Clinton, Obama Debate, But Play Nice

Cordial, One-On-One Exchange Comes Five Days Before Super Tuesday Contests

(CBS/AP)  Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton sparred, for the most part cordially, over immigration, health care and the war in Iraq in their first one-on-one debate on Thursday as they faced high-stakes Super Tuesday primaries and caucuses that could go a long way toward determining the party's presidential nominee.

Clinton emphasized that the nation needed a president ready to go to work on "Day One." Obama responded: "Senator Clinton, I think fairly, has claimed that she's got the experience on Day One. And part of the argument that I'm making in this campaign is that it is important to be right on Day One."

Just five days before Super Tuesday, the two alternated between addressing each other with civility and pointed swipes, underscoring the importance of the upcoming contests. The debate came on the day Obama's campaign reported raising a staggering $32 million in January, cash aplenty to advertise all through the nearly two dozen upcoming races from coast to coast - and contests beyond.

Clinton's campaign reported raising $26.8 million from October through December, the most recent period that she reported.

Clinton defended the increasingly high-profile role of her husband, former President Clinton, in her campaign and his recent sharp criticism of Obama.

Responding to a question on how could she control him in the White House if she couldn't on the campaign trail, Clinton said, "At the end of the day, it's my name that's on the ballot ... It's a lonely job in the White House."

Both candidates were asked about the possibility of a "dream ticket" of Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton.

"Obviously there's a big difference between those two," Obama said. "I respect Senator Clinton, I think her service to this country is extraordinary." But he said, "We've got a lot more road to travel" before such a decision.

Clinton agreed it was too early to discuss.

Making amends for his apparent snub of her at Monday's State of the Union Address, Obama assisted Clinton by pulling back her chair both as the debate, televised on CNN, began and ended. They then embraced.

But it wasn't all sweetness and light.

One of their most pointed exchanges came on the subject of whether illegal immigrants should be able to obtain driver's licenses. Obama supports doing so while Clinton initially supported it and now opposes it.

"Senator Clinton gave a number of different answers over the course of six weeks on this," Obama said, turning to Clinton. "Initially, you said you were for it, then you said you were against it." He said he was raising her apparent wavering to underscore that it is "a difficult political issue."

Clinton called the controversy "a diversion" from efforts to come up with comprehensive immigration reform. "I sponsored immigration reform before Barack came to the Senate," she said.

Obama argued for his candidacy, saying, "I respect Senator Clinton's record. I think it's a terrific record. But I also believe that the skills that I have are the ones that are needed right now to move the country forward, otherwise I wouldn't be running for president."

They also clashed on Iraq.

Clinton suggested only she had "the necessary credentials and gravitas" to lead the country in withdrawing from Iraq without endangering U.S. forces or further destabilizing the area. She said it was crucial to bring Syria and Iran to the diplomatic table.

Obama shot back, "Senator Clinton mentioned the issue of gravitas and judgment. I think it is much easier for us to have the argument when we have a nominee who says `I always thought this was a bad idea. This was a bad strategy.' It was not just a problem of execution."

Clinton voted in October 2002 to authorize President Bush to use force in Iraq, while Obama opposed such authority in a speech he gave in 2002 while he was a member of the Illinois state Senate.

"After a few weeks of bitter fighting, toinight was a genteel display of small but important differences," said CBSNews.com Senior Political Editor Vaughn Ververs. "The name of the game right now is addition, not division and you saw both candidates try to appeal to a very broad number of voters. Both expressed a firm grasp of details and issues which probably benefits Obama most. But we are headed into a house-by-house fight for individual delegates and it is beginning to look a lot like tonight's debate — a draw."

The two also reached out quickly to backers of former rival John Edwards, who bowed out of the race Wednesday without endorsing either one. Both praised his efforts in their opening statements.

Obama called Edwards "a voice for this party and this country for many years to come." Clinton saluted both Edwards and his wife, Elizabeth, as setting "their personal example of courage and leadership" in their advocacy for the poor.

Clinton drew rounds of laughter in the Kodak Theatre - home of the Academy Awards - when she asked whether it was good for the country to have another Clinton in the White House, further extending Bush and Clinton family control over government. "It did take a Clinton to clean after the first Bush and I think it might take another one to clean up after the second Bush," she said.

Befitting a Hollywood audience, among the stars in the theater were Diane Keaton, Jason Alexander, Pierce Brosnan, Rob Reiner, Stevie Wonder, Kate Capshaw, Leonardo DiCaprio, Bradley Whitford and Gary Shandling.

[henrry-2009]

Its sad that some people here are just not being ralistic about the facts...Obama really impressed me tonihgt. Im a Jhon Edwards supporter who now will shift my vote to Borach Obama. Hillary looked angry and out of tuch with ordanary people...They mention that obama was getting most of the upper class democrats, I tell you he just got my working class vote. He seems so much presidential. Im sorry Hillary also lost my vote. The real truth is that Obama is not there beacuse of the Black vote people...He received 93% of the white vote in IOWA and in SC he also received the white vote among more smarter whites and more financial stable whites...He won every county in SC and I know pople are smart to know that theres no only one white county in South carolina. Further more my sisters two very white female who were voting for Hillary are now voting for Obama. My cousin who lives in SC a white elderly lady attended the Obama Rally in ColumbiA, SC and she saw tons a white faces..Lets be real and accept that fact that times are changing.

[kansas1946]

Obama is behind in the polls in delegate-rich California and most of the states voting Feb. 5, including New York and New Jersey, where Clinton is hoping to score valuable victories.

The black vote isn%u201Dt going to cut it this time.


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Posted by trapbreak at 08:51 PM : Jan 31, 2008
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The polls had John Kerry with a significant lead nationally a week before the 2004 election. As far as Obama and polls, a huge number of his supporters are young and rarly get included in polls. The Democrats should be proud of the quality of candidates they had this time around. All most all of the candidates that dropped out so far were far superior to anything that the Republicans had or still have. This is a grand year for Democrats. They should enjoy it.

[tylenol6]

Please google: Who would the world choose as President
of the United States?

[ontheleft]

Looks like Clinton is going to clinch it. It''s unreal that the matchup winds up being McCain-Clinton, just as predicted last year before the race even began. It''s like the last 12 months have been a waste of everyone''s time and we wind up with two candidates that aren''t even liked by the majority of their respective parties.

What''s next? A strong independent candidate is going to enter the race in response to a Clinton-McCain matchup. Could be Bloomberg.

[buddhabman]

A very civil debate. Both clarified their policies. I don''t think anyone stepped on the other. So it''s still going to be tight at Super Tuesday. It''s just a decision of do you look forward or look backward.

Obama 08

[lhwrites]

To Kansas1946:
The polls never had John Kerry beating Bush. He was always about 2% points behind and that''s about what he lost by. I followed them closely at the time and those polls were accurate.

[lhwrites]

To Kansas1946:
The polls never had John Kerry beating Bush. He was always about 2% points behind and that''s about what he lost by. I followed them closely at the time and those polls were accurate.

[pepperp1]

I am thinking Clinton Romney McCain did not do well last night. Clinton did great and for Obama this was his best debate, and Liberals Bloggers are turning in to Ron Paul wing nuts or maybe they always have been the same bizzare.

[sbnilsson]

s a European following American politics and once an admirer of Bill Clinton (he was a good president) I am very disappointed of the development during the last month of the campaign. Until the middle of December we have seen a remarkable clean campaign, from all democratic candidates. But since then it has been awful - and it4s the Clinton campaign which is to blame...

Hillary and Bill have baffled me with their negativity. Hillary has talked more and more about why Obama should not become president while Obama has tried to continue to talk about why he believes he is best candidate. Hillary (and Bill) has been delivering increasingly aggressive and untrue, accusations.

Personally I believe Barack Obama would be a really transforming president, with an incomparable potential to change the view of USA in the world. I also think he would create more unity in USA than any other candidate could and (as a consecuence) deliver a lot of important reforms concerning, for example, health care and energy independence and also improve the economy.

The last three weeks have shown what USA would get too much of in a new Clinton presidency - political spinn and a lot of dishonesty. USA need a person with the right character for these difficult times. I believe Barack Obama is that person.

[sbnilsson]

Obama explained his political proposals well in this debate. Furthermore, he made the case for why an Obama would mean a fresh start.

[andersenme]

Barack Obama''s questioning of the relevance of Hillary Clinton''s type of "experience" in confronting the new challenges the United States faces receives validation from an interesting case in American history.

It also points to why Obama''s outsider status might actually be just what is needed to successfully restore the U.S. to international political creditworthiness.

Lincoln biographer David Herbert Donald showed how what might have been perceived as the Great Emancipator''s serious shortcomings as a war president and commander in chief actually turned out to be some of his greatest assets.

Remember, Lincoln came to the presidency having only meager experience--much less than Sen. Obama''s--in public office, let alone experience in the Executive Branch. (Lincoln''s experience in the military was limited to little more than two months service during the Black Hawk War.)

According to Donald, Lincoln was also fortunately unburdened by convention, precedent, and standard operating procedures in facing war''s challenge. (The parallels with Obama kind of leap from the page, no?)

However, Lincoln was also a quick study who grew into greatness through trial and error in pursuing the most significant of his goals.

Martin Edwin Andersen
Churchton, Maryland

[spinster2]

We watched a very civil debate tonight and as much as the media has tried to drum up racial slurs and dirty tricks, both campaigns have been relativly clean as compared to the republicans.

I thought that Obama made a clear distinction of his stance on the war and got the better of Hillary on that particular issue. It looks all the much better at primary time but it won''t be any advantage in a general election.

Also, much has been made of Obama and independants but as near as I can tell, the largest majority of his people are actually the far left with Kennedy, Durbin,Kerry, Kucinich, ect. Obama''s voting record is actually to the left of Kucinich''s which is a negative in a general election.

I also noticed that democrats repeatedly talk about tax cuts for the rich or rolling them back but extremely mum on spending which is what has the dollar spinning down hill and the real problem with our economy.

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by andersenme at 11:21 PM : Jan 31, 2008

Well, if you want to compare Obama to the first republican president who stepped all over the Constitution by suspending habaes corpus, commited war on states that seceded peacefully from the United States, raped and pillaged their land, and in the third year decided he needed an excuse to do so, decided to write the great Imancipation Declaration to free the slaves, but saying this did not mean they were equal, and then was assassinated, go ahead.

Stuff like that happens when inexperienced and unknown politicians go to our White House.

Obama has not a CLUE about being this country''s president!!!!

[spinster2]

Since when did a senator become an outsider status? Am I missing something? That distinction is reserved for governors, not senators. Maybe it''s because he hob nobs with the Kennedy''s, *** Derbin, John Kerry, and the rest for the liberal establishment. Is that how he got his outsider status? Perhaps it''s just a figment of our imagination.

[gunownerdan]

Both Hillary and Barack say law-abiding citizens cannot be trusted to own common handguns, shotguns, and rifles. Meanwhile they are both constantly surrounded by armed guards carrying fully automatic MACHINE GUNS.

"Tyrants mistrust the people, hence they deprive them of arms."
- Aristotle (384-322 B.C.)

"To disarm the people is the most effective way to enslave them."
- George Mason

"Tyrants from Hitler to Mao to Stalin have sought to disarm their own citizens, for the simple reason that unarmed people are easier to control. Our Founders, having just expelled the British army, knew that the right to bear arms serves as the guardian of every other right. This is the principle so often ignored by both sides in the gun control debate. Only armed citizens can resist tyrannical government."
-- Congressman Ron Paul, June 26, 2006

Congress has the lowest approval rating it has ever had in history, much less than George W. Bush''s approval rating yet Hillary and Barack came right from the senate. Plus, they are both members of the "Council on Foreign Relations"(CFR) just like Bush, McCain, Romney, and Huckabee.
WILL AMERICANS WAKE UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE???????

[mab2008]

I thought Hillary had a great presence and command. She is so knowledgeable on the issues and ready to be President on day 1.

[spinster2]

Hey guys, you can go to ebay and bid on Hillary Clinton''s soul. They have somehow captured it in a mason jar.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270207275041

[henrry-2009]

Wow!!! I was blown away by Obama Charecter he is so eloquent. He spoke and acted like a president. I will know support Borack Obama. I was a huge Jonh supporter. The reason I decided to support Obama is because I did not like the answer Hillary gave when the issue of the Iraq War came up..She was dancing around that issue too much with no clear answer. Shame on her, no respect for our troops..As a hardocore democrat I stand with Obama because he said no to the war from the start.

[feelfree1]

Did Chevron donate any of the "human energy" that they gathered from their kickbacks from Saddam, their amazing profits from the war (oil prices), or their raping and torture campaign in Burma, to the campaign coffers of either of these candidates?

[jamurphy4]

Hillary won the Debate, and will clean up on Super Tuesday.. She will get the Mich. & FL. delegates, and end up winning the National Election.. We need a President that can lead the Nation, not a Youth Center in downtown Chicago.. Obama should get on board as a V.P. .. That''s his only chance to become a President after Hillary''s 8 years..

[feelfree1]

jamurphy4 at 11:41 PM,

That''s pretty bleak.

[croft777]

SBNilsson
s a European following American politics and once an admirer of Bill Clinton (he was a good president) I am very disappointed of the development during the last month of the campaign.

Obviously you have not been following it very well. The Clintons did not start the race card game for one. Why would they? Think about it, that would take away Hillarys votes from the African Americans. Shes not that stupid. But as I''m sure you saw, she lost the votes. Why, because Obamas camp started pointing the finger at her when she said that Johnson helped to make MLK''s dream come true. Yes, he was the voice, but if it wasn''t for the President he would have been doing his speeches on civil rights without any progress taking place.Clinton did not bash MLK she was stating that it took team work to make that happen, I''d say thats talking about uniting, not dividing. Obama knew what he was doing, he knew that half the population in South Carolina was Africvan American. It was to his advantage, not to Clintons.If anyone has been doing the accusing it is the Obama camp. Another thing, why would Obama bring up about the republican party as being the party of ideas for the last 10 to 15 years, then turning around and saying that he didn''t say he agreed with them, but he didn''t didn''t say didn''t either. Why bring it up then? Whats the point of that. Sounds like a bunch of jibber jabber to me, a version of the Bush administration.

[feelfree1]

Nader might run again.

I sure hope so.

Then I''d have a real choice.

[paris1969]

I had not made my decision on who to vote for until tonight. I like both candidates, but I feel that Hillary Clinton was so poised and focused and looked so %u201Cpresidential%u201D that I have decided to give her my vote. I especially resonated to her words regarding the Iraq war and getting Iran and Syria to the diplomatic table. So, I guess I am a %u201CClinton-ista%u201D for sure!!

[radiob-2009]

Wonder who they will blame come November when neither win and McCain does?

[andersenme]

The question that should have been asked of Hillary is this ...

"Ma''am, your husband''s presidency was marked by scandals running from the salacious to national security, you''ve run a campaign based on race coding, and both you and your husband have scant regard for the truth. What could you possibly say to young people who need to hear a message of honesty and integrity, as personal responsibility is the cornerstone of government accountability?"

Martin Edwin Andersen
Churchton, Maryland

[radiob-2009]

Posted by nmrosen at 11:47 PM

Lay off of the anti depressants you are way to happy with these choices and it will only lead to greater depression when neither win in November.

[feelfree1]

nmrosen,

Are you leaning towards the Democrats in this contest?

[bdrlnt4rl]

I FEEL LOVE IN THE AIR!

[henrry-2009]

I just can not even imagine Hillary and Bill in the white house again. We are crazy to even imagine. Look the facts are that Hillary is very high strong and does not work well with republicans..Thats so scary becuse if she cant reach out across party lines how she not only win the ection, will move an agenda forward with full support, she wont... Thats reality folks, The other thing we must be aware that in order to win the general elections you must chip away some republicans to your side and some independent..Hillary is not liked by republicans and most of the independent vote is going for Borack. We need someone who can reach across party lines and bring all partys to the table and get things done..The only one who has that ability is Obama. Lets be realistic. If Hillary wins McCain will bring in all the independent votes and moderate democrats and win the electio. Obama is the only hope that we have that can atract all partys and win in novemeber. People the Clintons are to polorized.

[croft777]

henrryWow!!! I was blown away by Obama Charecter he is so eloquent. He spoke and acted like a president. I will know support Borack Obama. I was a huge Jonh supporter. The reason I decided to support Obama is because I did not like the answer Hillary gave when the issue of the Iraq War came up..She was dancing around that issue too much with no clear answer. Shame on her, no respect for our troops..As a hardocore democrat I stand with Obama because he said no to the war from the start.

Wow, alot of people were blown away by Hitlers words too, how amazing, that talk out performs experience right? As far as the Irac war is concerned, he shouldn''t be promising a time span to when he''ll get the soldiers out anyways.The American people need to hear realistic ideas. For one, who knows what Bush will do before then, we might be in war not only with Irac, but God knows what other country. Bush could do alot of damage in a short period of time if you notice. And another thing, Obama has changed his mind on the war many times. He didn''t know what he would do at first. And what about those 100 votes that he didn''t vote for, we don''t need a president dragging his feet in the white house.

[gunownerdan]

Hillary Clinton is a lying warmonger just like Bush!!!

"....Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members....
It is clear....that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security."
-- Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) Floor Speech October 10, 2002

[gunownerdan]

Barack Obama will fight to protect the rights of DANGEROUS CRIMINALS to SUE YOU if they get themselves hurt after breaking into your home.
Meanwhile both Hillary and Barack say law-abiding citizens cannot be trusted to own common handguns, shotguns, and rifles while they are both constantly surrounded by armed guards carrying MACHINE GUNS.

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed and that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of press." - Thomas Jefferson

www.a-human-right.com

[samthetvcat]

People THINK they''re voting based on issues like the economy and whatnot, but given that each of the candidates has a ''base'' to which most of us probably fit, the truth is that most of us are probably just drawn to trust the candidate who''s most like us.

Meaning that this debate probably isn''t going to impact the polls nearly as much as Edwards getting out of the race, wouldn''t you think? I''ll be interesting to see how that boils down . . .

PS How distracting was it to have the camera pan to all those ''b-level'' celebrities - Jason Alexander, Kate Capshaw, etc . . . only in L.A. lol

[goldee11]

I am very disturbed about Barack Obama''s church affiliation. All black, which is included in their member statement. Possibly the pastor of that church may have some innaproprite affiliations with Islam. I hope we haven''t forgotten 911 already.I also have some concerns about Obama''s affiliation to Oprah. I used to like her until I watched a new conference on tv. There she was in South Africa, standing arm in arm with a large group of young impressionable girls, when a reported asked her; ''Why aren''t there more white girls in your school." And her answer was " I don''t have to appease the white people" I was astounded at her answer. It actually made me cringe, and I never saw it played on the news again. Just kind of hush-hushed. I think the reporter was ignorant, However, So was the answer he got. I am very concerned that this is becoming a power struggle of races.I won''t vote Obama and not sure about Hillary, however I would prefer Hillary at this point. I am a very Democratic californian, and very disturbed about this race so far. If things don''t improve I may swith and vote republican.

[plusbbcather]

i don''t care Hillary and Obama who can win the president. what i care is that who can bring more profit to citizens and give our stable income and life. why i saw Hillary''s profile at the dating site "Largemingle.com"? Is it real or intrigue? just curious?

[croft777]

Hillary is not liked by republicans and most of the independent vote is going for Borack. We need someone who can reach across party lines and bring all partys to the table and get things done..The only one who has that ability is Obama. Lets be realistic. If Hillary wins McCain will bring in all the independent votes and moderate democrats and win the electio. Obama is the only hope that we have that can atract all partys and win in novemeber. People the Clintons are to polorized.henrry

And you think Obama is going to be liked even better, I doubt it. Theres no uniting in congress. This isn''t kindergarden, no group hugs there. Thats reality. Obama is talking about uniting. Ok how? This inspiring mind wants to know. I find it hard to believe considering the man belongs to a church that does not know the meaning of the word unite. Obama would be smeared by the republicans if he was nominated for the democratic party. They don''t play nice. They would go on the witch hunt. All kinds of *** would be brought to peoples attention whether it be true or not. For instance, his church, his islamic ties (meaning born with a muslim father), his land purchase, the drugs, his minister whos friends of Farrakhan, and much more. Its a waste of my vote, Hillarys slate is at least clean of these offenses.If we were going to put Obama in the spot,we may as well just give the presidency to another screwed up republican.

[croft777]

goldee11

don''t be afraid to vote for Hillary. Her records prove that she is well committed and has already proved a long time ago that she can get the job done. She has done it many times before.

[joinordie76]

DEBATE: 1de7bate Pronunciation: di-%u02C8b%u0101t, d%u0113- Function: noun Date: 13th century : a contention by words or arguments: as a: the formal discussion of a motion before a deliberative body according to the rules of parliamentary procedure b: a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides.

Don''t waste your time tuning into tonight''s CNN infomercial for globalism, the end of our republic, the end of sovereignty and the slavery of all wage earners. There are no rules in the so called debate, there is no moderation either.

Wolf Blintzen is sitting back allowing canned broadcast of the Marxist manifesto, unchallenged.

Key words from both candidates: MANDATORY, GOVERNMENT, CONTROL, GIVE, I, FAILED ADMINISTRATION, IMMIGRANTS RIGHTS, RIGHTS, COMPREHENSIVE, UNIVERSAL.

Pure Marxism and the end of liberty. The most inane gathering in American Political history. In a nutshell, vote for me I''m black and Marxist or vote for me, I''m female and Marxist. No more than a televised communist party pep rally before an audience of screaming vaginas. Liberalism is a dangerous mental disorder.

[croft777]

gunownerdan

how can he do that? The man is dead.

[gunownerdan]

We are in a battle against brutal totalitarian dictators like Saddam Hussein and radical Islamic extremists like Osama Bin Laden so let''s vote for Barack Hussein Obama!
When congress has the lowest approval rating in history, the dirty democrats choose Hitlery and Barack right out of the senate.
The same people who cause the problems in the first place will not be the ones to fix them.

[pepperp1]

I really enjoyed the opportunity to vote on the questions at Politico.com I though for sure they were going to be the same old race thrash started by MSNBC and Wapo, there were two I though were CNNish dumb questions, but Jeanne and Doyle where a wonderful change for a CNN debate. But their after CNN discussion panel something wrong with that crowd very lame.

Winner was Clinton who shined her First Lady experience answer was super, and I though Obama had his best debate and he appeared to have substance not just anti Clinton grudges.

Liked this much better more info on policy difference and ability to think and make decisions very informative.


No more MSNBC debates ever.

[pepperp1]

$32 million in January WOW I would love to see this list.

[seattlempro15]

Barack Obama played a nice guy
Hillary responded with a wink in her eye
The debate was played
The questions were laid
and so was bill with lewinsky

Sorry that didn''t rhyme

[ontheleft]

If the polls are any indication, Hillary is going to win big on Tuesday. I think the nomination will be wrapped up that night. Same with McCain. He''ll seal the deal next Tuesday.

[brianbwb-2009]

"I hope we haven''''t forgotten 911 already." Posted by goldee11

But it seems you have forgotten about Oklahoma City. When the federal building there was bombed by a whack job, no one made any assumptions that all ignorant rednecks calling themselves Christians are out to destroy the country, even though a few nuts like the kkk and aryan nations actively advocate genocide against "Black" people.

As for the all "Black" church, by your logic, should not all "white" churches be just as suspect? Is it not logic that if you live in a "Black" neighborhood, that your church would reflect the ethnicity of the neighborhood? It is not exclusivity that makes a church all "Black", it is the unwillingness of "Whites" to attend one.

As for Oprah, why is it that "White" people decry any "Black" person wishing to aid the "Black" community exclusively, when history shows that "Whites" will not? Why should she "have", or even wish to appease "White" people, what have they done to require, or deserve such appeasement?

Your implications that the effects of centuries of racism don''t exist, or don''t need remedial action, suggests a wish that we simply accept the status quo of institutionalized anti "Black" racism, to "know our place". Such thinking was challenged in America in the 60s, and should be challenged and defeated worldwide, those who wish its continuance are becoming extinct, all too slowly, but still just as surely.

[howhittie]

why critisize anyone, what not just be yourself and choose whomever is in your favorite. Stop being nasty and crytisize neither one. Be nice people, let work toghether here, one country, we all are human being, white or black we all are going under the earth one day, the same place, there will not be a special place for neither one of us, just remember we are all one nation. Election is for one to win, but eventhough I am mixe half white or black and I can not even define myself, I am who God wants me to be. I beleive Obama is the President, but remember eventhough he wil be the winner, there will be no chance for him to get on, they will do something to blow him off, what I mean by that is they will mess up something to the change the criterial, outccome, or the result. Anyway, that is my idea, I hope you understand where I am coming from, I was not born here, but I have the stories head to toes. Free speech, that is one of my favorite in America. That why we all can be nasty and Criticism

Good luck with your choices, Remember to make the right ones. As, you might already do. Ciao

[grazinggoat]

It is clear....that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security."
-- Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) Floor Speech October 10, 2002

Posted by gunownerdan at 11:59 PM : Jan 31, 2008

- This was the Zionist running lie. Hilary just learned it and told the lie to everyone who wanted to hear it. Now she is getting the Zionist endorsement and support (not to say organizer). Matter of fact Madeleine Albright is one of the Clinicton Clan supporter, who finally and SUDDENLY discovered she was of Jewish Descent, as late as 1997, despite her and everybody''s knowledge of her first cousin death in Auschwitz. She was pretending to be a Catholic. Her policies in the Middle-East were clearly biased, in favor of Israel.

- We need a change for more neutrality in the conflict that is dragging and bleeding us since 50 some years. We need to get out of that Cast. We need our American interests first in the Middle-East. Obama will give America it''s right share of National and International Policies. Let''s get out of the OLD casts and let''s pledge for a change.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Pure Marxism and the end of liberty." Posted by JoinOrDie76

When you can light a joint in the comfort of your home without being concerned that you might go to jail for doing so, when your child is no longer at risk of being sent off to die in a foreign country for nothing more than the enrichment of corrupt politicians, when your relative can call you long distance from Bali without your call being illegally wiretapped, when the Civil Rights act becomes permanent, and no longer needs to be "renewed", when you can use your legally purchased digital data as you see fit, when you can disagree with a policeman without the risk of being tasered, or worse, when large corporations can no longer buy legislation for their benefit, and against yours, only then can you even begin to speak of liberty, until then you are simply blowing smoke.

[brianbwb-2009]

Posted by grazinggoat

I am even more cynical than you, I posit that the only reason these corrupt maggots support Israel is that they make a lot of under the table money for doing so. If the big money wasn''t being spread around, there would be no Zionists in the government, including Albright. No one would care the slightest bit about what happens to Israel.

The whole Middle East mess is due to corrupt money, and all the toilet scum in D.C., on both sides of the aisle, are on the take.