BAGHDAD, Feb. 25, 2008

Dozens Of Iraqi Pilgrims Killed In Attacks

Series Of Blasts Targeting Shiite Pilgrims Has Left More Than 60 Dead In Past Two Days

    • Medics wheel a wounded pilgrim in a hospital in Baghdad, Iraq, Sunday Feb. 24, 2008. Three Shiite pilgrims were killed Sunday morning in an attack that wounded as many as 36 others, including two officers who were protecting the travelers. Photo

      Medics wheel a wounded pilgrim in a hospital in Baghdad, Iraq, Sunday Feb. 24, 2008. Three Shiite pilgrims were killed Sunday morning in an attack that wounded as many as 36 others, including two officers who were protecting the travelers.  (AP Photo/Asaad Mouhsin)

    • A Turkish army Black Hawk helicopter flies over an artillery unit and its crew after taking off from a military base in Cukurca in Hakkari province at the Turkey-Iraq border, Sunday, Feb. 24, 2008, Turkish F-16 fighters and helicopters flew into northern Iraq on Sunday as elite commandos shake Kurdish rebels in a major ground operation across the border that has drawn criticism from the U.S.-backed-Iraqi government and Iraqi Kurdish leaders. Photo

      A Turkish army Black Hawk helicopter flies over an artillery unit and its crew after taking off from a military base in Cukurca in Hakkari province at the Turkey-Iraq border, Sunday, Feb. 24, 2008, Turkish F-16 fighters and helicopters flew into northern Iraq on Sunday as elite commandos shake Kurdish rebels in a major ground operation across the border that has drawn criticism from the U.S.-backed-Iraqi government and Iraqi Kurdish leaders.  (AP Photo/Burhan Ozbilici)

    • Medics wheel a wounded pilgrim to a hospital in Baghdad, Iraq, Feb. 24, 2008. Three Shiite pilgrims were killed Sunday morning in an attack that wounded as many as 36 others, including two officers who were protecting the travelers. Another attack south of the city killed another 25 pilgrims headed to Karbala for Arbaeen, which marks the 40th day following the anniversary of the death of Imam Hussein. Photo

      Medics wheel a wounded pilgrim to a hospital in Baghdad, Iraq, Feb. 24, 2008. Three Shiite pilgrims were killed Sunday morning in an attack that wounded as many as 36 others, including two officers who were protecting the travelers. Another attack south of the city killed another 25 pilgrims headed to Karbala for Arbaeen, which marks the 40th day following the anniversary of the death of Imam Hussein.  (AP Photo/Asaad Mouhsin)

    • Women cry over a body of their missing relative whom they have identified at a hospital morgue in Baqouba, capital of Iraq's Diyala province, Sunday Feb. 24, 2008. Photo

      Women cry over a body of their missing relative whom they have identified at a hospital morgue in Baqouba, capital of Iraq's Diyala province, Sunday Feb. 24, 2008.  (AP Photo)

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    A daily diary with scenes of the latest attacks and snapshots from the effort to rebuild a nation.

(CBS/AP)  A roadside bomb killed four Shiite pilgrims and wounded 15 south of Baghdad Monday in at least the third fatal attack on people traveling to one of their sect's most sacred gatherings, officials said.

The death toll rose from 40 to 56 from a suicide bombing Sunday - one of Iraq's deadliest attacks this year.

In eastern Baghdad, another roadside bombing wounded three pilgrims. A second bomb that went off a few minutes later about 70 yards away wounded a traffic policeman riding to the scene on his motorcycle.

The suicide bomber went after travelers enjoying tea and refreshments Sunday in a tent near Iskandariyah, 30 miles south of Baghdad. The blast killed at least 56 people and wounded 68, according to police and Babil health department director Dr. Mahmoud Abdul-Rida, driving the total number of pilgrims to 63 in two days.

Extremists had attacked another group of pilgrims with guns and grenades hours earlier in the predominantly Sunni Baghdad neighborhood of Dora, killing three and wounding 49, Iraqi military spokesman Maj. Gen. Qassim Atta said. He said the extremists fired from a mosque at the pilgrims and that a counterattack killed five of them, while two were captured.

U.S. and Iraqi forces have increased the number of checkpoints and imposed car bans and other measures in major Shiite cities to protect the worshippers traveling to Karbala, the burial site of Imam Hussein, the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, who died in a seventh-century battle nearby and became one of Shiite Islam's most revered figures. Ceremonies will culminate in Karbala Wednesday to commemorate the end of the 40-day mourning period following the anniversary of his death

Major Shiite events have frequently been targeted in the past by suspected Sunni insurgents led by al Qaeda in Iraq in their drive to stoke sectarian violence.

Recent commemorations - including the Ashoura festival in mid-January to mark Imam Hussein's death - have passed without major bloodshed amid an overall decline in violence across Iraq.

But the pilgrims who walk for days to reach the shrine of Hussein are vulnerable despite the increased security.

Suicide attacks and car bombings are frequently blamed on al Qaeda in Iraq, but U.S. Col. Tom James, commander of the 4th Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division, which is responsible for the area around Sunday's attack, said it was too early to say who was behind that bombing.

Sunni leaders denounced the bombing, with hard-line politician Adnan al-Dulaimi's bloc blaming it on foreigners "aiming to create sectarian strife and to destabilize the country."

Meanwhile, Turkish troops fired dozens of salvos of artillery shells across the Iraqi border on Monday, a day after the military confirmed that a Turkish helicopter crashed in Iraq and eight military personnel were killed during a cross-border ground operation against Kurdish rebels.

The sound of the artillery fire from a distance could be heard in this border town of Cukurca. Several military bases that support the incursion into Iraq are on its outskirts, and artillery units have been positioned on hilltops overlooking Iraq.

Turkey began the ground operation Thursday to target autonomy-seeking Kurdish rebels who attack Turkey from hideouts on the Iraqi side of the border.

The guerrillas said Sunday they shot down a Turkish military helicopter near the Turkish-Iraqi border.

Turkey's military said technicians were inspecting the wreck to determine why the helicopter crashed near the border. It was not clear if any of the reported casualties were on board.

The military did not specify on its Web site whether the eight fatalities were troops or pro-government village guards, local residents who are familiar with the terrain and accompany the military on operations against the rebels. NTV said three village guards had been slain, but did not say when or where they died.

Turkey's military said Monday it had killed 41 more separatist Kurdish rebels in clashes in northern Iraq, raising the guerrilla death toll in its cross-border operation to 153.

The incursion is the first confirmed Turkish military ground operation in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein in 2003.

The rebels of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, are fighting for autonomy in predominantly Kurdish southeastern Turkey and have carried out attacks on Turkish targets from bases in the semiautonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq. The conflict started in 1984 and has claimed as many as 40,000 lives.

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by skyk-2009 February 25, 2008 7:05 AM PST
Ask a Vietnam Vet what''s going to happen next!! We''ve been trying to tell America for some time now that you can NOT just walk into a country and at the point of a gun start TELLING them how to govern themselves. You refused to listen and now there is a price to pay... a very heavy price. I don''t know which is worse, seeing all the body bags coming home in my time or watching the men coming home in this war. Sure they are alive... IN NAME ONLY!!
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by cyberdjs4 February 25, 2008 7:25 AM PST
Skyk,

This is why we can''t elect another war-monger.

Clearly, the surge is not working. It''s just an excuse to keep our troops in harm''s way.

Bush and the Republican Party have dug a huge grave but the rest of us will have to lie in it.
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 7:43 AM PST
Skyk,

This is why we can''''t elect another war-monger.

Clearly, the surge is not working. It''''s just an excuse to keep our troops in harm''''s way.

Bush and the Republican Party have dug a huge grave but the rest of us will have to lie in it.


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Posted by cyberDJs4 at 07:25 AM : Feb 25, 2008
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Well like the brother says, we tried to tell you folks! What in the world made those fascist think they could do this is beyond me but anyone who knows anything about Southern Nazi''s know''s they can not, will not, admit they are wrong. They are superior and, even in the face of factual proof that they are not, they will continue to act as though they are. Sieg Heil Bush
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by cfin5 February 25, 2008 8:03 AM PST
This is why it will never pay to expect any kind of peace with these people religiously. Because if your not the right kind of Muslim,......KABLOOOOEEYY!!! They are just like their father Ishmael, a wild man whose hand would always be against his brothers and his brothers against his.
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by skyk-2009 February 25, 2008 8:49 AM PST
"Pilgrim''''s Progress"? Don''''t worry, Bamamobile may be on its way to "Unconditional Surrendsr"! and take us to ''''Fairy-Land''''


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Posted by dumbshun at 08:37 AM : Feb 25, 2008
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You know as a combat veteran I find people like you about as disgusting as any humans on planet earth. These fascist, and they are fascist, who run our Country LIED to us over and over, starting a war that had NOTHING to do with the attack on us what so ever. The People who attacked us have completely rebuilt and are living in Pakistan. Now someone comes along and say this is insane...fighting a civil war in Iraq while the enemy is fat and happy in another country, which makes complete sense. What do YOU pathetic losers do? You say the man who wants to REALLY go after the enemy, the man who actually wants to bring the people who attacked us to justice, wants to cut an run! What do you people have for brains? Mush??
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by skyk-2009 February 25, 2008 8:51 AM PST
This is why it will never pay to expect any kind of peace with these people religiously. Because if your not the right kind of Muslim,......KABLOOOOEEYY!!! They are just like their father Ishmael, a wild man whose hand would always be against his brothers and his brothers against his.


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Posted by cfin5 at 08:03 AM : Feb 25, 2008
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This war between these religions has been going on now for 2000 years and has NOTHING to do with our nation and it''s goals here. WE need to focus on those who attacked us and stay out of OTHER peoples religion and religious wars. THAT is what our CONSTITUTION tells us to do.
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by jersupporter February 25, 2008 8:52 AM PST
Why is it bush and betrayus never mention how peaceful it is in Iraq anymore???????? Posted by rharrin1
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Until you have served your country for over 25 years, attained the rank of four-star general, I would suggest you seriously take a look inward before name calling one of the most honorable men I have ever met. General David Petraeus has served this nation above and beyond the honor you display. Your political wingnut thoughts do not mean ***. Get a life.
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 9:03 AM PST
nUntil you have served your country for over 25 years, attained the rank of four-star general, I would suggest you seriously take a look inward before name calling one of the most honorable men I have ever met. General David Petraeus has served this nation above and beyond the honor you display. Your political wingnut thoughts do not mean ***. Get a life.


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Posted by JERSupporter at 08:52 AM : Feb 25, 2008
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When you support a man who LIED to the American People a total of 935 times, started a War based on those LIES that killed nearly 4000 of our troops, all the while allowing the REAL enemy to find a safe haven in ANOTHER Country... until YOU can stop being a fascist you should NOT throw mud at ANY American. Now get that hood and sheet out... let the fuhrer hear ya... you want him to know you bootlickers are still out here don''t you??? Ready??? SIEG HEIL BUSH!! SIEG HEIL MEIN FUHRER!! Good little Nazi.
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by notblue February 25, 2008 9:06 AM PST
Skyk, all knowing war veteran, please explain to all us mush for brains civilians how abandoning Iraq will make The American and Iraqi peoples lives safer. What do you tell the ALL VOLLUNTEER army now on the ground, who by the way believes in this effort? That is was a good effort but from the comfort of my living room I believe your effort, despite the casulaties and your belief in it, is wrong and I hate Bush so much that now we must lose, and we must go home! Wait a minute, that sounds like Barack Obama. Are you really Barack?
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by jersupporter February 25, 2008 9:12 AM PST
When you support a man who LIED to the American People a total of 935 times, started a War based on those LIES that killed nearly 4000 of our troops, all the while allowing the REAL enemy to find a safe haven in ANOTHER Country... until YOU can stop being a fascist you should NOT throw mud at ANY American. Now get that hood and sheet out... let the fuhrer hear ya... you want him to know you bootlickers are still out here don''''t you??? Ready??? SIEG HEIL BUSH!! SIEG HEIL MEIN FUHRER!! Good little Nazi. Posted by MCVet
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Are saying this reference General Petraeus? Just want to clarify?
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by ladyjaneg February 25, 2008 9:19 AM PST
I haven''t been around for a bit, and I just anted to say hiiiii!!! :D I hope everyone is enjoying their start to the week!
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by gunownerdan February 25, 2008 9:50 AM PST
Since Muslims kill so many Muslims, there isn''t a human on earth who is safe from these twisted religious nuts.
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by irishbitch12 February 25, 2008 10:00 AM PST
notblue
The military does what it is ordered to do. 95% of these brave young men and women are there for each other because they will not abandon each other. As far as being commited to this cause try and talk to some iraqi war vets and you will be very surprised by the responses you get from them.

Very proud mom of a US Army Specialist now in bagdad.
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by singingrick February 25, 2008 10:10 AM PST



More Bu$h success!



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by johnlarlee February 25, 2008 10:31 AM PST
Let''s call this what it is. No longer are they "extremists" but simply murderers. In my books that is punishable by death, and unless repented of, punishable by the "Second Death", not Life Eternal. John
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by demslie February 25, 2008 11:14 AM PST
psy_war Sure is convinced by his own superiority that America is bad and Al Qaeda is good. Isn''t it amazing that every time the terrorists commit genocide, The Democrats jump to their defense by blaming America First. The rants we here by so called intellectuals (people who are so smart they have the right to call others stupid), are exactly the words stated by IRAN, Al Qaeda and Democrats alike. They all hate America. And this is the new Change for America that the Democraps are promising us?
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by irishbitch12 February 25, 2008 11:22 AM PST
demslie
I do not or ever have seen a democrat blame The USA for the genocide in iraq. we put the blame squarely where it belongs and that is on bush, cheney, rumsfeld and rice. They are certainly not the USA!
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 11:23 AM PST
psy_war Sure is convinced by his own superiority that America is bad and Al Qaeda is good. Isn''''t it amazing that every time the terrorists commit genocide, The Democrats jump to their defense by blaming America First. The rants we here by so called intellectuals (people who are so smart they have the right to call others stupid), are exactly the words stated by IRAN, Al Qaeda and Democrats alike. They all hate America. And this is the new Change for America that the Democraps are promising us?


Posted by demslie at 11:14 AM : Feb 25, 2008
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Thats NOT what the man said you pathetic NAZI! How many lies do we the people have to endure from you freaks! YOU are flat getting your brains beat out in this "War on Terror" and anyone who has the nerve to TELL you so, you go of on with this TRASH! YOU freaks are NOT superior and ANY fool can see you are LOSING this thing. 7 YEARS and we''re still being told, no scared into letting our OWN Government SPY on us or we''re going to be attacked??? Just WHAT part of LOSING do you freaks NOT understand?
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 11:25 AM PST
Since Muslims kill so many Muslims, there isn''''t a human on earth who is safe from these twisted religious nuts.


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Posted by gunownerdan at 09:50 AM : Feb 25, 2008
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Okay?! Could I make a suggestion. This come''s from someone who went up against the Klan... YOU are going to DIE with that attitude Sparky. Now I know you Nazi''s aren''t used to fighting to win but YOU can not be predictable and win... WE know what you fools are going to do BEFORE you do it, YOU think the enemy doesn''t know? YOU provide MORE terrorist for the fight than any human on the planet with this attitude. Sieg Heil Bush
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 11:29 AM PST
The military does what it is ordered to do. 95% of these brave young men and women are there for each other because they will not abandon each other. As far as being commited to this cause try and talk to some iraqi war vets and you will be very surprised by the responses you get from them.

Very proud mom of a US Army Specialist now in bagdad.



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Posted by irishbitch12 at 10:00 AM : Feb 25, 2008
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Yes and THEY, not some corporate interest, are our MOST valuable asset. Right now IF we were invaded we could NOT repel that invader. That''s how badly this whole thing is being handled. When you have your leader telling you, nearly 7 years after the attack on you, that he HAS to spy on you or you face an attack, I hardly think we can blame our troops. It only took FDR 4 years to defeat the Axis Powers. We can''t even claim that Iraq is secure. Sieg Heil Bush
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 11:31 AM PST
Let''''s call this what it is. No longer are they "extremists" but simply murderers. In my books that is punishable by death, and unless repented of, punishable by the "Second Death", not Life Eternal. John


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Posted by johnlarlee at 10:31 AM : Feb 25, 2008
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So what do you propose swastika breath. You have them at gun point and they OBVIOUSLY are co operating so what do you do now? YOU do know the REAL enemy, the guy who attacked us... he''s not in this country? You aren''t that big a bootlicker are you?
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 11:33 AM PST
Isn''''t it amazing that every time the terrorists commit genocide, The Democrats jump to their defense by blaming America First. The rants we here by so called intellectuals (people who are so smart they have the right to call others stupid), are exactly the words stated by IRAN, Al Qaeda and Democrats alike. They all hate America. And this is the new Change for America that the Democraps are promising us?


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Posted by demslie at 11:14 AM : Feb 25, 2008
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That is a LIE and you sir are a LIAR!! The position of MOST on this subject has NOT change thru ALL the different missions for Iraq. There has been ONE consistent through all this. ONE side screamed, begged and did just about everything possible to keep this chest pounding MORON from getting us into mess. Bush has LIED to the PEOPLE of this Country and he has IGNORED the Will of the PEOPLE of this Country... this isn''t about Democrat or Republican. HE was TOLD by the People to get out of there and get back into the fight! Sieg Heil Bush
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by nwihoosier February 25, 2008 11:34 AM PST
Peace and Love
McVet, comparing WWII to Iraq is silly and you know or should know it. If we employed ''all-out'' measures in Iraq, types like you would burst an artery.
Peace and Love
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by beehive21-2009 February 25, 2008 11:56 AM PST
muslims are a Blood thirsty group of lowlife, dirtbags.
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by vmcneal2 February 25, 2008 12:14 PM PST
These people have been fighting each other for 500 years which is why we have no business being there in the first place. Let''s stop beating a dead horse, we tried, it didn''t work, now let''s get the hell outa Iraq before more American lives are lost.
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by February 25, 2008 12:24 PM PST
the surge is a success
the surge is a success
the surge is a success
the surge is a success
the surge is a success...
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by j-whitman February 25, 2008 12:31 PM PST
demslie,,,,, Let''s go to with you "American Hating America" crowd ------ You Bush Lovers are the real America Haters wanting more of the same just for your Pro-Life agenda.
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by ajaxtheleast February 25, 2008 12:33 PM PST
And now a WHEEL CHAIR suicide bomber !

BECOME A MARINE ! . . .BE ALL THAT YOU CAN BE ! . . .

In this case, a feces tracker downer and picker upper
or, sponger upper, depending.
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by joyous88 February 25, 2008 12:39 PM PST
the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff,

called petraus an *** kisser, its true and he is;

in any case;

thank god, jesus, and the evangelicals the surge is working;

mission acomplished

arn''t we all proud americans for ''saving'' iraq
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by notblue February 25, 2008 12:55 PM PST
McVet, the one lie you tell on a continuous basis is, "ONE side screamed, begged and did just about everything possible to keep this chest pounding moron from getting us into mess" Now that sir is the lie. The VAST majority of both parties allowed it to happen. It wasn''t until the slog got tough and the American people lost the will to support the effort did your beloved Dems lose their respectuive memories. Of course hindsite genious''s like yourself have terribly short memeories.
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by irishbitch12 February 25, 2008 1:15 PM PST
McVet
You are absolutely correct our Soldiers are our most valuable asset and this administration is decimating them. They are brave and honorable men and women who are being treated like *** and used by bush and his gang.They are only pawns being used by bush for money and profits. I am proud of my son, this is his second tour and he has given his all for God and country. His first child will be born in April and he won''t be here. How much more can these men and women sacrifice? What have any bush supporters sacrificed for bush''s war, not a *** thing that is for sure.
Time to end this *** and take care of America first.
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by ajaxtheleast February 25, 2008 1:28 PM PST
If the surge was a failure we''d have to cancel troop
drawdowns and stay in Iraq.

But with the surge a "success" we''re going to . . .
. .CANCEL? troop drawdowns and STAY? . . where?

Makes sense to me!
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by jn122736 February 25, 2008 1:44 PM PST
Let''''s call this what it is. No longer are they "extremists" but simply murderers. In my books that is punishable by death, and unless repented of, punishable by the "Second Death", not Life Eternal. John
Posted by johnlarlee at 10:31 AM : Feb 25, 2008
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johnlarlee; how do you propose that we execute these suicide bombers (even if we could scrape up all the scattered parts)?

For some reason, many people just can%u2019t fathom the fact that these suicide bombers are not afraid to die, (hence suicide bomber).

As for a second death or after life, it depends on whose god you are referring to.
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by prinzowhales February 25, 2008 2:17 PM PST
The Washington Regime under Bush alone has been responsible for the murder of 1 million Iraqis and the creation of 4 million refugees...and its dim-witted, amoral followers are at a loss as to why "they hate us"...OF COURSE THEY HATE US!! We are beneath contempt! This kind of carnage and destruction in the pursuance of a war based on nothing but lies?...

Iraqis want us gone! Do you blame them?--I don''t! No one with a shred of decency or humanity does not blame them!

Troops home now! Down with the Washington Regime and the Demopublicans-- the arse-licking dogs of Wall Street and the City!
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by jersupporter February 25, 2008 2:49 PM PST
I am 68 years old, never made 4 star but I do have common sense and I served my country and still am that is why I have spoken out.
Your general is a yes man, the generals that dared to disagree with the idiot in charge were all fired.
I tell it the way I see it never been a yes man and never will be. Posted by rharrin1
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Like I stated earlier - political WINGNUTS. Keep spinning that and the more you do - the more you come across as a NUT. Just like stating all the Vietnam Vets were smoking dope baby killers. LOL.
How sad??? Talk is cheap and even more so for the misinformed.
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by speakinup February 25, 2008 2:55 PM PST
Prinzowhales - so now you''ve graduated from boot-licking to arse-licking.




J - com''on guy, "You Bush Lovers are the real America Haters"

Can you be a little more descriminating on your comments. I suspect you are upset at theis person, but believe it or not, Not all "Bush lovers" are real America Haters. Direct your comment at this person, not all of us that just happen to have a different political slant.



joyous88 - he has to be one of the most effective Generals there are. Arse-kissing or not in the Chairman''s OPINION.

Frankly, anyone that makes that kind of public statement doesn''t deserve to be chairman anyway.
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by jersupporter February 25, 2008 3:09 PM PST
the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, called petraus an *** kisser, its true and he is; in any case; thank god, jesus, and the evangelicals the surge is working; mission acomplished - arn''''t we all proud americans for ''''saving'''' iraq Posted by joyous88
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Really - I never heard that - can you show me. I believe you are a little confused or just throwing mis - information out there. Again, ignorance is bliss.
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 3:10 PM PST
Like I stated earlier - political WINGNUTS. Keep spinning that and the more you do - the more you come across as a NUT. Just like stating all the Vietnam Vets were smoking dope baby killers. LOL.
How sad??? Talk is cheap and even more so for the misinformed.


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Posted by JERSupporter at 02:49 PM : Feb 25, 2008
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Fascist like this loser are NOT going to fix anything folks. He''s not smart enough to get out the door without help. Vietnam Veterans have tried over and over to tell you what is happening and going to happen. This loser can''t point to ONE thing we''ve told you that has NOT happened. But he just keeps on with the Reich Propaganda, LIE after LIE after LIE. IF you can''t figure out that after over 6 years and over 2 Trillion Dollars, we can''t even claim a secure country and all the while the enemy, in another country, has rebuilt to the strenght he was before the attack, is LOSING... there''s no hope. We need to get some people in charge who UNDERSTAND Religious Extremist, the NAZI''s ARE Religious Extremist and they want to die as bad as the other side do. Sieg Heil Bush
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 3:14 PM PST
McVet, the one lie you tell on a continuous basis is, "ONE side screamed, begged and did just about everything possible to keep this chest pounding moron from getting us into mess" Now that sir is the lie. The VAST majority of both parties allowed it to happen. It wasn''''t until the slog got tough and the American people lost the will to support the effort did your beloved Dems lose their respectuive memories. Of course hindsite genious''''s like yourself have terribly short memeories.


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Posted by notblue at 12:55 PM : Feb 25, 2008
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Did I say anything about a POLITICAL PARTY you pathetic Bootlicker!! You fascist swallow lie after lie after lie but never do you ever admit that there was those of us out here Screaming that this was STUPID!! We were here because you low life creatures were calling us traitors and worse. It''s not our fault that that IDIOT lied to everyone 935 times in total. Now I''ve gone over them, EVERY last one of them and they WERE LIES. Find me ONE that wasn''t a LIE and if you can''t then YOU should hate that Pathetic piece of human trash who KILLED all those people as much as I do!! Sieg Heil Bush
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by speakinup February 25, 2008 3:16 PM PST
JERSupporter - I believe joyous88 to be stuck in Ren & Stempy mode.
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 3:17 PM PST
johnlarlee; how do you propose that we execute these suicide bombers (even if we could scrape up all the scattered parts)?

For some reason, many people just can%u2019t fathom the fact that these suicide bombers are not afraid to die, (hence suicide bomber).

As for a second death or after life, it depends on whose god you are referring to.



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Posted by jn122736 at 01:44 PM : Feb 25, 2008
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Look you can''t treat a Terrorist like a Warrior, that is his glory. You must treat them like common criminals. When the Klan was put to rest in this nation the last time we didn''t go to war with them, we sent law enforcement in under federal law, arrested the jerks, tried them in open court and sent a message to all of them. There is NO glory in going to Jail. There is no glory in being hunted down as a common criminal. Dying in combat against our military, that is a glory they live for. Sieg Heil Bush
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 3:19 PM PST
JERSupporter - I believe joyous88 to be stuck in Ren & Stempy mode.


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Posted by speakinup at 03:16 PM : Feb 25, 2008
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ROFLMAO This from the HEAD of the Class in childish remarks!! ROFLMAO Sieg Heil Bush!!
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by jersupporter February 25, 2008 3:27 PM PST
ROFLMAO This from the HEAD of the Class in childish remarks!! ROFLMAO Sieg Heil Bush!! Posted by MCVet
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Off the meds again. Or perhaps on them again, therefore you are Rolling on the Floor. Just watched American Gangster , now I am responding to American Waste. Smoke another joint and cut your hair hippie. Sick of playing with this loser.
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by skyk-2009 February 25, 2008 4:01 PM PST
Off the meds again. Or perhaps on them again, therefore you are Rolling on the Floor. Just watched American Gangster , now I am responding to American Waste. Smoke another joint and cut your hair hippie. Sick of playing with this loser.


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Posted by JERSupporter at 03:27 PM : Feb 25, 2008
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You know he''s right don''t you? You are a fascist in every sense of the word. This a Disabled Vet who honestly cares about this nation. He like I are veterans of another Civil War and have great knowledge in that area. Now you don''t have to be super intelligent to figure out we are flat out losing this thing, after all the time and money we''ve put into it and no solution in sight. He''s upset at the Lies and who wouldn''t be... lying to kill Americans should NEVER be accepted regardless of party.
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by j-whitman February 25, 2008 4:02 PM PST
JERSupporter,,,, Don''t cut your hair, it provides nuetriants & oxygen to your brain.
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by mcvet February 25, 2008 4:04 PM PST
You know he''''s right don''''t you? You are a fascist in every sense of the word. This a Disabled Vet who honestly cares about this nation. He like I are veterans of another Civil War and have great knowledge in that area. Now you don''''t have to be super intelligent to figure out we are flat out losing this thing, after all the time and money we''''ve put into it and no solution in sight. He''''s upset at the Lies and who wouldn''''t be... lying to kill Americans should NEVER be accepted regardless of party.


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Posted by skyk at 04:01 PM : Feb 25, 2008
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Ouch! That thud all of you heard just now was ONE fascist freak getting body slamed. Way to go bro! Semper Fi!!
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by ramos937 February 25, 2008 4:11 PM PST
Turkey has invaded Iraq; Maliki has left the country perhaps forever; the Iraq war dead exceeds 50 since 1/01/2008. Iran''s President is an honored guest of the Iraq government. The list goes on and on.

Can someone please tell me again that the surge is working and that we are making progress in Iraq?
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by j-whitman February 25, 2008 4:15 PM PST
ramos937,,,, No, in actuallity the "Surge" is a total failure,, the only thing it''s doing now is providing minimal security --

--- You have to look at the conditions in Iraq.. This is a good article on Basra where the conditions are considered a potential model for self rule.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/world/middleeast/23basra.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp&oref=slogin
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by speakinup February 25, 2008 4:15 PM PST
It IS somewhat understandable why you feel they way you do about Iraq since you were disabled in Vietnam. I understand why you''d feel the same about Iraq.

I''m not saying you are correct, in my opinion you are wrong about the reasons we are there - how we got there, that is. But, I just understand more where you are coming from.

skyk - so I would like to say your opinion means no more than anyone else''s, just because you are a disabled vet.


And it certainly doesn''t mean your buddy should get a free ride on the Seig Heil BS.

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by j-whitman February 25, 2008 4:20 PM PST
speakinup,,,, I think it''s going to be quite awhile before we all know for sure why we are in Iraq -- This administration has fought & delayed every attempt from finding out.
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