 2008

I was wondering,are you including the people that continue to support a candidate that can''t win the nomination legitimately,and hasn''t a prayer in the general election,since independents will not vote for "her"?Just checking.
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by jesterbelle March 4, 2008 8:59 AM PST
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 08:52 AM : Mar 04, 2008

Speaking of "Hillary Krishnas"...No thanks,Rowdy.I don''t need any reading material.I''ve got an airplane to catch!
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by cbs_oliver March 4, 2008 9:01 AM PST
It is interesting to me that the Democratic contest is becoming a test of the moral character of the candidates and the media - and so far as I can tell both Hillary and the Media are showing that they favor deceit and misleading quibbles over truthfulness.

Those who have good values need to look into the facts carefully for themselves.

It''s time we had a President who was morally straight.
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by ajaxtheleast March 4, 2008 9:07 AM PST
OBAMA DELIVERS SWIFTBOTOX ACCIDENT TO HILLARY!

The front cover of an ohio flyer shows Obama
looking young and essential.

The back cover shows Hillary in an EXTREME,
to say the least, closeup looking . . . . . . . . essentially . . . .
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by radiob-2009 March 4, 2008 9:10 AM PST
It''''s time we had a President who was morally straight.


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Posted by CBS_Oliver

Then we had better draft one as all are beholden to lobbyist and all of them are snake oil salesmen.
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by ora734 March 4, 2008 9:11 AM PST
Hillary to hit Obama on Nafta requires one''s suspension of disbelief or reality. Clinton will say anything and do anything, hence the oldest profession. If you want a leader that agrees with things she disagrees with and panders to the enemey, and cries in a meeting with the heads of Europe when the boys get tough with her, well Clinton is your woman...
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by rowdytexan2 March 4, 2008 9:13 AM PST
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 08:52 AM : Mar 04, 2008

Speaking of "Hillary Krishnas"...No thanks,Rowdy.I don''''t need any reading material.I''''ve got an airplane to catch!


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Posted by jesterbelle at 08:59 AM : Mar 04, 2008

Have a good trip!
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by jesterbelle March 4, 2008 9:14 AM PST
OBAMA DELIVERS SWIFTBOTOX ACCIDENT TO HILLARY!

The front cover of an ohio flyer shows Obama
looking young and essential.

The back cover shows Hillary in an EXTREME,
to say the least, closeup looking . . . . . . . . essentially . . . .


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Posted by ajaxtheleast at 09:07 AM : Mar 04, 2008

ROFL! Swiftbotox!
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by rowdytexan2 March 4, 2008 9:16 AM PST
Hillary to hit Obama on Nafta requires one''''s suspension of disbelief or reality. Clinton will say anything and do anything, hence the oldest profession. If you want a leader that agrees with things she disagrees with and panders to the enemey, and cries in a meeting with the heads of Europe when the boys get tough with her, well Clinton is your woman...


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Posted by ora734 at 09:11 AM : Mar 04, 2008

Nawww, we want a president like Obama who will go to another country and wink wink tell them his beliefs, then come home and tell us what he thinks we want to hear.
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by jesterbelle March 4, 2008 9:17 AM PST
Have a good trip!


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Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 09:13 AM : Mar 04, 2008

LOL,Hey Rowdy,What''s up?
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by briannorwood March 4, 2008 9:21 AM PST
Scene1: It''s the Whitehouse bedroom. Bill and Hillary are asleep. It''s 3:00am. The phone is ringing. Bill slowly awakes and answers the phone "Hello"

Scene2: Monika Lewinsky, wearing a blue dress replys "Hi Bill. Did ya miss me?"


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by msabccbs March 4, 2008 9:28 AM PST
Washington Post article:

A fraudulent $300,000 federally backed loan to Susan McDougal, some of which went into Whitewater Development Corp. David Hale, a former Little Rock judge whose company issued the loan, told investigators that Bill Clinton pressured him to do so. The mysterious disappearance and rediscovery of billing records showing the extent of Hillary Clinton''s legal work for McDougal''s savings and loan. Missing and under subpoena for two years, they turned up in January 1996 in the Clintons'' private quarters at the White House. The firing of seven members of the White House travel office in 1993, possibly to make room for Clinton friends %u2013 followed by an FBI investigation of the office, allegedly opened under pressure from the White House to justify the firings. Sometimes called "Travelgate." The 1993 suicide of White House counsel Vincent Foster, hard on the heels of the travel-office imbroglio and his filing of delinquent Whitewater Corp. tax returns.
The collection of hundreds of confidential FBI files on prominent Republicans by a minor White House operative in 1993 and 1994. Sometimes called "Filegate." The more than $700,000 paid to former associate attorney general Webster L. Hubbell, most of it from friends of President Clinton and Democratic Party supporters, just as the former law partner of Hillary Clinton was coming under intense scrutiny by Whitewater investigators."
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by ora734 March 4, 2008 9:29 AM PST
Nawww, we want a president like Obama who will go to another country and wink wink tell them his beliefs, then come home and tell us what he thinks we want to hear. rowdytexan




I guess you want a closet liberal like mcCain who like clinton will say anything to get elected. Either way i win on all 3 candidates, the Supreme court is becoming more progresive....;
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by ponco seno March 4, 2008 9:41 AM PST
OBAMA 08
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