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"I know it is tempting - after another presidency by a man named George Bush - to simply turn back the clock, and to build a bridge back to the 20th century," the Illinois senator said in Denver.
"... It's not enough to say you'll be ready from Day One - you have to be right from Day One," he added in unmistakable criticisms of Clinton, who often claims she's better prepared to govern, and her husband, who pledged during his own presidency to build a bridge to the 21st century.
Within hours, Hillary Clinton pushed back in an interview with the AP - and got in her own dig.
"That certainly sounds audacious, but not hopeful," said Clinton, in a play on the title of Obama's book, "The Audacity of Hope." "It's not hopeful and it's not what we should be talking about in this campaign," said Clinton, suggesting Obama was abandoning the core of his campaign.
"I would certainly, through you, hope we could get back to talking about the issues, drawing the contrasts that are based in fact that have a connection to the American people," Clinton said.
In his speech, Obama depicted Clinton as a calculating, poll-tested divisive figure who will only inspire greater partisan divisions as she sides with Republicans on issues such as trade, the role of lobbyists in politics and national security. At the same time, he elevated McCain, fresh off victory in Florida's crucial primary, as the likely Republican nominee.
In the AP interview, Clinton vowed to take the high road and warned that voters in the mega-primaries next week expect that.
"I'm going to continue to talk to people about what we need to do in our country to try to lift people up, to keep focused on the future to be very specific about what I want to do as president because I want to be held accountable," said Clinton.
Obama drew more than 10,000 people to his speech at the University of Denver. They packed a hockey arena and crammed into two overflow rooms and still were lined up outside to get in. Colorado is a caucus state, one of 22 to hold nominating contests Tuesday, and is one of a handful of states where the Obama campaign is predicting victory. Clinton has the advantage in several others, while several are still up for grabs.
"Democrats will win in November and build a majority in Congress not by nominating a candidate who will unite the other party against us, but by choosing one who can unite this country around a movement for change," Obama said, speaking as rival John Edwards was pulling out of the race in New Orleans, leaving a Clinton-Obama fight for the Democratic nomination.
"It is time for new leadership that understands the way to win a debate with John McCain or any Republican who is nominated is not by nominating someone who agreed with him on voting for the war in Iraq or who agreed with him in voting to give George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran, who agrees with him in embracing the Bush-Cheney policy of not talking to leaders we don't like, who actually differed with him by arguing for exceptions for torture before changing positions when the politics of the moment changed," Obama said.
"We need to offer the American people a clear contrast on national security, and when I am the nominee of the Democratic Party, that is exactly what I will do," he said.
The two rivals fought hard prior to the South Carolina primary, but the tenor has eased a bit since then.
"I've been trying to keep this on a level where the contrasts and comparisons are certainly fair, this is an election after all," said Clinton. "I've been trying very hard to set the right tone, to be focused on bringing the party together, bringing the country together but around specific goals."
Clinton spent her day in Little Rock, before heading to Atlanta for speeches to the Southern Baptist Convention and a major Democratic fundraiser. She took a colorful diversion on the trip to Atlanta, heading down the aisle of her campaign plane serving peach cobbler to reporters and staffers.
"It was fresh this morning," said Clinton. "I love anything peach."
Obama said he understands voters might feel some comfort at the idea of returning to another President Clinton after eight years of Bush. But he cautioned voters not to buy the argument that Clinton's experience is what the country needs.
"It is about the past versus the future," he said. "And when I am the nominee, the Republicans won't be able to make this election about the past.
"If you choose change, you will have a nominee who doesn't just tell people what they want to hear," Obama told them. "Poll-tested positions, calculated answers might be how Washington confronts challenges, but it's not how you overcome those challenges; it's not how you inspire our nation to come together behind a common purpose, and it's not what America needs right now. You need a candidate who will tell you the truth."
Later Wednesday, Obama gave a 10-minute talk by live broadcast to a joint meeting in Atlanta of four historically black Baptist denominations, where Clinton was to appear in person later. These groups produced some of the most prominent civil rights leaders, including the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.. whom Obama quoted.
"Pastors are pushing this movement forward," Obama said of his campaign, "and I need each and every one of you in this fight."
He asked the audience to imagine what it would mean for the country to see him with his hand on the Bible, taking the presidential oath of office.
"Our children will look at themselves differently and their possibilities differently. They'll look at each other differently," he said.
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See all 70 CommentsIt also points to why Obama''s outsider status might actually be just what is needed to successfully restore the U.S. to international political creditworthiness.
Lincoln biographer David Herbert Donald showed how what might have been perceived as the Great Emancipator''s serious shortcomings as a war president and commander in chief actually turned out to be some of his greatest assets.
Remember, Lincoln came to the presidency having only meager experience--much less than Sen. Obama''s--in public office, let alone experience in the Executive Branch. (Lincoln''s experience in the military was limited to little more than two months service during the Black Hawk War.)
According to Donald, Lincoln was also fortunately unburdened by convention, precedent, and standard operating procedures in facing war''s challenge. (The parallels with Obama kind of leap from the page, no?)
However, Lincoln was also a quick study who grew into greatness through trial and error in pursuing the most significant of his goals.
Martin Edwin Andersen
Churchton, Maryland
Quit bashing other candidates and show us that you really understand the current issues. All the candidates are presenting their solution or ideas, while Obama is promoting his black race. He is certainly not qualify as a "UNITY" candidate. He is too divisive, too racist and inexperience.
Frightening but true: non of us have a clue about the deeply entrenched Obama alliances to Raila Odinga, the Menyan Islamic Fundamentalist who is responsible for the blood bath in Kenya today and Obama''s half brother, another islamic extremist in Kenya.
".....nothing gives a clearer indication into what drives Obama than his tacit support for the brutal opposition leader Odinga in Kenya.. Aligned with Islamists, Raila Odinga has signed a pact to institute sharia when he takes power after the current bloody coup.
Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country.
Curiouser and curiouser is the recent NY Post''s endorsement of Obama: FACT: the disgraced *** MORRIS columnist at the NY POST has a close relationship with OBAMA;s murderous pal Odinga:
"The left wing media has been played by brilliantly by Odinga - this is part of his strategy. *** Morris helped orchestrate that when Odinga hired him. ODM election strategy was overseen by *** Morris
That Obama suports Odinga unequivocally speaks volumes . What a dark glimpse into the soul of Barack Hussein.
Frightening but true: non of us have a clue about the deeply entrenched Obama alliances to Raila Odinga, the Menyan Islamic Fundamentalist who is responsible for the blood bath in Kenya today and Obama''s half brother, another islamic extremist in Kenya.
".....nothing gives a clearer indication into what drives Obama than his tacit support for the brutal opposition leader Odinga in Kenya.. Aligned with Islamists, Raila Odinga has signed a pact to institute sharia when he takes power after the current bloody coup.
Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country.
Curiouser and curiouser is the recent NY Post''s endorsement of Obama: FACT: the disgraced *** MORRIS columnist at the NY POST has a close relationship with OBAMA;s murderous pal Odinga:
"The left wing media has been played by brilliantly by Odinga - this is part of his strategy. *** Morris helped orchestrate that when Odinga hired him. ODM election strategy was overseen by *** Morris
That Obama suports Odinga unequivocally speaks volumes . What a dark glimpse into the soul of Barack Hussein.
Frightening but true: non of us have a clue about the deeply entrenched Obama alliances to Raila Odinga, the Menyan Islamic Fundamentalist who is responsible for the blood bath in Kenya today and Obama''s half brother, another islamic extremist in Kenya.
".....nothing gives a clearer indication into what drives Obama than his tacit support for the brutal opposition leader Odinga in Kenya.. Aligned with Islamists, Raila Odinga has signed a pact to institute sharia when he takes power after the current bloody coup.
Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country.
Curiouser and curiouser is the recent NY Post''s endorsement of Obama: FACT: the disgraced *** MORRIS columnist at the NY POST has a close relationship with OBAMA;s murderous pal Odinga:
"The left wing media has been played by brilliantly by Odinga - this is part of his strategy. *** Morris helped orchestrate that when Odinga hired him. ODM election strategy was overseen by *** Morris
That Obama suports Odinga unequivocally speaks volumes . What a dark glimpse into the soul of Barack Hussein.
Frightening but true: non of us have a clue about the deeply entrenched Obama alliances to Raila Odinga, the Menyan Islamic Fundamentalist who is responsible for the blood bath in Kenya today and Obama''s half brother, another islamic extremist in Kenya.
".....nothing gives a clearer indication into what drives Obama than his tacit support for the brutal opposition leader Odinga in Kenya.. Aligned with Islamists, Raila Odinga has signed a pact to institute sharia when he takes power after the current bloody coup.
Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country.
Curiouser and curiouser is the recent NY Post''s endorsement of Obama: FACT: the disgraced *** MORRIS columnist at the NY POST has a close relationship with OBAMA;s murderous pal Odinga:
"The left wing media has been played by brilliantly by Odinga - this is part of his strategy. *** Morris helped orchestrate that when Odinga hired him. ODM election strategy was overseen by *** Morris
That Obama suports Odinga unequivocally speaks volumes . What a dark glimpse into the soul of Barack Hussein.
Frightening but true: non of us have a clue about the deeply entrenched Obama alliances to Raila Odinga, the Menyan Islamic Fundamentalist who is responsible for the blood bath in Kenya today and Obama''s half brother, another islamic extremist in Kenya.
".....nothing gives a clearer indication into what drives Obama than his tacit support for the brutal opposition leader Odinga in Kenya.. Aligned with Islamists, Raila Odinga has signed a pact to institute sharia when he takes power after the current bloody coup.
Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country.
Curiouser and curiouser is the recent NY Post''s endorsement of Obama: FACT: the disgraced *** MORRIS columnist at the NY POST has a close relationship with OBAMA;s murderous pal Odinga:
"The left wing media has been played by brilliantly by Odinga - this is part of his strategy. *** Morris helped orchestrate that when Odinga hired him. ODM election strategy was overseen by *** Morris
That Obama suports Odinga unequivocally speaks volumes . What a dark glimpse into the soul of Barack Hussein.
No one will chose a former first lady over a war hero. that is laughable.
Obama is the Dems only chance now
She has no shot against McCain.
Striving for a united and harmonious nation DOES NOT mean that we do away with the police force, right?
Striving for a united and harmonious nation means that one IS NEVER inclined to draw ''''first blood'''' against fellow citizens.
However, if ''''first blood'''' is drawn by a citizen, then POLICE ACTION may be warranted; because necessary police action IS part of keeping a united and harmonious nation!
After Iowa''''s crushing defeat, the classless Clintons decided to go desert the important national issues and instead decided to go negative and personal on the real ''''front runner''''.
That misbehavior on the part of the Clintons invited carefully targeted ''''police action'''' by the Obama campaign.
Striving for unity and harmony in a nation DOES NOT mean that good citizens just lay down and allow misbehaving citizens to run all over them!
ABCD = Anyone But Clinton Dynasty!
NOT CLINTON THIRD TERM!
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For those who do not have blind loyalty or are not ruled by party dogma, Hilary''''s actions in Florida and Michigan give them disquiet: What do you think of a person who does not keep their word or honor their committments? What else is she capable of--is there a line she will not cross to win? Will she really do what she promises or are the campaign pledges something else she will dump or ignore if something better comes along? When rules, laws and promises are a matter of convenience and are discarded or ignored when an agenda demands it--NOTHING is sacred. Such a person has NO loyalty to party or the people in it--they will only help you if it furthers themself.
If this is not what Hilary wanted to reveal--she really should have thought of the ramifications of double dealing the DNC--because those who do not drink her koolaide will certainly rethink this.
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BEFORE YOU ACCUSE ME OF "SPAMMING" I SUGGEST THAT YOU REQUEST MY INPUT. THE REASON WHY MY COMMENTS APPEARED SEVERAL TIMES WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WAY TO CONFIRM THAT MY COMMENT HAD BEEN PUBLISHED AND THERE WAS NO MESSAGE INDICATING THAT MY COMMENT WAS BEING "MODERATED" AND I ASSUMED THAT MY COMMENT WAS NOT PUBLISHED. SORRY THAT I HURT YOUR HIGH BROW FEELINGS!!!
RATHER THAN WASTE OUR TIME WITH YOUR MINDLESS AND PETTY ABOUT AN ASSUMED INFRACTION ON MY PART, YOU SHOULD HAVE RESPONDED TO THE SUBSTANCE OF MY COMMENTS. YOU WERE RIGHT ON THE BALL AT LEAST ONCE...I AM WISE. THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT!!!
I MEANT MINDLESS AND PETTY "SENSITIVITY AND SENSIBILITY"
Biden: Look, this is really dicey territory. Let me say it this way. I think that one''s character, one''s honesty, one''s integrity, is a habit of the mind. I don''t think people can be dishonest in one aspect of their life, and compartmentalize it and be viewed as being honest in other parts of life.
If the tendency is to cut a corner; if the tendency is not to tell the truth; the probability is, that in a moment of crisis, where that person''s interests are at stake, they''re likely revert to the bad tendencies. If the habit of the heart and the habit of the mind is, that whether you''re dealing with promising the parking attendant you''re gonna be back in 20 minutes. Or you''re telling your wife something, or you are going to the nation and making a commitment.
There is -- habits are habits. And they all relate to, seems to me, how an individual values what they say as being important and relevant.
Wonder what this means for who Hilary will d1ck next?
Posted by PAPEEHARA at 11:29 PM : Jan 30, 2008
Ahhhh yes. Yet another uncouth and arrogant supporter of Hilary--whose lack of decency, manners, decorum and honor is reflected in the type of people who support her. Word again to the wise: If you take as much time dialoguing as you obviously do trying to see your words in print, you would have known it was being posted repeatedly--there is some understanding for your lack of knowledge--but whereas many who find out they are posting too much, apologize and explain the discrepancy--that is too much to ask from Hilary''s group. They are the neo cons of the Democratic party, --blind, super loyal, apologists for their flawed version of a goddette. Just sheeples with blue dresses instead of red--but still koolaide drinkers and mindless, lockstep automations. LMAO
Posted by PAPEEHARA at 11:29 PM : Jan 30, 2008
Your comments were obviously a type of emotional masturbation. Though your continual spamming indicate you yearn for an audience, the tenor and rant indicate it was all about you and your view of everyone that is not a Hilary lover--that said, understand that masturbation is a singular activity and is best done sans audience. You are new to these boards (its obvious) you appear to also be new to the idea of decorum and discourse, as well. I try not to waste my times with emotional masturbators--participation from others is not what is really needed...LOL Oh yes--and Hilary is a lying opportunist too--great series of attributes being collected by the Hilary crowd--those of us who are not drinking koolaide, may not even notice the blip from the neo con days to the Hilary winning at all cost reich. lmaoay
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"The Hart-Mondale contest divided Democratic voters by age and by commitment to the party, much like the Clinton-Obama divide today. Younger voters, better educated voters, and voters who thought of themselves as independents were more likely to support Hart (as they do Obama this year), while older voters, less educated white voters and those who identify as Democrats were more likely to support Mondale (and now Clinton)."
Now why, does this come as absolutely no surprise at all? One would have to be somewhat mentally challenged or lack certain cognitive skills, to not note the discrepancies in Clinton''''s rhetoric and performance and to not see the deviousness of her particular campaign approach. Sort of like the way, we noted that Bush supporters must all hail from La-la land. Who knew that was where Clinton supporters dwelt also? If Clinton wins the election, get ready for 4 more years of la-la land fall out, while the Republicans crow and the Hilary supporters bleat: "who knew". Why, everyone but all of YOU--that''''s who. lmao
Emotional masturbation!!!!!??..coming from a verbose dried up psychological PRUNE that''s just so classic.
Posted by PAPEEHARA at 12:10 AM : Jan 31, 2008
congrats on the improvement. We see you finally learned how to turn the caps lock off, AND stop posting 10 times or more--now if, you finally learn how to behave civilly and combine that with actual intelligent dialogue, someone other than myself, might actually converse with you. Gotta love those Hilary supporters--the neo cons might fade into obscurity, but we''ll have reasonable surrogates in the "ends justify the means mindset" of the new Hitleryites.
Like I posted-- a win for Hilary will be like a continuation of the Bush years--this time with blue tints. Same mentality, different godette. Odds are, you''ll be one of the first ones bleating when ol'' Hil betrays her promises to you. ROTFLMAO
Posted by HillaryNow at 01:01 AM : Jan 31, 2008
Most of us have no doubt that Hilary can make snap decisions on day one. But the resistance comes from her record. Snap decisions are not necessarily great decisions or even right ones--we submit to you that after 4 years, Bush could claim a lot more experience in the White House than he had in 2000, and we would also submit that he made a bigger mess in the next 3 years than he had in the first 4. Experience in and of itself means nothing. We would also note, that Obama has had 10 years in the Senate which is greater than Hilary''s time in the Senate and that given her not so great votes to give a meglomaniac the option for war, to expand FISA despite the obvious compromise of the FBI and the DOJ, and to endorse torture--Hilary''s experience does not guarantee either rational or prudent thought. As an aside, we should note:
"If time in the Oval office could be counted as validation of a candidate running, Monica could run, as well as Hilary. " One hopes we think beyond the mantle of experience--for without wisdom, "experience" is just a continual series of unrelated events that a person never learned from.
Politics is not for sissies!! :o)
Posted by kansas1946 at 08:35 PM : Jan 30, 2008
One other good thing about Hilary''''s "stunt" if she gets the nomination then turns around and ***** her Dems supporters in order to appeal to or court the Republicans--it is not as if she is not being consistent and they should have seen it coming.
Just like the neo cons who now bleat they were hoodwinked by Bush--Dems who blindly follow this person will be shown the same amount of sympathy. There was once a pilgrim marching up a mt, who crossed the path of a venomous snake. The snake asked for the pilgrim to take him to the top of the mt. The man said No, because the snake was poisonous. The pleading and refusal went back and forth, but finally the man picked the snake up and carried him up the mt. When they got to the top, the snake bit the man and as the man lay dying he asked why the snake had done that--after all he did for the snake.
This is what the snake said, as he slithered away: "You knew what I was, when you picked me up" good luck Hilary supporters......LOL
Wonder what this means for who Hilary will d1ck next?
Are you talking about yourself again?
There is -- habits are habits. And they all relate to, seems to me, how an individual values what they say as being important and relevant.
presidents and leaders who have had extra-marital affairs
John F Kennedy, Franklin D Roosevelt, Martin L. King, Jesse Jackson, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Grover Cleveland, Gary Hart, Newt Gingrich, Wendell Wilkie, .....want me to go on....give it a rest, we don''t care what you think.
Obama is the Dems only chance now
She has no shot against McCain.
jedi08
Your scared, just admitt it. Where have you been shes winning by a long shot, next week Obama will bne crying and kicking like a two year old. Hillary has the best chance of beating the Republican party. Obama has no chance, they rub his face in his own dirt.
yeah but Lincoln wasn''t a racist. Obama is, I laugh every time I here Obama talking about Uniting this country. Hows he gonna do that when he belongs to the most racist church in the US. They only help the African Americans and their mother country Africa. Unite my ***. There is a racial devide in this country now because of his race card game. Believe as you will, but he started it.
you mean a question like "who does your hair in the morning?" i bet he doesn''t cry at least.
WWW.HILLARYTHEMOVIE.COM
While Mrs. Clinton''s "tries" have been effective at dividing party and country, her "tries" have done little else. At every turn she demonstrates why she should return to private practice. She is not a person "of the people". In her total of seven years of elected office, Mrs. Clinton has only passed one bill; that being a million dollar monument in upstate NY for Woodstock. As of now, one of McCain''s commercials shows the entire Republican panel of candidates laughing at his conversation over that piece of legislation.
Mr. Obama has served twelve years in elected public office, more than Mrs. Clinton ever has. Since serving as a United States Senator, he has gotten two bills to the President''s desk and signed; one a lobbyist reform bill, the other usaspending.gov, a bipartisan piece with Senator Tom Coburn who will barely speak to Democrats, which illuminates ALL earmark spending and what legislator sponsored it.
While Mrs. Clinton "tries", Mr. Obama takes action.
NOTE: - This is not a time to fall for inspirational preaching think wise before you vote and your vote counts. We all need a leader who can take us to the future with understanding how to deal with this economy, war, health and on other issues that bush left for this great country. I think he is another Kerrey who said he makes America better by making America better but never said how and this lead to his defeat. Do democrats want to select another looser?
NOTE: - This is not a time to fall for inspirational preaching think wise before you vote and your vote counts. We all need a leader who can take us to the future with understanding how to deal with this economy, war, health and on other issues that bush left for this great country. I think he is another Kerrey who said he makes America better by making America better but never said how and this lead to his defeat. Do democrats want to select another looser?
--.what this rookie and REZKO have in common? Muslim%u2019s brother are for life. Blood is sticker than water. You can run but you can not hide.
..refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance. He did not want to offend ISLAM so he refused.
..claims he%u2019s running on his record.. He did not even know how to cast a %u201CYes%u201D or %u201CNo%u201D vote. He voted %u201Cpresent%u201D more than hundred times.
.. had 17 years%u2019 old unpaid outstanding parking tickets. He should spent sometime in jail.
.insisted that his health care provides care to everyone, does he know what universal means?
..a fabulous orator, but we need more than words; we need a doer not a talker
..he says one thing and does another
..will meet with enemies without preconditions
..he said that he was not taking money from the Lobbyists. How about the Rezko connection?
..playing old politics as usual, after he promised hope and change%u2026.
..used to be a drug addict or a pusher?
%u2026inexperienced, lack of accomplishments
Please don%u2019t waste your vote to a salesman! Please be smart.
"Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future."
Thanks to Carolyn, Ted and Patrick Kennedy for helping us to look towards the future in their endorsements for Senator Barack Obama for President of the United States.
The scandals of the Clinton administration are the elephant walking in our living rooms during this primary campaign.
We do not want to go back to that kind of intern intrigues and Whitewater.
As Michelle Obama has said: "If you can''t run your own house, you can''t run the White House."
Let''s go for change!
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