February 11, 2009 3:22 PM

To Tithe Or Not To Tithe?

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(CBS)  Tithing, the giving of one tenth of one's income to a religious group, has its roots in the Old Testament. But some Christians are questioning it, and the answers might surprise you. In an era when contributions to religious groups are growing more slowly than other charitable giving, and as Congress takes a closer look at the finances of some televangelists, Martha Teichner examines the controversy over tithing, and meets some inspiring people who strongly believe in the power of generosity.


Pastor Marty Baker is a believer in the idea. "When Jesus says, 'I will build the church,' he says, financially, I've got a system for you," Baker preaches, "It's called tithing."

Tithing means giving a tenth of your income - and church construction is exactly what pastor Marty Baker is pitching his congregation to pay for.

"God doesn't fund the church through bingo nights, pancake suppers and chicken dinners," Baker says. "God funds the church through people willing to commit to the tithe."

Over twenty years, tithing has helped transform Stevens Creek Church in Augusta, Georgia from a few people in somebody's living room to a megachurch in the making.

"Without tithing, we would not be here," says Baker. "I would say that the tithe probably would be around 70% of our overall budget. The tithe is the heartbeat of our church."

Giving is central to most religions, a principle of faith. Americans donate $295 billion a year to charity, with just under a third of it - $97 billion - to religious organizations.

On average, Christians are giving about 2.5 percent of their income to churches, not ten, and no matter how much good it does, tithing is controversial.

"We believe that everything the churches teach about tithing is wrong," author Russell Kelly says.

Teichner reports it's a hot button issue that has reached critical mass on the Internet.

From his home near Marietta, Georgia, Russell Kelly wages war against preachers who use the Bible to justify tithing. His Web site, shouldthechurchteachtithing, argues against the supporters of tithing.

"We believe if you look at those texts they quote," he says, "they are out of context."

But that's not his only objection.

"Almost every person I contact on the Internet, they tell me the same story, where they go to their pastor - no matter what kind of church it is, Baptist, Charismatic, Methodist, you name it - and start asking questions about tithing, they are told to shut up, to be quiet, to leave the church."

It happened to his own wife, when her first husband was dying.

"I had a $5 an hour job, a small child to raise, and my husband kept getting, sicker and sicker," Janice Kelly told Teichner. "It came to the point whether I buy insulin for him or whether I pay my tithes, so I went to the preacher."

Janice Kelly didn't expect his response.

"He just ... told me I would be cursed."

"I'm angry that my church would twist and fleece the flock, twist the scripture to such a point that it's just awful," says retired aerospace worker Charles Crabtree.

Crabtree got mad when he received a letter from his pastor.

"In that letter, they were asking us to tithe and they used Malachi."

The reading was Malachi 3:10: "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse … and test me now in this, says the Lord of hosts. If I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until it overflows."

"Protestants, both mainline and evangelical, have since the 1870s, fixed upon the tithe and on this Malachi passage as a kind of law that has never been repealed," explains James Hudnut-Beumler, dean of the divinity school at Vanderbilt University.

Yes, only since the 1870s, as a way of making up lost revenue. The First Amendment in effect privatized religion in the United States, cutting off the tax money that once supported it in colonial America. The weekly collection didn't even exist until the middle of the 19th century, when churches gave up selling or renting pews.

"I'm somewhat suspicious of people who want to turn giving ten percent into virtually the only law that applies to people who are under a covenant of grace," says Hudnut-Beumler, "where God saves freely, not for ten percent down."

He says he's reminded of Martin Luther, father of the Protestant movement, who broke away from the Catholic church because it was selling indulgences: Promises of a quicker road to heaven in exchange for cash.

"Stripped down to its basics," he says, "I don't think it's different than indulgences. What we see today, though, is a return to 'this-for-that religion,' give God this and God will give you that."

Iowa Senator Charles Grassley wants to know how God happened to give the trappings of a billionaire lifestyle to certain televangelists and whether donors, many of them tithers, are being exploited.



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by somewhereover January 22, 2012 7:08 PM EST
I will never believe in titheing. My grandmother belonged to a church and attended every Sunday and gave money every week. She was on a very small, fixed income. They didn't care. They had her brainwashed into thinking she wouldn't go to heaven. Then she got ill and couldn't go to church so they showed up at her apartment asking for the tithe. They didn't bring cards or food or offer to clean or help her like I always thought churches did. Just wanted her money. Sick.
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by RevolutionEra December 28, 2011 1:55 PM EST
Biblical proof that tithing is not for us in the New Covenant can be found here in this article:

http://revolutionera.com/mystery-revealed-why-millions-of-christian-ti

Read and be set free!
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by heis4real November 6, 2011 2:32 PM EST
How is it that Christians sit in a Church building for years and not understand the difference in Old Covenant vs New Covenant??

Even a five yr. old knows what "New" means! If you want to shut these Tithe Police mouths-just ask them to open up their bibles and turn to Leviticus, (in the Old Testament), then ask them how many of those 613 Old Covenant laws are they breaking, including the one that forbids pork and activities on the Sabbath day (Saturday). THEN ASK THEM WHY THEY HAVE N-O-T BEEN STONED TO DEATH?
It's called Grace. GOD GAVE YOU HIS GRACE THE MINUTE HE SAVED YOU

Galatians 3:13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law
Romans 10:3 Christ is the end of the law for righteousness for everyone who believes.
Act 13:39 And by Him you are FREED from all things by which you could not be freed by the law of Moses.
Galatians 4:24 -30 "Cast out the slave woman her son will not inherit the promise with the free woman's son. This is a type and allegory of the two covenants. Old Covenant vs The New Covenant.
Keeping the law does not save you because no one but someone sinless keep the law. Now you have the Holy Spirit who inwardly enables you to keep the law and guide you, if you have been redeemed. Christians need a clue as to what the Plan of Salvation is and what Grace is!
Grace is Unmerited favor. You got God's favor when Jesus saved you free of charge
Romans 8:32 "Since God did not spare His own Son but gave Him up for us all, surely he will also with Him (Jesus) FREELY GIVE US ALL
THINGS.

PS I give more than ten percent when I can as my act of worship but I do not believe I must pay God for what Jesus paid in full on the Cross to give me for free!
me for free
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by myIife2live September 27, 2011 8:52 PM EDT
I quit tithing years ago when I was struggling to pay the bills and send my two children to school. The reason? The Bethel Baptist Association Director of my state was born and raised in my small town. He still had relatives here, including his mother, and he came often for church appearances. I learned that not only did he have a very expensive car, wear very expensive clothes, and take very expensive trips, he had his personal airplane. I was furious. Since he had been a pastor before he became BBAD, I knew he had made his fortune "in the church". Did the Lord provide this for him? No, the Lord would have stopped at needs, not desires. His poor mother lived in a sub-standard house in town, and did her own chores and lived very modestly. I haven't tithed since, because he only retired a few years ago, and I had learned a good deal more since then about where the church spends tithes. I didn't like it.

I didn't quit giving to charity, however, and as of this day, I have helped a less fortunate sister to the tune of $15,000.00 for a car and for housing needs in the past two years. I'm also constantly going places in my car to save on her gas, etc. Now, I find that out of her 680.00 a month total income, she tithes. I also learned that the church she goes to gave on two seperate occasions $5,000.00 to people that live better than her. MAD AGAIN. Yes, I'm really mad. How can she take my money and then give hers to people who give it away to others who have more than she does to live on? I just found this out, so I'm not sure what I'll do. I'm definitely going to stop worrying about her finances, though, and quit spending my money on her if she thinks giving to a church so that the can give to people who have more than she does makes any good sense at all. Sorry, but church folks aren't God, and so far, God hasn't told me to share my hard work earnings with people who have more than I do.
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by HairGospel September 23, 2011 6:36 PM EDT
If one is a true beliver of teachings of Jesus Christ, there is really no need to waiver between the issue of tithing or not tithing. Tithing enables the gospel of good news to be spread all over the world-and right now the world is in a great deal of need of good news.

God does not need our money-he wants us to show our love for obeying his commandments. This will enable others to find out the joy peace and love that only the gospel can give.
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by heis4real November 6, 2011 11:56 AM EST
Giving a tithe is not what most people object to about this issue! Quit muddying the water!

What is in dispute here is its application, meaning the way Church leadership is misquoting & twisting the Scriptures to collect the tithes.

We are not all bible illiterates who have not read the bible for ourselves and take hand me down messages without investigation.

Some of us understand Jesus words on that cross "Paid in Full" as in It is Finished", yet they want us to believe Jesus said Pay in Full.

No lie will sustain itself that is why this Tithe mandate will always be in dispute. There is a vast difference between Old Covenant vs New Covenant. Before Jesus died and After he died.

As an example before Jesus died the law required Sabbath rest starting Frid. evening to Saturday night rest from all activity.
No pork eating. Circumcise your male infant at 8 days old. Observe the Jewish High Holy Day of Yom Kippur known as The Day of Atonement, yet you will not find mainstream Christian churches keeping any of these laws, yet they mandate one law the tithe law!
Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 that the Tithe law was not even the most important (weightier) matter of the law and this was before he died and said Paid in Full, so the law was still effective until he died. He did not praise the Pharisees for tithing FOOD and spices (not money by the way) but he rebuked them.

Here were 613 Old Covenant laws goggle them if you haven't read Leviticus.

I'd like to know which ones you broke and which ones you kept?
Where is your lamb without blemish sacrifice on the Day of Atonement? When you answer that question you will know what some of us object to about tithing! Jesus is our New Covenant and he fulfilled the sum of the law because he was sinless and no sinner could keep the whole law!! James 2:10 said to break one law voided the entire covenant contract. Jesus is the fulfillment of the law and the Prophets! So boast in his payment on the cross and not tithe payment.
2nd Corinthians 9:7 in the New Testament is an instruction on voluntarily.
Another misquote the tithe police do is use Abraham's one time tithing to Melchizedek (a typology of Christ). They say since Abraham tithe before the Leviticus laws so should Gentiles, well the same would apply to Sabbath rest and circumcision which also predates the law yet Pastors do not mandate these two. To break these laws meant death, breaking the circumcision law was a capital crime before and after Moses gave the Leviticus Old Covenant laws! See how inconsistent they are?
Abraham was not given the blessing from tithe paying, Abraham was given the blessing because he had faith in promise, that promise was in the promise of the Messiah Jesus. Get an understanding ofGalatians 3:14

It is especially detestable that at money collection time to enforce tithing most Christian Churches quote an Old Covenant mandate that God gave o a completely different nation(Israel) under a completely different covenant to New Covenant Christians whom Christ has redeemed from the curse of the law.

Even a fifth grader can figure out that you cannot be redeemed from the curse of the law and cursed for not keeping the law all at the same time!

READ GALATIANS WITH A GOOD BIBLE COMMENTARY ON GALATIANS.
TITHE LEGALIST, STOP DISTORTING THE TRUTH!

JESUS sent us the Holy Spirit to lead and guide us into all truth, even on how much to give. Let the Holy Spirit do it's job! He will also give discernment and bare witness to the Truth.

Galatians 3:11 "Clearly no one is justified by keeping the law....the just shall live by faith.

Galatians 3:13 "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law by being cursed for us on the cross...

Romans 10:4 "Christ is the END of the law for righteousness for everyone who believes
by heis4real August 14, 2011 2:22 PM EDT
Jesus and the Holy Spirit is better than the Old Covenant which was a conditional covenant based on laws and works. Christians have been given the New Covenant of Grace. The Holy Spirit is in us to guide and lead us into all truth. How very sad that most Christians are not understanding the Differences in Law and Grace. Old and New Covenant. Judaism and Christianity, Before and after Jesus died.
Galatians 3:11 "CLEARLY NO ONE IS MADE RIGHT WITH GOD BY KEEPING THE LAW...
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by Read_and_Learn November 14, 2010 11:15 AM EST
Put your wallet back in your pocket. Please.

www.bible-truths.com
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by heis4real October 11, 2010 9:30 PM EDT
Galatians 5:4
Galatians 5:4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.

You are not a Jew living under the Old Covenant. You do not even sound like a Christian are you would believe that Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law by taking our place and becoming a curse for us on the cross! (Galatians 3:13) I believe Jesus fulfilled the law for me.
All have sinned and fallen short (missed the mark of perfection, therefore no one can not sin and keep all of God's requirements. The Jews had 613 laws, 7 Feast and a ton of rituals and could not keep them which is why Jesus came to save us. Grace is Unmerited favor.

The New Testament said believers (Christians) are now under the Dispensation of Grace since Jesus said Paid n full! You can believe what you want and I will continue to accept Grace through faith (unearned favor) because of the payment Jesus made for me on the Cross and not my own! Thank God!
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by Pacof8989 March 10, 2010 4:22 PM EST
The greatest Ponzi Scheme in the history of Chritianity is the tithe. God said it was food, man changed the bible to convert the tithe to money. I resigned from tithing after 30 years of deception. Now I want everyone to know it does not work. Lean how to resign from tithing and read this:
http://blackchristiannews.com/bloggers/2009/12/how-to-resign-by-dr-frank-chase-jr.html
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by BlueSkunk12 January 19, 2010 3:17 AM EST
Churches LOVE to use Malachi 3:8-10. But they gloss over what it says.

Malachi 3:10
"Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be FOOD in my house."

Is it talking about funding the Church? No. Is it talking about paying for Staff, or maintenance, or that spiffy new multi-million dollar addition? Nope. Malachi 3:10 says FOOD. For the PEOPLE.

That was the purpose of the Tithe, to provide for the Levites (who had no inheritance), who gave 10% of the Tithe to the Priests (Num. 18:21-28). Every third year, the Tithe was to be shared with aliens, orphans, widows, and the poor (Deu. 14:27-29).

Using the Tithe to fund the Church is NOT Biblical. It is twisting, abusing, and distorting Scripture. It is a lie from the Father of Lies to pervert the true purpose of the Tithe (to care for the people).

If the Church cannot survive in its current form without falsely collecting and misusing Tithes, then let the Churches fail so that we can finally serve God in Spirit and in Truth.
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