Feb. 10, 2008

Hillary Clinton's Run For The White House

Talks To 60 Minutes About Her Bid For The Democratic Presidential Nomination

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(CBS)  Senator Hillary Clinton never expected such a tight race. Last fall, she was ahead in the polls by a wide margin with no serious rivals to worry about.

Now she finds herself locked in a fierce battle with her opponent Barrack Obama. But she's already won several big states and she's got her eye on two important primaries in early March, Texas and Ohio.

With the Democratic nomination in the balance, she remains focused, energized and anything but defeatist.



"Barack Obama's candidacy has undeniably gained momentum over the recent months. Have you grappled with the idea, Senator Clinton, that it could be him and not you?" Katie Couric asked Clinton.

"Well, when you're in the heat of this intense experience, the only way I know how to do it is to believe with all my heart that I'm going to be successful. That's what I get up every day and tell myself. That's what I believe. That's what I think is going to happen. So I don't entertain the other option," Sen. Clinton replied.

"Even in your deepest darkest moments, when you're exhausted, you don't think 'Oh my gosh, I'm going through this, I'm spending so much money, I'm so tired and this could be all for naught?' What if that happens?" Couric asked. "You have to, once in a while, think that. No?"

"No, Katie," Clinton said. "You can't think like that. You have to believe you're going to win."

"Otherwise leave the field and let somebody who has the confidence and the optimism and determination that a leader has to have get on that field instead," she added.

Staying on that field requires stamina, especially when she travels to three or more states in one day.

60 Minutes visited Clinton at her home in Chappaqua, N.Y, on Super Tuesday as she sat through 57 satellite interviews with reporters from across the country, repeatedly stressing her readiness to be president.

"How do you do it? I mean, the satellite interviews, the speeches, the travel, the debates, the schmoozing, the picture taking, 24/7," Couric asked.

"I do it because I really believe in what I'm doing," Clinton said.

"I knew you were gonna say that," Couric remarked.

"Well, but it's true," Clinton said.

"But I'm talking about pure stamina," Couric said.

"Pure stamina. I have a lot of stamina and I have a lot of resilience," the senator said.

Asked if she pops vitamins or drinks a lot of coffee, Clinton said, "I take vitamins. I drink tea, not coffee anymore. I have really stopped drinking diet drinks. Because I found that they gave you a jolt, but they weren't good over the long run. I used to drink a lot of them. I drink tons of water. Just as much water as I can possibly drink."

"My two secrets to staying healthy: wash your hands all the time. And, if you can't, use Purell or one of the sanitizers. And the other is hot peppers. I eat a lot of hot peppers. I for some reason started doing that in 1992, and I swear by it," she added.

Her staff is as sleep deprived as she is, many of them longtime loyal Clintonites, with a war room similar to Bill Clinton's in the 1990s.

Barack Obama wasn't seen as a serious threat to her candidacy, until he started filling large arenas and inspiring voters.

"There are two schools of thought. One is the big, huge, enthusiastic crowds don't necessarily translate totally into votes. The other is this is really a steam engine that is just getting started. This is a movement that's just getting started. And the more he's at it, the bigger it's gonna get," Couric remarked.

"I don't see that," Clinton said. "I think what we saw on Super Tuesday is that people who feel like this country's headed in the wrong direction, are increasingly saying, 'We know who we want to go with. We want someone who, on day one, can walk into the Oval Office, be commander in chief, turn the economy around. Really start solving our problems.' And I think that trumps the excitement factor, which is important. And I am very impressed and really excited that there's so many people, especially young people, who are part of our party because of his campaign. But this is really serious business. And we've got two wars going on. We have an economy slipping into recession. We have people who are hurting and are looking for answers. And I believe my campaign and my candidacy offers that."

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by rowdytexan2 February 8, 2008 4:36 PM PST
Go Hillary! Keep up the good work! We need competence and experience in the White House, not great oratory with no substance!
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by denn034 February 8, 2008 4:39 PM PST
She should be. One would think that she and Bill would be sensitive and not attack as a result but, that''s not the case. Daschle was right to note their "very combative" campaigning.
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by gkc99 February 8, 2008 5:07 PM PST
At least Obama doesn''t get all teary and start blubbering in public!
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by cbs4me3 February 8, 2008 5:11 PM PST
Hillary, I am a white male democrat and my heart goes out to you. The barrage from the likes of Matthews and others is unbelievable. My suggestion is that you stay on message because as you know, these others will do themselves in. People are smart enough to see the barrage you are under and are sickened by them. Stay strong, for your supporters remain with you.
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by jedi08 February 8, 2008 5:11 PM PST
The Right is praying Hillary wins. They are scared to death of Obama because they know they can''t beat him
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by jack3213 February 8, 2008 5:13 PM PST
"Sen. Hillary Clinton tells Katie Couric she''s the best candidate to go against the Republican nominee in November because she has experienced the negative ad campaigns the Republicans are sure to run and Sen. Barack Obama has not. "
WHY DO YOU THINK SHE HAS EXPERIANCED NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN ADS??? BECAUSE SHE IS A NEGATIVE PERSON IS DISGUISE, A FRAUD & A PHONEY TO THE CORE.
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by jack3213 February 8, 2008 5:14 PM PST
"Sen. Hillary Clinton tells Katie Couric she''''s the best candidate to go against the Republican nominee in November because she has experienced the negative ad campaigns the Republicans are sure to run and Sen. Barack Obama has not. "
WHY DO YOU THINK SHE HAS EXPERIANCED NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN ADS??? BECAUSE SHE IS A NEGATIVE PERSON IN DISGUISE, A FRAUD & A PHONEY TO THE CORE. SUCH HYPROCRISY. SAD AND DISGREACEFUL.
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by prinzowhales February 8, 2008 5:15 PM PST
"Cattle Futures" Clinton had best be ready for attacks--and most of them will be justified. She is best of buddies with John McCain in the Senate--this should give Democrat pause...but won''t, any more than Lieberman''s endorsement of McCain, or Obama''s support of the McCain bill to extend health care to Mexico... yes, you read that right:

http://opensourceactivist.org/2008/02/06/bill-to-improve-health-care-in-mexico/

All of these creatures support open borders and internationalism...all are funded by the same corrupt forces that funded Bush--who is trying to rally Americans to McCain and a continuation of the Stupid People''s War for Oil, Israel, Opium and the Enrichment of the Oligarchy.

I will be voting THIRD PARTY. Treason, Corruption and Idiocy...the Holy Trinity of Demopublicanism... have taken this nation to the brink of economic and foreign policy disaster and are now intent upon taking it over the edge.

Vote to control our borders, curb the dogs in Washington, re-institute an American foreign policy, end the private money monopoly, put an end to the police state and IRS...

...You have a choice! You can vote for any of the Demopublican figurines or you can vote for YOUR Constitution, YOUR Republic and YOUR future by voting for a Third Party candidate.
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by notopennshut February 8, 2008 5:31 PM PST
WE should stop all this name-calling. These are coming from those who want to destroy the party by providing ammunition for the other side. Instead, let us focus on what is best for the country and who will be the best candidate to beat McCain. Without a doubt, it would be Obama. Hillary would energize the republican, even Ann Coulter who is lying when she says she''s for Hillary. We should, right now, all stand behind Obama who is shown to be the strongest candidate to beat any republican, even Huckebee. Let us not destroy this chance to get a democrat in the white house. Nominating Hillary will just set us on this path. The super delegates may be key to this and if they are the ones who set us on this path, repercussions will be a flow of voters to the other side. So the super delegates should see the future that they will help create in their decisions.
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by brushing3 February 8, 2008 5:35 PM PST
No he stutters like a blooming idiot.
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by aeasus February 8, 2008 5:36 PM PST
Does anyone remember whitewater? or impeachment? or Mena airport happenings? Rose law firm midnight document shredding? just to name a few...

http://www.hillaryclintonrevealed.net/hillary_clinton_scandals.htm

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/crimes_of_mena.html

http://www.daveschultz.com/clinton/bodycount.html
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by remmeler February 8, 2008 5:38 PM PST
In reference to HadEnufff. Your comments have no substance. They are just gutter talk with no facts. Hillary couldn''t possibly be any worse than George Bush and the people that he has around him. She has exposure to the way a White House works, she has been acknowledged as a good Senator by Republicans, She, in the Senate has had experience on the Armed Services Commitee and is a Commissioner of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe. She also will have a staff that knows how to run an election campaign.
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by forthepeopl1 February 8, 2008 5:39 PM PST
[edit] Criminal and Civil Prosecutions
Two provisions of the MCA , MISERY HILLARY GOT THIS PAST INTO LAW...WHY

First, the MCA changed the definition of war crimes for which US government defendants can be prosecuted. Under the War Crimes Act of 1996, any violation of Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions was considered a war crime and could be criminally prosecuted. Section 6 of the Military Commissions Act amended the War Crimes Act so that only actions specifically defined as "grave breaches" of Common Article 3 could be the basis for a prosecution, and it made that definition retroactive to November 26, 1997. The specific actions defined in section 6 of the Military Commissions Act include torture, cruel or inhumane treatment, murder, mutilation or maiming, intentionally causing serious bodily harm, rape, sexual assault or abuse, and the taking of hostages. According to Mariner of Human Rights Watch, the effect is "that perpetrators of several categories of what were war crimes at the time they were committed, can no longer be punished under U.S. law."[32] The Center for Constitutional Rights adds:

The MCA%u2019s restricted definitions arguably would exempt certain U.S. officials who have implemented or had command responsibility for coercive interrogation techniques from war crimes prosecutions.
. . . .
This amendment is designed to protect U.S. government perpetrators of abuses during the "war on terror" from prosecution.[33]

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by brushing3 February 8, 2008 5:42 PM PST
JACKSON ENDORSED OBAMA AND THE FOLLOWING IS WHAT WE WILL BE HEARING FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS IF OBAMA BECOMES PRESIDENT. JACKSON & SHARPTON...OBAMMA JAMMA DING DONG....WAKE UP AMERICA. WHY DO YOU THINK JACKSON & SHARPTON HAVE BEEN SUBDUED!

Jackson sharply criticized presidential hopeful and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama for "acting like he%u2019s white" in what Jackson catagorizes as a "tepid response" to six black juveniles%u2019 arrest on attempted-murder charges in Jena, La.

Jackson, who also lives in Illinois, endorsed Obama in March, according to The Associated Press.

%u201CIf I were a candidate, I%u2019d be all over Jena,%u201D Jackson said after an hour-long speech at Columbia%u2019s historically black Benedict College.

%u201CJena is a defining moment, just like Selma was a defining moment,%u201D said Jackson.
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by krenz4 February 8, 2008 5:42 PM PST
OOOO, even more experience for hillary!! What she at now 150 years now?
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by Hybdiesel February 8, 2008 5:45 PM PST
Go Hillary, if you lose I will have to cross the road and vote repukecan. I will not vote for a muslim.
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by grazinggoat February 8, 2008 5:46 PM PST
She has a basinfull of tears to shed... again and again!
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by dan9111 February 8, 2008 5:48 PM PST
There''s still a theoretical chance to nominate Ron Paul. Democrats, you have nothing to gain by voting for either bogus anti-war candidate who will continue the war and doubly continute to drain your wallet.

Join the real conservatives (they ain''t warfare-fetishist McCain supporters) and purge this political system of its pro-government filth.
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by melbuck3 February 8, 2008 5:50 PM PST
One simple Rep ad amongst many!

I worked 3.5 yrs in the ghettos of Chicago, and then went into politics thanks to a slumlord I met! And while those I left behind in the ghetto froze in a winter%u2019s deep freeze because the slumlord couldn%u2019t afford the heat, he did managed to keep funding my political campaign thankfully! In return, I wrote letters for more Gov. money for my slumlord friend, forgetting that he had already defaulted on $10%u2019s of millions he already got from Gov., what%u2019s a few more millions for a friend?

Then as I stated many times, I didn%u2019t vote in support of the Iraq war, and no one caught on that I wasn%u2019t a member of the US Senate when the vote was going on! But I have my anti war rally speech to fall back on and will not mention telling Tim Russert in %u201804 that if I was in the Senate, I do not know how I would have voted!

When I wanted a house I couldn''t afford I called my slumlord friend to help again! Now I live in a mansion a mile from the ghetto''s I once worked in! But that%u2019s ok, no one will really care since Oprah loves me and the slumlord sits in jail!

But this isn%u2019t about me it is about you!
It isn''t about the past it%u2019s about the future and your believing in what I say I can do!
It is about doing as MLK did, for me to live as the less fortunate do, by living in public housing as they do!
That''s why I seek the White House and the Presidency of these United States of America, for you!
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by jamurphy4 February 8, 2008 5:52 PM PST
She''s not only better prepared, she''s smarter then all the ******, trailer trash Republican Scum Bags, and all the other punks that tell lie''s about her.. She''s a survivor, because the People of America are fed up with slugs that make up lies about her.. She will be the Next President, and they will have to live with it.. We had to put up with bush..The worst President in History.
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by remmeler February 8, 2008 5:53 PM PST
I voted for Hillary, but I do like Obama also. There is one thing that the media is very timid to talk about. It has been said once and awhile by media, " I hope it is not the "Bradley Effect". I call it the Harold Ford effect. When Harold Ford was running for the Senate just a few year ago, he was running away with it in the polls. When the election came, he lost. Some people from all walks of life, from all parts of the country will say that they will vote for a black and then not do it. They can rationalize it because of experience but the fact is there. I think, that fact combined with his lack of experience in a real Republican - Democratic national election will be a disadvantage. Also, for the first few months, at least, his White House will be a little more disorganized, like most are when they start. I think Hillary will be ready day one, like she says.
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by someone1700 February 8, 2008 5:58 PM PST
Isn''t it ironic that our country spent almost a trillion dollars and 4000 US lives to kick out a HUSSAIN, just to put another HUSSAIN (Barak Hussain Obama) in the White House?


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by bobacorn February 8, 2008 6:01 PM PST
When I see Hillary on TV pandering to the mindless dupes who attend her robotic campaign stops it makes me want to vomit. I would not vote for "Billary" in a million years. She is willing to say anything to get elected. You can tell she doesnt mean a lick of what she says. She just says what she thinks she has to say to become Queen of America. She holds her finger up in the wind to see which way it is blowing and then she opens her ugly mouth. I can''t even stand the tone of her voice. It makes my ears hurt. You can bet that she wont accomplish jack in the White House. It is not surprising to me to learn that her biggest well of support is to be found among those who didn''t graduate fifth grade, mexicans who dont comprende English, and the wealthy jews who know they own her. BTW-its too bad that they have maxed out their contributions and real people arent stupid enough to give her their hard-earned money so she can waste it on lavish parties, private planes, and the small army of s*x-workers it takes to keep Slick Willy occupied so that he won%u2019t say something stupid in public. Also, Chelsea has a nose bigger than Bills and Hillarys put together, yet her brain is apparently so small she cant even answer a question from a nine-year-old %u201Ckid reporter%u201D for Scholastic News. Who stonewalls a fourth-grade reporter anyway? Well anyway America, please, please don''t make me look at this family for four more years, I cant stand feeling like I%u2019m about to vomit !!!
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by keithepike February 8, 2008 6:06 PM PST
Now you got my attention 60 minutes, i will watch now that your giving equal time,just to see how the questioning goes with each canidate.
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by jwind11 February 8, 2008 6:07 PM PST
jamurphy4s Life:

4 years ago he is angry man, doesn''''''''t know why, just angry. Turns on MTV, sees Sean Penn and Rosie Odonnell bashing someone named George Bush, he remembers that someone named George Bush is President. "Eureka!" he says, that is why I am such an angry man, because Sean Penn and Rosie Odonnell says I should be angry at the President. jamurphy spends next 4 years posting immature angry comments about Bush, blaming him for everything (even the weather). Makes him feel better about himself, easier to misdirect anger than to really do some soul searching to determine where real anger is stemming from.

Fast forward to 2010, Hillary is president, jamurph still angry (and still no health insurance and more taxes out of his check), doesnt know why, turns on MTV, can''''''''t find Sean or Rosie to tell him who to be angry at. Jamurphy gets confused, screams to self "who am i supposed to be angry at now?", gets down on his knees and puts hands towards sky and says "oh saint spicoli saint of all thats angry, help me, tell me who to be angry at now" Sean Penn doesn''''t appear on MTV, he collapses to ground into puddle of tears possible scenarios, has nervous breakdown because confused on why angry or picks up phonebook and finds number to a good counselor.
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by remmeler February 8, 2008 6:11 PM PST
I talked about the "Bradley Effect" or the "Harold Ford Effect", but I was completely surprised by the ignorant comments that have been stated in these posts. They have been proven to be completely untrue about Obama. He is not a Muslim, he did not go to a Madrasa (I probably spelled it wrong). This has been looked into and put to rest, so I thought. I really don''t think that some people should be allowed to vote, they are too ignorant to think for themselves and find out what is right from what is wrong. This is the same thing that happened to McCain in the last primary from George Bush''s people in S.C.
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by shutupnvote February 8, 2008 6:16 PM PST

Agreed and she is tougher than O....


O thinks this is about him ........"We are the ones we''ve been waiting for" is not the DNC in his pocket get ready to rumble.......





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by speakinup February 8, 2008 6:18 PM PST
"I''m better prepared for attacks...


what - she''s gonna have a target painted on her face ?
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by mibwilso February 8, 2008 6:18 PM PST
A vote for Hillary is a vote for John McCain. She will cost us the White House.
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by danstoned February 8, 2008 6:19 PM PST
Clintons now pumping millions of their money into their quest to move back into the White House. Just wait until word gets out that they, as did Mormon Romney are trying to buy their way into power. Obama is gonna kick the Clintons out of the race.

Regarding the "Harold Ford Effect" you failed to mention what lead to the "Harold Ford Effect." It was illegal race baiting by the GOP Religious Party in a racist Southern state. Without this lowly venture by the lower than life GOP Religious Party, Ford would have been the first Black Senator from a racially charged Southern state.
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by scottyusa February 8, 2008 6:29 PM PST
More of the same old ***. When I read the headline I thought she was talking about a terrorists attack and I couldn''t wait ti read about how she would protect us after losing the war. It ends up being about how tough the teary eyed candidate can be. Hogwash. I am voting for McCain.
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by spinster2 February 8, 2008 6:34 PM PST
Come on. Give me a break. Obama''s declaration that running against the Clintons is somehow like the attacks he''s going to get from the republicans is an insult to my intellegence.

Clinton is right, there hasn''t been one single negative ad ran against him and he hasn''t had to answer one single tough question as of yet in this campaign. LOL

The far left has handled him with the same kids gloves that they use on Paris Hilton and the far right has stayed away from him in fear that it would help Hillary. Anybody who says differently is either blind or stupid or both.

NBC has had such a love fest that their reporters have actually said it''s hard to report objectivly when it concerns Obama and Chris Mathews even said you can''t go to one of his rallys and be a true american unless you cry.

On the other hand the democratic officials have moved the convention up until almost the general election in fear of republican attacks and now their faced with with trying to heal the wounds in only two months of the primary. These talking heads are making me dizzy with all their grade school level spinning.
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by spinster2 February 8, 2008 6:41 PM PST
Regarding the "Harold Ford Effect" you failed to mention what lead to the "Harold Ford Effect." It was illegal race baiting by the GOP Religious Party in a racist Southern state. Without this lowly venture by the lower than life GOP Religious Party, Ford would have been the first Black Senator from a racially charged Southern state.

Posted by danstoned
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No offense danstoned but that was spoken like a true far left weenie. The contention that race baiting is somehow illegal or not the norm in politics puts you somewhere between Richard Simmons and Barbra Streisand. It happens all the time, will continue to happen all the time, and is considered the norm. Politics is a contact sport and not for the feint of heart.
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by briannorwood February 8, 2008 6:55 PM PST
After 20+ years of sleaze and slime, it''s not a great commentary for Hillary to say that since she''s had so much negative criticism, this is a good thing.

In my opinion, Hillary has just too much baggage she''s toting along to be a viable general election candidate.

That''s why I''m voting Obama!
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by samthetvcat February 8, 2008 7:00 PM PST
This is the dumbest argument I''ve ever heard - Hillary''s claiming that because she''s more disliked she''s got more experience with negativity therefore she''s more electable? The polls tell a different story . . .

Clinton''s essentially arguing that you embrace the old-style game of dirty politics and then let her duke it out even though Billary''s got a closet full of dirt, mud and skeletons.

Barack''s got an entirely different demeanor operating in a climate which disapproves of old-style politics which is allowing him to dictate a new set of rules for a new 21st century game. Not only can he withstand the mud-slinging of the old-style gameplay, he''s got the ability to reinvent the game, which ultimately makes him more electable because he is more powerful. This is why the polls show him beating McCain . . .
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by claffiteau February 8, 2008 7:01 PM PST
Better prepared for attacks? By Republicans but not Democrats, I guess? Isn''t it a shame Billary does not want Democratic voters in the remaining primaries and caucuses to have any visibility as regards their financial affairsvia their income tax returns.
Could releasing their tax returns expose their wheeling and dealing of political influence for money and or campaign contributions?
Why do the Clinton''s not want to release their income tax returns UNLESS they get the Democratic nomination?
What is in them that they do not want Democratic voters to see until the General Election campaign?
Democrats just need to trust Billary and nominate them, then they will release their income tax returns. No nomination, no tax returns. Trust me there is nothing there that Republicans can use against us. Trust US. Would we lie to you about anything other than Bill''s sexual dalliances?
They must believe that they would lose the support of some Democratic voters if these returns are made public while some Democratic primaries and caucuses are still to be decided.
What other reason would they have for continuing to with-hold their income tax returns until after (they hope) they have been nominated?
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by thisandthat1 February 8, 2008 7:03 PM PST
This sounds like the same paranoia she showed 10 years ago .... the "right wing conspiracy" thing. Very odd!
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by spinster2 February 8, 2008 7:15 PM PST
This is why the polls show him beating McCain . . .

Posted by SamTheTVCat

Obama does better in polls vs McCain because he''s never been personally attacked or his record challenged to any extent which is what Clinton means when she''s been vetted. (she left that for you to figure out)

Obama is probably the first politician in history that hasn''t had a negative ad ran against him by this point in the race and because people just met him the day before yesterday, he still has a squeaky clean record.
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by alanrobisch February 8, 2008 7:18 PM PST
On the other hand the democratic officials have moved the convention up until almost the general election in fear of republican attacks and now their faced with with trying to heal the wounds in only two months of the primary. These talking heads are making me dizzy with all their grade school level spinning.


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Posted by spinster2 at 06:34 PM : Feb 08, 2008

Lets see what was that bill was doing that brought such outrage from his fellow democrats. It was little old race baiting to demean obama. Also maybe he is just a cleaner candidate
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by excoachken February 8, 2008 7:18 PM PST
Her "Right Wing Conspiracy Theory" turned out to be exactly right with two "stolen" elections based on rigged voting machines, hanging chads, disallowed voters, Supreme Court electing the Cowardly Cowboy and the "Swift Boating" of John Kerry. I think she is much better prepared than Barrack, who has yet to feel the wrath of the Rovian Crew from the Dark Side.
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by samthetvcat February 8, 2008 7:19 PM PST
"Better prepared for attacks? By Republicans but not Democrats, I guess?"
Posted by claffiteau

Spot on - the latest is that Billary is trying to control the press by refusing to deal with MSNBC. She''s always dishing it out, but can''t take it. What a phony.

I don''t hesitate to call her on her hypocrisy because all yesterday we had to hear her greasy campaign manager taunting Barack for when he wouldn''t indulge Clinton with weekly debates because he has enough money to campaign in ways which better get his message across . . .

Hillary''s a wimp!
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by gronamox-2009 February 8, 2008 7:22 PM PST
Yes, that is my criteria for electing a president. They can survive attack ads on TV. Who needs attack ads when she has Bill? Obama weathered Bill. Has Hillary lost her mind? Who is she talking to-aliens from the planet zippo? Carl Rove is metaphorically dead so who is the new psychopathic liar on the other side? America hates the Republicans and McCain sounds like Bush: Surge Surge Kill KILL. Obama is the only candidate who has any appeal and any rationality. Hillary is near broke and crazy.
John McCain has a sociopathic temper. It will betray him. He is not fit to lead. I do not understand how anyone came out of Vietnam a hero. He''s lucky he wasn''t fragged given his hateful temperament. Ten years of useless carnage and for absolutely nothing.
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by spinster2 February 8, 2008 7:24 PM PST
Frankly, if the media would get their foot off Clinton''s neck I''m sure she would like to point out that most of Obamas states are red states who don''t have enugh democrats in them to prevail in November.

Another thing I''m sure she would love to point out is the fact that Obama can''t seem to win in the one man, one vote states. His strength is in caucus states where voters can be bullied and manipulated.

Another thing that she would love to point out is that the lions share of states tailor made for Obama are behind him. He has three or for little states comming up where he''s expected to win and it''s uphill all the way after that in states tailor made for her. The big swing states at that, or the ones that matter most. Ohio with one of the largest blue collar populationss and Penn with the second oldest population. That would make a big three trifecta.
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by samthetvcat February 8, 2008 7:25 PM PST
"Obama is probably the first politician in history that hasn''''t had a negative ad ran against him by this point in the race and because people just met him the day before yesterday, he still has a squeaky clean record."
Posted by spinster2

Oh please, that''s like you claiming that you''ve better able to defend yourself against attacks than me because you''re more polarizing and less tolerant than me. Ridiculous!
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by excoachken February 8, 2008 7:25 PM PST
To SamtheTVcat: I thought you comments were very interesting until the last line where you called Hillary a wimp. That made you lose credibility instantly. She may be a lot of things, but definitely NOT a wimp!
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by vltg February 8, 2008 7:25 PM PST
Hillary, Hillary....You have been so abused, excused and recused!!!! We all know you can "give as good as you get", sleaze and all. So that makes you a good presidential wannbee......Not in this house!!!
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by lloydbest1 February 8, 2008 7:26 PM PST
I''m not going to sift thru all the posts before mine so if I say anything someone else has said previously - my apologies.
Neither "Billary" nor Obama are ideal candidates. I happen to like Obama a little better but that''s like saying I prefer cabbage to beets; none too thrilled with either.
Having said that I also say that either one would be a dramatic improvement over who we have now and markedly better than whomever the Republican party is likely to put up as their candidate.
Anyway...My point is we will need to be right on top of whomever we select as the Democratic candidate. They are accountable to us, individually, rather than the special interests (regardless of how sympathetic to some of them I may be) who provide the bulk of their financing. Restoration of our infrastructure and of the middle class; and the reduction of poverty and environmental insult must be high priority items on the agenda of our next, likely Democratic, administration.
We should also spend a thought or two about the folks we sent to DC to represent us in congress. In this new and not-at-all benign world of partisan bickering and political hatchetry (is that a word? It is now) it will do no good to elect a Dem as Chief Executive only to fill the house and senate with more GOP..
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by samthetvcat February 8, 2008 7:28 PM PST
"To SamtheTVcat: I thought you comments were very interesting until the last line where you called Hillary a wimp. That made you lose credibility instantly. She may be a lot of things, but definitely NOT a wimp!"
Posted by exCoachKen

It''s all relative I suppose - like maybe relative to you she''s not a wimp but relative to me and Barack she is . . .
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by spinster2 February 8, 2008 7:29 PM PST
"Obama is probably the first politician in history that hasn''''''''t had a negative ad ran against him by this point in the race and because people just met him the day before yesterday, he still has a squeaky clean record."
Posted by spinster2

Oh please, that''''s like you claiming that you''''ve better able to defend yourself against attacks than me because you''''re more polarizing and less tolerant than me. Ridiculous!


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Posted by SamTheTVCat

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No, what it''s like is calling Obama on Hillary ceiling that he''s always crowing aobut. It''s simply point out that there is also a floor and while she''s at her floor, he can sink much lower.
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by samthetvcat February 8, 2008 7:31 PM PST
"Her "Right Wing Conspiracy Theory" turned out to be exactly right with two "stolen" elections based on rigged voting machines, hanging chads, disallowed voters, Supreme Court electing the Cowardly Cowboy and the "Swift Boating" of John Kerry. I think she is much better prepared than Barrack, who has yet to feel the wrath of the Rovian Crew from the Dark Side."
Posted by exCoachKen

What is this based on? Your ''gut''? Maybe because you tend to be a little bit fearful you aren''t able to see other peoples'' toughness accurately . . .
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