February 11, 2009 3:26 PM

Bush: No More Debate Over Spy Program

(AP)  President Bush pressured the House on Wednesday to pass new rules for monitoring terrorists' communications, saying "terrorists are planning new attacks on our country ... that will make Sept. 11 pale by comparison."

Mr. Bush said he would not agree to giving the House more time to debate a measure the Senate passed Tuesday governing the government's ability to work with telecommunications companies to eavesdrop on phone calls and e-mails between suspected terrorists. The bill gives phone companies retroactive protection from lawsuits filed on the basis of cooperation they gave the government without court permission - something Mr. Bush insisted was included in the bill.

About 40 lawsuits have been filed against telecom companies by people alleging violations of wiretapping and privacy laws. The House did not include the immunity provision in a similar bill it passed last year.

"In order to be able to discover ... the enemy's plans, we need the cooperation of telecommunication companies," Mr. Bush said. "If these companies are subjected to lawsuits that could cost them billions of dollars, they won't participate. They won't help us. They won't help protect America."

The 68-29 Senate vote Tuesday to update the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act belied the nearly two months of stops and starts and bitter political wrangling that preceded it. The two sides had battled to balance civil liberties with the need to conduct surveillance on potential adversaries.

Mr. Bush said the Senate bill was passed with wide, bipartisan support, and the House should pass it too - before the current law expires at midnight on Saturday.

"Congress has had over six months to discuss and deliberate," said Mr. Bush, who stood alongside Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell. "The time for debate is over. I will not accept any temporary extension. They have already been given a two-week extension."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid accused the president and Senate Republicans of being more interested in politicizing intelligence than resolving the debate. Reid said that the issue would not be before Congress if Mr. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney "in their unyielding efforts to expand presidential powers," had not created a system to conduct wiretapping, including on U.S. citizens, outside the bounds of federal law.

"The president could have taken the simple step of requesting new authority from Congress ... but whether out of convenience, incompetence, or outright disdain for the rule of law, the administration chose to ignore Congress and ignore the Constitution," Reid said.

Reid said if the president chooses to veto a short-term extension, he, not Congress will have to take the blame for any gaps in collecting intelligence of terrorists' communications.

"Due to months of White House foot-dragging, the relevant House committees have only just gotten important documents related to whether the Bush Administration followed the law and the Constitution," he said. "They need some time to review and analyze them. We must not let this critical issue be resolved by White House bullying."

Doubtful they can work out the differences in the bills by the time the law expires, Democrats in the Senate and the House prepared short-term extensions that would keep the law in effect for several more weeks. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky blocked an extension attempt Tuesday. Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the senior Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, said Republicans in the House would fight another extension.

"The one thing we've learned about Congress is they won't act until forced to," White House press secretary Dana Perino told reporters after Mr. Bush's statement. "We're not going to pass extensions into perpetuity."

House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers said Tuesday he still opposes retroactive immunity.

"There is no basis for the broad telecommunications company amnesty provisions advocated by the administration," Conyers wrote in a letter to White House Counsel Fred Fielding asking for documents about the wiretapping program. The documents have been withheld from Congress.

While giving the White House what it wanted on immunity, the Senate also expanded the power of the court to oversee government eavesdropping on Americans. The amendment would give the FISA court the authority to monitor whether the government is complying with procedures designed to protect the privacy of innocent Americans whose telephone or computer communications are captured during surveillance of a foreign target.

The bill would also require FISA court orders to eavesdrop on Americans who are overseas. Under current law, the government can wiretap or search the possessions of anyone outside the United States - even a soldier serving overseas - without court permission if it believes the person may be a foreign agent.

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by sherriepie1 February 13, 2008 9:06 PM EST
this wire tapping fiasco is a big joke what constitutes aterroerist anyone that dis agrees wity that devil bush and his cronies ,can i possibly have a conversation with my mom dis agreeing on national policy and have my phone and internet services bugged and my door knocked down and dragged to jail to be waterboarde or brain washed to satans way of thinking ..........wake up people hitler has been reincarnated by satan i9n the name of bush
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by cfin5 February 13, 2008 7:51 PM EST
I don''t regard REAL terrorists to have ANY constitutional rights. Neither is "waterboarding" anything like what they would do to us. Get the information out of them and then put them down. However, I think that "other" definitions of what a terrorist is is being coupled with the real definition. Thereby making a United States citizen exercising their constitutional rights, namely the 1st. Amendment, out to be some kind of terrorist being disgusted at the stupid things those in our government do,......NOT COOL! When they do that, I say they are terrorizing our Constitution by violating the 9th. Amendment which is the "lock on the box" enumerate for protection against rascals and swindlers in office,....namely Lawmakers in particular.
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by ajayvee February 13, 2008 5:50 PM EST
It must be soooo frustrating being a Democrat these days. To be betrayed day after day by your representatives and realizing there is f*ck all you can do about it.
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by bm6005 February 13, 2008 5:05 PM EST
mbcsmith

How''s the menopause going Mary?
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by bm6005 February 13, 2008 4:55 PM EST
Reid couldn''''t lead a girl scout troop.
mbcsmith

Sure Mary; and your hero could GWBushit could?? ROFLMFAO!!
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by aeasus February 13, 2008 12:16 PM EST
Just say NO to warrentless wire taps. Those who broke the law should be made example of. Allowing immunity for those who break the laws is defiant to our legal system. To even consider such a violation of our constitution is criminal.
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by mbcsmith February 13, 2008 11:49 AM EST
W really bitc*slapped Reid across the room on this one. Harry "I surrender " Reid couldn''t lead a girl scout troop.
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by gce65 February 13, 2008 9:17 AM EST
Here it is, the LIST OF SHAME:

The final tally was 68-29, with 3 abstaining.
Crossing over to vote with the Republicans were:
Jay Rockefeller (D-WV),
Max Baucus (D-MT),
Evan Bayh (D-IA),
Tom Carper (D-DE),
Richard Casey (D-PA),
Kent Conrad (D-ND),
Daniel Inouye (D-HI),
Tim Johnson (D-SD),
Herb Kohl (D-WI),
Mary Landrieu (D-LA),
Blanche Lincoln (D-AR),
Claire McCaskill (D-MO),
Barbara Mikulski (D-MD),
Ben Nelson (D-NE),
Bill Nelson (D-FL),
Mark Pryor (D-AR),
Ken Salazar (D-CO),
Jim Webb (D-VA), and
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)


Also keep in mind that ALL Republicans and one "Independent" (Lieberman!) voted for this trash bill!
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by gce65 February 13, 2008 9:02 AM EST
Here''s the link to the roll call vote:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00020

And here''s the link to all your senators, in case you might want to voice your outrage:

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
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by gce65 February 13, 2008 7:45 AM EST
Anyone know what the roll call vote was? I''d love to see the names of the 18 Democrats who caved in be published, but the US media never report it; that would be too much accountability.

The Guardian UK reported:

Despite a boost from Barack Obama %u2014 but not the absent Hillary Clinton %u2014 Democratic senators today failed to stop the Bush administration from winning legal immunity for telecom companies that helped the government eavesdrop on Americans.
Obama voted with 30 fellow Democrats to allow the telecom companies to face lawsuits, which civil liberties groups consider a crucial chance to unearth information on the administration''s programme of wiretapping without a court warrant.
But the immunity survived, with 18 Democrats crossing over to support George Bush.

WHO WERE THE 18 TRAITORS? (Keep in mind all the GOPers are TRAITORS)
Rockefeller was one.
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