Analysis: Obama Wave Crashes Through

Vaughn Ververs Says Big Wins In Maryland And Virginia Build Lead, Momentum For Obama's Campaign

(CBS)  This analysis was written by CBSNews.com senior political editor Vaughn Ververs.

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Hillary Clinton spent years of maneuvering and over $100 million building what was supposed to be an impenetrable seawall capable of warding off any political assault. But Barack Obama has created a wave that began in the caucuses of Iowa, ebbed in New Hampshire, grew again in South Carolina, endured Super Tuesday and in Virginia and Maryland may have broken down the Clinton seawall at last.

From the beginning, Obama has faced the challenge of turning an air of excitement and energy into a movement on the ground and votes in the ballot box. In what's been called the Potomac Primary, he has gone a long way toward completing that task.

The erosion in Clinton's base of support in Maryland and Virginia was striking. Throughout this tightly contested race, Clinton has relied on the support of women, lower and middle-income voters, those with lower levels of education, older voters and Hispanics.

In Tuesday's voting, she lost to Obama overall in every one of those categories, winning only narrowly among all white voters and slightly larger among white women. The makeup of the electorate was clearly friendlier to Obama but he has eaten into areas of her strength. Hispanics, a small slice of the total vote, also broke for Obama.

The margin of victory for Obama in both states widened his lead in the overall delegate count, according to CBS News estimates. In Virginia, Obama won 64 percent of the vote and in Maryland with a similar number. In contests held since Super Tuesday, Obama has consistently won with numbers like that, not nail-biters.

The Obama movement has now materialized at the polls. In Virginia, over one-third of voters who turned out to vote in the Democratic contest were first-time primary voters.

Signs of downfall, if not panic, have been on display within the Clinton ranks. Her campaign manager was ousted last weekend and the deputy campaign manager was gone before the results were in from Maryland.

The campaign has talked down caucus contests, where Obama has done so well, for being unrepresentative. They have questioned the media coverage of their opponent, challenged him to more debates and argued about the delegates in limbo from the party-sanctioned states of Florida and Michigan. Meanwhile Obama is raising money at the clip of about $1 million per day while Clinton's folks say their finances have "stabilized" after a $5 million personal loan from the candidate herself.

Such process arguments haven’t fazed the tens of thousands of people who pack arenas at every stop to see Obama. They haven't stopped voters from flooding to the polls in record numbers from Iowa to Virginia and points in-between. Obama has won caucus states and primary states, big states and small ones, red and blue, north and south, east and west.

Clinton now faces a daunting challenge to not just stop a movement but do so emphatically. Next week, there will be contests in Wisconsin, where Obama leads in recent polls, and Hawaii, an Obama home state. Without a breakthrough win, Clinton will have gone ten straight contests without a victory. Those process questions may yet come into play with the battle over the unpledged super delegates who are likely to decide the final outcome but it's a long-shot at best should she end substantially behind in the overall vote.

Her campaign will look at making last-stands in Ohio and Texas on March 4th, two large states where she may have some built-in advantages. But the recent spate of losses has given Obama a widening delegate lead, one that will only be overcome with large-margins of victory for Clinton because of the proportional allocation system.

One factor working in Clinton's favor could be time. As clear front-runner, Obama is likely to undergo a new round of scrutiny in the three weeks between the Potomac primary and March 4th. Democratic voters yet to be heard will have time to ponder the decision their party appears ready to make. More importantly, Clinton will have that time to give them something to think about.

When Hillary and, more precisely, Bill Clinton went on the attack prior to the South Carolina primary and injected racial overtones into the discussion, it backfired. Big time. But Clinton has little choice now than to sharpen the distinctions she sees between herself and Obama. That will again create accusations that the Clintons are injecting race into the campaign. The Clinton campaign will have to figure out how it intends to walk that tricky path.

Clinton's seawall has broken down, bit by bit, contest by contest with the relentless waves of support for Obama, slowly eroding barriers once believed to be impenetrable -- and it's a tide that threatens to break down even more walls. In the first-ever Potomac Primary, the Obama wave finally crashed through Clinton's wall. Can her protection be rebuilt in time?

[adastra8]

Imagine our country as well-run as the Obama campaign. It''s been awhile!

[d33pthroat1]

Unfortunatey for Hillary, she will not be able to come back even after Ohio and Texas. Her campaign is starting to look like Giuliani''s who had all his hopes pinned on Florida. Didn''t work there, won''t work here.

Obama has the attraction and the momentum (deservedly so) to pull delegates from Ohio and Texas. At the very least, there is enough black vote in Ohio/Texas to tide him over.

So, the superbowl is going to be McCain versus Obama.

And, barring any serious mis-step/scandal (such as a Monica Lewinsky or a Swiftboat), he is going to be the next POTUS.

Taking bets now.

[andersenme]

Quote of the Day:

"Cynicism is a sorry kind of wisdom."

Sen. Barack Obama
Madison, Wisconsin

[andersenme]

Why did Hillary Clinton lose these last three primaries?

Too many questions about why she won''t release her taxes until after she becomes the Democratic nominee--if that happens.

(Doesn''t Hillary trust Democratic voters to make informed decisions?)

A lot of anxiety out there, too, about her plan to garnish workers'' wages as part of her mandatory medical insurance plan.

Parents in particular would probably like to know what Bill and Hillary have to offer young people in terms of messages about the importance of honesty and integrity--given all the scandals surrounding the former First Family.

And of course there is still a lot of anger out there how the Clintons engaged in racial coding on the eve of the celebration of the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday.

Finally, the Washington, D.C., metro area is home to a lot of human rights activists as well as recent immigrants who came to the United States fleeing political oppression, many of whom are less than impressed with Hillary''s flip flopping on the issue of torture.

With such fundamental questions hanging in the balance, what Democrat worth the name would buy a bridge back to the 20th Century?

[buddhabman]

This battle is not over on to Wisconsin, Hawaii, Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

It has gotten pretty quite over the blog sphere from the Clinton supporters. Unfortunately and maybe unfairly, Hillary is hampered by her past.

Clinton supporters now must recognize Obama is not an empty suit, he is a political heavy weight. They must now give him "Experience" credit for the wisdom, hard work to organize and execute a winning campaign strategy that has out maneuvered the smartest political minds in the US.

Obama 08

[b-easy63]

. Throughout this tightly contested race, Clinton has relied on the support of women, lower and middle-income voters, those with lower levels of education, older voters and Hispanics.


Maybe a lot of people are defecting because they don''t want to be included in the barefoot--dirt poor, old or ignorant/uneducated group that supposedly make up Hilary''s core group of voters...after all, image is king in America and Hilary has not been smart enough to challenge or defy the assessment that old and stupid people are the ones most likely to vote for her--and women, who feel sorry for her and think a vote for Hilary equals a new sufferage movement.

[b-easy63]

"But Clinton has little choice now than to sharpen the distinctions she sees between herself and Obama. That will again create accusations that the Clintons are injecting race into the campaign..."


Now here is where the author goes into Bizarro land. Why must race be used to make distinctions? Surely Hilary can peruse the Obama website and pick holes in his policy offerings--or are they too similar to her own? Surely her pit bulls are digging for dirt if they can find any on Obama?

The problem is--Hilary always was and remains a flawed, problem candidate. If she talks about drugs--we have only to remember her husband was a dope smoker (who lied and said he did not inhale) to bring it up will remind people that dope smokers can be Presidents and do okay like Bill.

If she talks about relationships between lawyers and clients, bringing up Rezko, she has her embarrassing photo ops not to mention her coziness with Chinese investors who just got indicted.

How about the times Obama only answered present to roll calls in the Senate? He only did 32 more "presents" than HIlary did...

Where is the money coming from? Obama released his records--Hilary has something to hide..the fact is--other than color/race, to attack Obama is to reveal her own seaminess and weaknesses--whats a conniving, inside playing, political machine party girl to do?

Especially since she RREPRESENTS THE STATUS QUO-- and most people are dead set against letting that continue? [sigh].

[taddles-2009]

"Taking bets now.

Posted by d33pthroat1 at 12:31 AM : Feb 13, 2008"

Not taking any of that action, that''s a sure bet.

Let''s see...beer, chips, pizza, funny hats...Whoot! looks like I''m all set for the inauguration party...now where did I put my Obama shirt. ;o)

[jsilver2th]

Poor Hillary does not even get it-

[notbuynit]

She is toasted. She looks like a plastic doll next to him. The "lady" is finished. Somebody tell her.

[user168-2009]

The Clintons have nothing to say to a generation of young people looking for authenticity, honesty and transparency in their leaders and in their government.

That''s why more and more young people are turning to Barack Obama.

MARTIN EDWIN ANDERSEN


Well said!

I am 60 years old and I don''t think I want anything to do with these Hillbilly Crooks either. How many out there want a pair of crooks to represent them? Everything these Hillbillies did is deceitful and self-gratifying. Words such as wisdom, compassion, or courage just do not exist in their dictionary.

The Billary Hillbillies are shameless and loveless in misleading our youths by setting the worst of examples!

%u201CSetting an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the only means.%u201D

%u201CThe foundation of every state is the education of its youth.%u201D

%u201CTo know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice.%u201D

%u201CKnowledge becomes evil if the aim be not virtuous.%u201D

%u201COne atom of the plane where He functions would shatter the world.%u201D

%u201CWhat is governing to him who cannot rule himself? Who cannot rule himself, how should he rule others?%u201D

KEEP THE HILLBILLIES OUT OF SIGHT!

[hopesalive-2009]

Tonight Hillary said she was "tested and proven" and that is why she is a better candidate. When was this test and did I miss it? Was she referring to when she failed to pass her healthcare bill in 93? Was she referring to how she survived Whitewater, Travelgate, and Filegate?

Talk about rhetoric. She has nothing but a history of failure and scandal. She wouldn''t even be here today had her husband not been President. Someday we will have a woman president. When this happens I hope it will be a person with integrity and values who will deserve this honored achievement in American History.

[samthetvcat]

Hillary''s money situation must still be in crisis - apparently she''s sort of given up on Wisconsin to focus on winning Texas and Ohio, but the last poll they did showed her with a nine-point lead . . .

Either she feels it''s better to just give it up than take a chance and lose, or else she can only afford to go full-throttle in Texas and Ohio (?)

[mermarvet]

"A Day, Which Will Live In Infamy".

[idiobiblio]

SamTheTVCat said:
"...apparently she''s sort of given up on Wisconsin to focus on winning Texas and Ohio, but the last poll they did showed her with a nine-point lead..."

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Actually, the Public Policy Polling results for the upcoming Wisconsin Democratic primaries released on February 11th have Obama at 50%, Clinton at 39% and Unsure at 10% with an estimated MoE of 3.9%. (see www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/polls/pdfs/PPP_Wisconsin_Release_021208.pdf).

Generally speaking, Wisconsin isn''t polled often by the large pollsters, so good data is hard to come by. Accordingly, I suspect that the Clinton campaign''s apparent decision to reduce their efforts there is based on their own internal appraisal of the state. Clinton and her staff may act like they don''t really need Wisconsin, Hawaii, etc, but they will fight for every delegate that they can in those states.

You are right of course that the Clinton campaign feels that winning Texas and Ohio as dramatically as possible is their goal now. I''m sure that they fully recognize that many voters focus more on the perception that a state is either won or lost rather than the more important delegate math.

[brdier]

I suspect in the next month Senator Obama%u2019s speeches will begin to address more specific polices. If so, this primary race will be over.

[colvinatch]

When Bill went on the attack it was over, he reminded us of the past, the arguments over the meanings of words, the half truths and slimy accusations and denials. They are both out of touch... Hillary has nothing to offer the young voter except reminders of Bill''s sordid past. I lost all respect for the Clinton''s in that instant Bill opened his mouth.

[shutupnvote]

I suspect in the next month Senator Obama%u2019s speeches will begin to address more specific polices. If so, this primary race will be over.


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Posted by BrdieR at 07:07 AM : Feb 13, 2008


And hopefully he will tell us who he thinks will be paying for all that largess he is dolling out, with a combined tax rate just below 50 percent already, I hope is not naive enough to believe Im willing to pay for it?

[byeneocons]

Dems! They''re both good candidates compared to the Neocon Swift Boat Party! No need to rip them apart.
The Neocons have nominated their senile liberal crazy uncle who wants to stay in Iraq one hundred years, and likes to sing "Bomb Iran." Four more years of supporting the failed Bush administration is exactly what we don''t need.

Let their primaries be the last gasp of the so called evangelical revolution. But don''t make the Democratic nomination a bloodbath - there''s no need.
Either candidate is better than McCain.

[perception5]

The "promotion" of Obama since September 2006 by the most corrupt institution in America, our MSM wolfpack press, is doing a "great disservice" to our nation.

At some point we need to warm up to the concept that "popularity (generated by our corrupt MSM) is no substitute for substance.

We need to start talking about the "issues"

And America''s corrupt MSM wolfpack press needs to stop their "pro-Obama propaganda campaign".

Where am I wrong?

[abbe91]

"And hopefully he will tell us who he thinks will be paying for all that largess he is dolling out, with a combined tax rate just below 50 percent already, I hope is not naive enough to believe Im willing to pay for it?

Posted by shutupNvote at 07:24 AM : Feb 13, 2008"

Maybe by ending Iraq occupation ?

[abbe91]

"The "promotion" of Obama since September 2006 by the most corrupt institution in America, our MSM wolfpack press, is doing a "great disservice" to our nation.

Where am I wrong?"

Posted by perception5 at 08:19 AM : Feb 13, 2008

I don''t know about the "most corrupt" institution.
Here, for example ...
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/McCain_Collected_100_000_From_Abramoff_s_Firm_3

[forthepeopl1]

WATCH OUT AMERICA, CLINTONS WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET IN THE WHITEHOUSE, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE MAKEINGS FOR 10 YEARS. WITH THE HELP OF THE BUSHES..THEY ARE TO CLOSE OF FREINDS. SO I WILL GIVE 100 TO 1 THAT OBAMA IF WINNING AND HE WILL, SOMEONE WILL ASSASINATE HIM???

THE GOVERMENT DID IT TO JFK WHEN HE WAS FOR US AVERAGE AMERICANS, SAYING IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE, WHILE THE HEADS OF THE WORLD THE FEW/THAT REALLY RUN THE WORLD. SAID NO WE RUN THE WORLD AND SO LONG JFK..

SO WATCH AND SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

[roach9703]

The money comes from Bill via his "charities". According the New York Times, Bill''s deals in Kazakhstan netted him 131.5 million for his charities. Now, to what extent could these wonderful organizations "contribute" to Hillary?

[roach9703]

Hail the next first lady president, don''t think negatively about Obama''s health, the F.B.I. will protect that.

[hillaryin08]

The only way the Clintonistas can win now is to steel the primary thru secrat delagates or give him the Vince Foster Treatment. And of course blame it on Bush

[briannorwood]

Hillary''s campaign is essentially over. Her problem is NOT money, it is NOT campaign managers, it is NOT the media...IT IS HER!

The more she campaigns, the more people do not like her. Once her air of inevitablity was broken, people realized that they didn''t have to follow along like lemmings.

Her campaign -- even in late December --never thought they would have to campaign past super tuesday. They had no strategy or organization in the states which followed...No plan "B".

Obama, on the other hand has out organized, out campaigned, and due to millions of small-time donors out financed the establishment machine.

Congratulations President-elect Obama!

[abbe91]

"The more she campaigns, the more people do not like her. Once her air of inevitablity was broken, people realized that they didn''''t have to follow along like lemmings.

Posted by briannorwood at 09:37 AM : Feb 13, 2008"

A pity republicans couldn''t do the same and come up with a decent candidate.

[jersupporter]

A pity republicans couldn''''t do the same and come up with a decent candidate. Posted by abbe91
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After the Clinton machine comes out and bashes Obama in the next couple of months, the Republicans will probably just have to show up to get four more years in the White House. How much more ignorant could some of these posters be? Again lack of understanding of the process is hilarious.

[abbe91]

"After the Clinton machine comes out and bashes Obama in the next couple of months, the Republicans will probably just have to show up to get four more years in the White House."
Posted by JERSupporter at 09:57 AM : Feb 13, 2008

That will require a lot of Diebold help ...

[b-easy63]

We%u2019re going to sweep across Texas in the next three weeks, bringing our message about what we need in America: The kind of president that will be required on day one to be commander in chief, to turn the economy around,%u201D Clinton told a crowd of thousands in El Paso Thursday night. %u201CI%u2019m tested. I%u2019m ready. Let%u2019s make this happen."


Hilary: "yeah, I''''m tested and I''''m ready!! so what if I can''''t manage my campaign and my core group is splintering...so what if I can''''t manage the campaign money and have to lend myself millions to survive one month? I SWEAR I''''ll do better, when it''''s the entire country and YOUR money, I get to manage--honest"

You have a point Hilary. Bush had ''''experience'''' and it showed he ran all businesses he owned into the ground and had to be bailed out (then he did it on the macro scale with the country) now you are showing that with your experience--you can''''t call a war right, don''''t know how to back off of torture, can''''t release your finances and can''''t even run or direct a Presidential campaign. We gave Bush a shot--why not you?


Why not, indeed.

[approvedcbs]

$100 million squandered by Hillary. If she really believed in helping the under-privileged couldnt that money have been better spent?

[bookwerm314]

How to split the "superdelegates" "fairly", and still allow some of them to both endorse AND vote for their selected candidates?

Not complicated math.

All the states are proportional, so even in states Clinton won, unless TOO MANY superdelegates want to support Obama, just let the undecided ones go with Clinton until the ratios are right. That way Kennedy CAN vote for Obama at the Primary, who he has endorsed, AND Clinton "gets her share". That way it is still fair, the public is NOT overruled by the Superdelegates, and there is NO ISSUE!

[l8c6]

That will require a lot of Diebold help ...

Posted by abbe91

Ya, think? Maybe at best 4 years to ostracize a weak presidency and "find their soul"

[l8c6]

After the Clinton machine comes out and bashes Obama in the next couple of months, the Republicans will probably just have to show up to get four more years in the White House. How much more ignorant could some of these posters be? Again lack of understanding of the process is hilarious.

Posted by JERSupporter

I think you are right. The school of hard knocks will beat down the hate and the ingrates. The school hasn''t really opened its door for any living generation.

[l8c6]

Congratulations President-elect Obama!

Posted by briannorwood


Oh my, how such right wingish bold arrogance can dissolve with time.

[ecurb54]

Obama is the best thing to happen to this country in a long, long time. Let''s pray he doesn''t suffer the same fate as John, Bobby, Martin, and Benazir. The Secret Service better be taking good care of this man.

[pensacola88]

Hillary Clinton underestimated the passion of voters and willingness to support someone other than herself, until it was too late. She exhibited a certainty that was about something that had yet to be proven.

Being the cause for the matter of change means that new possibilities have to be created. When voters weighed the posiibilities created for Hillary against Barack Obama, they saw one that they loved...Barack Obama does not accept campaign contributions from Washington Lobbyists or Political Action Committees.

It is clear that Barack Obama created a "Self-Discipline" for himself that he wants to offer to our country.

Barack Obama allows voters to rise up and offer changes to theirself.

Hillary Clinton''s messages are about empowering her to make changes for us, citing that all we can offer her is a vote.

In the end, the perception that voters are in love with, is the feeling that Barack Obama makes his supporters feel our country belongs to us, not an elected official or special interest group.

The best winning formula for this campaign has the ingredient of ownership left to voters. Special interest, PACS and Lobbyists will be there always, but letting them run the country for us is not an option in the mind of a Barack Obama supporter.

[shutupnvote]

You got Al Sharpton on MSNBC out threatening the base and the Dem Party that if they don%u2019t go his way and disenfranchise Fla and Mich voters a couple of million Dems true most are not black, by keeping their votes from counting, which was never the intent per the DNC Chairman Dean, who beloved they would always be seated at the convention, he calls it as a civil rights issue, that%u2019s a threat%u2026.

Look if this Dem crowning is not stopped by voters in Oh, Tx and Pa and this militancy continues, I believe it will be then be incumbent on the marginalized disaffected remaining base of elderly, women, working poor and Hispanics to create their own wave and movement in mass away from the Dem whose last stab at the Camelot Social Justice created great burdens for these and leave the Dem party to the future they are yammering for a coalition of blacks, young voters and Progressive Liberal elitist ,no old guard, no old base and let them have a do over for their Liberal Social Justice Platform Camelot of this century%u2026 outside of the White House.

Moving right will also break the strangle hold of the fringe social conservative right on the GOP and McCains Platform to lower taxes and stop the corrupt special interest as a servant of the People not a as preening prince.

[jack3213]

McCain WILL beat Obama or Clinton. Obama & Clinton have no experiance, are as phoney as celebriies and all they do is make grand promises of change and illusions of big dreams that they think will make everyone happy. WRONG. Deal with what the issues are, stop hiding behind rose colored glasses for once. Be adult and be responsible for yourself. Obama or Clinton will not hold your han, but raise taxes and make enormous mistakes. We don''t need more mistakes, we need to finish the war correctly, we need not have our taxes raised, and we do not need socialism in this country. WAKE UP.

[ontheleft]

Last night was the nail in Clinton''s coffin. It is over for her. She may hang on until March 4th, but she''ll be out of the race by March 5th due to the fact she won''t have any money coming in.

[pepperp1]

You have a point Hilary. Bush had ''''''''experience'''''''' and it showed he ran all businesses he owned into the ground and had to be bailed out (then he did it on the macro scale with the country) now you are showing that with your experience--you can''''''''t call a war right, don''''''''t know how to back off of torture, can''''''''t release your finances and can''''''''t even run or direct a Presidential campaign. We gave Bush a shot--why not you?


Why not, indeed.


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Posted by b-easy63 at 10:06 AM : Feb 13, 2008


Not true Bush had as much experience as Barak, Gov of Tx is very different then other States your a small cog a Figure head window dressing you inspire but dont run the State, and you wear a Stetson instead of an Armani suit.

[lorinkundert]

The Latino voters need to realize that Hillary will forget who they are if she wins, they are only a means to an end.

[pepperp1]

Look if this Dem crowning is not stopped by voters in Oh, Tx and Pa and this militancy continues, I believe it will then be incumbent on the marginalized disaffected remaining base of elderly, women, working poor and Hispanics to create their own wave and movement in mass away from the Dem Party whose last stab at the Camelot Social Justice created great tax burden on these demographics more so than any other and leave the new *** progressives to the future they are yammering for a coalition of blacks, young voters and Progressive Liberal elitist ,no old guard, no old base and let them have a do over for their Liberal Social Justice Platform Camelot of this century%u2026 outside of the White House.

Moving right will also break the strangle hold of the fringe social conservative right on the GOP and McCains Platform to lower taxes and stop the corrupt special interest as a servant of the People not a as preening prince. McCain will need to add his own first a non Bush groupie as his VP and lighten up on the Alito mindless judge commitments..

Understand the power in this union 43 percent of the Electorate are white women no other group comes close when Left and right combine.

[pepperp1]

Last night was the nail in Clinton''''s coffin. It is over for her. She may hang on until March 4th, but she''''ll be out of the race by March 5th due to the fact she won''''t have any money coming in.


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Posted by ontheleft at 11:42 AM : Feb 13, 2008


No problem then McCain will be President.

[randynason]

Unlike his components, Barack displays a sense of excited freshness and real moral vision. That is a lost art in Washington and an issue the others were not counting on to address. While the others had decided that they had it all sewn up, Obama stuck to his ethical guns and simply portrayed himself and not what everyone else wanted him to act like. It''s ironic that in this time, it''s the white "Christian" people who are the slaves (mental.)

[ontheleft]

"No problem then McCain will be President.

Posted by pepperp1 at 11:54 AM"

At this point in time, Obama does better in the polls against McCain than Clinton does.

The Republicans have not unleashed their attacks on Obama yet and no doubt he will suffer damage. But every racist, right wing nut or evangelical Christian that the Republicans can drag to the polls will be met by an Obama supporter to counter them. Unlike Kerry, Obama is a candidate that the Democrats can rally around and Obama will attract educated open minded independents. Obama stands a very good chance of winning the presidency and the establishment is very afraid of that.

[dinslc]

ontheleft is absolutely right.

Anytime i hear a Hillary supporter predict failure for Barack, i just think, "They have no clue." People are coming out in record numbers to vote for Barack. For every sore loser who won''t vote for Barack, there''s a regular dem voter and 3 new voters to offset their vote. If Obama is the nominee, he will bring out a whole new, HUGE block of new voters.

That fact is, Obama is a better candidate. Obama is not only inspiring. He has (detailed) answers to our country''s problems. He has a new and different way of thinking about politics and partisans, and has far superior judgement than Hillary. A general election matchup of McCain or Obama would be a race between two men of integrity, and for once in our lives we might actually see a campaign based on the real issues, not dirty political games.

[l8c6]

Last night was the nail in Clinton''''s coffin. It is over for her. She may hang on until March 4th, but she''''ll be out of the race by March 5th due to the fact she won''''t have any money coming in.

Posted by ontheleft

The part that really creeps me out is that many right wing bloggers share your hate and vitriol of Hillary. I hope this isn''t the final nail in the coffin of the working class of this country.

[l8c6]

A general election matchup of McCain or Obama would be a race between two men of integrity, and for once in our lives we might actually see a campaign based on the real issues, not dirty political games.

Posted by dinslc

Something else that smells of rat. John McCain deserving of more respect than Hillary? How well is the homework being done on that one? How about that Keating incident for one?