NEW YORK, Jan. 27, 2008

Why Obama Won South Carolina

Increased Turnout Among Young And New Voters, Desire For Change Fueled Obama's Victory

  • Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., greets people in the crowd after a rally in Columbia, S.C., Jan. 26, 2008. Photo

    Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., greets people in the crowd after a rally in Columbia, S.C., Jan. 26, 2008.  (AP Photo/Steven Senne)

(CBS)  CBS News Political Consultant Monika L. McDermott analyzes Sen. Barack Obama's victory in the South Carolina Democratic primary.

While the political pundits may label the South Carolina win by Barack Obama as all about race, exit polls demonstrate that the truth lies a little deeper. In many ways Obama's win was similar to his early victory in the Iowa caucuses. Increased turnout, specifically among the young and new voters, and a desire among voters of all colors for needed change helped him to a resounding win.

The Voters

In an election year that has repeatedly seen record-breaking turnout in Democratic caucuses and primaries, South Carolina was no exception. For Barack Obama, those who boosted the turnout in Saturday's primary were part of the key to his victory.

Four in every ten voters Saturday were under the age of 45, up eight points from their share of the electorate in 2004 when they were 32 percent. Among these voters, Obama won 64 percent of the vote, compared to the 55 percent he received among those 45 to 59 and the 38 percent among voters 60 and older.

Among those at the polls on Saturday were a new crop of voters - 27 percent reported that this was either their first vote ever, or their first primary vote. Here again, Obama carried the day. He won 63 percent of the vote by first-time voters, and 57 percent among those who had never attended a primary before this year.

Turnout was also high among African-American voters. In 2004 blacks made up 47 percent of the electorate. On Saturday they were 55 percent of those at the polls. And among black voters Obama received 78 percent of the vote. Only 19 percent of African-Americans voted for Hillary Clinton, and only 2 percent for John Edwards.

This is not to say that African-American voters are opposed to Clinton. In fact, they express support for her candidacy, should she win the nomination. Overall, 77 percent of primary voters said they would be satisfied with a Clinton nomination, including 80 percent of black voters.

Among white voters, who were 43 percent of the Democratic primary electorate, 40 percent voted for Edwards and 36 percent supported Clinton. Only 24 percent of whites supported Obama.

While the race was cleanly divided along racial lines, there is evidence that the vote went beyond race. Voters in South Carolina, as in Iowa, found Obama attractive both on issues and on personal characteristics.

Issues Versus Character

Voters said candidates' positions on the issues were more important to them than were candidate characteristics - 59 percent to 39 percent respectively - but other answers seem to tell a different story. Obama won within every issue category, by roughly the same margin as he won overall. When it came to candidate qualities, however, voters made clear distinctions among the candidates.

The economy was the issue Democratic primary voters chose as the most important facing the nation, with 52 percent. The second most important issue - health care at 25 percent - trailed far behind. And only 19 percent of South Carolina's Democratic primary voters chose the war in Iraq as the country's most important issue.

Voters made virtually no differentiation among the candidates on these issues. Within each group of issue voters Obama won over 50 percent of the vote, Clinton never hit 30 percent and Edwards remained below 20 percent.

Despite voters' belief that issues mattered more to their vote than did the candidates' personal qualities, it is on personal qualities that the voters found real differences among the candidates. When asked what mattered most to them in a candidate, 54 percent of voters said they were looking for a candidate who could bring change, including 40 percent of whites and 65 percent of African-Americans.

One quarter of voters wanted a candidate who cared about them, and 14 percent wanted a candidate with experience. Nine percent wanted most a candidate who could win in November.

Not surprisingly, the candidate campaigning primarily as an agent of change - Barack Obama - easily won over voters on this characteristic. Three-quarters (75 percent) of those looking for a candidate to change things voted for Obama. Both whites and African-Americans chose Obama on this characteristic.

As has also been seen in national surveys and preceding exit polls, Clinton was seen as the candidate of experience, and Edwards as the candidate of compassion. Voters who said caring was the most important candidate quality to them voted for Edwards just above Obama - 43 percent to 40 percent. Among those looking for an experienced candidate, Clinton overwhelmingly carried the vote with 84 percent.

Among the only nine percent who went to the polls looking for electability, the vote divided in Obama's favor between him and Clinton. Forty percent of this group voted for Obama and 36 percent chose Clinton.

Is America Ready for a Black President?

One racial issue that lingers over all of the primaries and caucuses is America's readiness for an African-American president. In South Carolina, Democratic voters are optimistic - but black voters more so than white voters.

Forty-two percent of South Carolina Democratic primary voters believe America is definitely ready for a black president. Another 34 percent believe we are probably ready. These numbers are sharply divided by race, however. Only 27 percent of white voters think America is ready, half the number of blacks, of whom 56 percent feel the country is ready.

Obama's vote share was tied somewhat to these beliefs. Among voters who said we are either definitely or probably ready to elect a black president, 63 percent supported Obama, while among those who feel we are either probably or definitely not ready, only 23 percent supported Obama (48 percent supported Clinton).

Among African-Americans these beliefs make less of a difference, however. Sixteen percent of blacks say America is not ready to elect a black president, but even among these skeptics, Obama won 51 percent of the vote to Clinton's 43 percent.

Whites are more pragmatic - among the 29 percent who do not think America will elect a black president yet, only four percent supported Obama in the primary. Just over half, 51 percent, of these voters supported Clinton, and 45 percent chose Edwards.



The CBS News South Carolina Democratic primary exit poll was conducted by Edison Media Research. The poll includes 1,905 voters surveyed as they left the polls in South Carolina on Saturday, January 26, 2008. The margin of error for the survey is +/- 2 percentage points.


Monika L. McDermott is assistant professor of political science at the University of Connecticut, where she teaches and conducts research on voting behavior and public opinion. Before joining the University of Connecticut, McDermott worked in election polling for CBS News and the Los Angeles Times. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from the University of California, Los Angeles.

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by pelosistilho January 27, 2008 11:01 PM PST
Can anyone honestly - repeat - honestly tell me what stepin fetchit junior REALLY stands for?

Not that I love Hil - any Dem running is a gutless wonder, as is Ronnie Paulistinian...but this is a hypocritical boy wonder who stands for nothing except charming the Hollyweirdo and Victicrat crowds.

We vote for America - not for boy wonder. The guy is already on record saying he won''t defend us, ergo, anyone who votes for him won''t mind another 9/11.
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by l00ker January 27, 2008 11:18 PM PST
http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/****/

What other choice do we have, Hillary and Bill?
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by tbweb January 27, 2008 11:20 PM PST
Why Obama Won?

Two U.S. soldiers were killed in separate bombings in Baghdad, the military said Sunday.

Many Americans know Senator Barack Obama will end the Iraq War!

3,934 U.S. Military Dead in Iraq as of today.

This may have a little to do with it.

Sen. Obama always makes the point the Iraq War should never have been authorized, no matter how well its going, the Senator claims the U.S. should never have went there in the first place.

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by alphaa10-2009 January 27, 2008 11:20 PM PST
In the South, Obama campaigns in receptive territory, but there is still much ahead to upset or stall the campaign.

Native Southerner Edwards was disappointed, despite his appeal on a wide platform of economic justice-- redeveloping American prosperity, and helping the middle class recover from the Bush years.

Son of a textile mill worker, Edwards knows growing American poverty and declining middle class prosperity brings doom to this nation.

Written to the Rustbelt, and other blighted urban areas across America, the Edwards platform fits the whole country better than a strictly regional appeal to the South.

On Iraq, Edwards-- unlike the others-- has a definite timetable and plan to extricate us from a regional civil war that has raged longer than WW2. Unlike Clinton, he has no intention of an "Iraq Lite" into the indefinite future.

Since poor healthcare is the chief burden of poverty, Edwards offered the first, and most comprehensive of national healthcare plans of the three candidates.

Clinton''s healthcare plan is closer to the hopes of those who want no plan, at all. Clinton''s plan relies on strategic private "partnerships", which sounds like HMO advertising. Strangely, Clinton continues to get cash from the same people who opposed her first effort at a national healthcare system. For his part, Obama stood in the senate lobby during a vote to let seniors buy drugs from Canada-- later revealing he gets money from the drug industry.
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by grazinggoat January 27, 2008 11:24 PM PST
Can anyone honestly - repeat - honestly tell me what stepin fetchit junior REALLY stands for?

Not that I love Hil - any Dem running is a gutless wonder, as is Ronnie Paulistinian...but this is a hypocritical boy wonder who stands for nothing except charming the Hollyweirdo and Victicrat crowds.

We vote for America - not for boy wonder. The guy is already on record saying he won''''t defend us, ergo, anyone who votes for him won''''t mind another 9/11.

Posted by Pelosistilho at 11:01 PM : Jan 27, 2008

-Pelosistilho, your name speaks for what you are. And you think we''re gonna defend Obama in front of an idiot such as you? Obama needs no such votes as yours.

-You vote for the loser Giuliani, or Geez'' Heck''aBee.

-If none is pleasing you, well soon you''d have the opportunity to cast your ballot for an Israeli Prime Minister, once Ehud would be busted out of Knesset
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by grazinggoat January 27, 2008 11:27 PM PST
Two U.S. soldiers were killed in separate bombings in Baghdad, the military said Sunday.

Many Americans know Senator Barack Obama will end the Iraq War!

3,934 U.S. Military Dead in Iraq as of today.

This may have a little to do with it.

Sen. Obama always makes the point the Iraq War should never have been authorized, no matter how well its going, the Senator claims the U.S. should never have went there in the first place.

Posted by tbweb at 11:20 PM : Jan 27, 2008

-And Senator Obama is dammm right, now that It''s been proven Walking-Liar has lied 935 times to the Nation and the World who is listening and shaping an idea about how are we governed.
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by rowdytexan2 January 27, 2008 11:39 PM PST
Posted by alphaa10 at 11:20 PM : Jan 27, 2008

Lest ye forget, Hillary was one of the first persons EVER to prepare a universal health care program, and was stymied when the republicans would not relent on any funding for it, and called it SOCIALISM!

Not Edwards or anybody else can plan a DEFINITE exit plan for Iraq because we don''t know what Mr. Bush is going to get us into while he''s still in office. ALL the candidates have said they will get us out of Iraq as soon as possible, and that''s all they can do.

ALL the democratic candidates have a plan for re=developing prosperity for the middle class. But I have yet to hear from Mr. Obama exactly what his is. If you will remember, up until a month he hadn''t developed a plan whatsoever! And STILL can''t formulate answers to complex questions regarding the issues of this country. Promoting hope, and change is wonderful, but if you have nothing to back it up with, it is just rather wonderful oratory.

Mr. Edwards just loves all the unfortunate folks that have helped make him a millionnaire many times over. And he enjoys his $1200 hair cuts and $6 million mansion that the suffering of others provides for him.

This election need really serious thoughtful voting.
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by joebergevin January 27, 2008 11:41 PM PST
Obama inspires people and opens doors... Listen to the song at www.myspace.com/bergevinbrothersmusic . The Bergevin Brothers from Seattle wrote and recorded this song with the help of over 50 people in the past 2 weeks. Pearl Jam drummer Matt Cameron, Pastor Pat Wright''s Total Experience Gospel Choir, Jake Bergevin and other donors worked with each other to create a song for Obama and the Nation...Enjoy.
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by gracianp January 27, 2008 11:46 PM PST
I''ll tell you why Obama won. It would be shameful if he did not win, after all the rockstar glorified coverage and vaunted rhetoric spouted by ALL the national media on his behalf. Compare that with the invisibility cloak thrown by the media over the non-corporate candidates Kucinich, Gravel, Paul. The media have not been so successful in denying Ron Paul because of his army of fund-raisers and internet backers. But they successfully derailed the candidacy of Kucinich- to the great loss of the American people. Gravel is also invisible and Edwards barely gets mentioned. They speak uncomfortable truths that would set the people free. Hopefully the American people will refuse to be shepherded by the media the rest of the way to electing YET ANOTHER CORPORATE-BACKED PRESIDENT. HINT: Don''t vote for the media rockstars!
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by joebergevin January 27, 2008 11:52 PM PST
Obama inspires people and opens doors... Listen to the song at www.myspace.com/bergevinbrothersmusic . The Bergevin Brothers from Seattle wrote and recorded this song with the help of over 50 people in the past 2 weeks. Pearl Jam drummer Matt Cameron, Pastor Pat Wright''s Total Experience Gospel Choir, Jake Bergevin and other donors worked with each other to create a song for Obama and the Nation...Enjoy.
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by buddhabman January 28, 2008 12:03 AM PST
TrapBreak - Ted isn''t dri
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:05 AM PST
Barack won because so many people have realized that voting for a black man is not about the fact that he''s black and at the same time doesn''t ignore the wonder of the fact that a black man is a serious contender for the White House. It''s a repudiation of those who lie and say MLK dreamed of a color blind America, when in fact he dreamed, as Barack and the the Clinton''s and all Democrats do, of an America that doesn''t ignore Barak''s race, but rather understands that King''s dream was that all races would be held to the same regard and honor.
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by republic1776 January 28, 2008 12:05 AM PST
Is America Ready for a Black President?
Good one CBS!
What is this race stuff?
I am sick of race, being a factor on this small rock that we all dwell on. let it go.
We are all human
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:10 AM PST
I am sick of race, being a factor on this small rock that we all dwell on. let it go.
We are all human

Posted by republic1776 at 12:05 AM : Jan 28, 2008

But race IS a factor! Don''t you see that if we ignore Obama''s race we ignore the contributions African Americans have added to our society! We belittle all that Barack has come through to reach this point! Martin Luther King did NOT want us to ignore race, but rather to embrace all races as our brothers and sisters! There IS a difference!
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by buddhabman January 28, 2008 12:11 AM PST
Trapbreak & Patginsd - Like it or not Obama has lit a fire under people. People are enthused and engaged like never before. Gravel & Kucinich while smart men, just can''t light that fire. Edwards is a great candidate but unfortunately for him it''s like playing against the Patriots with Obama and Hillary in the game.

Let me write it proudly. Barack Hussein Obama

Obama 08
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by samthetvcat January 28, 2008 12:11 AM PST
"....among black voters Obama received 78 percent of the vote. Only 19 percent of African-Americans voted for Hillary Clinton, and only 2 percent for John Edwards

So not a race issue?"
Posted by trapbreak

I''m just going to point this out just for the sake of pointing it out, you feel free to go ahead and say what you gotta say . . .

. . . there are 2 ''groups'' of people who are ''half'' like both Clinton and Obama - it''s not just black women, it''s also white men. You know what I mean? Like black women share race with Obama and share gender with Clinton while white men share gender with Obama and race with Clinton. Anyway, blacks weren''t a factor in the first two contests and Obama beat Clinton for the black women''s vote in NV and SC - much has been made about that. But apparently for the white guy''s vote, Obama''s beaten Clinton the first three times (Iowa, NH, NV) and basically tied her in SC as well.

* * *

Anyway, just thought I''d point out that 76% of the white South Carolinians voted for the white candidate. I''ve never been to SC, but maybe the OP''s comment plus the contrast points to the figures being a reflection more of life in SC than these 3 candidates (?) Anybody here ever been to SC?
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:15 AM PST
Yes we can!
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by republic1776 January 28, 2008 12:16 AM PST
That''s sad that Race would be a factor.
If we were all the same color, I guess I''d would be part of the big nosed tribe.
I''m am proud of having a big nose.
There ought to be a law for us big noses.
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by spinster2 January 28, 2008 12:20 AM PST
If the truth be known, Barrack doesn''t stand much chance in the south. SC is a state that is fifty percent black or higher, yet they always vote republican in the general election. What does that tell us? Simple, most white american''s in SC are republicans, period.

Why do black candidates such as Jesse Jackson and Barrack win here? It''s has more to do with a sense of pride than an anti anyone vote. He will also probablly carry Georgia and Tennesee as well a few other southern states and some northern states but the sad fact is that he''s not going to do so well in most of the south or the west.
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by samthetvcat January 28, 2008 12:21 AM PST
trapbreak, you from the South?
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by jaykay221 January 28, 2008 12:21 AM PST
The question is not Obama%u2019s experience, although admirable it is, the question is his message. Obama has looked into the heart of our times and identified what we have lost sight of %u2013 he reminds us.

Each one of us has a choice:

A choice to put our voice forward or be dictated to
Can you see?
A choice to be resilient or passive victims
Can you see?
A choice to seek for inspiration or be despondent in fatalism
Can you see?
A choice to revitalize and motivate our youth or encourage apathy
Can you see?
A choice to demand morality and truthfulness from our leaders or accept deception
Can you see?
A choice between finding a higher cause or hating each other for our differences
Can you see?
A choice to understand that we are stronger standing together than divided
Can you see?
A choice to go forward in hope or to continue in fear
Open your eyes%u2026
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:24 AM PST
Blacks giving 78% of their vote to the black candidate and 2% of their vote to Edwards doesn''''t sound like they were embracing all races. Numbers say they were favoring their own.

Posted by trapbreak at 12:16 AM : Jan 28, 2008

Yo0u''re not pretending to be surprised or offended are you? For the first time in their lives a man comes along who is not only the embodiment of what equality in America is supposed to be, but who also happens to be black and you''d expect them to vote for some one else?
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by samthetvcat January 28, 2008 12:26 AM PST
Spinster2, oh okay thx for the feedback - I''ve been to like Norfolk Virginia, and NOLA, and Texas, but never been to like the deep South, or anywhere really rural anywhere so I was interested how politics usually plays out. One of these days I''ll get around to visiting - the Food Network makes it look really tempting!!!!! :D
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:26 AM PST
Spinster2

Most white people voted for him in Iowa too. Hardly a black state.
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by samthetvcat January 28, 2008 12:28 AM PST
"Super Tuesday, in little over a week, 21 states all go to the polls on the same day. Many of these states are big delegate states, like New york and California. I think we will get a clearer picture of who is leading this nomination then."
Posted by trapbreak

Clinton does well in the big cities for some reason - not sure what the story is behind that, but all the rural people seem to really dig Barack . . .
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:29 AM PST
Now, South Carolina black voters give 78% to Obama. Let me hear again this wasn''''t race related.

Posted by trapbreak at 12:27 AM : Jan 28, 2008

Isn''t it a bit more then a little disingeuous to present black voters with a wonderful and perfectly acceptable candidate who also happens to be black and then claim it''s a racial issue because they vote for him?
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by jaykay221 January 28, 2008 12:30 AM PST
SgtRDS - Obama is no ignoring race - it''s just that the higher message is embracing all races as our brothers and sisters. The fact is that South Carolina was one place - he did very well in Iowa, NH and NV, where the demographics are different.
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:32 AM PST
SgtRDS - Obama is no ignoring race - it''''s just that the higher message is embracing all races as our brothers and sisters. The fact is that South Carolina was one place - he did very well in Iowa, NH and NV, where the demographics are different.

Posted by jaykay221 at 12:30 AM : Jan 28, 2008

No argument from me. Sounds like we agree 100%!
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by alphaa10-2009 January 28, 2008 12:33 AM PST
CBS said, "While the political pundits may label the (election) as all about race... the truth lies a little deeper..."
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Commendably, CBS would transcend the issue of race politics. But voting as a racial bloc was the elephant in the SC primary no pundit wants to acknowledge.

Analyst McDermott underplays the role of race-bloc voting, saying exit polls show Obama support distributed among all the issues, in the same proportion as Obama won. Yet, separate data for black and white voters shows a different result. For example, blacks are 30 percent of registered SC voters, but cast 55 percent of ballots. And of their ballots, 78 percent went to Obama.

Likewise, exit polls are a weakness in survey method, asking voters to rationalize their concerns by the ballot just cast. That is, to say afterward Clinton is strongest on healthcare, the economy and six other issues, when this voter in truth cared little about healthcare before the election-- and actually liked Edwards on several issues better-- but voted for Clinton, anyway?

A better indication of issues driving the vote is to compare pre-polls vs. exit polls on the same issues. This, of course, was not done.

Historically, Southern race bloc-voting is a defensive tactic, and generations of blacks voted against oppressive white politicians. But despite changing times and pan-bloc appeals from all three candidates, race-bloc voting for too many in the South persists as a stark, oversimplified choice-- "Black" or "White"?
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by spinster2 January 28, 2008 12:38 AM PST
Spinster2

Most white people voted for him in Iowa too. Hardly a black state.

Posted by SgtRDS at 12:26 AM : Jan 28, 2008

Sgt, Most people "DID NOT" vote for Barack in SC but you make an excellent point about Iowa where most white voters did not vote for him either. Still he did get the largest share which is very significant.

In regard to your comment, Iowa is certainly mostly white, but there is a BIG, let me repeat that, a BIG difference between Iowa and Dixie. Yankees vote for yankees all the time but we haven''t allowed one in the white house for forty years. It''s been longer than that since we allowed a black one to get in, so don''t let the media spin you too fast. Hillary still has a double digit lead nationally and that all that matters now.
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:38 AM PST
it seems to me that far too many people are hung up on the idea that talking about race always has to be a negative thing. Barack Obama is a black man. He is also white. He is also the son of an immigrant. His father was a Muslim. His mother wasn''t. He is not. Why are these things looked upon by some people as negatives?

Barack Obama IS the future face American. Barack Obama IS America! Not black America or white America or Christian America or Muslim America, but OUIR America! It''s time to embrace the future fearlessly and without the petty racism and prejudices of the past.

Yes WE can!
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by samthetvcat January 28, 2008 12:39 AM PST
"Historically, Southern race bloc-voting is a defensive tactic, and generations of blacks voted against oppressive white politicians. But despite changing times and pan-bloc appeals from all three candidates, race-bloc voting for too many in the South persists as a stark, oversimplified choice-- "Black" or "White"?"
Posted by alphaa10

Wow, that really captures the essence of the debate . . . it feels like there''s been progress, but is there . . .
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:42 AM PST
But if he is so wonderful and perfectly acceptable, why does he only poll 32% nationally, to Clintons 42%? Can it be that the diffence between the 78% that SC blacks gave him and the 32% national average could have something to do with his also being black?

Posted by trapbreak at 12:36 AM : Jan 28, 2008

No offense, but you don''t get it. It doesn''t matter if black voters in SC voted for him because he was black. Set that aside and support him or not because of how YOU feel about him. Hell JFK won the majority of the Irish Catholic vote. Does that mean non-Catholics should have worried about that before deciding if they wanted to vote for him? It does NOT matter why anyone else voted for him or against him. It matters why YOU wnat to vote for him or against him.
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by shanev137 January 28, 2008 12:44 AM PST
He''s going to be our next president.
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by republic1776 January 28, 2008 12:44 AM PST
I''m voting for the person with the biggest nose!
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:45 AM PST
He''''s going to be our next president.

Posted by shanev137 at 12:44 AM : Jan 28, 2008

I believe it too. I admit I''m a late convert, but I believe it too! For the first time since Bobby was killed, I believe it too!
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by jaykay221 January 28, 2008 12:48 AM PST
Rowdy Texan: Hillary was unsuccessful with her health plan because she didn''t build a consensus around it - she lacked the people skills to bring it together - too focused on partisan politics and an assumption that only she could do it. If you look at what is on offer now - Hillary''s healthcare plan would make it so that every family had to purchase healthcare, and if not face penalties for not having it. Poor people who want healthcare but can''t afford it would have it deducted from their wages! Um, how many people are living below the poverty line in your country? Obama''s plan only requires that children must be covered. He seeks to work with insurance companies and drug companies to get their costs down and make healthcare more affordable, on the premise that people want it if they can afford it.
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by tbweb January 28, 2008 12:48 AM PST
All I hope for is that Americans Vote based on the issues important to them, Vote for the best American regardless of Political Party. We need the best America has to offer. As far a Black President goes, I could care less if Sen. Obama was purple, blue or green, if Americans decide Sen. Obama is best for our nation at this point, fine with me. Americans have been here before, first Black Baseball player, first Black Football Quarterback, first Black Astronaut and on and on, and how do we feel now that all of those first have happened, I''ll tell you how we feel now, yawn! Everyone thought Nelson Mandela would be a bad President for South Africa and attack the Whites there, instead after 2 terms in office the Whites were sad to see Nelson Mandela leave office, said he was the best South African President ever! I still haven''t decided on anyone yet, but any Candidate in the race would serve well if the truth be told, we may not favor their agenda but they all are good Americans.
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by alphaa10-2009 January 28, 2008 12:50 AM PST
SgtRDS said, "Isn''''t it a bit more then a little disingeuous to present black voters with a wonderful and perfectly acceptable candidate who also happens to be black and then claim it''''s a racial issue because they vote for him?"
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But your argument is, itself, disingenuous. The candidates, issuewise, were not nearly the same-- and it was not a matter of fine print.

Yet, the one factor driving 30 percent of registered SC black voters to cast 55 percent of ballots-- 78 percent of them for Obama-- appears to be race. If, as you suggest, Obama was one of three perfectly acceptable candidates, why should race so strongly correlate unless it were The Issue with black voters?

Race-bloc voting was widely accepted by the press when it first appeared in the South because The Issue was indeed race, not political subtexts like healthcare or the economy. Voting white racist sheriffs out of office mattered a great deal.

But despite changing times and pan-bloc appeals from all three candidates, race-bloc voting for too many in the South persists as a stark, oversimplified choice-- "Black" or "White"?


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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:51 AM PST
Bottom line is that one week from now, 21 states, big states and small states, from California to New York, and Florida to the Pacific Northwest will vote for the non-super-delegates. These are all the demographics of the democrat party and this answer of race, or gender, or experience, or what will be answered by the voters.

Posted by trapbreak at 12:47 AM : Jan 28, 2008


That''s true and we must never lose sight of the prize. If Obama or Edwards or even Hillary is the party nominee, then we have to put past differences aside (and I have no doubt that we will) and support the Democratic nominee. The ultimate goal of making sure that we bring an end to the polices of the rich vs the middle-class and poor must stop. Ultimately the GOP is all of real Americans enemy.
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:53 AM PST
But your argument is, itself, disingenuous. The candidates, issuewise, were not nearly the same-- and it was not a matter of fine print.

Posted by alphaa10 at 12:50 AM : Jan 28, 2008

But I disagree. Issue wise there is no appreciable difference between Hillary and Barack, esp when compared to the Draconian GOP.
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by spinster2 January 28, 2008 12:55 AM PST
What we are seeing is the left media pushing for Barrack due to him being more liberal than Dennis Kucinich and the conservative media pushing agaist Clinton because they fear her electability.

Far left liberals want to take advantage of the democrats chances of winning and far right conservatives scared to death of her electability.

Clinton is taking it from all sides with both sides of the media manufacturing racial slurs and the conservative''s actually praising Obama more than their own candidates if you can believe that. Their licking their chops at the prospect of divideing the race but when pressed, they''ll all admit that Barrack doesn''t have much of a chance.
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by rican4obama January 28, 2008 12:56 AM PST
Obama Won because he''s views and plans for this already broken country is what we''re looking for and he seems to be the most honest of all the candidates out there. Everyone in the media only refers to Obama as an African American and not once they remind people that he''s also half white what''s up with that? Have we forgotten that Hillary stoled silverware from the whitehouse!!! Anyone that takes what''s not theirs is called stalling and has a corrupted mind and that equals corrupted in every way, sure not someone you want as a President. I think Obama will make the best judgements for our country''s future that we''ve not seen in many yrs and will be a president for the people and will look at America color blind and unite all amricans from whites,black,latinos and asians alike to regain the respect we have lost through out the world!!!
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by andersenme January 28, 2008 12:59 AM PST
In today''s Washington Post, media critic Howard Kurtz writes:

"How, then, has Obama been saddled with an image of being long on inspiration and short on details? The answer is that journalists are not accustomed to covering a candidate who moves crowds the way Obama does, who uses speech cadences and rhythm like Martin Luther King Jr. without making his talk explicitly about race. Sen. Clinton already owned the policy-wonk slot, so by default, Obama was cast as the poetic one."

There is a larger truth to the question he poses, something that finds its answer in a speech given by President John F. Kennedy (and which refutes the Clinton approach to politics)...

"When power leads man toward arrogance, poetry reminds him of his limitations. When power narrows the area of man''s concern, poetry reminds him of the richness and diversity of existence. When power corrupts, poetry cleanses."

America is tired of the arrogance, corruption and lack of that elusive thing called grace that characterized Bill Clinton''s "co-presidency" with Hillary.

Or, to put it another way, as the ancient Romans said: "When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said, ''How well he spoke,'' but when Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said, ''Let us march.''"

America is on the move again.


Martin Edwin Andersen
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by rican4obama January 28, 2008 12:59 AM PST
Obama Won because he''s views and plans for this already broken country is what we''re looking for and he seems to be the most honest of all the candidates out there. Everyone in the media only refers to Obama as an African American and not once they remind people that he''s also half white what''s up with that? Have we forgotten that Hillary stoled silverware from the whitehouse!!! Anyone that takes what''s not theirs is called stalling and has a corrupted mind and that equals corrupted in every way, sure not someone you want as a President. I think Obama will make the best judgements for our country''s future that we''ve not seen in many yrs and will be a president for the people and will look at America color blind and unite all amricans from whites,black,latinos and asians alike to regain the respect we have lost through out the world!!!
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 12:59 AM PST
Their licking their chops at the prospect of divideing the race but when pressed, they''''ll all admit that Barrack doesn''''t have much of a chance.

Posted by Spinster2 at 12:55 AM : Jan 28, 2008

But you''re wrong. It''s not a case of if America is ready for a black president, it''s a case of if America wants to change for the disastrous Bush policies and all the GOP candidates promise is to try to out-Bush Bush. Their 15 minutes of fame is over. Now it''s the people''s turn to run our nation and it doesn''t matter if the leader is black or white or id people voted for them because they were or were not a woman. Now is the time to vote for a real leader.
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 1:02 AM PST
It was designed that way to prevent another disaster like Eugene McCarthy who was nominated by emotion and lost 49 out of 50 states in the general election.

Posted by trapbreak at 01:01 AM : Jan 28, 2008


Umm....Eugene McCarthy was never the Democratic presidential nominee......
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by spinster2 January 28, 2008 1:03 AM PST
Rican4Obama

I have never heard an explination for why Hillary took the silverware but likely as not, she thought it perfectly acceptable. I''ve never heard her side of the story but the Bush''s currently eat off china that Hillary donated.
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by rican4obama January 28, 2008 1:03 AM PST
Obama Won because he''s views and plans for this already broken country is what we''re looking for and he seems to be the most honest of all the candidates out there. Everyone in the media only refers to Obama as an African American and not once they remind people that he''s also half white what''s up with that? Have we forgotten that Hillary stoled silverware from the whitehouse!!! Anyone that takes what''s not theirs is called stalling and has a corrupted mind and that equals corrupted in every way, sure not someone you want as a President. I think Obama will make the best judgements for our country''s future that we''ve not seen in many yrs and will be a president for the people and will look at America color blind and unite all amricans from whites,black,latinos and asians alike to regain the respect we have lost through out the world!!!
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by sgtrds January 28, 2008 1:04 AM PST
Rican4Obama

Right wing troll..........
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