Feb. 19, 2008

Toshiba Quits; Sony's Blu-ray Wins DVD War

Japanese Electronics Maker Toshiba Will No Longer Make HD DVD Players Or Recorders

  • Video Sony Wins Hi-Def DVD War

    Sony's Blu-ray disk format won a major market battle after Toshiba announced it will stop making its rival HD-DVD players. Daniel Sieberg reports.

  • Models pose with Toshiba's Photo

    Models pose with Toshiba's "HD-XA1" HD DVD player in Tokyo in this Friday, March 31, 2006 file photo. Toshiba will pull the plug on its HD DVD next-generation video format, the Japanese electronics maker said Tuesday, Feb. 19, 2008.  (AP Photo/Katsumi Kasahara)

(CBS/AP)  Toshiba said Tuesday it will no longer develop, make or market HD DVD players and recorders, handing a victory to rival Blu-ray disc technology in the format battle for next-generation video.

"We concluded that a swift decision would be best," Toshiba President Atsutoshi Nishida told reporters at his company's Tokyo office.

The move would make Blu-ray - backed by Sony Corp., Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., which makes Panasonic brand products, and five major Hollywood movie studios - the winner in the battle over high-definition DVD formatting that began several years ago.

Nishida said last month's decision by Warner Bros. Entertainment to release movie discs only in the Blu-ray format made the move inevitable, although his company had confidence in HD DVD as a technology.

"That had tremendous impact," he said. "If we had continued, that would have created problems for consumers, and we simply had no chance to win."

Warner joined Sony Pictures, Walt Disney Co. and News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox in that move.

Nishida tried to assure the estimated million people in the world who already bought HD DVD machines by promising that the company will provide continued product support for HD DVD.

Nishida said it was still uncertain what will happen with the Hollywood studios that signed to produce HD DVD movies, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation.

Toshiba's pulling the plug on the technology is expected to reduce the number of new high-definition movies that people will be able to watch on HD DVD machines.

Toshiba Corp. said shipments of HD DVD machines to retailers will be reduced and will stop by end of March.

Both HD DVD and Blu-ray deliver crisp, clear high-definition pictures and sound, which are more detailed and vivid than existing video technology. They are incompatible with each other, and neither plays on older DVD players. But both formats play on high-definition TVs.

HD DVD was touted as being cheaper because it was more similar to previous video technology, while Blu-ray boasted bigger recording capacity.

Only one video format has been expected to emerge as the victor, much like VHS trumped Sony's Betamax in the video format battle of the 1980s.

Sales in Blu-ray gadgets are likely to pick up as consumers had held off in investing in the latest recorders and players because they didn't know which format would emerge dominant.

Despite being a possible blow to Toshiba's pride, the exit would likely be good for business. Goldman Sachs has said such a move would improve Toshiba's profitability between 40 billion yen ($370 million) and 50 billion yen ($463 million) a year.

Toshiba's stock slipped 0.6 percent Tuesday to 824 yen after jumping 5.7 percent Monday amid reports that a decision was imminent. Sony shares climbed 2.2 percent to 5,010 yen after rising 1 percent Monday.

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The trend became decisive I think this year... When Warner made its decision, it was basically over.

Kazuharu Miura,
Daiwa Institute of Research
The reasons behind Blu-ray's triumph over HD DVD are complex, as marketing, management maneuvers and other factors are believed to have played into the shift to Blu-ray's favor that became more decisive during the critical holiday shopping season.

Once the balance starts tilting in favor of one in a format battle, then the domination tends to grow and become final, said Kazuharu Miura, an analyst at Daiwa Institute of Research in Tokyo.

"The trend became decisive I think this year," he said. "When Warner made its decision, it was basically over."

With movie studios increasingly lining up behind Blu-ray, the pick among retailers for the format they wanted to stock also became Blu-ray.

Friday's decision by Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the largest U.S. retailer, to sell only Blu-ray DVDs and hardware appeared to deal a final blow to the Toshiba format. Just five days earlier, Netflix Inc. said it will cease carrying rentals in HD DVD.

Several major American retailers had already made similar decisions, including Target Corp. and Blockbuster Inc.

The HD DVD is now the Highly Dead DVD.

Toshiba Corp., creator of the HD DVD, dropped out of the battle Tuesday over the next generation of movie-disc technology and conceded to Sony's rival Blu-ray format.

It was the biggest battle between two video formats since Betamax lost out to VHS in the 1980s. Some 35 million Americans now own a flat screen TV increasing demand for high-definition content, reports CBS News sci-tech correspondent Daniel Sieberg

"It's a bit of a knockout, said PC Magazine editor in chief Lance Ulanoff. Ulanoff told Sieberg that the 1.5 million people who bet on Toshiba's format are stuck.

"They knew what the risk was going in. No one has said over the last two years there was any clear winner,'' said Ulanoff.

In the long run, the end of the latest format war is expected to be good for consumers, who will no longer have to agonize over which technology to choose for high-definition movies, and won't have to go to the trouble and expense of buying two players.

But in the short term, Toshiba's defeat not only leaves 1 million HD DVD customers worldwide with dead-end hardware but also ends a rivalry that kept down prices for players and pushed the Blu-ray group to match the features available on HD DVD players.

Analysts say people interested in getting a Blu-ray player would do well to wait. For one thing, it will take 12 to 18 months for Blu-ray players to become as cheap and full-featured as HD DVD players, which have been selling for just over $100 (euro68), according to ABI Research.

Many people who did buy HD DVD players did so recently. In fact, Toshiba said the holiday season was its best ever. Stephen Brown, a Huntington Beach, California, technology manager who bought an HD DVD player in November, doesn't regret it, even though his wife now calls him "Betamax Brown."

"Just the fact that I could go out and spend $119 or $120 and have a really nice player, that was a no-brainer at that point," he said Tuesday.

Brown said it he will probably look at getting a Blu-ray player in a year or so, when the price comes down to around $150 (euro102) from about $400 (euro271) now and various features become standard.

Both HD DVD and Blu-ray discs deliver crisp, clear pictures and sound, a perfect match for the high-definition TVs sets Americans have been rushing to buy for the past two years.

But HD DVD players are also able to connect to the Internet to download trailers and other bonus content for discs, and can have a director or actor provide commentary in a small window while the movie plays.

The studios that supported HD DVD took advantage of these features in innovative if not always very useful ways: Viewers of Universal Studios' "Evan Almighty" HD DVD could shop for ecologically friendly items like recycled toilet paper through their player.

Blu-ray players capable of showing picture-in-picture - a feature called "Bonus View" - have only just started to appear. So-called BD-Live players, which can take advantage of Internet content, are expected on the market this spring.

The fact that the PlayStation 3 console included a Blu-ray drive is one reason the format eventually won out. Sony Corp. sold 10.5 million PS3 machines since its 2006 debut.

But the real death knell for HD DVD was the last month's decision by Warner Bros. Entertainment to drop the format and release only Blu-ray discs and DVDs.

"That had tremendous impact," Toshiba President Atsutoshi Nishida said Tuesday in Tokyo. "If we had continued, that would have created problems for consumers, and we simply had no chance to win."

Warner joined Sony Pictures, Walt Disney Co. and News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox in shunning the HD DVD, leaving Universal and Paramount Studios in the HD DVD camp. Universal on Tuesday said it would "focus" on releasing Blu-ray discs, but did not say if it would cease putting out HD DVDs.

After Warner's announcement, Toshiba was initially defiant. It cut player prices and kept touting the format's benefits. But the bad news kept rolling in. Last week, Netflix Inc. said it would cease carrying rentals in HD DVD. On Friday, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. said it would stop selling HD DVD players and discs.

Even with the HD DVD out of its way, Blu-ray isn't likely to be the success that the DVD was, given the many viewing options consumers have.

The big advantage of the DVD over broadcast and cable has been that the viewer can choose when to watch what. But that advantage has been eroded by video-on-demand from cable companies, many of which are now in high definition. Comcast Corp., the country's largest cable company, plans to offer more than 1,000 high-def movies this year.

Just last week, Apple Inc. upgraded its Apple TV set-top device to enable downloads of high-definition rental movies from the Internet. Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 game console also shows downloaded HD rentals.

"Blu-ray Disc has passed its first real test by beating HD-DVD," wrote David Mercer, an analyst at Strategy Analytics in London. "But a much bigger challenge now lies ahead if BD is to become as successful as DVD, and content owners, retailers and manufacturers must now demonstrate that they can work together to promote BD effectively."


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by nwihoosier February 19, 2008 6:28 AM PST
Peace and Love
I''m surprised that one of the dopes that posts silly messages hasn''t already blamed Bush for this, too!
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by fibonacci_ February 19, 2008 6:37 AM PST
That was a silly message.
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by olebd February 19, 2008 7:44 AM PST
I would think Toshiba should offer more to consumers who invested in their HD technology with a rebate check or something to convert to Blue Ray. Makes me glad I''m behind the technology curve.
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by rf35 February 19, 2008 9:53 AM PST
I''m glad I decided to wait. I almost wasted about $400 on a dual-format player. I figured Blu-ray would eventually win, though...the name sounds cooler.

P.S. Toshiba lost because Bush prefers Disney movies and they already signed with Blu-ray. Hpaay now, nwihoosier?
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by zykracosmos February 19, 2008 10:04 AM PST
I should have known that when I picked up a Toshiba HD-DVD player at Sam''s Club for a "steal" of $100 a few weeks ago, that something was in the air. I wanted it so that I could finally play the HD version of BBC''s amazing Planet Earth series, which I had been given as a present a few months ago. The person buying it for me mistakenly thought that since I had an HD TV, I could also view the HD DVDs. It may be that the only voice I ever hear come out of my HD DVD player is David Attenborough''s soothing old British dialect. I have no use for the two free disks that came with the player. Some movies aren''t worth putting out in HD or BlueRay either one. Hat''s off to consumers who had the wisdom to wait. It pays to do your homework with electronics products. Next up.. LCD puts an end to plasma TVs? Toshiba says it is going to taper off delivery of HD players to retailers. They should be prosecuted for sending any more out there at all if they are knowingly killing the market for the only DVDs that could be played in their machines.
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by thgdriver February 19, 2008 10:28 AM PST
Do The hundreds of movies I own on DVD play on the new Blu-ray machines or do I have to hold on to The VHS DVD duel players I have?
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by cpaide February 19, 2008 10:44 AM PST
"Wide-screen movies saved the film industry in the 1950''s, Maxivision 48 could save it in the 21st Century."
Posted by Benst1

Maxivision saving the film industry? I think you mean IMAX.
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by thgdriver February 19, 2008 10:48 AM PST
I purchased on LCD 26 inch 1080I HD TV during the holidays because the Guest room TV took a shiit. I put the bedroom TV over in the guest room and the new one went to my bedroom. I don''t see that big a difference in picture quality.

Point is all my TV''s get excellent pictures. Two of them are 36 inch jobs and cost plenty. I can''t see spending the money on new TV''s when the old work just fine. I intend to buy three converters for my 36 inches and the guest room.
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by thgdriver February 19, 2008 10:54 AM PST
Benst1

Thanks for the information I appreciate it. The DVD VCR combos I have did not cost very much so I will probably upgrade the one in the bedroom to Blu-Ray to match the new HD TV. Thanks again, Driver.
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by jumkey February 19, 2008 11:10 AM PST
ZykraCosmos: That''s a drag - I had no idea they were discounting HD-DVD players so drastically, given that the last time I looked Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players were going for about $500.

I was going to suggest to others here that the cheapest way to get into HD DVD''s was to buy a PS3 which has a built in Blu-Ray drive, but given Toshiba''s announcement maybe the players will come down in cost? Or is the format/technology owned exclusively by Sony?

Finally though, if you have the right kind of TV (HDMI 1080p LCD and not plasma which you are correct is dead technology) the picture on Blu-Ray is nothing short of amazing. Stunning actually. And some of the best stuff is the old Technicolor remasters. The Searchers (the 50''s John Ford/John Wayne western) is especially good,
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by shanev137 February 19, 2008 1:42 PM PST
Time to buy Sony stock.
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by antoniof123 February 19, 2008 2:06 PM PST
I still refuse to buy Sony products any more because of the root kit issue.

I moved and had my PC a week before my TV so I watched some movies and listed to some CD''s on my PC. Bit mistake I was one of the lucky ones that had a root kit installed on my PC.

Called Sony and they didn''t have a fix, it took serval days and lots of question on boards to remove it. Buy Sony if you want but in the end they will stick it to you.

Sad part I used to only buy Sony.
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by denn034 February 19, 2008 3:57 PM PST
All of these technological changes are outrunning people''s ability to keep abreast of such. That can only hurt the music and entertainment industries in the end. Slow down people!
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by brianbwb-2009 February 20, 2008 12:33 AM PST
Now that Blu-ray is destined to become a de facto monopoly, expect Sony type rootkits, and other privacy intrusion software to be included in all but blank media, and expect the prices to stay relatively high, as there is now no competition to drive prices lower.
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by rf35 February 20, 2008 2:37 PM PST
I wonder if Toshiba will buy a license to make Blu Ray players now.

Does anyone know if playing a standard DVD on a Blu Ray machine will upconvert the DVD?
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by sjw1253 February 20, 2008 5:35 PM PST
Those who worry that the prices will remain high have to understand that there is a law of supply & demand and the other more important issue = "opportunity cost"...

What are people willing to pay for the technology. Apparantly, Sony is winning the war with the technology but will need to adjust their prices for both equipment (if the equipment is too expensive - only persons in a specific income bracket will be able to purchase it).

Additionally, the cost of the medium (i.e. movies) needs to be affordable for the everyday person. I particular - as we are in a recession and the effects will be felt even harder once the recession is over - fewer people will have disposable income for which they make the great opportunity cost decisions - pay for entertainment on one hand/ eat on the other...

Economics is a very complex driven phenomenon.

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