CHICAGO, Feb. 28, 2008
Farrakhan: Don't Abandon Obama Over Remark
Nation Of Islam Leader Tells Supporters Not To Be Dissuaded By Senator's Reaction
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Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan delivers a speech in observance of Saviours' Day on Sunday, Feb. 24, 2008, in Chicago. (AP)
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His statement comes after Obama was asked during Tuesday's televised debate with Democratic presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clintonabout Farrakhan's support for the Obama campaign. Obama said he denounces Farrakhan's anti-Semitic remarks and rejects his support.
Farrakhan sent an unsolicited statement Thursday to The Associated Press that he said was meant to respond to "outrage expressed by many" over Obama's comments.
"Those who have been supporting Sen. Barack Obama should not allow what was said during the Feb. 26 presidential debate to lessen their support for his campaign. This is simply mischief making intended to hurt Mr. Obama politically."
Farrakhan later clarified that by "mischief making" he was referring to the questions posed by debate moderator Tim Russert, host of NBC's "Meet the Press."
The issue arose Sunday, when Farrakhan praised Obama before a large Nation of Islam gathering, even comparing him to the religion's founder, Fard Muhammad, who also had a white mother and black father.
"A black man with a white mother became a savior to us," Farrakhan said Sunday. "A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall."
The Obama campaign moved quickly to distance itself from Farrakhan. Just hours after the address, the campaign said, "Senator Obama has been clear in his objections to Minister Farrakhan's past pronouncements and has not solicited the minister's support."
Farrakhan has drawn widespread attention in the past for making anti-Semitic remarks, including calling Judaism a "gutter religion." In recent years, officials with the Nation of Islam have said they favor unity and tolerance among religions, and Farrakhan now often quotes the texts of other religions in his speeches.
During Tuesday's debate, Russert pressed Obama about whether he accepts Farrakhan's support. The senator responded that while both he and Farrakhan live in Chicago, that's where their ties end.
"I have been very clear in my denunciation of Minister Farrakhan's anti-Semitic comments. I think that they are unacceptable and reprehensible," Obama said. "I did not solicit this support."
Following an exchange with Clinton, he then added: "There's no formal offer of help from Minister Farrakhan that would involve me rejecting it. But if the word 'reject' Senator Clinton feels is stronger than the word 'denounce,' then I'm happy to concede the point, and I would reject and denounce."
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See all 75 CommentsOutrage expressed by many? Farrakhan must mean a handful of vicious nut cases who eat his bean pies!
Everyone else thinks Farrakhan is a cockroach in search of a can of Raid.
A man with a white mother is not a Black man. He is a mixed race Black and White man.
As usual, the Muslims seem to think females are beneath notice. Their book, the Koran, states it plainly in several places "men are a step above women."
This isn''t a religion; this is a fascist political party.
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For example, gkc99.
Posted by gkc99 at 05:31 PM : Feb 28, 2008"
Well now there''s a short sighted comment. Not sure I''ve heard anyone stating "he''s not black, he''s mixed" at least not anyone without an agenda.
Posted by gkc99 at 05:31 PM : Feb 28, 2008"
Because of course you''ve read the Koran and can site the relevant passages from memory...care to site any of those passages...Buhler?...anyone?
Certainly I could. It''s in there. However we ran short of TP so some pages may have been removed from my Koran.
I believe the word you are looking for is "cite", not "site", genius.
I support Obama for president and have sent him $. I''m proud that he''s part White. And part Black.
You got a problem with that?
Farrakhan can keep his support. It can only hurt whoever he gives it to.
Posted by erpcat at 08:01 PM : Feb 28, 2008
Barack Hussien Obama was not in Congress in 2002 when the Iraq vote was taken, he was in Illinois but he said he was opposed to it, how could he make a decision if he was not around when the intelligence was shared with Congress?
....... Hillary ''08 ... all the way for the USA!
Wether or not he openly admits to being a muslim it has been my experience that they believe it is good to be christian but better to be muslim. He was educated in a muslim elementary school were children are the most influential. And Islam did say they would destroy the U.S. from the inside. What a better place to start than that of the highest held postion in our country.
we elected bill clinton who brought disgrace upon the whitehouse and was mired in scandal after scandal throughout his presidency. we elected george bush who ignored warnings that could have prevented 911.
we can only blame ourselves for these decisions.
Why is it that McCain gets a free pass on embracing hatemongers like Hagee, while Obama has to answer for something he didn''t even ask for? I''m thinking maybe because when it''s a white face saying it, everything''s OK.
Judging by how unintelligent the "intelligence" was, it''s lucky he wasn''t in Congress - otherwise he''d have been spoon fed the same murderous lies Bush peddled to everyone else.
Before "we all" answer, are you seriously considering getting therapy for your bigotry? ''Cause you''re either a regular old bigot, or a paid shill for the Neocons. Yeah, OK, maybe you''re both, can see how they''d go hand in hand....
Must be a terrible position to be in, having so much hate against your fellow Americans and knowing one of them - with the middle name Hussein - is going to be your next president.
Judging by how unintelligent the "intelligence" was, it''''s lucky he wasn''''t in Congress - otherwise he''''d have been spoon fed the same murderous lies Bush peddled to everyone else.
Posted by pakaal at 10:05 PM : Feb 28, 2008
But my point is, he did not hear the intell, or lies, whichever you prefer, and made a decision. How can you do that?
Correct? Says who? There is nothing wrong with "mixed race".
And what if they''re of three racial backgrounds? Triracial?
It''s only White racism that categorizes anyone with any aliquot of Black blood as "Black". The good Christians of the South used to call it "touch of the tarbrush." White Christian laws branded any person even of 7/8 White racial ancestry as an "octaroon".
The biological fact is that Obama is of mixed race.
And unless some of our previous presidents had that "touch of the tarbrush", he''ll be the first president of that background.
Incorrect, a few Muslin ministers (and also other political watchers, and even Stevie Wonder, in his song "Big Brother") said that America would destroy itself from the inside, there is a big difference, and current events bear out the truth of that assertion, and as for the "better to be a Muslim" part of your post, every organized religion brainwashes its'' followers to think likewise.
"i got a problem with giving up the second largest oil reserve in the world that our troops have fought and died for." Posted by lobo0010
Why fight and die for something that we should simply pay for? Neocon Capitalists pushed the "pay to play" system on the world, now when it is their time to pay, you would rather change the rule to "murder and be murdered"...
Finally to cherryang
Take your porn spam elsewhere, not welcome here. Reported.
The difference between Minister Farrakhan and David Duke is that Mr. Farrakhan preaches non acceptance and the proactive defeat of apartheid, Duke preaches the proactive continuance of it, there is a huge difference, which I believe you are not aware of because instead of reading the entirety of Minister Farrakhan''s speeches and lectures, you choose to read the incorrect interpretations made by those whose interests are hindered by the concept.
Posted by brianbwb at 11:45 PM : Feb 28, 2008
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wow you sound just like that piece of shi*t farrakhan..what other bad things those jews OH I MEAN those neocons did to the world..BETTER YET i want to hear what you want to do with the neocons...
Posted by libsrweak
I want to do nothing to them, I only wish that they lose forever their ability to negatively affect my life and constitutionally guaranteed rights, and that they be made to adhere to the same rules they have forced upon us.
As for the neocon named Bush, I wish that he and his co-conspirators Cheney, Rove, Powell Wolfowitz, Feith, Rice, Rumsfeld, and those who assisted him in committing and continuing his crimes against humanity, both Democrat and Republican, are held personally responsible for lying our country into the current "war", and its'' continuance.
Now your turn, please show where my words are incorrect, your disagreement means nothing, but it might help understanding to know what part of it you disagree with...
So Obama is somehow liable for the idiotic statements by any black personality out there, whether or not he even knows this person and whether or not he''s sought out his support?
I guess according to this idiot logic Reagan therefore is liable and tainted by the fact that white supremacist David Duke was a Reagan supporter.
The fact that they''re pumping this fake Farrakhan "story" while ignoring the fact that McCain has SOUGHT OUT AND WELCOMED the support of well-known anti-Catholic BIGOT John Hagee speaks volumes.
And for the record, this is not a liberal/conservative thing. Conservatives like Ann Althouse and Bill Donohue are already calling upon McCain to distance himself from Hagee. It''s just that the news media loves it''s little McCain darling too much to notice.
His mind is filled with hatred and ill-conceived delusions of siezing power that would enable him to be in a position to inflicting harm and death onto Whites, Jews, Christians and others.
Hatemonger and MAJOR HYPOCRITE Farrakhan should be considered dangerous and should be incarcerated under US and/or state penal/justice codes for INCITEMENT OF HATE.
In addition, and consistent with historical mass murderers, Louis Farrakhan USES RELIGION, FEAR AND HATE AS POLITICAL TOOLS, which appeal to those (his own)unfortunate victims of such a sophisticated and treacherous political ''evildevil.''
To quote Abraham Lincoln:
"Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves."
Yes, L F, if there is a hell, you have more than one foot in it for being rotten to the core, and right in the Land of Lincoln!
and White man-bashing is bankrupt.
He has only contributed divisiveness, destruction, and
He has only contributed divisiveness, destruction, and..." Posted by sociallyjust
Exchange Minister Farrkhan''s name in your post to Pat Robertson, and you would be even more accurate, but apparently to you it is OK because you see Pat as a protector.
As far as "white man bashing" is concerned, it will be bankrupt only when the largest segment of the "white" population no longer practices economic and social apartheid. Please show statistics that show that "whites" no longer practice discrimination against "Blacks", then your "bankruptcy" assertion might have merit.
Now your turn, please show where my words are incorrect, your disagreement means nothing, but it might help understanding to know what part of it you disagree with...
Posted by brianbwb
Still with us, libsrweak?
Hold one sec! You are partially correct.
However, as you can see, those last words and phrases were separate and incomplete. You have seized upon them inappropriately by taking them out of context.
Thanks,
sociallyjust
Agreed! Robertson is another delusional, religious, Christian nutjob.
However, as you can see, those last words and phrases were separate and incomplete. You have seized upon them inappropriately by taking them out of context." Posted by sociallyjust
Point taken, I stand corrected.
I will retract the part about your seeing Robertson as a protector. It is just that I see in the press, of in the blogs, or these comments threads, no where near the vilification of people such as Pat Robertson, who has advocated "cultural war", murder, and other hateful remarks, denouncement only comes softly as an after thought if someone should mention them.
The overall impression in mainstream media is that it is OK for a "White" man to posit such things as Mr. Robertson and others of his ilk, but in the case of Minister Farrakhan, small snippets are usually cut from larger speeches, taken also totally out of their context, then harped upon as if it was the main topic of the man''s speech.
Example, Malaysis''s Prime minister Mahathir Mohammed once said "If a country''s greatness is only measured by how many people it can kill, then Hitler''s Germany could be called a great country". The western press went apeschitt over "Mahathir says Hitler was great". They have done this to Minister Farrakhan frequently.
As far as the last statement, the sentence was posted in an incomplete state, there are no other words after the ones I cut and pasted, so I responded to the words that are in the post.
"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard (in the husband''s) absence what Allah would have them guard.
As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first),
(Next), refuse to share their beds,
(And last) beat them (lightly):
But if they return to obedience, Seek not against them Means (of annoyance):
For Allah is Most High, Great (above you all)"
Of course from the muslim point of view, one cannot even blame Islam for this attitude because the words of the "Holy Quran" are those of Allah himself, so this verse in fact reflects the view of the Omnipotent, Omniscient Supreme Being himself.
Will mankind ever transcend our religio-cultural and other differences? So many **** sapiens remain stifled, backward, constantly misled, lied to, and abused - yes abused if not pressured into murdering and dying for one god or another - by RELIGION AND AGENTS THEREOF.
There seems to be a perpetual market of unfortunate people who are convinced by, and fall for myths, legend, lies and delusional dreams, et al, in the name of one brand-named God or another. Such appeals to them, as it does serve to fill their void of understanding their existence or purpose (falsely so).
But among the worst perpetrators of evil, fraud, murder and other unwholesome ideology, are those so-called Religious leaders, who for their own purposes, continue to use and hold their religious followers in their grip and in the grip of religion.
CONCLUSION:
Duping the people out of their money and even out of their lives in the name of MAN-MADE religion and God, still works!
Religion continues to be the scourge of mankind, and readies the minds for accepting of all sorts of fantasies, messiahs, and hate-mongers such as Farrakhan.
Posted by dumbshun
"White" folks would be the more accurate term. If you know the history of the Black Muslim movement in the US, you will know that traditional Islam and the Black Muslims have very little in common. the US movement was not spread by Semitic Muslims to America in its'' traditional form, it started as a wholly Black American response to the use of a twisted version of Christianity in the US, that justified racial intolerance, discrimination, and even genocide of non "Whites", as "manifest destiny" the notion that it was sanctioned by the "Christian god" to practice such hatred against nonwhites.
Black Islam''s most famous disciple, Malcolm X was killed in part because of government opposition to the struggle for "Black" civil rights, and in part because after a pilgrimage to Mecca, Malcolm X was exposed to the positive aspects of traditional Islam, but the knowledge gained caused him to grow apart from Elijah Muhammad. In short, he made enemies on both sides.
The "Black Muslim" movement in the US was from the start about freeing one''s self from the oppression of racism. Just as the racists considered it their "god-given right" to be what they are, Black Muslims said in response, "If your god says what you do is OK, we have no benefit in following your god".
It always was about resisting racism.
Since Muslim Arabs are also Semitic, is not your comment incorrect, seeing as though there are far more Arab Semites than Hebrew Semites?
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