Feb. 3, 2008
An Interview With Gordon Hinckley
A Look Back At Mike Wallace's 1996 Interview With The President Of The Mormon Church
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On the death of Gordon Hinckley, the president and prophet of the Mormon Church, 60 Minutes revisits this unprecedented Mike Wallace interview with the Mormon leader.
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The president and prophet of the Mormon church, Gordon B. Hinckley, died last Sunday at age 97. He was buried Saturday in Salt Lake City. The church broadcast his memorial service around the world in 69 languages.
President Hinckley presided over the global expansion of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which is one of the fastest growing religions in the world, and the fourth largest religion in the United States. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is a Mormon.
The church used to be known for polygamy, but it gave up the practice more than 100 years ago when Utah became a state. Faithful Mormons don't have premarital sex, and they don't smoke or drink-even coffee is prohibited. And heads of the church did not give interviews, until Hinckley decided to sit down with Mike Wallace 11 years ago. Their conversation began with the beginning of the church: Mormons believe that God and Jesus appeared one day in New York state, before a 14-year-old farm boy.
"Your church says God and Jesus spoke with your founder, Joseph Smith, back in 1820 and told him to start this church. You believe that?" Wallace asked.
"Yes, sir," Hinckley replied.
"He was 14 years old... a backwoods farm boy...in New York state?" Wallace asked.
"That's the miracle of it," Hinckley told Wallace.
You'd expect the head of the church to believe it, but so does Bill Marriott, chief of the Marriott hotel chain, a hard-headed businessman, and he's a Mormon.
"Fourteen years old and God and Jesus come to see him? You believe that?" Wallace asked Marriott.
"Yes, I do. We believe that the early church of Jesus Christ faded away, and that it came back to Joseph Smith," Marriott explained.
And the senior U.S. senator from Utah, Orrin Hatch, a Mormon, believes it, too. "We believe that we know that this happened," the senator said.
What began with God, Jesus and a single farm boy has now become a worldwide religion with more than nine million members. But more than a religion, Mormonism is a lifestyle, an island of morality, they believe, in a time of moral decay. Hinckley acknowledged it is not easy to follow the Mormon faith, and called it the most demanding religion in America.
"It is demanding, and that's one of the things that attracts people to this church. It stands as an anchor in a world of shifting values," he told Wallace.
For example, Mormons adhere to a very strict health code: no alcohol, no tobacco, no coffee, no tea, not even caffeinated soft drinks. They’re supposed to eat meat sparingly, exercise, and get plenty of sleep.
And the result? Mormons live several years longer than most other Americans. Another reason they live longer, Mormons say, is that they suffer less from stress because they have strong, supportive families. Many Mormons marry early and have lots of children.
Premarital sex, as we said, is forbidden among Mormons; so is adultery. Mormons don't even go to R-rated movies. But students at Brigham Young University insisted that having high moral standards did not prevent them from having a good time.
"We like to have fun. We like to go on dates. So we like to do just normal things," one student told Wallace.
"But you don't fool around?" he asked.
"No," the student said. "It's not something that I think is fun. A guy I remember, he told me, 'You know, you'd be so much fun if you'd drink. You would have, you know, you'd be looser and everything.' And I'm like, 'You know, I like to have fun knowing what I'm doing, being completely in control and just having fun with life.'"
And while these young Mormons stressed self-control, they themselves are controlled, to a remarkable degree, by the church. In fact, Mormons who break the rules of morality or health are not allowed to enter sacred Mormon temples.
Living as a devout Mormon is not easy. In addition to what you cannot do, there's a lot you are supposed to do. You're expected to read scripture daily and to read scripture together as a family at least one night a week; students attend daily religious courses.
Sunday services last three hours. But beyond that, church activities take several more hours each week. All of those hours and all of those rules are too much for some Mormons, who fall away.
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One Baptist blogger stated %u201C99 percent of the members of his Baptist church believe in the Mormon (and Early Christian) view of the Trinity. It is the preachers who insist on the Nicene Creed definition.%u201D It seems to me the reason the pastors denigrate the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) is to protect their flock (and their livelihood).
Glenn Hodson
Dove Canyon, California
First of all it is Mormon, not morman. Next, all the church services are done by lay members. No one gets paid to do any service, so why would we seek out paid advertising, we got 50,000 free missionaries to do our advertising we don''t need to pay a website! We also have our own website if we wanted to "advertise." So learn some facts before you go spouting things you don''t know.
Lots of mormans have premarital *** (with themselves or others), many drink and some smoke. some get divorced and become serial polygamists.
And when it comes to the attention of the church they are dealt with. I know because I had such a dealing with the church in regards to my premarital activities. And I actually thank them for it. Holding me accountable is the best thing they could''ve done for me. For those who keep such activities a secret, it is not a secret from God and they will be dealt with accordingly in the after life.
First of all it is Mormon, not morman. Next, all the church services are done by lay members. No one gets paid to do any service, so why would we seek out paid advertising, we got 50,000 free missionaries to do our advertising we don''t need to pay a website! We also have our own website if we wanted to "advertise." So learn some facts before you go spouting things you don''t know.
Lots of mormans have premarital *** (with themselves or others), many drink and some smoke. some get divorced and become serial polygamists.
And when it comes to the attention of the church they are dealt with. I know because I had such a dealing with the church in regards to my premarital activities. And I actually thank them for it. Holding me accountable is the best thing they could''ve done for me. For those who keep such activities a secret, it is not a secret from God and they will be dealt with accordingly in the after life.
Jesus called Satan "The Father Of Lies". So was Mr. Hinckley in several statements he made about the Mormon Cult. He claimed Mormons were no longer involved in polygamy any longer. Reporter Lisa Ling did an expose''/documentary on the Mormon Cult for Oprah Winfrey. Several Mormon Wives living in a polygamous community in AZ or NM with huge multi-million dollar homes, bragged to Lisa about their polygamous marriages and husband, who admitted he enjoyed having a choice of *** partners! Besides their Husband working, most of the polygamous Wives work also, which substantially increases their income!
First of all it is Mormon, not morman. Next, all the church services are done by lay members. No one gets paid to do any service, so why would we seek out paid advertising, we got 50,000 free missionaries to do our advertising we don''t need to pay a website! We also have our own website if we wanted to "advertise." So learn some facts before you go spouting things you don''t know.
Lots of mormans have premarital *** (with themselves or others), many drink and some smoke. some get divorced and become serial polygamists.
And when it comes to the attention of the church they are dealt with. I know because I had such a dealing with the church in regards to my premarital activities. And I actually thank them for it. Holding me accountable is the best thing they could''ve done for me. For those who keep such activities a secret, it is not a secret from God and they will be dealt with accordingly in the after life.
THEY ARE IN NO WAY CONNECTED TO THE LDS CHURCH
you may want to believe they are - but that doesn''t make it true - you are lying to yourself.
Mormons believe pornography is strictly evil; those who view it are barred from full participation in the Church. Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount that "He that looketh upon a woman to lust after hath committed adultery already in his heart."
I disagree with Marriott''s decision to follow the trend of all major hotels (and most Mormons do) but, the reality is, if Marriot would have banned porn from his hotels, he most assuredly would have been attacked by the same "Christians," this time claiming that Mormons believe in "controlling" peoples%u2019 lives or "cramming their religion down others'' throats." Unfortunately, even in a civilized country like the United States, there are still a lot of bigots out there, and they just love to pick on the Mormons and twist things to make us look bad%u2014this is another example. True followers of Christ are always persecuted, so Mormons are not surprised%u2014though they have suffered and are still hurt and saddened when falsely attacked.
The Bible teaches two ways to recognize true followers of Jesus: 1) they will be persecuted 2) their "fruits" will reveal them- in other words, they will actually follow the Lord''s teachings:
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/lds_dem.html
Mormons believe pornography is strictly evil; those who view it are barred from full participation in the Church. Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount that "He that looketh upon a woman to lust after hath committed adultery already in his heart."
I disagree with Marriott''s decision to follow the trend of all major hotels (and most Mormons do) but, the reality is, if Marriot would have banned porn from his hotels, he most assuredly would have been attacked by the same people, this time claiming that Mormons believe in "controlling" peoples%u2019 lives.
The Bible teaches two ways to recognize true followers of Jesus: 1) they will be persecuted 2) their "fruits" will reveal them- in other words, they will actually follow the Lord''s teachings. We invite the world to %u201Ccheck us out.%u201D We don%u2019t have anything to hide and we will never back down from our knowledge of the truthfulness of our claims.
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/lds_dem.html
lds.org
WHY I BELIEVE... the reason I decided to join the Mormon church. As I was being taught the different principles of my new found beliefs, I did find it hard to believe many of them. The wonderful missionaries would explain very clearly the doctrines to the best of their knowledge, they would also allow for questions. This helped me to have a clear understanding of exactly what was being taught. When we would finish every discussion they would invite me to find out for myself if what they taught was true. They actually said they prefer I didn''t believe them, but that I pray to my Father in heaven and ask him to let me know if it is true. And sure enough i felt a feeling of peace very, very strong that I couldn''t deny. I have come to realize that the miracle of it all is the way God uses small and simple things to bring to pass his work. Joseph Smith was a young boy confused by the many religions of the day wondering which one was true. When he decided to follow what the bible says in James 1:5 if any of ye lack wisdom, let him ask God who giveth to men liberally and upbraideth not. Joseph Smith did that, he asked God which church was true hoping for an answer. I''m not sure how he was expecting his question to be answered, but I''m sure he didn''t expect to see God the father, and His son Jesus Christ to appear to him and tell him none of them were true. ASK GOD FOR YOURSELF.
WHY I BELIEVE... the reason I decided to join the Mormon church. As I was being taught the different principles of my new found beliefs, I did find it hard to believe many of them. The wonderful missionaries would explain very clearly the doctrines to the best of their knowledge, they would also allow for questions. This helped me to have a clear understanding of exactly what was being taught. When we would finish every discussion they would invite me to find out for myself if what they taught was true. They actually said they prefer I didn''t believe them, but that I pray to my Father in heaven and ask him to let me know if it is true. And sure enough i felt a feeling of peace very, very strong that I couldn''t deny. I have come to realize that the miracle of it all is the way God uses small and simple things to bring to pass his work. Joseph Smith was a young boy confused by the many religions of the day wondering which one was true. When he decided to follow what the bible says in James 1:5 if any of ye lack wisdom, let him ask God who giveth to men liberally and upbraideth not. Joseph Smith did that, he asked God which church was true hoping for an answer. I''m not sure how he was expecting his question to be answered, but I''m sure he didn''t expect to see God the father, and His son Jesus Christ to appear to him and tell him none of them were true. ASK GOD FOR YOURSELF.
Kurtis Alldrege, Pennsylvania
Mike Wallace; what an incredibly arrogant, condescending, smug, pompous individual you are (in true 60 Minutes fashion)! Your group most certainly views the world in an elitist manner. If 60 minutes doesn%u2019t agree with someone or an organization, that / those person/s or organization is automatically relegated to a lower station of existence and treated as guilty until they prove themselves innocent (which they%u2019ll never accomplish because you are, after all, superior and HAVE CONTROL OVER THE EDIT BUTTON I might add).
Perhaps what you need to comprehend is that your not the %u201Cend all, be all%u201D regarding knowledge and intellect on this planet, no one needs to bow and grovel to your assumed greatness! Be I a common man or the most famous person on the planet, I would never submit / agree to an interview with you. My time is too valuable to me to be wasted.
Ted C. Kennedy / Visalia CA.
PS %u2013 By the way, I am very certain you would have treated the Pope in the same manner, if given the opportunity!
Mike Wallace; what an incredibly arrogant, condescending, smug, pompous individual you are (in true 60 Minutes fashion)! Your group most certainly views the world in an elitist manner. If 60 minutes doesn%u2019t agree with someone or an organization, that / those person/s or organization is automatically relegated to a lower station of existence and treated as guilty until they prove themselves innocent (which they%u2019ll never accomplish because you are, after all, superior and HAVE CONTROL OVER THE EDIT BUTTON I might add).
Perhaps what you need to comprehend is that your not the %u201Cend all, be all%u201D regarding knowledge and intellect on this planet, no one needs to bow and grovel to your assumed greatness! Be I a common man or the most famous person on the planet, I would never submit / agree to an interview with you. My time is too valuable to me to be wasted.
Ted C. Kennedy / Visalia CA.
PS %u2013 By the way, I am very certain you would have treated the Pope in the same manner, if given the opportunity!
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Mormons have never claimed not to be Christian, and we would certainly not change our doctrine merely because a member is running for President.
The name of the church, since its founding in 1830, has alawys been The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is others who have said, and continue to say, that we are not Christian. Others are free to disagree, but we have always considered ourselves Christian.
planet, which is our earth.. and he is so busy up there making spirit babies how does he have time to even care about you... and one day if your "good" and get married in the temple you can be a god too... see genesis.. that was satan first great lie.
Women want to be eternally pregnant and married to a man who will be getting other women eternally pregnant???
Join the mormon church now...
See your local missionaried for details.
"Remember that God, or Heavenly Father, was perhaps once a child, and mortal like we ourselves and rose step by step in the scale of progress, in the school of advancement; has moved forward and overcome, until he has arrived at the point where he now is."
WHAT???? god is not all-knowing and perfect? he has to learn and advance...
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by bigball1232
February 6, 2008 5:32 PM PST
- The fact is mormons are different and oddballs... there is no other group of people out there that believe the things mormons do... the god they believe in is NOT the same God that Christians believe in.
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