Marine's Puppy-Throwing Video Draws Ire

Video Apparently Of Soldier Throwing Puppy Off Cliff Leads To Military Investigation

(AP)  A U.S. Marine smiles as he holds what appears to be a puppy by the scruff of the neck. The face of the motionless animal is shown to the camera as another Marine comments on how cute it is.

The black-and-white puppy is then tossed off a rocky cliff.

Whether the 17-second Internet video clip is authentic or a prank, it has drawn sharp condemnation and widespread outrage.

Animal rights groups said Tuesday they have been flooded with e-mails and calls about the disturbing video, which was viewed tens of thousands of times before it was taken down by YouTube.com on Tuesday "due to terms of use violation." Many people expressed shock and anger on Web sites and blogs.

"We're appalled," said Martin Mersereau, spokesman for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or PETA, in Norfolk, Virginia. "Thankfully, it appears the Marines are taking this very seriously, as we expected that they would."

The U.S. Marine Corps is investigating the video, calling it "deplorable and contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine."

"We do not tolerate this type of behavior and will take appropriate action," it said in a statement.

The alleged name of the Marine who threw the puppy, a 22-year-old lance corporal based at Kaneohe Bay, was uttered in the video and now has been widely circulated on the Internet.

Maj. Chris Perrine, spokesman for the Marine Corps Base Hawaii, earlier said the Marine involved could be based at Kaneohe, but would not confirm his identity.

Perrine was not accepting calls or questions Tuesday, assistant Linda Yokoyama said.

The low-quality video shows two Marines joking before one then hurls the puppy into a rocky gully. A yelping sound is heard as it flips through the air.

Mersereau said an expert with PETA has analyzed the clip frame by frame.

"There are cues in the audio that give us pause, but we have no conclusion, opinion on its validity," he said. "We feel it's absolutely necessary that investigators determine its legitimacy by speaking directly with all those who were involved."

The apparent discrepancy is in the audio of the puppy yelping as it is airborne. Despite the dog moving away from the camera, the sound does not diminish or fade.

"The sound of the puppy screaming doesn't seem to jive with his rapidly increasing distance," said Mersereau, who noted that the group is working with poor quality video from the Internet and not the original tape.

Whether the puppy was dead or alive before it was thrown is also at question.

Mersereau said the puppy being motionless when it was held before the camera does not prove it was dead. Puppies, especially when very young, sometimes go limp when being picked up by the nape, he said.

The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals International said it was horrified by the acts displayed in the video and hopes the Marine Corps takes "swift and strong action."

Stephanie Scroggs, spokesman for the Washington-based group, said the video was the complete opposite of what she has experienced with U.S. troops. In November, the group launched "Operation Baghdad Pups," helping service members rescue and bring home animals they befriended in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"(They're) desperate to bring them out of that situation and show incredible acts of kindness," she said.

At a cost of $10,000, the group last week helped bring to the U.S. two dogs including a puppy that was found tangled in razor wire during a gunfight in Baghdad. The dog named "K-Pot" was adopted by the family of an Army medic, who treated its wounds.

[nothappyatall]

I don''''t know how anyone can say this video is fake. The actual video shows them first throwing rocks at a dog that has two broken back legs and the dog is literally yelping for them to leave him alone, but then begins to literally run from them on its two front legs. Then in another segment, they pass by a shepard with sheep and as they are passing by in their truck, they fire at the sheep literally killing several and laughing about it. Finally, at the end, you have the guy throwing the puppy off the cliff. It is really sad all the way around.

Posted by rudy654"

Those are other clips, but I am aware of those, and all of those show abuse by laughing US TROOPS, including the ones wholobbed flash-bang grenades at sheep herders flocks on the road for ''fun'', note- the herder was standing amid the flock as well- now instant US hater as a result.

atheism2.freeforums.org

[honestabe8]

toss the marine over the cliff.

[nothappyatall]

You see many of those sci fi elements coming true, especially the Govt implants/permanent ID, and the Govt watching everyone with motion cameras.
You can find thousands of spy cams mounted supposedly for safety and traffic control or live road conditions, buildings having rooftop cams monitoring the public streets for "crime," stores putting those tiny plastic tracking chips on products you buy- read about THOSE and the potential.

And we have a Govt wanting to mandate a permanent ID card, iris scan, fingerprints and/or an implantable CHIP with all of your information on it- just like the palm implants in LOGANS RUN used to store people''s ID, history, background, finances and...whereabouts

As you see the movies and the parallels today, its easy to see how we are heading for similar scenarios in several ways to those movies, suddenly they dont seem so ''sci fi'' fiction as they did in the 70s

[nothappyatall]

"Sadism that draws pleasure from cruelty to animals even has its own subdivision of sadism. Its called zoosadism.
Posted by voxpopulus "

That is correct, zoosadism is also not related to zoophilia.

"newster1, I recently had the misfortunes to watch "Logan''''s Run" again. I think I''''d rather be barbecued. I had no memory of it being THAT bad."

Vox; Soylent green may be the more dramatic one, but Logan''s run certainly shows a Govt out of control and overpopulation to the point where the Govt decided to allow people to live I think it was 32 years- monitored by a device implanted into the palm like todays rice sized scannable tracking/health implants which was sci fi in the 70s... Once you hit that age you were to report to be killed- to make room for more babies. Logan decided to defy that and try to escape.
The govt had cams all over everywhere watching everyone- think of the traffic cams, web cams, CCTv cams that are growing monthly like weeds- sci fi comes true there, as did D. Tracys fantasy wrist watch TV/phone- as cell phones!

[voxpopulus]

"and by the way Vox sadism is not even referred in any way to animals"

And by the way cwzywbt you are wrong again.

Sadism that draws pleasure from cruelty to animals even has its own subdivision of sadism. It''s called zoosadism.

[rudy654-2009]

I don''t know how anyone can say this video is fake. The actual video shows them first throwing rocks at a dog that has two broken back legs and the dog is literally yelping for them to leave him alone, but then begins to literally run from them on its two front legs. Then in another segment, they pass by a shepard with sheep and as they are passing by in their truck, they fire at the sheep literally killing several and laughing about it. Finally, at the end, you have the guy throwing the puppy off the cliff. It is really sad all the way around.

[voxpopulus]

cwazywabt: AND vox.... I WAS IN THE ARMY FOR 12 YRS" They take ''em at three now do they?

Sure dude, I believe you completely.

[voxpopulus]

newster1, I recently had the misfortunes to watch "Logan''s Run" again. I think I''d rather be barbecued. I had no memory of it being THAT bad.

[michellem99-2009]

I think the marines at the centre of the story should clean the living areas of his base. On the news they would not show the whole thing. How did candy make it way on here. He should clean the brig,,

[nothappyatall]

"I did not watch the visual and have no desire to.
Posted by MichelleM99 "

One word of advice michelle; DONT

[nothappyatall]

"Why do more and more fellow Americans always have the the urge to make people of this country "look" more like a bunch of retarded apes."

No one has to actively go out of their way to do it, it gets done automatically, people just point out the obvious.

[michellem99-2009]

I did not watch the vistual and have no desise to.

[gigagrunt-2009]

Went ahead and correct my post.

Why do more and more fellow Americans always have the the urge to make people of this country "look" more like a bunch of retarded apes. I mean we are already hated by a large portion of the world as it is.

[gigagrunt-2009]

I''ll tell you all what. Being a former military man myself, we won''t hear anything about this lance corporal being punished under UCMJ unless the public makes a bigger outcry about it. Why do more and more fellow americans always have the the urge to make people of this country like more like a bunch of retarded apes. I mean we are already hated by a large portion of the world as it is.

[zootallures2]

He should go in the zoo with Michelle Malkin and the neo-cons, nazis, kkk, zionists, and sa*dists. Maybe we can make a wild life refuge some where in a really deep pit so they can''t get out. We can have the Sean Hannity and Bill O''Reilly exibit, you can toss them banannas and they do tricks for you or dance. You can laugh at Sean''s tail and red arse.

[deemsnyd]

Good night.

[deemsnyd]

deemsnyd -- If you are a venturous female, I can help you find ways to enjoy the rest of the Twizzler.

Posted by MrsC-hazadik at 09:54 PM : Mar 05, 2008


Okay, but the dog has to stay outside.

[deemsnyd]

Simple, you read the lengthy neutral article and learn what abuse is and what its not;
wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia

posted by Newster1


Sorry, man I can''t do that. What if someone gets my computer and looks at the hard drive? C r a p, what if they think "twizzlers" is code for some freaky animal s e x?? What are we gonna do now, guys? Hello?? Where are my twizzler eating buddies? OMG, I did it again! (running for the door)

[mrsc-hazadik]

deemsnyd -- If you are a venturous female, I can help you find ways to enjoy the rest of the Twizzler.

[nothappyatall]

"Soooo.....who gets it? You or the bull? Just askin''''

Posted by deemsnyd"

Im not going to go into private details dude, Im a dog owner which is why this story involving a puppy concerns me.