JFK Smoking Gun Or B-Movie Proposal?

Odd Transcript In A Box Of Oswald Memorabilia Reads Like A Conspiracy Theorist's Dream

(AP)  A curious transcript purportedly about President John F. Kennedy's assassination has been discovered among boxes of memorabilia that were long forgotten in an old safe at the Dallas County district attorney's office.

While the transcript reads like a conspiracy theorist's dream - Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby plotting to kill Kennedy - the DA's top assistant said it's likely material for a proposed movie.

Other items found in an old safe on the 10th floor of the county courthouse include letters to and from former DA Henry Wade, the now-dead prosecutor in the Ruby trial, The Dallas Morning News reported in Sunday's editions. Ruby shot and killed Kennedy assassin Oswald two days after the president's death.

There are also letters to Ruby, records from his trial, a gun holster and clothing that probably belonged to Ruby and Oswald, said District Attorney Craig Watkins, who planned to discuss the find at a news conference Monday.

Much of the attention is bound to focus on the transcript purporting that Ruby and Oswald met at Ruby's nightclub on Oct. 4, 1963, less than two months before the Nov. 22 assassination. In it, they talked of killing the president because the Mafia wanted to "get rid of" his brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy.

Says Oswald in the transcript, "I can still do it, all I need is my rifle and a tall building; but it will take time, maybe six months to find the right place; but I'll have to have some money to live on while I do the planning."

Gary Mack, curator of the Sixth Floor Museum near where the president was shot, hasn't seen the transcript but doubts it's real. It is well-documented that Oswald was in Irving the evening of Oct. 4, at a home where his wife was staying, Mack said.

"The fact that it's sitting in Henry Wade's file, and he didn't do anything, indicates he thought it wasn't worth anything," Mack said. "He probably kept it because it was funny. It's hilarious. It's like a bad B movie."

Terri Moore, Watkins' top assistant, said she believes the latest transcript is part of a movie Wade was working on with producers. The former prosecutor wrote about the proposed movie, "Countdown in Dallas," in letters found in the safe.

"It's not real. Crooks don't talk like that," Moore said. "If that transcript is true, then history is changed because Oswald and Ruby were talking about assassinating the president."

The transcript resembles one published in a report by the Warren Commission, which investigated Kennedy's assassination and determined that Oswald was the lone gunman. The FBI determined that conversation between Oswald and Ruby about killing the governor was definitely fake.

The account in the commission report was "re-created" for authorities by a now-deceased Dallas attorney who claimed he recognized Oswald in a newspaper photo as the man he saw talking to Ruby.

It's unknown whether the boxes Watkins and others found in the courthouse about a year ago have information previously undisclosed to the public or the Warren Commission.

The search began after Watkins was told the gun used to kill Oswald was somewhere in the courthouse. They didn't find the gun, which Mack said is privately owned. The boxes probably sat in the safe since being moved when the courthouse opened in 1989.

The items are still being processed and eventually will be donated to an entity that can authenticate them, preserve them and make them available to the public, Watkins said.

"It's interesting, and it's not ours," Watkins said. "It's the public's."

[tbweb]

Americans just want to know once and for all who killed a U.S. President in broad daylight and seemingly got away with it. Maybe Americans don''t want to know, maybe Americans can''t handle the answer, maybe the answer is too ugly!

[Pocko]

JFK commited suicide. He had a vision that a black was going to be president one day and he couldn''t live with that on his concience. Oswalds shot hit a lampost on the grassy knoll.

[talkingham]

Truth_be_lied you''ve posted this bogus Obama rant in every forum on this site and it has nothing to do with this thread. you totally eat sheet u homophobe- I think you''re gay.

[lucasnico]

okay fcs25..........where was he? the answer would be Dallas, Texas

[sgtrds]

BTW--Elvis is ALIVE: www.elvislives.net

Posted by easeup at 03:57 PM : Feb 18, 2008

That''s right and it was him and Janis Joplin that drove a Cadillac into the side of the Pentagon, while Jimi Hendrix was flying a USAF Fighter that looked like to passenger liner into the side of the world trade center as a signal to Tiny Tim to blow up the buildings with charges that had been placed there by Santa Claus the previous Christmas, then all of them went back in time and shot JFK.

[wvinson11]

This is also verified by the City Of Dallas JFK archive testimony see links below:
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[easeup-2009]

"No easup, I lived through all this stuff and wonder why some of it happened. Certainly the internet when used wisely is at least a good a source of news than sold out "news networks" and anchors who are more concerned about how they look than what they report. The only investigative journalism good or bad being done these days is by people who are nto afraid to lose their high paying network jobs."

uhhhh.....it''s about CREDIBILITY! IF you are really an aspiring journalist you would KNOW that you have to have credible sources. You don''t think the Left would LOVE to prove that these conspiracy fantasies are true? Hell, the king of nutjobs Kucinich himself will admit he saw little green men but he has never supported these idiotic theories--WHY? Because he knows that would be the end of his career.

You are either the most gullible person alive or you need serious psychological help if you think for a minute that the ENTIRE media is all together in some sort of conspiracy to cover this up.

Log off & go check yourself into a facility.

BTW--Elvis is ALIVE: www.elvislives.net

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[talkingham]

No easup, I lived through all this stuff and wonder why some of it happened. Certainly the internet when used wisely is at least a good a source of news than sold out "news networks" and anchors who are more concerned about how they look than what they report. The only investigative journalism good or bad being done these days is by people who are nto afraid to lose their high paying network jobs.

U on the other are perfectly welcome to believe the lies reported each night, paid for by drug companies, big oil and any number of multi-national corporations. I have a degree in broadcast journalism and know just how worthless such a degree is in this era of bought and paid for "news." A large part of which is controlled by an Aussie with a pro-neocon agenda that has little or nothing to do with the truth.

If you believe a bunch of Saudi hi-jackers were the only people involved with 911 then you are welcome to be that stupid. Do you really think our air defenses are so bad that a jetliner piloted by an amateur wcould fly into DC towards the Pentagon undetected - perhaps the most secure above ground building in the US?

Fact is, when first responders got to the Pentagon on 911 the hole in the building was only 16-feet wide. Burning and collapses enlarged the hole in a matter of minutes. Kinda small for a jet liner whose engines were never recovered after the impact. Show me the engines ease-up and I''ll shut-up.

[martin9p2]

The conspiracy theory about Lady Di wasn''t interesting enough so this garbage was given to us by CBS. Thanks.

[fredcs25]

The only problem with this transcript is that Oswald was not in the town mentioned at the time of this meeting.He was at home in another state with his wife.

[tryhonesty]

Wake up folks,
This is the same OLD story. Present a set of lies often enough and it will become truth. Again, any moron with half a brain can figure out this was a professional triangular hit not made from any character in this article. The truth is locked away in the national archives, duh!, something to hide by our federal government. This is the same old ***. Open the archives, oh thats right, the real power players (killers) are still alive (along with their children) and would be revealed. Simple. Lets not complicate this story with any more nonsense "this and that found", BS.

[sgtrds]

I admit it. I did it! I was only 7 but I was the one on the grassy knoll (I was the one with the Davy Crockett coonskin hat on). Good thing I had my Daisy Red Rider 100 shot range model air rifle (with the compass in the stock).

[three-o-six]

I am not much of a conspiracy advocate, but if you have ever hunted and you watch the film of Kenney getting shot you know for sure that Oswald did not shoot him. In the film Kennedy%u2019s head snaps back and the back of his head flies off behind him. You can see the direction of the impact clearly. Who ever shot Kennedy was in front of him, not behind him. Watch it for yourself, and see if you don%u2019t come to the same conclusion.

[j-whitman]

Everyone who thinks Bush did it, rais your hand,

Good, it''s a majority

[j-whitman]

gunnerv1,,,, Yep, Bush did it --- They couldn''t find anothe Monica ------- JFK got his own girls

[easeup-2009]

"Obviously we''''ll never know. If you can''''t arrest a Van der Sloot for admitting to watch a young woman die and dumping the body, and have the "confession" on videotape, I doubt anyone will ever be brought to justice for just one of the many poltiical killings and/or shooting in the 60''''s and 70s and 2000''''s. Robert Kennedy, JFK, MLK, Hoffa, 911 twin towers, flight 111, and Pentagon 911 employees and others have paid the ultimate price for our freedom to be lied to by a CIA and a government that is as corrupt as any on the planet I''''m sad to say."

Let me guess--you saw proof of all this on an internet site? LOL!!!!!!!!!!

[gunnerv1]

Bush did it!

[talkingham]

How is it so well documented where Oswald was on Oct 4? They found all this out in the two days before they had him killed?

And the gun that killed Oswald is not found but instead they put a bogus movie script in the vault- Judas Priest, give me a break!

Sounds like all this stuff has been hidden in plain sight. Hoffa might well have been involved with JFK''s death since he "disappeared too." It''s widely thought Nixon pardoned him so he could be made to disappear - and why would Nixon otherwise pardon Hoffa anyway? Nixon''s ties to the Mafia via BB Rebozo are also well documented, but tricky *** was a good republican so we don''t hear about any of this anymore, just Clinton''s love affairs, a perfect opiate for the press and the people. Who wants to know who shot someone when you can dawdle on who doodled someone?

Obviously we''ll never know. If you can''t arrest a Van der Sloot for admitting to watch a young woman die and dumping the body, and have the "confession" on videotape, I doubt anyone will ever be brought to justice for just one of the many poltiical killings and/or shooting in the 60''s and 70s and 2000''s. Robert Kennedy, JFK, MLK, Hoffa, 911 twin towers, flight 111, and Pentagon 911 employees and others have paid the ultimate price for our freedom to be lied to by a CIA and a government that is as corrupt as any on the planet I''m sad to say.

[huanaco]

MY THEORY IS THAT USA KNEW THE RUSSIANS WERE BEHIND ALL THIS, THE SEVERAL TRIPS THAT OSWALD TOOK TO THE RUSSIA MEXICO EMBASSY ARE TRUE , THEREFORE THERE IS THE SMOKING GUN. AFTER THE KILLING USA HAD TWO ROADS : DECLARE WAR ON RUSSIA OR IGNORE AND TAKE THE EASIER ROAD, TO FIND A CULPRIT THAT NEVER EXISTED IN HIS OWN LAND BESIDES OSWALD.

[antizion]

Kennedy was killed by the Israelis because he opposed their illegal nuclear weapons program. The fact is, the Israelis have the only illegal nuclear program on Earth.

Their is evidence that George HW Bush was involved and perhaps ran the operation. This story and the "evidence" was probably planted. Seems most evidence the feds turn up these days, they planted themselves.