February 11, 2009 3:27 PM

AP Poll: To Fix Economy, Get Out Of Iraq

(AP)  The heck with Congress' big stimulus bill. The way to get the country out of recession - and most people think we're in one - is to get the country out of Iraq, according to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll.

Pulling out of the war ranked first among proposed remedies in the survey, followed by spending more on domestic programs, cutting taxes and, at the bottom end, giving rebates to poor people in hopes they'll spend the economy into recovery.

The $168 billion economic rescue package Congress rushed to approval this week includes rebates of $600 to $1,200 for most taxpayers, the hope being that they will spend the money and help revive ailing businesses. President Bush is expected to sign the measure next week. Poor wage-earners, as well as seniors and veterans who live almost entirely off Social Security and disability benefits, would get $300 checks.

However, just 19 percent of the people surveyed said they planned to go out and spend the money; 45 percent said they'd use it to pay bills.

And nearly half said what the government really should do is get out of Iraq.

Forty-eight percent said a pullout would help fix the country's economic problems "a great deal," and an additional 20 percent said it would help at least somewhat. Some 43 percent said increasing government spending on health care, education and housing programs would help a great deal; 36 percent said cutting taxes.

"Let's stop paying for this war," said Hilda Sanchez, 44, of Waterford, Calif. "There are a lot of people who are struggling. We can use the money to pay for medical care and help people who were put out of their homes."

The subject of leaving Iraq shows a sharp partisan divide - 65 percent of Democrats think it would help the economy a lot, but only 18 percent of Republicans think so.

Just 29 percent of people think putting more money in the hands of the poor would help a great deal in fixing the country's economic problems.

According to many economists, the lower people are on the income ladder, the more probable it is that they will spend a rebate and do it quickly - a shot in the arm for the ailing economy.

In the poll, 61 percent said they think the economy is already in a recession.

"Things are bad, but it will get a lot worse," said Jim Sims, 60, of Greer, S.C.

And Nanette Dahlin, 52, of St. Louis Park, Minn., said the economic stimulus package "would only make a recession less damaging."

The economy nearly stalled in the final three months of last year. Some economists, like the majority of poll respondents, say it may actually be shrinking now, given the strains from a persistent housing slump and a painful credit crunch. The worry is that people and businesses will hunker down further and pull back their spending, sending the economy into a tailspin.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has gotten more forceful in cutting interest rates to spur people to buy more and to energize businesses. And now Republicans, Democrats and the White House have shown rare cooperation in approving relief.

Rebate checks could start showing up in mailboxes in May. However, Sanchez is typical is saying the money will "go automatically to bills." Thirty-two percent said they would save or invest the rebate. Said Sims: "I'm hoping to hold onto it."

Just 19 percent - like Dahlin - said they would spend it, while 4 percent said they would donate it to charity.

Paying off bills or saving the money won't give the economy a quick boost, though it may well be a wise financial decision for many people who are up to their eyeballs in bills.

"What is good for the economy as a whole - spending a rebate - is not the best idea at an individual household level if you are buried in debt," said Greg McBride, senior financial analyst at Bankrate.com. "Issuing rebate checks to give a boost to consumer spending amounts to a Band-Aid over the much bigger problem of consumer debt burdens," he said.

With Wall Street in turmoil, the top economic worry for poll respondents was seeing their nest eggs shrink. Fifty-nine percent said they were worried "a lot" or "some" about seeing the value of stocks and retirement investments drop. Those approaching retirement fretted the most.

Nearly half - 46 percent - said they were worried about being able to pay their bills. This is especially a concern for people whose household incomes are under $50,000, and for minorities. Twenty-eight percent most feared losing their jobs; minorities and those with a high school education or less were especially concerned.

Also, 48 percent of homeowners polled worried that the value of their homes would drop. The housing bust has led to record-high foreclosures, and weaker home values have made people feel less wealthy.

Who deserves most of the blame for the economy's troubles?

More than half - 56 percent - pointed the finger at mortgage lenders. Forty-four percent said President Bush deserves a lot of the blame. After that come Congress, Wall Street, consumers themselves, and in last place the Federal Reserve.

The Fed has the public's confidence that it will be able to right the economy.

More than half - 55 percent - said they have a great deal or some confidence in Fed to turn things around. Forty-one percent said that about Congress, only 28 percent about Mr. Bush.

In fact, economic problems have contributed to pulling the president's approval ratings to all-time lows. Only 29 percent approve of his handling of the economy, the lowest mark yet in this polling. Mr. Bush's overall job-approval rating slid to 30 percent, also a record low.

The AP-Ipsos poll was conducted Monday through Wednesday this week and involved telephone interviews with 1,006 adults. It had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

AP Director of Surveys Trevor Tompson and AP News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius contributed to this report.
By Jeannine Aversa

© 2009 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
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by joyous88 February 11, 2008 8:08 AM EST
so iceman, name a country where they boil babies in oil,
??

The only place so barbaric that I can think of would be the home of a conservative republican, they regularly turn their pregnate daughters out, like a pimp with his ***, but thats just the christian way is it not?
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by antizion February 11, 2008 6:04 AM EST
No kidding? Who''s a thunk it. Spendings trillions to destroy the worlds source of cheap oil while oil companies make record profits is bad for the economy.

The oil companies should be nationalized due to price fixing and other concerns.
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by iceman_1960 February 11, 2008 3:41 AM EST
"To eat an animal while it is still alive is to be able to imbibe its very essence--or so it is said."
- Posted by b-easy63 at 12:18 AM : Feb 11, 2008

There are some countries so barbaric they throw living lobsters into boiling water and burn them alive.

Ellen Degeneres rescued some lobsters from that grisly fate on her sitcom once.
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by iceman_1960 February 11, 2008 3:37 AM EST
Almost right, from memory.

"China can"t understand our beef."
Posted by b-easy63 at 11:11 PM : Feb 10, 2008

And their Hindu neighbors are horrified at the eating of beef.

Christopher Hitchens reports that during the mad cow epidemic in Europe, the government of India tried to purchase the European cattle herds, intending to save them from slaughter by giving them political asylum in India.
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by iceman_1960 February 11, 2008 3:30 AM EST
"iceman--I"m also surprised that Yuan said his daughter was shocked that americans eat pork given that, pork is highly prized as a food in china as is chicken. Beef on the other hand, is rarely eaten, due to the expense. gotta go to bed now. bye. :) "
- Posted by b-easy63 at 12:22 AM : Feb 11, 2008

That must be what you meant earlier, when you said "The Chinese don"t understand our beef."

Oh well,

As they say in China, hasta la vista.
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by b-easy63 February 11, 2008 3:30 AM EST
remember being the guest of one of my Chinese friends, and how she and her (white) husband were doting over her little dog, almost treating it as her child.

But maybe they were just waiting for me to leave, so they could cook it for desert. You never know.

Posted by Iceman_1960 at 12:26 AM : Feb 11, 2008


BAD FORM!!!! LOL. Actually, until the time that the animal is used for food, the Chinese are very loving to most animals. I think like many things, eating dog and wanting to continue to do it is an acquired taste. Ever had Rocky mountain oysters or tongue? Some like it--some don''t. But I can tell you , that when we lived in Taiwan, our neighbor''s stole and cooked 3 of our dogs (2 puppies and the mom) we know, because one of them came over and offered the housegirl some of the meat, they did not realize she would side with us and tell us.

I bet, your friends DO love the dog as a pet. Maybe she never learned to like eating dog. Or she has no need to now. LOL
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by iceman_1960 February 11, 2008 3:27 AM EST
Goodnight, b-easy63.
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by b-easy63 February 11, 2008 3:26 AM EST
One of my favorite movies: "Eat. Drink, Man, Woman" wonderful, especially the cooking in the movie.
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by iceman_1960 February 11, 2008 3:26 AM EST
RE: Post by b-easy63 at 12:18 AM : Feb 11, 2008

Unfortunately appalling cruelty to animals can be found in this country. (Isn"t that right, Mr. Vick ?)

I remember being the guest of one of my Chinese friends, and how she and her (white) husband were doting over her little dog, almost treating it as her child.

But maybe they were just waiting for me to leave, so they could cook it for desert. You never know.
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by b-easy63 February 11, 2008 3:22 AM EST
iceman--I''m also surprised that Yuan said his daughter was shocked that americans eat pork given that, pork is highly prized as a food in china as is chicken. Beef on the other hand, is rarely eaten, due to the expense. gotta go to bed now. bye. :)
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