Feb. 6, 2008
Dems Fight To A Draw On Super Tuesday
Obama Wins Majority Of States, But Clinton Holds Slim Lead In Delegate Race
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More Votes, Less Delegates?
Super Tuesday could give Hillary Clinton more votes but leave Barack Obama with more delegates. Jeff Greenfield and Bob Schieffer explain how this works and what's ahead for the Democratic race.
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Women Come Through For Clinton
Political analyst Joe Trippi tells Katie Couric how women voters came through for Hillary Clinton, sealing her wins in New Jersey and Massachusetts.
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Race Gap Widens In South
Anthony Mason analyzes the racial division of voters for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and finds that the divide widens in the southern states.
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The Super Tuesday contests did little to bring the Democratic party closer to identifying a clear front-runner. (AP)
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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton D-N.Y., acknowledges applause from supporters Tuesday, Feb. 5, 2008, in New York. (AP)
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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama D-Ill., and his wife Michelle join together on stage at a Super Tuesday primary rally Tuesday, Feb.. 5, in Chicago. (AP)
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Super Tuesday 2008
Huge chunk of delegates on the line as voters in more than 20 states headed to polls.
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Results Revelry
Candidates address supporters as Super Tuesday results pour in.
The Super Tuesday showdown between Democrats Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama gave both candidates plenty of delegates and plenty of things to brag about, but did little to bring the party closer to identifying a clear front-runner.
Obama won 13 of the 22 states holding Democratic primaries and caucuses, but Clinton won the night's two biggest prizes in New York, where her victory was widely expected, and in California, which polls had shown tightening up in the days leading up to the contest.
Both campaigns had surprises: Clinton, a New York senator, won in Massachusetts despite Obama winning high profile endorsements from Sen. Edward M. Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy, daughter of the late President John F. Kennedy. Obama came away with a victory in Connecticut -- a state in Clinton's backyard -- and also pulled off a close win in Missouri, where late returns put him over the top.
Clinton also scored victories in Arizona, Oklahoma, Tennessee, New Jersey and Arkansas, where her husband, former President Bill Clinton, once served as governor.
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"I want to congratulate Sen. Obama on his victories tonight," she said. "I look forward to continuing our campaign and our debates about how to leave this country better off for the next generation, because that is the work of my life." (Watch Clinton video)
Among Obama's other victories were primaries in Alabama, Georgia, his home state of Illinois, which he represents in the Senate, and the Northeastern state of Delaware -- once viewed, like Connecticut, as a Clinton stronghold. He also won all of the night's caucuses, including those in Alaska, Utah, Idaho, Colorado, North Dakota, Minnesota and Kansas, where he had the endorsement of the state's popular female governor and family roots on his mother's side.
"Our time has come, our movement is real, and change is coming to America," Obama said to cheering supporters in Chicago. "Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." (Watch Obama video)
The only state outstanding was New Mexico, where Obama held a narrow lead over Clinton with some of the vote yet to be counted.
As the breakdown of states suggests, the race for delegates was close. CBS News estimates Obama has won 803 of the night's available delegates, compared to Clinton's 799. Since the race kicked off with the Iowa caucuses Jan. 3, Clinton has won 1,058 delegates and Obama 984. That total factors in the support of superdelegates, the party leaders and elected officials who have a say in the nomination. Clinton leads among that group.
Either candidate could end up ahead in the count by time all Super Tuesday delegates are apportioned. Party rules require a candidate to win 2,025 delegates to secure the nomination. Click here to see the delegate scorecard.
"This race, of course, will be historic because it will produce either the first female or black presidential nominee from a major American political party," CBSNews.com's Dick Meyer wrote in an analysis of the race. "People will also be talking about this campaign for decades to come for its sheer ferocity, closeness and duration -- and its lack of predictability." (Click here to read more of Meyer's analysis.)
CBS News correspondent Peter Maer reports that David Axelrod, Obama's senior adviser, put a positive spin on the night's mixed outcome, saying it defied predictions from earlier in the campaign that the day's voting would wrap up the nomination for Clinton. He expected Obama and Clinton to be "roughly even" in the delegate count once the night's votes were tabulated.
"This was the night that Hillary Clinton announced she was going to close out our campaign and that's hardly happened," Axelrod said. "We're in a strong, strong position coming out of this night."
The calendar for the rest of February does appear to favor Obama, something Clinton's own advisers admitted in a conference call Tuesday before the polls closed. They include contests in Nebraska, the Virgin Islands, Washington and Maine, all of which are caucuses like those Obama swept Tuesday. He also has the advantage in the so-called Chesapeake primary on Feb. 12, when Virginia, Maryland and the District of Columbia vote -- demographically, all three favor Obama. He should also be a favorite in the Feb. 9 primary in Louisiana, which has a high percentage of black voters. Obama also appears to have an edge in Hawaii, where he spent much of his childhood, and Wisconsin.
If Obama performs as well in February as expected, Clinton may have to wait until March 4 to regain the advantage in the delegate count. That day includes primaries in Ohio -- full of blue-collar workers who have traditionally favored her -- and Texas, where a large Hispanic population should give her a boost. Exit polls indicate Hispanics favored her by a 2-to-1 margin Tuesday. (Click here to read more about Super Tuesday exit polls.)
Clinton also led in two key demographics on Super Tuesday that bode well for her campaign in the long haul: women voters and those over 60 years old. CBS News exit polling indicated white women voted for Clinton by a huge margin, 58 percent to 38 percent. Among those older than 60, she won, 55 percent to 38 percent.
Given the close delegate count on Tuesday and the outlook for the upcoming contests, it's possible the race for the Democratic nomination could drag on for months, possibly until the party's convention in Denver.
"It may be all the way to the nominating convention before we know who is going to get the Democratic nomination," CBS News chief Washington correspondent Bob Schieffer said. "It may be one of these old fashioned, which delegation are you going to seat at the convention, and all that kind of business … all those thrilling stories of yesteryear."
Going forward, both Clinton and Obama may increase their focus on the economy. Exit polling showed that nearly half of Democratic voters said the economy was their top priority, and more than 90 percent said they thought it was in bad shape.
According to nationwide early exit polling, nearly half of Democratic voters said the economy was their top priority, and more than 90 percent said they thought the economy was in bad shape.
Just over half, 51 percent, said the ability to bring change was the most important quality in a candidate, with 23 percent citing experience.
Yet those two qualities didn't end up driving Tuesday's results, Schieffer said.
"I think the interesting thing here is we were talking about this being an election about change or about experience, it’s breaking down to be an election about gender and about race," he said. "I think this is not all about what we thought it was going to be about tonight."
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See all 934 CommentsIF their polls are right, then Obama wins in a landslide. period.
Posted by ov442 at 05:28 PM : Feb 05, 2008
And whoever wins the nomination should win the White House fairly easily. Still if it''s Obama or Hillary I hope they have extra security, because I have no doubt that the neocons, esp Di*ck Cheney, will not hesitate to have them killed to keep power.
Good point!
So radiob came up with the idea of a protest vote, and offered the name of his loyal canine companion, Drew Shelt, as a candidate of common protest. I voted for Drew today in the California Democratic primaries.
Many Americans simply cannot in good conscience vote for candidates who voted for the Treason Act, the Torture Act, and the abolition of Habeas corpus. Even if they did give them sweet sounding Orwellian names like the "Patriot Act" and "Military Commissions Act".
And in the end all we were asking for from either Democratic candidate was a simple public pledge to restore our Constitution, and bring all those who have subverted it to justice. Something that in the past would not even have to be asked of any American. This should have been a natural, but it wasn''t.
So I hope the Democratic Party will heed this warning.
Many Independents will no longer follow the Democrats in lock step, and will demand that they execute their primary Constitutional obligation, which is to protect the Constitution itself, at all cost.
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"Our representatives had become politicians, precluding all hope of justice."
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YOU HAVE THE REPUBLICANS BEHIND YOU. JUST LIE UNTIL YOU CAN''T LIE NO MORE!!
YOU HAVE THE REPUBLICANS BEHIND YOU. JUST LIE UNTIL YOU CAN''T LIE NO MORE!!
YOU HAVE THE REPUBLICANS BEHIND YOU. JUST LIE UNTIL YOU CAN''T LIE NO MORE!!
Answer: MikeE812
America has always been a land of immigrants and if people want to come here to live here and contribute here, that''s cool.
But with the potential demise of our economy, we can help free trade for only so long before we have to make it fair again.
And as I paid $200 for a piece of software, made in India (not a Microsoft product), it''s not realistic to say that moving programming jobs offshore equates to lower costs. Amongst other things.
However, if Obama agrees to another debate, I hope someone will ask Hillary the following question:
"Ma''am, your husband''s presidency was marked by scandals running from the salacious to national security, you''ve run a campaign based on race coding, and both you and your husband have scant regard for the truth.
"Personal responsibility is the key to government accountability.
"What could you--or your husband--say to young people, what could you possibly bring to the table, for those who need to hear a message of honesty and integrity?"
Martin Edwin Andersen
Churchton, Maryland
THE HUFFINGTON POST IS REPORTING ...
Democrats
CT: Clinton - 45, Obama - 52.2
IL: Clinton - 29.1, Obama - 69.6
AL: Clinton - 37, Obama - 59.6
DE: Clinton - 41.9, Obama - 55.6
MA: Clinton - 47.3, Obama - 49.8
MO: Clinton - 45.1, Obama - 49.8
TN: Clinton - 51.6, Obama - 41.1
NY: Clinton - 55.6, Obama - 42.2
NJ: Clinton - 47, Obama - 52.2
AR: Clinton - 71.2, Obama - 25.5
OK: Clinton - 60.5, Obama - 30.4
AZ: Clinton - 44.8, Obama - 50.5
1st wave:
NM: Clinton - 45.6, Obama - 51.8
UT: Clinton - 39.9, Obama - 60.1
CA: Clinton - 49.6, Obama - 46.3
Republicans
CA: McCain 40, Romney 35
MA: Romney 54, McCain 32
NJ: McCain 50, Romney 32
NY: McCain 50, Romney 31
MARTIN EDWIN ANDERSEN
The Clinton "scandals" were created by the Republican Party.
If you want scandal look to Bush and his illegal wiretapping, illegal war of aggression, colluding with the oil companies to rob you blind at the pump and his treasonous outing of a covert CIA agent, to only name a few of his crimes.
I didn''t vote for Hillary in the primary and I don''t support her for President but saying she is scandalous while ignoring the crimes committed against freedom and democracy and America by the Republican Party is just ridiculous to the extreme.
(yawn) No one cares about that BS any longer. Give it up.
Hillary loses California!
Posted by CANYOUTELLME
It is pathetic. Things could actually get worse after Bush. It wouldn''t be the first time in history that after the worst, the worst was yet to come. What a divided nation this is.
CT: Clinton - 45, Obama - 52.2
IL: Clinton - 29.1, Obama - 69.6
AL: Clinton - 37, Obama - 59.6
DE: Clinton - 41.9, Obama - 55.6
MA: Clinton - 47.3, Obama - 49.8
MO: Clinton - 45.1, Obama - 49.8
TN: Clinton - 51.6, Obama - 41.1
NY: Clinton - 55.6, Obama - 42.2
NJ: Clinton - 47, Obama - 52.2
AR: Clinton - 71.2, Obama - 25.5
OK: Clinton - 60.5, Obama - 30.4
AZ: Clinton - 44.8, Obama - 50.5
Posted by andersenme
Keep on listening to those far left websites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPev5sEdTjg
Stick a fork in Hillary/Billary/Bill! The imperial family will have a very hard time spinning this defeat.
Yes, I said defeat. The Clintons thought their backroom strategy of front-loading the primaries...all this happened when we weren''t looking...would smaah any opposition.
Surprise! Obama holds off the onslaught and is on a roll.
The more people see him, the more he wins over the hearts and minds of the Democrats.
Meanwhile, the more people see Hillary/Billary/Bill the more they reject them.
Change marches on!
P.S. Get your head out of your a**.
William Gugel
Posted by Spinster2 at 08:59 PM : Feb 05, 2008,,,
Too bad for HillBilly its not winner takes all! The Delegates are split between them and she is winning, but can''t seem to put any significant distance between herself and Sen. Obama. Time is on Obama''s side, the longer no clear winner, it drags on. Many of HillBillys Votes came from early Voting back in January and the campaign has changed significantly since January! Time will tell, but this may be decided at the Convention.
Too bad for HillBilly its not winner takes all! The Delegates are split between them and she is winning, but can''''t seem to put any significant distance between herself and Sen. Obama. Time is on Obama''''s side, the longer no clear winner, it drags on. Many of HillBillys Votes came from early Voting back in January and the campaign has changed significantly since January! Time will tell, but this may be decided at the Convention.
Posted by tbweb at 10:12 PM : Feb 05, 2008
-Good observation tbweb. Obama had my vote today, and I''m hopeful, he''ll make it to the end.
Give it in, Hillary! You are a corporate shill!
Posted by vcharette1 at 10:16 PM : Feb 05, 2008,,,
It''s interesting that you mention the "race" issue because on a 3 person news debate tonight 2 of the panelist claims it was the Clinton''s who introduced "race" and it backfired and blew up in their face, the third panelist disagreed but 2 claim is was done to win the Southern States and Bill did it in Southern code, but who knows, I don''t speak Southern code whatever that is! But any and everyone needs to quit, America looks primitive and continues to embarrass itself on the World Stage claiming Democracy and Freedoms many Americans don''t enjoy!
We need competence and the ability to reach across parties, and corporation, and people!
I think some people forget that we need corporations for our economy. We just need someone that will hold them to reasonableness, and stimulate them to create jobs.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhpKmQCCwB8
"You have to believe in yourself."
"Kindness in thinking creates profoundness."
"From caring comes courage."
Obama ''08!
Her and Bill only care about themselves, how can America buy their BS?
I think the women under 30 are voting for Obama because they think he is cute. This sounds like the Independence Day movie where a bunch of airheads welcomed the alien invaders. The invaders blew them into outer space.
Obama is quite the talker until you start to "really listen" to him and his wife has the "class and graciousness of a slum loard".
That''s pure evil....
You''d think she could have at least memorized it instead of reading it off cue cards. After all, this was "Super Tuesday".
Watch Obama''s speech later. You''ll see why he is clearly the future of the Democratic party.
Her and Bill only care about themselves, how can America buy their BS?
Posted by republic1776 at 11:03 PM : Feb 05, 2008
Right. It''s competely different from the Cheney / Bush regime that care deeply about the middle and lower classes and don''t really care about themselves or their ultra wealthy friends, right?
Was 4 to 1 for Obama. Huge interest, very crowded. Overall, they are saying 2/1 for Obama in colorado, but if my group is any indication, expect Obama to win very very big.
Posted by roxy000
What states are you looking at, roxy????
Obama is winning Lilly White states like Kansas, Idaho, North Dakota and Utah by big margins.
By the way, where were you the last couple of weeks when the Clintons and their slimeball campaign people hinted that people wouldn''t vote for a black man, and that LBJ, not MLK, was the one who got it done?
The nice thing about campaigning against Hillary is that when she goes somewhere to campaign, her poll numbers go down.
In Polling Language, she has the highest negatives of anyone who has ever run for president.
Her main experience in politics is destroying the women who have come forward about Bill Clinton raping/harrassing/doing them.
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