Feb. 27, 2008

America Can't Ignore Al Qaeda's Resurgence

Weekly Standard: U.S. Security Risked If We Underestimate Terror Group’s Core Leadership

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Four years ago, his words would have represented an almost unquestioned consensus view. In late January, the State Department's counterterrorism coordinator, Dell Dailey, described al Qaeda's top leadership as isolated, saying that they have "much, much less central authority and much, much less capability to reach out."

He is not alone in this assessment. In July 2007, Stratfor's Peter Zeihan argued that while a few thousand people may claim to be al Qaeda members, "the real al Qaeda does not exercise any control over them. . . . The United States is now waging a war against jihadism as a phenomenon, rather than against any specific transnational jihadist movement." The most prominent proponent of this view has been Jason Burke, a reporter for London's Observer and the author of “Al-Qaeda: The True Story of Radical Islam”. By the time that book hit newsstands in 2003, Burke was already arguing that the "nearest thing to 'Al-Qaeda,' as popularly understood," only existed for a five-year period, and the battle of Tora Bora in December 2001 showcased "the final scenes of its destruction." Now, Burke contends, we are "in a 'post-bin Laden' phase of Islamic militancy."

Unfortunately, all these men are wrong - and we will fight the war on terror less effectively if we continue to harbor mistaken assumptions about the al Qaeda network. It is important not to overstate what the terror group's leadership needs to do to remain relevant. Even if the central leadership's role is limited to connecting terrorist nodes - pairing skill sets, financing, and operatives - it can transform terrorist groups from disunited regional problems into cohesive adversaries capable of threatening Western societies. Moreover, the safe havens that al Qaeda's leaders have gained in recent years magnify their lethal capabilities.

Al Qaeda itself has faced internal debates about its future. Abu Musab al-Suri, one of the most prolific jihadist ideologues, in recent years has argued for a decentralized combat model. In contrast, Abu Bakr Naji, another prominent ideologue, calls for a more centralized model.

Suri's 1600-page manifesto, “The Call for Global Islamic Resistance”, argues that the centralized, hierarchical model of jihadism cannot overcome the U.S.'s technologically advanced military, and that regional security cooperation - such as the alliance between Washington and Islamabad - makes a hierarchical structure dangerous. He suggests that decentralization immunizes terror cells from detection through the capture and interrogation of members of other cells. Suri's prescription for decentralization would mean replacing the old training camp model with one in which fighters are trained "in homes and mobile camps."

In contrast, Naji's “The Management of Savagery” argues that once the jihadists hold territory, they should erect a governing apparatus to enforce Islamic law and provide security, food, and medical care. A high command would ensure that efforts are not needlessly duplicated, and would prioritize actions against various groups or nations. Naji's argument has carried the day within al Qaeda's hierarchy. Though there are many reasons for this, perhaps the most significant factor has been external events. As al Qaeda gained new safe havens in Pakistan and beyond, Naji's model seemed most fitting.

External events aside, the preference of al Qaeda's leadership for Naji's approach over Suri's reflects a long-standing inclination for centralization. Osama bin Laden originally formed al Qaeda to keep the vanguard of jihad alive after the Soviet Union's defeat in Afghanistan. West Point's Combating Terrorism Center has translated a number of documents captured during the Afghan and Iraq campaigns that the Department of Defense has declassified from its Harmony Database. These documents depict a clear al Qaeda hierarchy dating back to bin Laden's residence in Sudan between 1992 to 1996.

One document, entitled "Interior Organization," delineates al Qaeda's hierarchical structure, from the commander and ruling council down to organizational committees. It explains that the commander must have been a member of al Qaeda for at least seven years, have a sufficient understanding of Islamic law and jihad, and "have operational experience from jihad." The document also enumerates five separate committees: military, political, administrative and financial, security, and surveillance. Other documents detail members' duties, salaries, and even vacation time. Bachelors qualify for a round-trip ticket home after a year, although they have the option of using it for hajj (religious pilgrimage) instead. An application to train in al Qaeda camps inquires about the applicant's education level, professional experience, medical history, and how much of the Qur'an he has memorized.

Although the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan devastated al Qaeda's safe haven, the group's core leadership survived. A few - such as Saif al-Adl, Saad bin Laden, and Sulaiman Abu Ghaith - fled to Iran, but most relocated to Pakistan. Soon after, al Qaeda's regional nodes took the lead in operations. There were three such regional attacks in October 2002 alone. On October 8, 2002, two Kuwaitis linked to al Qaeda opened fire on U.S. marines, killing one. On October 12, Indonesia's Jemaah Islamiyya killed 202 people in a nightclub bombing in Bali. On October 23, Chechen terrorists seized a Moscow theater packed with 850 people. The March 2003 capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, al Qaeda's principal operations commander and chief architect of the 9/11 attacks, set back the reassertion of al Qaeda's central leadership. Over the next year, regional attacks continued. We had grown so accustomed to attacks led by regional nodes that when the March 11, 2004, commuter train attacks in Madrid and the July 7, 2005, London suicide bombings were executed, they were immediately described as having little connection to al Qaeda's senior leaders.

With the benefit of hindsight, it is clear that in this period analysts and media commentators underestimated the extent to which al Qaeda's central leadership remained able to organize terror attacks. Although a regional node implemented the Madrid plot, al Qaeda's senior leadership formulated the operation. The Center of Mujahideen Services, an internal al Qaeda "think tank," developed the political strategy behind the attack in the book “Iraq al-Jihad”, which concluded that "the Spanish government will not endure two or three attacks." The book thus argued that a coordinated terrorist assault could turn the Spanish public against the government, forcing it to withdraw troops from Iraq.

There were also operational connections between the Madrid cell and the broader al Qaeda network, but the connections were more dramatic for London's 7/7 attacks. British police reports were actually hesitant to link the 7/7 bombers to al Qaeda, describing the terror cell as autonomous and self-actuating. But as the official account of the 7/7 attacks hit the British press, terrorism analysts Dan Darling and Steve Schippert enumerated a number of problems with concluding so early that the broader al Qaeda network was largely irrelevant to the London plot. They noted connections between cell leader Mohammad Sidique Khan and Riduan Isamuddin, mastermind of the Bali bombings. Mohammed Junaid Babar, a Pakistani native living in Queens, New York, who pled guilty in federal court to smuggling military supplies to al Qaeda and assisting in a UK bombing plot, had identified Khan as someone he had met at an al Qaeda camp in Pakistan. Haroon Rashid Aswat, who helped set up an al Qaeda training camp in Oregon, had telephoned the London bombers hours before the attack. After the bombing, Khan and fellow bomber Shehzad Tanweer appeared in a video aired on the Arabic satellite channel al-Jazeera that included praise for the attacks from bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri, as well as Khan's suicide message. It is unlikely that al Qaeda's senior leadership would have this footage were they unconnected to the attack. Underscoring this point, al Jazeera aired a new video from Zawahiri on the first anniversary of the bombings claiming that Khan and Tanweer had visited an al Qaeda camp in Pakistan "seeking martyrdom." Bob Ayers, a security expert at London's Chatham House think tank, commented, "It makes the police look pretty bad. It means the investigation was either wrong, or they identified links but were reluctant to reveal them."

The connections between al Qaeda's senior leadership and the attacks in Madrid and London demonstrate that the group's top command was not as isolated and irrelevant during this period as some suggested. Still, it would gain more strength over time.

After relocating from Afghanistan to Pakistan, al Qaeda's senior leadership set about revamping its operations. They tried twice, in December 2003, to kill Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf, leading him to send troops into Pakistan's tribal areas. Al Qaeda and allied tribes prevailed in the fight.

The 9/11 Commission concluded that to carry out catastrophic acts of terror, terrorist groups require sanctuaries that provide them with "time, space, and ability to perform competent planning and staff work" as well as "opportunities and space to recruit, train, and select operatives with the needed skills and dedication." Al Qaeda gained this in Pakistan with the signing of the South Waziristan accord, and later the North Waziristan accord, which signaled Musharraf's military defeat in the campaign directed at the tribal areas. The accords provided that Pakistan's military would not carry out air or ground strikes in the tribal areas, and included a pledge that Islamabad would disband its human intelligence network there. Three similar accords have since been signed: with the Bajaur region in March 2007, two months later with Swat, and finally with the Mohmand agency in August 2007. With these agreements in place, the United States has seen an influx of al Qaeda operatives and money into the tribal regions. Video taken in a Pakistani training camp last summer shows a graduation ceremony of about 300 recruits for suicide missions, some of whom are allegedly bound for the U.S. and Europe.

Compounding the problem of al Qaeda's Pakistan refuge, there are other areas where the group may gain further safe havens. One is Somalia, where most of the country was conquered by the al Qaeda-linked Islamic Courts Union in 2006. Though Ethiopian military intervention pushed that group back in 2007, the country now faces a potent Iraq-style insurgency spearheaded by extremist groups. And although the success of the U.S. troop surge over the past year has diminished the chances of an al Qaeda safe haven arising in Iraq, in the end that is a question of political will. If the next administration decides to quickly withdraw U.S. troops, that country could host additional safe havens.

Analysts declared al Qaeda’s central leadership defeated before it had been dealt a death blow. Its regional nodes and ambitious newcomers stepped to the fore while the group's senior leadership fought to gain control of territory - thus helping to reinforce the idea that the senior leadership was marginalized and irrelevant. Even at the time, the fallacy of this view should have been apparent: As Peter Bergen noted in a New Republic article about al Qaeda's resurgence, "the existence of Al-Qaeda imitators does not prove the obsolescence of the real thing." Now, as al Qaeda's vitality approaches pre-9/11 levels, many analysts still do not have their eye on the central network.

With a safe haven in Pakistan -- and perhaps soon in other territories - the senior leadership will likely play a greater role in future terror plots, while attempting to conceptualize and carry out an attack that will surpass 9/11. A strong central leadership makes the group more formidable and its attacks more deadly; dismissing the evidence that al Qaeda's leadership has regrouped will ultimately endanger U.S. security.

By Daveed Gartenstein-Ross and Kyle Dabruzzi
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by trillion1 February 27, 2008 1:50 PM PST
We were fighting them in Afganistan and.....oh, yeah bush HAD to attack Iraq.
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by tburzio February 27, 2008 3:03 PM PST
We had to attack Iraq because of Al Queida activity in Saudi Arabia. We had to leave our bases holding down the Iraqi army from invading Kuwait again. We could A) withdraw and leave Kuwait to their fate and give up oil forever B) withdraw to carriers (Russia gave Iran surface to ship missiles that don''t miss, so that''s out), or C) we could move our bases into Iraq. Which one would you choose?
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by imnho February 27, 2008 3:56 PM PST
I agree with the need to continue the war aginist AQL. I just think that the neocon lack the prospective to lead the war on terror. Starting a war with Iraq has to be one of the most idiotic mistakes that a president has ever done. If this is the best that the republicans can do then I am voting democratic.

There is also something very wrong in questioing the patriotism of anyone who disagrees with you. That was a common theme in the run up to the war.
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by Razzl February 27, 2008 4:27 PM PST
Your own endlessly detailed description of their "successes" since 2001 refute the notion that there is any great power brewing underground. Killing a person here or there is hardly the indication of an empowered threat; Los Angeles street gangs have a better output per member and dollar than what''s left of this Islamist organization. The key element that Al Quaeda had was surprise, and now that they''ve shot their bolt they lack all the elements you cite above as critical for their success, especially defined territory. Now that every country in the world knows what to look for they are just a bunch of banditos on the run who will never be able to put together operations like 9/11 again. To persist in overstating the case is the prelude to conservative demands for dictatorial powers and military operations. The American public has fortunately seen through your movement as clearly as it has seen through Bin Laden''s, and will give neither of you the opportunity to carry out your evil again...
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by wogerwabbit February 27, 2008 6:30 PM PST
LOOK OUT! A WOLF!!! heh heh heh Gotcha!
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by hungry1968 February 27, 2008 6:36 PM PST
"America Can''t Ignore Al Qaeda''s Resurgence"

Why not? Bush has been since late 2001.




"Weekly Standard: U.S. Security Risked If We Underestimate Terror Group%u2019s Core Leadership"

Like the administration did in January 2001, March 2001, and July 2001 when the anti-terrorism czar, Richard A. Clarke, warned them all three times of the possibility of terrorist attacks from al Qaeda?
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by hungry1968 February 27, 2008 6:42 PM PST
as i assume you think that al queda is pretty much bounded by the borders of afghanistan...al queda is a religious terrorist network..it does not know borders nor skin color..it is so complex that one can be living right next to you..waiting for that perfect moment to ram a 747 up your arse (figure of speech of course but i am sure you get my meaning).

to deal with al queda is to soften the islam''''s influence on the people of middle east. funny enough, i trully believe that injecting a lot of LIBERALISM in that sh*t hole will cure that..but guess who is al queda''''s number one ally..

Posted by libsrweak at 03:48 PM : Feb 27, 2008




That''s a pretty funny post - you obviously write stand up material!!

Where do you think al Qaeda''s senior leadership was on 9/11? They were in Afghanistan!!

We can also guarantee that they WERE NOT in Iraq!! Saddam Hussein would have NEVER let al Qaeda into Iraq. Unfortunately, Bush turned Iraq into a safe haven for terrorists, so they are there now.

Al Qaeda''s number one ally is George Bush and the rest of the conservatives in this country. They let bin Laden attack America DESPITE all of the warnings regarding pending attacks, they didn''t even bother to start looking for him AFTER he attacked, and they created a safe haven for his ilk in Iraq by removing Saddam Hussein.
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by walt1944-2009 February 27, 2008 6:44 PM PST
As I remember it, it was Osama Bin Laden and Al Qeada which attacked us on 9/11, bringing down the World Trade Center Buildings and killing over 3,000 civilians.

Since then, have we caught Osama Bin Laden? NO! Have we destroyed Al Qeada? NO! Does the Great Emperor Bush intend on catching Osama Bin Laden, even if he knew where he was? In his own words, "I just don''t think about him anymore!"!

Today, the Great Emperor and his neocon Fascist Nazi followers are too busy trying to protect their own "arse" from jail time, than care about catching Bin Laden and totally destroying Al Qeada!

So there you have it!

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!!
sig heil, McCain????

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by quatrops February 27, 2008 7:04 PM PST
McCain continues to compound the failure of Bush''s Middle East policies by attacking Obama''s statement about AlQaeda in Iraq. Obama''s immediate retort was correct: THERE WAS NO AL QAEDA IN IRAQ UNTIL BUSH INVADED. Bush pulled our forces from fighting Al Qaeda and Bin Laden in Afghanistan, leaving that battle to inferior Afghan forces. Bad call, but one not surprising for an incompetent commander-in-chief backed by the neocon consortium of Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle & Co.

McCain argues that we should have sent MORE troops in order to achieve "victory"! WHAT, IN THE NAME OF SANITY, CONSTITUTES "VICTORY" IN A NEVER-SHOULD-HAVE-BEEN "NATION" (THANKS TO THE BRITISH) WITH UNRESOLVED MILLENIUM-LONG TRIBAL CONFLICTS?

Clear evidence of this is the Iraqi parliament''s failure today to achieve progress on one of our 18(?) "benchmarks" for political progress. After how many years they''ve managed 2 out of 18? No wonder McCain suggests "100 years" as a possibility!

The election of John McCain would be disasterous for the United States. All he seems able to understand is "winning" and "victory" - - in a battle that never should have been.
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by jwind11 February 27, 2008 8:12 PM PST
Al Qaeda''''s number one ally is George Bush and the rest of the conservatives in this country. They let bin Laden attack America DESPITE all of the warnings regarding pending attacks, they didn''''t even bother to start looking for him AFTER he attacked, and they created a safe haven for his ilk in Iraq by removing Saddam Hussein.

Posted by hungry1968 at 06:42 PM : Feb 27, 2008

you have already proven many times in posts that you have no clue what you are talking about...go get a job
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by knyghtwolf February 27, 2008 8:55 PM PST
How do you kill an idea? A concept? An entire belief system based on religious doctrine that is as strong to them as christianity is to you? Education means NOTHING to these people, equality, gender issues, interpersonal and intrapersonal human relations mean NOTHING if the belief in death is stronger than the belief in life. Do you actually think any structured religion is responsible for what goes on now? Money and power mean nothing, is that what you think, you are wrong, DEAD wrong, what means more to these people than any amount of common sense, understanding of structured or organized religion has DOMINATED their lives entirely for thousands of years which has been warped into what we fight today....nothing more than an ideology so archaic it reeks of the same ignorance that we believe in as well. This has nothing to do with honor, right or wrong, or which god is biggest and baddest, its about PERCIEVED HUMAN POWER, HUMAN WEALTH, HUMAN GREED, that what you are sending your children to war over, killing your own kind over, NOTHING BUT SUPERFICIAL IDEOLOGIES BASED SOLELY ON LIES AND FEAR.
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by it_oldtimer February 27, 2008 10:00 PM PST
American foreign policy and military activities are driving Al Qaeda''s resurgence. Specifically, Bush''s foreign and military policies.
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by ubrew12 February 28, 2008 12:02 AM PST
Weakly Standard: "America Can''t Ignore Al Qaeda''s Resurgence"

We aren''t ignoring it, why do you think we want America to get out of Iraq??? What we ARE ignoring is the Weakly Standard. That bastion of every romantic supply-side philosophy that brought us our $10 trillion debt should be burned.

"Morning in America?"

try "Mourning in America" you supply-side, screw the poor and kiss-*ss the rich, *ssholes!!!
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by tbweb February 28, 2008 12:14 AM PST
Scare me once, shame on you, scare me twice, shame on me! I recall back in the beginning of the al Qaeda threat it was said if Americans change their way of life, al Qaeda wins! We sure do seem to be making a lot of changes!
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by harp1963 February 28, 2008 12:24 AM PST
Bugging every American''s phone and putting a GPS chip in all Americans that disagree with any Bush/Cheney/Rove policy is the solution to all our security problems. Since abuse of power has never continually happened in our world, we Americans should welcome that we no longer will us the court system to safe guard Americans rights. I mean, who needs a Constitution when we have George Bush as our leader. George would never abuse his authority.

Oh, and anyone who disagrees with bugging every phone in America is an Al Queda terrorist who hates America. Only Patriots would think we should do this.
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by inventagod February 28, 2008 12:56 AM PST

Bu$hCo NeoCons did 9/11 and blamed it all on alQaeda.

Just embrace the truth and move on. It was the precursor to the fake Iraq invasion, and you all bought it, hook, line and sinker.
444 days before the USA investigated the atrocity!
Shame.......
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by incog-nito February 28, 2008 2:16 AM PST
Hmmm... Wonder how AQ got to be resurgent in the first place. Aren''t we supposed to be "winning"?
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by magoo2u1 February 28, 2008 2:34 AM PST
We faced the threat from behind the iron curtain and the bamboo curtain without giving away the constitution.
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by jesterbelle February 28, 2008 5:26 AM PST
Really?Maybe if the puppet hadn''''t wasted our time and resources on the lame duck in Iraq...
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by vet_sk February 28, 2008 5:35 AM PST
Just about everyday we wake up and notice the opinion article listed here at CBS...and you know it is the Weekly Standard. We always have to remember they were some big cheerleaders in getting us into Iraq.
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by knyghtwolf February 28, 2008 6:06 AM PST
Wonder how Olivia, Elliot, and the rest of the Law & Order SVU would handle the Rape and Murder of the United States? Imagine Munch questioning al Qaeda''s top leadership? I think shrubbie & lil dikk have tried to turn this whole thing into a faith-based sitcom soap opera/drama MTV reality based SciFi weekly special, just MY personal opinion is all.
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by mcvet February 28, 2008 7:52 AM PST
Pakistani military operations in the (region) have not fundamentally damaged al Qaeda''s position.

AMAZING! These NEO NAZI''s called anyone who wanted to go after Al Queda and leave Iraq alone a "Surrender Monkey" and now that the REAL Enemy has completely rebuilt and we still bogged down in a stupid Civil War, they come forward and say?? WHO in the world is stupid enough to continue to follow these LOSERS!? They are flat getting the krap kicked out of them, have taken 6 years and a Trillion dollars to do it but some what to just "Stay the Course"? THAT''s INSANE!! Sieg Heil Bush
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by bluestardad February 28, 2008 7:58 AM PST
SPEAKING OF THE 911 COMMISSION, THEY ALSO SAID THAT CONDI RICES ACTIONS WERE INCOMPENT! BUT THIS WAS BURRIED AND NOT MADE PUBLIC!

DONT LET THIS ARTICLE WRITTEN BY DUEL PASSPORT HOLDING ISRAELI AMERICANS IMPACT YOUR DECISION TO THE FACT THAT THEY WANT TO KEEP AMERICA IN THE MIDDLE EAST!

THEY LIKE THE AID MONEY RUNNING THRU ISRAELI HELD BANKS AND COMPANIES!

SO EVERYTIME IT APPEARS THAT AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TO PULL AMERICA OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST THE ROVIAN PRODUCTION STUDIO IN CRAWFORT TEXAS PUTS OUT ANOTHER VIDEO OF SOME ALQAEDA PERSON AND THESE PRO ISRAELI ANTI AMERICAN RAGS START SPEWING THEIR PROPOGANDA!

THROW THE ISRAELI NEOCONS OUT OF AMERICAN POLITICS!

AMERICA STAND UP OR SHUT UP! TAKE BACK YOUR COUNTRY!
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by grumpas February 28, 2008 9:09 AM PST
It would be nice if anyone could believe a word that comes out of these traitor''s mouths!!! But, unfortunately one can''t! Most of us are left to forming our own truth never being able to get an accurate account of what''s going on from the media. Because all they are is a mouth piece for Bush. Bush never fails to call Sunni and Shiite Insurgents Al Quida because it''s boosts his cause. When convenient they are all terrorist''s in his sick little mind. So who knows how involved AQ is in Iraq????? Most American''s are being left to their imaginations.
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by mbcsmith February 28, 2008 9:38 AM PST
LIBS just don''t get it. They bury their heads in the sand and hope it all goes away. Al-queda in Iraq, Sudan, Pakistan and Indonesia are thrilled the LIBS don''t want to recognize them or the threat they pose to the U.S.
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by trillion1 February 28, 2008 11:41 AM PST
America can''t ignore? Try bush can''t ignore. This fool and the GOP did nothing to secure our borders. Have a backlog of thousands of documents and tapes because they won''t hire enought translators. And had to invade Iraq where there were no al qaede taking troops from Afganastan where there were. bush and his sheep are the best thing terrorists could hope for.
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by clestes-2009 February 28, 2008 11:47 AM PST
Al-quida is NEVER, got that you righties, NEVER going to be defeated by US troops! I love ''em, they are the best, but they are not going to win this fight.

Al-quida is fighting for their way of life, their country, their religion. They, rightly I might add, see the US as invaders, occupiers, infidels and a country that wants to dominate them and take their oil, their women, their way of life away.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to win this kind of battle. We are on foreign soil, without justifiable reason for being there. Ah, you say, what about 9-11? Isn''t that justifiable??

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by clestes-2009 February 28, 2008 11:48 AM PST
to continue..

It would have been if that had been the REAL reason we were there. But it was not. When the call went out for an addition 4000 marines to block off the escape routes from Tora Bora, and it was turned down because Cheney decided that Pakistan military could do the job, (he was obviously ignorant of Pakistan''s history or he would have known better), Osama Bin Laden escaped that night.

Right then, it became apparent to all of the middle east and a few Americans that capturing OBL or destroying al-quida was NOT the priority. Had shrub had the sense to override Cheney, send in the 4000 marines and capture of kill OBL and then BACKED OUT. We would have been regarded as heros by Americans, respected by our allies and respected by the other middle east countries.

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by clestes-2009 February 28, 2008 11:48 AM PST
to continue...

Instead, shrub allows himself to be seduced by dreams of military glory (something he had plenty of opportunity to have as a young man in Vietnam, but chose not to) and instead invaded Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with 9-11 and was never a danger to any country.
Because of that single stupid decision, Iran has risen to the height of power, Israel is weaker than ever, the US is weaker than ever, the US economy is tanking, our allies are no longer willing to help out on much of anything and our international reputation is in tatters.

al-quida knows perfectly well that the US military has reached the breaking point and is, in fact, breaking everyday. They have the time and patience to break the US down and that is exactly what they are doing.

The surge strategy was never going to be a success, and many of us fortold and I think we have seen the last of the good days. Iran and Afghanistan are going to get worse this year.
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by clestes-2009 February 28, 2008 12:06 PM PST
OK guys, here is a good one for you.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0227/p99s04-duts.html

Army Chief of staff, Gen Casey says "We need more troops for Iraq and Afghanistan"

Gee, I thought the surge was working?? I thought victory was ours. Isn''t that what fossil McCain said about a month ago??

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by cbs_oliver February 28, 2008 12:25 PM PST
Al Qaeda is a real movement centered in Afganistan and it is also a brand name applied by radical ideologs centered in the United States as a matter of convenience and propaganda to individuals and groups they wish to paint in the colors of a reviled enemy.

Both Al Qaeda in Afganistan and radical ideologs in America have deceit and murder and mayhem on their minds.

We need to hunt down Al Qaeda in Afganistan on the one hand and reject and disempower the radical ideologs in America on the other hand.
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by noloyalisti February 28, 2008 3:36 PM PST
Actually the US state sponsored terrorists (the military) has killed way more people than Al Quada.

We are the main cause of Islamic (and Christian) extremism both here and abroad.

We better wise up and start spreading the word about the GOP terrorists in our midst. That''s who we (and the rest of the world) need to fear.
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by Syndicate February 28, 2008 4:44 PM PST
noloyalisti; nopot sure what you are talking about. I would agree that the military has killed a lot of people through out its entire history. But if you limit the analysis to the current conflict and only to innocent civilians then I have to disagree. Al queda kills Civilians by the hundreds weekly. The US military doesn''t. Bin ladens grievance is against american soldiers standing on "Holy ground". He thinks this gives him the right to terrorize people. They hate us not because of our freedom as bush says but because we stand in the way of a caliphate state stretching from the east atlantic to the west pacific. Anyone who stands in their way is expendable.
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by knyghtwolf February 29, 2008 6:32 AM PST
Other than the daily tripe, drivel, and clap trap that comes from the mental midgets in Washedupington, todate there is still NO PHYSICAL PROOF that al Qaeda had anything to really do with 9/11, and since shrubbie the first has "forgotten" about osama Bin Laden, who or what are we fighting for? Seems to me, the shrub has his head up his or cheney''s rear fighting for air and deep breathing too many noxious vapours.
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by it_oldtimer February 29, 2008 4:18 PM PST
If the US wasn''t involved militarily in the Middle East, nobody would have ever even heard of Al Queda.

We have made them what they are today, and our actions alone are responsible for their growth as a credible cause.
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