Feb. 14, 2008
Obama's Vague Promise Of Change
National Review Online: Democrat Is Inspiring, But How He Would Govern Remains Unknown
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In these uncertain times, the relatively new Sen. Barack Obama has become America’s “change” candidate. But how different in real terms is the Obama candidacy?
Obama’s father was from Kenya, and he grew up for a time in Indonesia. But, otherwise, Obama was raised by his white mother and grandparents in a middle-class suburb in Hawaii - a unique upbringing in the 1970s but hardly so in today’s multiracial and itinerant America.
At private school, he was sometimes known as Barry. Perhaps had he taken the name of his maternal family who raised him - Dunham - a Sen. Barry Dunham of mixed ancestry from Illinois would now not be causing quite the same sensation.
Indeed, a Sen. Dunham may have been viewed as a minority candidate to the same limited degree that a similar staid-sounding Gov. Bill Richardson resonated as a Mexican American.
True, many blacks may have voted for Obama because he’s a gifted charismatic role model and in belief that his agenda will offer welcome change. But he apparently has far less appeal to other minority groups as a grassroots alternative. Both Hispanics and Asians have voted against him in large numbers.
Take away the exotic name and Sen. Obama’s early background is not all that different from millions in an increasingly racially mixed and diverse America, in which a woman, a Latino, an Italian-American, a Mormon, a popular TV actor, and a 71-year-old all ran for president this year. Three of these candidates also survived cancer.
Obama’s later Ivy-League education and political career resemble those of many elites in both parties. While Sen. and Mrs. Obama lecture, in populist fashion, about the burdens of school loans, they are really talking about paying off their two Harvard Law School tuitions, degrees that are not typical of struggling students, but instead government-guaranteed investments in the good life - as their 2006 joint income of nearly a million dollars attests.
Of course, from the little we know about his vague proposals, Obama certainly seems to offer a different choice from the current administration: quick withdrawal from Iraq, formal talks with Iran, and essentially a worldwide conference with the Muslim world to iron out our differences.
At home, Obama sometimes advocates repealing the Bush tax cuts and raising some revenue through higher taxes - all to pay for vague Great Society government programs for the middle class, students, and the poor. But few could list many key differences between Obama’s platform and Hillary Clinton’s views.
Where did we get the notion that Obama is the avatar of change? The answer is again not just that he is part black. (A Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, for example, would go nowhere.) Or that he has new policies or ideas. In fact, to the extent Obama has laid out any details of a program, they aren’t any more novel than those of his rivals.
Instead, he is the change candidate for two simple reasons. First, Obama is fresh, without the albatross of a long political career around his neck. We know little about him - and too much about the others. The more he sticks with generalities, the less he offends particular constituents - without having to make tough choices that day after day might keep offending 49 percent of the electorate.
Second, Obama is a stylish, inspirational speaker - a sort of elegant Adlai Stevenson of the 1950s and the hip, young Gary Hart of the 1980s all in one. He is wonderful in repartee, smart, full of good grace - and without the shrillness of Clinton, or the occasional temper of John McCain.
If anything, Obama resembles the handsome, well-spoken Robert Redford character Bill McKay, of the 1972 movie The Candidate, but updated for the new millennium: brighter, more charismatic, and multicultural.
In these divisive times of war and economic anxiety, a tired public apparently wants someone hip, upbeat, reassuring in talk, and fresh in spirit, but not too specific in prescribing any painful remedies for our various maladies.
As it turns out, there are not all that many handsome, young natural speakers, with a hint of mystery and the promise of racial harmony - at least none who speak inspirationally, respond to criticism with humor, and are genuinely nice guys.
At least in that cosmetic sense, Obama really is a rarity - a pleasant change in other words from what we’re used to seeing and hearing, past and present.
If Obama can translate all that into true leadership and effective policy that would be real change. If not, we’ll be asking the same question posed by Robert Redford’s character Bill McKay to end The Candidate: “What do we do now?”
By Victor Davis Hanson
Reprinted with permission from National Review Online.




Sen. Obama isn''t even Jimmy Carter 2.0, he''s the Beta version. Lacking Pres. Carter''s comendable military & gubernatorial experience, Sen. Obama is even more naive and unprepared. He''s not another JFK, he''s another Carter, who will blame everything on America & Americans.
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Posted by yw459 at 02:06 PM : Feb 14, 2008
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Because it''s NAZI Propoganda... Oh excuse me, the Modern title is Neocon isn''t it! But I say if it quacks like a duck it''s a duck huh? Let me guess YOU are willing to buy the "Well Cut your taxes and balance the budget" lie AGAIN??? ROFLMAO I''ve got a dog smarter than you!! ROFLMAO Honest! She wouldn''t buy that tired old line AGAIN!! ROFLMAO Sieg Heil Bush!!
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Posted by afsc30574 at 03:41 PM : Feb 14, 2008
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LOL What are you saying? We should "Stay the Course"? ROFLMAO Sparky THAT isn''t working at all... Haven''t you noticed??? ROFLMAO Sieg Heil Y''all.
They have nothing to offer except death and taxes and so they need to bring anyone with character and vision down.
This is an embarrassing group of people in the leadership now. We can do better!
Thanks, Mr. Positive!
Au contraire! Experts in government, governmental policy, etc. are a dime a dozen in Washington. As for an underlying political philosophy, that''s not hard either. He''s made his fairly clear, and you folks do it all the time, my fellow posters!
I maintain that what this country needs MOST is a good orator (particularly following the uninspiring, mangled prose and facial smirk of GWB). We NEED a leader who can speak to us regularly and articulately, inform us of what''s going on. We NEED someone who can inspire us with his rhetoric and oratory. We NEED someone who can make us feel good about ourselves and our country.
The spirit of divisivness, secrecy, and partisanship that has been the hallmark of the Bush administrations has soured this country on itself. We need a VOICE that can inspire us with a spirit of cooperation and compromise, one that can be honest about our problems but upbeat about potential solutions. This country NEEDS someone who can speak like FDR, JFK, and yes, even Ronald Reagan.
The guy has only been in Washington for a very short time. Does he know the right people? Can he forge the right agreements accross party lines? What makes you think that a young black inexperienced politician can hold down the power of a host of special interest? Where does all that power and know-how come from? Talk? I think not and when the Democratic Party is pushed aside again they will be labeled the dumass party for the next 12 years and thereafter.
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Posted by Rayuk at 06:48 PM : Feb 14, 2008
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You know freaks like you said the same thing about a young Senator from Mass in 1960. Sometimes greatness is there and fools can not see it. 4 more years of the Fascist and you won''t have to worry..there won''t be a nation to be a bigot in. Sieg Heil Bush!!
It is almost embarrassing that NRO would have the nerve to actually spend time writing such bunk. As if they have an opinion that means anything.
What does NRO suggest, having the old codger McCain take us back to the Cold War. I know what conservative stands for but that is beyond the pale.
For 7 years we''ve had experienced politicians in office, and where are we now? The economy tanked. A FARCE of a war. Health care unaffordable.
And a large part of the reason for this is that our president, though experienced, was not intelligent. HE WAS INCOMPETENT. And the VP was "experienced". But he was a ghoulish fascist who loves war and torture.
It doesen''t take a rocket scientist/neurosurgeon to be president. It takes a person with, perhaps, above average intelligence, one who can communicate unusually well, and one who is committed to our constitution and to carrying out the will of the electorate.
For many of us, Obama has those qualifications. And, for many of us, you KNOW where you can put those "experienced" Washington insiders. And if not there, they can go sit in a retired Cheney''s den with him . . . cigar in hand, counting his Halliburton millions, and with his usual smirk, laughing about what fools he made of the American people.
Never heard of leadership? Role models?
THE ECONOMY - speech at GM plant yesterday
1. http://wclo.com/podcasts/wclo-news-features/2008/feb/13/obama-janesville/
THE WAR - speeches
1. Shockingly prophetic in 2002
http://www.digg.com/politics/Full_text_of_Barack_Obama_s_2002_Speech_Against_the_Iraq_War
Once the war started, he did vote to support the troops but repudiated the war
2. De-escalation speech 2007
http://obama.senate.gov/speech/070130-floor_statement_8/
LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE (over 1000 bills in 11 years %u2013 8 in IL legislature)
Library of Congress website http://thomas.loc.gov
Note Ethics reform/transparency bills targeted at special interests and lobbyists
Certainly, it would be naive to think that a president walks into the White House, waves a magic wand, and thus makes all his wishes come true.
It will be the same for any president, Democrat or Republican.
I see Obama, as having the audacity to hope, the audacity to mention the things that are wrong and what needs to be done in order to reunite this country. To bring back the esteem this nation used to have and to lift it to the heights it deserves. To try to abolish the destructive partisan politics that only divides and harms our country.
Sounds good to me.
We have HAD IT with the "unitary executive", the excessive secrecy, signing statements, and the extra-constitutional disregard of laws passed by congress. We''ve HAD IT with an executive branch that refuses to do what the people want. We''ve HAD IT with torture, with GROSS INCOMPETENCE, with an inarticulate word-fumbler who is unable to give an inspirational speech because he has NO IDEA who HE is, let alone who WE are!
Thank God there is HOPE on the horizen. That I can wake up in the morning feeling GOOD about America again. So keep those CHANGE-POSITIVE posts coming, folks. Every one of them helps in the rebuilding of America, and in throwing the travesties of 7 years under the neocons on the garbage heap of history.
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(CNN) -- NAACP Chairman Julian Bond''s decision to weigh in on the Democratic Party''s conundrum when it comes to seating delegates from Michigan and Florida has created a firestorm of discussion on blogs and talk shows, and frankly, I''m still unclear as to what his intent was.
Gee Roland, I think his intent is to see that all the people of the USA have their votes counted.. Just because your a very vocal supporter of Obama, doesn''t mean that all Black''s have to follow your lead.. Some have supported Hillary Clinton all along, and will help put her in the White House.. The DNC must seat both States, or pay to hold another Election.
That said.
OBAMA WILL BEAT CLINTON AND McCAIN BECAUSE NO EDUCATED PERSON WANTS TO ATTACK HIM.
"Only once in a very long time does politics become more than politics, that is something more than partisan struggle, vote bartering, or arena of ambition...
... on rare occasion, old arrangements and conventional wisdom come unstuck. This happens in periods of rapid if not revolutionary change. We find ourselves now in one of those periods. The forces of globalization, information, eroding sovereignties, and transformation of war ensure that traditional leaders and conventional politics can only muddle through at best and fail badly at worst."
"Therefore, the good of man must be the end of the science of politics."
"There will be no end to the troubles of states, or of humanity itself, till philosophers become kings in this world, or till those we now call kings and rulers really and truly become philosophers, and political power and philosophy thus come into the same hands."
So let it be that our YOUTH sees HOPE in UNIVERSAL TRUTH:
"Love, or we shall perish."
"LIVE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD."
GO! OBAMA!
As she is all too willing to point out, she has been part of the Democratic "experienced establishment" in Washington far longer than Obama.
Now, look at the "approval ratings" of the Democratic-controlled congress (since 2006). Those ratings are MULTIPLE PERCENTAGE POINTS BELOW the historically low ratings of Bush!
American voters aren''t stupid. They KNOW that congress has had a difficult time because of actual or threatened vetoes by Bush. But they still answer "NO" on approval.
So here it is for you, ladies and gents, in full caps: THE AMERICAN VOTERS WANT A PRESIDENT WITH THE LEAST WASHINGTON ESTABLISHMENT EXPERIENCE!
Get it?
THIS PRO ISRAELI RAG HATES HIM!
AMERICA STAND UP OR SHUT UP!
The cost of the Iraq war is but a a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of all the expanded social programs you would like to see. There wasn''t universal healthcare before the war, there were still poor people before the war, etc., so don''t blame Iraq for what you perceive as a lack of sufficient government programs.
There simply are not enough rich people to pay the bills for all these welfare-state programs. And those greedy corporations are the ones providing tax-paying jobs - not the government. For everyone who only grouses about how evil Bush is, how the poor are getting screwed etc., but never propose economically viable solutions, I can only suspect you secretly hate capitalism itself and would prefer to see it replaced with a socialist or communist government.
That''s right! This is his modus operandi. He NEVER takes a stance. He doesn''t have a stance! He just wants to be the first black in the White House! That''s all he''s got. When it comes to moving and shaking the legislative process for the good of the people he is clueless!
Keep up the good work Hillary! Fight like a tiger! We need competence in the White House.
You''ve got a real smart dog there. Is her name Sparky? She doesn''t believe in balancing the budget, eh? Is she speaking to you right now?
All the candidates make promises that they may sincerely want to make but which, when the reality of taking office happens, may not be as easy to implement as first promised, but that does not diminish the hope for favorable changes. Like any other president in history, one of the very first things they do is surround themselves with capable, select advisers and cabinet members (except Bush) who most match their beliefs and hopes for the future.
Certainly, it would be naive to think that a president walks into the White House, waves a magic wand, and thus makes all his wishes come true.
It will be the same for whomever becomes president, Democrat or Republican.
I see Obama, as having the audacity to hope, the audacity to mention the things that are wrong and what needs to be done in order to reunite this country. To bring back the esteem this nation used to have and to lift it to the heights it deserves. To try to mediate the destructive partisan politics that only divides and harms our country.
Sounds good to me.
Obama: lover of wisdom
McCain: lover of honor
Clinton: lover of gain
Obama appears to have greater appeal to highly educated Americans. WHY?
Highly educated people are those who have acquired imparting of knowledge, positive judgment and well-developed WISDOM - consisting of ideals and principles that govern all actions and decisions to maximize the LONG-TERM COMMON GOOD, and so are the highly educated Americans.
It is for LONG-TERM COMMON GOOD we EDUCATE our YOUTH, and so be it that the highly educated seek PURPOSE in LONG-TERM COMMON GOOD. This is called COMMON SENSE.
So be it that the highly educated seek WISDOM and its TRUTH in their choice of a president!
If you seek not WISDOM in a leader, what then, do you seek? If you hold not TRUTH, FAITHFULNESS, and SINCERITY as your first principles, what then, do you hold?
If you are A PARENT, AN EDUCATOR, OR A COMMUNITY LEADER, and if you seek not such LONG-TERM COMMON GOOD, you care not about the children, family, community, society, country, or THE COMMON WORLD.
How can we let our CHILDREN follow such self-gratifying Clintons??
"LIVE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD."
This is what the highly educated are going for.
When Bill Clinton trash his presidency with scandal, putting self-gratification ahead of family, society, country, and the world, he was preaching self-love, narcissism, and self-seeking. That is setting the worst example any leader could to harm a world of youths and their tomorrows.
Does Bill care about anyone?
When Hillary dismissed the scandal as if it were no big deal, She was protecting HER candidacy and both of their images. Were she to be concern about today''s youth and their (moral) education, she would have dismissed Bill instead.
Where is her (Hillary) sincerity?
Bill and Hillary, if only you would hold children close to your hearts, you should have no room for lies, wrongdoing, and self-gratification. And only then would you see wisdom, compassion, and courage!
Bill and Hillary, you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. Our nation''s youth is smarter than you think. By voting WISDOM, COMPASSION, and COURAGE in OBAMA, they have thus dismissed the self-seeking-dead-end-street of such cheap, narcissistic, and calculating Clintons.
So be it that the nation''s youth sees HOPE and UNIVERSAL TRUTH in OBAMA:
"Love each other or perish."
"From caring comes courage."
"LIVE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD."
When Bill Clinton trash his presidency with scandal, putting self-gratification ahead of family, society, country, and the world, he was preaching self-love, narcissism, and self-seeking. That is setting the worst example any leader could to harm a world of youths and their tomorrows.
Does Bill care about anyone?
When Hillary dismissed the scandal as if it were no big deal, She was protecting HER candidacy and both of their images. Were she to be concern about today''s youth and their (moral) education, she would have dismissed Bill instead.
Where is her (Hillary) sincerity?
Bill and Hillary, if only you would hold children close to your hearts, you should have no room for lies, wrongdoing, and self-gratification. And only then would you see wisdom, compassion, and courage!
Bill and Hillary, you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. Our nation''s youth is smarter than you think. By voting WISDOM, COMPASSION, and COURAGE in OBAMA, they have thus dismissed the self-seeking-dead-end-street of such cheap, narcissistic, and calculating Clintons.
So be it that the nation''s youth sees HOPE and UNIVERSAL TRUTH in OBAMA:
"Love each other or perish."
"From caring comes courage."
"LIVE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD."
The Dems have a choice between a skilled, experienced political infighter (Hillary), and a somewhat new and idealistic visionary (Obama).
I think Hillary is too contentious to break away from "partisan politics as usual". She''s not a unifying personality.
Obama is a charismatic natural leader. He paints ideas with a broad brush, and then energizes people to believe in them, and work hard to achieve them.
Obama reminds me of JFK, who''s "Ask not..." style bridged partisan boundaries, and whose accomplishments were not heralded as Democratic victories, but as national accomplishments that all Americans could take great pride in.
Obama has that same innate motivational skill, and the vision to give it meaningful direction. This is a natural gift; it can''t be taught. You''re either born with it, or you''re not, and he''s got it.
We don''t need a skilled infighter right now, we need an inspired visionary to unite us in a common purpose and lead us out of this Dark Age of Divisiveness.
I don''t want the most "experienced" candidate; that just leads to continuing gridlock. I want one who''s not afraid to think big, and to think "outside the box". One who dares to have great ideals, and who trusts in the greatness of the American people to recognize his vision and make it a reality that we can all be proud of.
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by knyghtwolf
February 17, 2008 9:55 AM PST
- Bush: Keep Abstinence in AIDS Program. This is his answer to improving his image, more American tax dollars on foreign aid, while our health care here suffers beyond reproach.
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