THE HAGUE, Netherlands, Feb. 4, 2008

Dutch TV Airs Aruba Murder "Confession"

Joran Van Der Sloot Maintains His Statements About Natalee Holloway's Murder Were Lies

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      Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries reacts prior to attending a live TV show in Amsterdam, Netherlands, Jan. 31, 2008. Aruban prosecutors said Thursday that authorities are investigating new information in the Natalee Holloway case provided by the Dutch crime reporter.  (AP Photo/Peter Dejong)

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      Natalee Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., disappeared the final night of her high school graduation trip to Aruba in 2005. Holloway was 18 at the time.  (AP (file))

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    Star student Natalee Holloway disappears during a senior trip to Aruba.

(CBS/AP)  Hidden camera footage broadcast in the Netherlands on Sunday showed Dutch student Joran Van der Sloot saying he was with Natalee Holloway when she collapsed on a beach in Aruba. He said he believed she was dead and asked a friend to dump her body in the sea.

"She'll never be found," he said.

A series of conversations between Van der Sloot and a man he believed to be his friend were recorded in a Range Rover that had been rigged with three hidden cameras by Peter R. de Vries, a Dutch television crime reporter. They were shown on Dutch television.

Aruba's public prosecutor said Monday he considers admissible in court the secret camera footage. Prosecutor Hans Mos, however, stressed that it was up to a judge to decide whether suspect Joran van der Sloot should be arrested, based on the footage that was shown on Dutch TV Sunday night.

"I take it very seriously," Most told a press conference on this Dutch Caribbean island. "Finally it is for the judge to decide."

Last week, Van der Sloot said he was lying in those conversations and denied that he had anything to do with the Alabama teenager's disappearance.

When CBS News'The Early Show asked Van der Sloot's attorney Rosemarie Arnold why her client would lie, she said, "I think what he was trying to do is he was trying to gain the friendship of this man who he looked up to for an unknown reason."

Arnold said that the man Van der Sloot identifies as the boat man wasn't in Aruba in 2005 and does not own a boat.

Holloway, 18, vanished in May 2005 just before she was due to fly home to Alabama, at the end of her high school graduation trip to the Caribbean island. No trace of her has been found. The mystery of her disappearance has frustrated authorities and garnered wide attention on television and in tabloid newspapers in Europe and the United States.

In the recordings, Van der Sloot said Holloway was drunk and that she began shaking and slumped down on the beach as the pair were making out.

"Suddenly she started shaking and then she didn't say anything," Van der Sloot said, adding that he did not kill her.

"I would never murder a girl," he said.

He said he panicked and tried but failed to revive her. He said that Holloway looked dead but that he could not be sure she was not still alive when the friend took her away.

He used a pay phone next to a hotel's swimming pool to call the friend and asked for help in disposing the body. When the friend arrived at the beach, the two put Holloway's body into a boat. The friend then took it out to sea and pushed it into the water, Van der Sloot said.

"The ocean is big," he added.

He said he and his friend agreed that Van der Sloot would go to school the next day to avoid arousing any suspicion.

Van der Sloot said his friend assured him he had taken care of Holloway's body and that the police were not going to locate it. "They will know nothing," Van der Sloot quoted the friend as telling him.

"I've not lost any sleep over this," he added at one point.

Aruban prosecutors said last week they were reopening their investigation into Holloway's disappearance after seeing De Vries' material. But on Sunday, they said a judge on the island had ruled that while the information merited an investigation against Van der Sloot, it did not meet the threshold for an arrest warrant.

"This means that the office is legally not able to have J.v.d.S. arrested in the Netherlands," prosecutors said in a statement, referring to the Dutch student by his initials. The statement did not say when the judge made the ruling.

The prosecutors said they would appeal the judge's ruling and seek to have the Dutch student re-arrested. They also cautioned that the Holloway mystery was far from resolved.

"While video tape may present a strong case in a TV news show, it may be insufficient for a finding of guilt by a judge. It is up to the court to evaluate the materials and the statements, and to find out their significance," prosecutors said.

Van der Sloot was interviewed last week by the respected Dutch television show "Pauw & Witteman" following reports that De Vries had captured him making statements about the case.

"It is true I told someone. Everybody will see it Sunday," Van der Sloot said, referring to De Vries' planned television show.

"That is what he wanted to hear, so I told him what he wanted to hear," Van der Sloot said, adding that he had built up a relationship with the man he spoke to, but had never fully trusted him.

De Vries has said he paid the man Van der Sloot spoke to, Patrick van der Eem, $37,000 for his help, saying it was to cover his expenses.

Phone calls seeking comment from Van der Sloot's Aruban attorneys and his New York-based lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, went unanswered Sunday.

Last week, Tacopina told The Associated Press that "the evidence refutes what Joran supposedly said."

"It doesn't change the truth of this case. And the truth is, Joran had nothing to do with Natalee's death," he said.

Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was last seen in public leaving a bar with Van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers - Deepak and Satish Kalpoe - hours before she was due to board a flight home.

The three were re-arrested in November, but released within weeks for lack of evidence. All three have always denied any role in her disappearance.

John Q. Kelly, attorney for Natalee's parents, Dave Holloway and Beth Twitty, say the two are heartbroken.

"Here's a young man that shows just an utter disregard and total disrespect for a young woman who's missing, for a family who's lost their daughter, to his own family, to law enforcement, to the criminal justice system, to his country and everybody," Kelly told The Early Show.

The Dutch student's father, Paul Van der Sloot, declined to comment when reached in Aruba before the tape aired.

De Vries also aired images of Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty, as he showed her the footage.

Clasping together her hands, she moved her lips silently as she watched the images.

"They could have just dumped her alive in the ocean, unconscious," she said. "They don't even know."

"I hope his living hell is about to begin and that he never gets another night's sleep," she added.

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by mythoughtsr February 3, 2008 10:42 PM PST
My goodness, that girl could have been alive. He never lost sleep over it? What lack of humanity in this world. That poor mother. God bless them all.
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by sandycat2 February 3, 2008 10:53 PM PST
We know Van der Sloot is a liar. If Natalie had an attack of some kind and died or went into a coma and he didn''t do anything to her as he said, then why didn''t he call an ambulance to take her to a hospital? Perhaps the real truth is he gave her a date rape drug and that is why he didn''t call an ambulance becaus ehe knew he would be charged with her death. This kids has no conscience and is scum.
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by tbweb February 3, 2008 11:36 PM PST
Joran Van der Sloot should be extradited to the United States so he can receive the fair trial he deserves! We know what to do with him!
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by libsluvsuvs February 3, 2008 11:44 PM PST
yeah he is guilty..THEN WHAT??? why dont we ask those bleeding heart liberals what they want to do with this piece of dutch dung
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by awoloilman February 4, 2008 12:30 AM PST
"All right Goldmember. Don''t play the laughing boy. There''s only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people''s cultures and the Dutch."
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by brianp55 February 4, 2008 1:21 AM PST
He gave her a date rape drug and it killed her.
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by closethippy1 February 4, 2008 3:40 AM PST
He gave her a date rape drug and it killed her.
Posted by brianp55 at 01:21 AM : Feb 04, 2008

So far this is the best theory I''ve heard about this case. Those kind of drugs are easily found in third world coutries especially by someone coming from Holland.
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by maessen February 4, 2008 3:59 AM PST
I am Dutch and can read between the lines of what''s been said in the footage.

He is clearly lying about the part where he speaks about disposing of the body.

I would not be surprized if he swam her out. That is why he lost his shoes. It is difficult to swim with shoes. That friend could prove to be imaginary or maybe his father that he made to clear was sleeping at the time. Since when don''t people like him cary a cell phone and have to use a payphone? Because the phonecall to his friend never took place. It is all him. He was drunk and maybe used drugs and made a bad call.

He is planning to make money off this and get a compensation for false arrest too.

If the law can''t take him I hope somebody stands up that wants to do something. But I think her family already did. If I was him I would ask to be in prison,

In the Netherlands he can not show his face anymore. People here hate his guts. I hope he burns forever.
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by martijn31 February 4, 2008 4:21 AM PST
Hi there people, Just wanne say that i hope that j. v/d Sloot wil get the retribution he deserve.

ONE THING :

There are a lot of people insinuate that all Dutch people called accountable for the deed of one man ? that would be the same when i would say that all the U.S inhabitant are responsible for president Bush his action''s against Iraq ?.. thats what the called generalize !

Thanks,

Martijn de Neve
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by eindhoven1 February 4, 2008 4:26 AM PST
It is shocking how heartless he speaks about what has happened. In the Netherlands someone''s innocent until proven guilty. This is the basis of a civilized society but in this case difficult to accept as he can deny everything (he said in the hidden camera) as there is no prove (body) of a crime.

It is clear he knows more than he wants to admit. If he was innocent he might have been able to save her life and he wouldn''t have to lie.
This guy is so egocentric. In the Netherlands we watch the world and its inhabitants critically but we should look as well in the mirror. Society is harshening and that happens everywhere. The demand for compensation money says it all...

1 request: do not blame all Dutch for what 1 spoilt loser did...
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by terrorislam6 February 4, 2008 6:42 AM PST
are the dutch waking up to retarded radical fascist nazi terrorislamic jihadist slavers and murderers???

Dutch Politician: Islamic Culture Is ''Retarded''

Dutch Politician Plans to Air Film Criticizing the Koran

A Dutch politician known for his views against Islam plans to air a film he produced that is critical of the Koran, which he likens to Adolf Hitler''s hateful writings.

Parliamentarian Geert Wilders spoke to FOX News about the documentary, insisting the Muslim holy book is dangerous and should be banned.

"I believe the Koran is, indeed, ''Mein Kampf.'' They are the same package," Wilders said. "I believe that our culture is far better than the retarded Islamic culture."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325305,00.html

Dutch Braced For ''Koran Insult'' Backlash

If I insult you, am I responsible for your violence?

It''s a question being debated in the Netherlands this week as Dutch embassies around the world beef up their security ahead of the release of a film on the internet which allegedly insults the Koran. It''s reported to show the Koran being torn up and otherwise desecrated.
http://martinstanford.typepad.com/foreign_matters/2008/01/dutch-braced-fo.html
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by newsdream February 4, 2008 7:54 AM PST
Unfortunately, people who are innocent confess all of the time. Granted, they''re generally not the most brillant individuals but there are a myriad of reasons why this happens. Before I saw his attorney''s explanation, I understood he was likely bragging and trying to look like a big man. Her parents? They''re PARTIALLY to blame for sending an 18 year old to a foreign country without adequate chaperoning and for raising a brazen hussy who didn''t stay with her group. The public is not pining over this young girl; we didn''t know her and there''s nothing about her that would make us wish we''d known her - she was not attractive and her actions suggest she wasn''t very wise. That said, I regret any time someone''s life is cut short, even if through their own stupidity.
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by brianbwb-2009 February 4, 2008 8:21 AM PST
van der Sloot is lying during parts of the confession. He looks down and away from Patrick as the lies come out. The friend Daury was in Holland in school at the time of the murder, when v.d.S. says his name, he looks down and away from Patrick. Someone else helped him dump the body. Paulus helped him escape the police, and may possibly have helped dispose of the body.

His absolute lack of remorse is reminiscent of a certain cut and paster on this thread, one gets the feeling v.d.S enjoyed causing the death of this young girl, and is enjoying his evasion of justice.

We can only hope his enjoyment is very short lived...
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by brianbwb-2009 February 4, 2008 8:26 AM PST
"1 request: do not blame all Dutch for what 1 spoilt loser did..." Posted by Eindhoven1

Sound logic, but as you should know by now, Americans like to blame whole countries, or ethnicities, or religions for the actions of a few, they can''t help it, it is the lack of quality education...
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by brianbwb-2009 February 4, 2008 8:32 AM PST
It is ironic that because of the actions of from one to three people, coupled with the perceived lack of interest by a corrupt police and justice system, the entire island of Aruba will suffer a drop in tourism, from which it may never recover.

Even if J.v.d.S is finally caught, the perception of a corrupt justice system will remain.
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by tomanyt February 4, 2008 9:09 AM PST
And what does this "confession" prove? Nothing...
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by tomanyt February 4, 2008 9:11 AM PST
Newsdream..."They''''re PARTIALLY to blame for sending an 18 year old to a foreign country without adequate chaperoning and for raising a brazen hussy who didn''''t stay with her group." At what age should parents allow the "children" to off on a trip by themselves????? And exactly how did you come to the conclusion that she is a "brazen hussy...."?
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by ladyjaneg February 4, 2008 9:13 AM PST
1 request: do not blame all Dutch for what 1 spoilt loser did..." Posted by Eindhoven1

Sound logic, but as you should know by now, Americans like to blame whole countries, or ethnicities, or religions for the actions of a few... posted by brianbwb at 08:26 AM : Feb 04, 2008

I''d just like to thank you for saying that, I agree that there are a lot of people who judge an entire race or religion based on the actions of a few, and refuse to look any further. It is incredibly frustrating and just wrong. :)
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by ladyjaneg February 4, 2008 9:14 AM PST
And just to clarify, I''m not saying ANYTHING bad against Americans, in fact for the most part, all of the Americans I have met are very polite, considerate people, and wonderful neighbours to the south!! :D
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by lawbster February 4, 2008 9:16 AM PST
watch the show and be prepared to be shocked. rosemary and her apologist boss tacopina should be ashamed.
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by rational_1 February 4, 2008 10:20 AM PST
Unfortunately, people who are innocent confess all of the time....
Her parents? They''''re PARTIALLY to blame for sending an 18 year old to a foreign country without adequate chaperoning and for raising a brazen hussy who didn''''t stay with her group.
Posted by Newsdream at 07:54 AM : Feb 04, 2008

Man you''re a real piece of work. I saw his confession in the car - no coercion went on. If he really didn''t do it and said what he said in that car then he is the biggest moron ever born. Now about your "brazen hussy" remark. What, you ticked off she wasn''t wearing a burqua? Unbelievable. The girl gets murdered and you blame her and play apologist for the killer. Nice, real nice.
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by killtheliars February 4, 2008 10:25 AM PST
Her classmates stated she was doing coke earlier. If she overdosed that is not the kids fault if he didn''t supply her with drugs. He probably panicked and got rid of the body. Siounds like pure bad luck
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by killtheliars February 4, 2008 10:35 AM PST
To those of you saying tourism to Aruba will suffer you are wrong. It is a great place with great people. A group of us are plannig a trip there in October, cannot wait.
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by radiob-2009 February 4, 2008 10:36 AM PST
Posted by killtheliars at 10:25 AM

Hmmm dumping a body of someone that you do not know if they are alive or dead is wrong.
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by mikefrmd February 4, 2008 10:49 AM PST
Posted by killtheliars at 10:25 AM

Unbelieveable...he makes a confession on tape calls her a *** and your here defending him.

He basically admits to raping her and dumping her body and all is fine with you.

You don''t dispose of a body if you have nothing unless its to hide soemthing such as date rape drugs and signs of trauma and rape.
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by talkingham February 4, 2008 10:49 AM PST
Evidently in Aruba you have to have actual video of someone disposing of a body to get a conviction.

Urine der Sloot has lied every step of the way in the investigation - especially in his implication of the black security guards at the hotel. He lied when he said they returned her to the hotel. The lying brat was known to have given date rape drugs to women before.

I guarantee you in my home town if there is video of 3 men leaving with a woman and she is never seen again there wuold be no problem in convicting the liars of what they had done.

I don''t completely exonerate the girl''s parents either. This was not a school sponsored trip. It was a bunch of high school coaches taking "kids" down to an island for a profit where they could get drunk and do who knows what. That however, does not excuse Urine''s lies.

You have video of 3 men leaving with a young woman and she is never seen again. Open and shut case where these liars should be kept in a prison rather than a friendly local lock-up jail until one of them breaks down and finally tells the truth.

If this liar truly has not lost any sleep over this then he will kill again. It''s absurd he would lie about disposing a body just to gain the friendship of an "older man?" How weird is this liar?
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by wrman27 February 4, 2008 10:50 AM PST
His U.S. lawyer says he never admitted to a crime. Not reporting a death is a crime even in Aruba if I''m not mistaken. Abuse of a corpse would be another for dumping/helping dump her body. But this guy killed poor Natalee one way or another. I say let Beth decide his punishment!!!!! R.I.P. Natalee Holloway and May God Watch over You!!!
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by gwtwboofy February 4, 2008 11:04 AM PST
Obviously, Joran Van der Sloot had something to do with this poor girl''s death, be it murder outright or by a date rape drug. At the very least he should be charged with tampering with evidence and degradation of a corpse. But as he is a diplomat''s child, he''s getting off scot-free. He and Daddy are hiding the truth. This is not the people of Aruba''s fault nor is it the fault of the Dutch. Its the fault of an arrogant, rich little scumbag and his conniving father. I say send the little *** to Alabama and let them give him what he deserves. People in the South don''t put up with this BS. Hang his lying, murdering *** from a tall tree with a short piece of rope...if he''s lucky, that is all he''d get.
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by wrman27 February 4, 2008 11:13 AM PST
He''s just stating what everyone knows but some won''t admit to. Plus this guy isn''t a U.S. citizen. Who cares what is done to him!!!!
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by killtheliars February 4, 2008 11:17 AM PST
MikefrMd,

Im not really defending him, and i didn''t see anything about rape, it sounds more like it was consensual. He may be a jerk, but my point is he hooks up with a girl he does not really know. If she was doing coke that night and overdosed how is that his fault. sure he should have called the police but he was probably scared. In todays world anytime something like this happens everyone assumes the guy had something to do with it.-
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by tomanyt February 4, 2008 11:18 AM PST
Why brings this up again. This is old news. The authorities knew about this tape a long time ago.
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by wrman27 February 4, 2008 11:20 AM PST
"Why brings this up again. This is old news. The authorities knew about this tape a long time ago."

Posted by tomanyt at 11:18 AM : Feb 04, 2008

Not that long ago since it was done in January.
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by smiley676 February 4, 2008 11:41 AM PST
He''''s just stating what everyone knows but some won''''t admit to. Plus this guy isn''''t a U.S. citizen. Who cares what is done to him!!!!


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Posted by wrman27

You should be ashamed of yourself.

I don''t think anyone should jump to the rape conclusion.

An admission like this certainly points to guilt. But notice, he never said he killed her. He said she died and he didn''t know why.

Hiding a dead body (that you didn''t kill) isn''t the worst thing someone could do. And in the "heat of the moment" he probably wasn''t thinking clearly. After that he was scared.

Or he is just cold-blooded. Either way, no rape. And no admission of murder.
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by oeangus February 4, 2008 11:45 AM PST
Obviously, Joran Van der Sloot had something to do with this poor girl''''s death, be it murder outright or by a date rape drug - Posted by gwtwboofy

Uh-huh, and OBVIOUSLY you haven''t got a clue what happened, just like everyone else. Do society a favor: don''t ever apply for work as a trial judge.
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by tomanyt February 4, 2008 11:56 AM PST
If he dumped the body at sea, where is the body?
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by zootallures2 February 4, 2008 12:14 PM PST
Amazing how there is always a friend around to help you with a dead body, but never for something normal...
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by rushlimpdrug February 4, 2008 12:21 PM PST

To those of you saying tourism to Aruba will suffer you are wrong. It is a great place with great people. A group of us are plannig a trip there in October, cannot wait.
Posted by killtheliars at 10:35 AM

1. You''re stupid.
2. The tourism industry there has probably been worried about this for sometime.
2. A very large group of people I know have scratched Aruba as a vacation destination. Whether it is right or wrong they have done it. Nothing great about the island anyway.
3. I myself know of plenty of other more worthwile places to visit.
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by Krazcarl February 4, 2008 12:24 PM PST
Anyone that has ever told a lie KNOWS he''s lieing. The lie is stupid what is he trying to cover. A drunk girl collapse you call an ambulance you don''t dump her in the ocean he had a hand in her demize that is the only reason to dump her in the ocean either he supplied the drugs or was way to frisky. He was covering his tracks....Obviously...
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by smiley676 February 4, 2008 12:36 PM PST
....Obviously...


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Posted by crzmeat

Right, obviously. ...Do you know anything about him or her?
Why would he lie to this guy? They were "friends." This isn''t a story he is telling to the police. In fact, if he were going to lie, why wouldn''t he just stick with the previous story?

I don''t think we should jump to conclusions.
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by random_radar February 4, 2008 12:42 PM PST
If you have money and connections, you never have to suffer for anything you do. The rich can get away with murder.
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by nyckate February 4, 2008 12:58 PM PST
Nah - not buying it - sounds like he was busting the guys chops - asked once too many about an incident and he fabricated a story just to get the guy off his back.

Hey - anyone hear that Natalee''s momma dumped husband #2 to hook with wealthy father of that little girl from the beauty pageants who was killed?? Apparently looking for Natalee wasn''t all mom was looking for.
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by thgdriver February 4, 2008 1:29 PM PST
If you have money and connections, you never have to suffer for anything you do. The rich can get away with murder.

Posted by random_radar

Ted Kennedy is a good example of that.
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by thgdriver February 4, 2008 1:36 PM PST
nyckate

Buy it or not, fact is he said it. Fact is a judge will decide to admit it as evidence. As Ricky would say to Lucy, he has some splanin to do.

He was caught in more then one or two lies. I always thought she was a tease and it all want too far. I think he may have accidentally killed her during forced sexx or rough sexx. Up to this point he was the last one "known" to have seen her alive. Thats pretty dammingg.
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by mrvolleyba11 February 4, 2008 2:13 PM PST
who in their right mind is going to make this up to impress a friend or a way-be friend? Maybe if he was in prison to act tough to keep from getting raped but nobody could be stupid enough to make incriminating remarks such as this just to impress someone! as Shania Twain Sings... "that don''t impress me much"!!!

but you also got to remember this is not the US legal system so who know if it can even be used in court???
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by azmka February 4, 2008 2:16 PM PST
If his recorded comments are true, why in the world did he opt to dump her, possibly alive, instead of calling 911. If he had nothing to do with it he would not have been in trouble.
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by chrisl45 February 4, 2008 2:28 PM PST
Oh, my god, this nut took advantage of a girl who came from a historical racist state, so took advantage of her. I hope he gets what he deserves.
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by chrisl45 February 4, 2008 2:28 PM PST
Oh, my god, this nut took advantage of a girl who came from a historical racist state, so took advantage of her. I hope he gets what he deserves.
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by mikefrmd February 4, 2008 2:38 PM PST
"MikefrMd,

Im not really defending him, and i didn''''t see anything about rape, it sounds more like it was consensual. He may be a jerk, but my point is he hooks up with a girl he does not really know. If she was doing coke that night and overdosed how is that his fault. sure he should have called the police but he was probably scared. In todays world anytime something like this happens everyone assumes the guy had something to do with it.- "

Don''t buy it.

He disposed of the body or should I say its more likely his father disposed of her body for a reason. He didn''t want the GHB being found or possible trauma to her body. If one does nothing wrong why dispose of the evidence, allow 2 completely innocent security gaurds get arrested, lie on numerous occasions to the police?

Remember the Greta interview where he stated that he had done this 20 times without issues?

And if you pass out and die during what he calls *** how can you be in a position to concent?

BTW where is your proof she ever did coke?

This is the first I have heard of it

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by rudy654-2009 February 4, 2008 3:05 PM PST
Guilty! This is like when OJ did the book on how he would have done it, if he did it. Sorry, but murder is a serious allegation and people don''t play with thoughts of how they MIGHT have done it, especially when they are a suspect. This fool knew that he might well find this guy as a witness against him someday and he still took the chance to tell him a story, because he was and is wrestling with a guilty conscience.
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by byeneocons February 4, 2008 3:17 PM PST
What goes around comes around. He''s a walking dead man.
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