WASHINGTON, Jan. 22, 2008
"March For Life" Gets Presidential Support
Bush Offers Words Of Encouragement For Anti-Abortion Protest On Anniversary Of Roe V. Wade
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Anti-abortion marchers walk near the Supreme Court during the annual March for Life, Tuesday, Jan. 22, 2008, in Washington. (AP Photo/Haraz N. Ghanbari)
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It's one of the most hotly debated political and social issues in America. Review a history of that debate since the historic Roe v. Wade decision.
This year marks 35 years since the landmark ruling that a woman has a constitutional right to have an abortion.
"Thirty-five years ago today the United States Supreme Court declared and decided that under the law an unborn child is not considered a person, but we know many things about the unborn," said Mr. Bush, who hosted about 200 of the demonstrators in the East Room for coffee and doughnuts.
In remarks being broadcast to other demonstrators later in the day, Mr. Bush said that biology confirms that from the start, each unborn child is a separate individual with his or her own genetic code.
"Babies can now survive outside the mother's womb at younger and younger ages," he said. "And the fingers and toes and beating hearts that we can see on an unborn child's ultrasound come with something that we cannot see: a soul."
Despite chilly weather, tens of thousands of people were marching from the mall to the Supreme Court. The National Organization for Women was staging a counter protest.
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How about holding mothers accountable for the wellbeing of their fetuses?
How about prosecuting the mothers who do not produce their registered fetuses as healthy babies with negligence or murder?
Just some ideas for those who claim they are serious about protecting the rights of fetuses.
Posted by karthur2
There were huge anti-war protests over the past few years, with hundreds of thousands marching, and they got virtually no coverage. Those events were vastly bigger than the anti-abortion effort today. I think these nut-jobs got enough attention by getting to sit with the President, don''t you think? Not too many protesters get that "privilege".
Vote Democrat.
You are an IDIOT! 48 million abortions??? What "fact page" did you get THAT FROM? I guess at your pro-life seminars where, as we all know, provide "clear and precise" information. If only your own mother had had an abortion there would be one less MORON on the planet armed with *** statistics that are absolute GARBAGE!
Right on what has this world come to.
Those 48 millions lives lost. :(
Thank you Pres. Bush!!
Abortion will be put to an end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ye have no idea of ladies who died in back allies years ago.
Yer too young to remember those years.
Yer cry babies are killed..
No yer don''t know what yer talking about.
Ye preach yer fire and hell thibg.
Yet the children we have in foster care are not worth yer time.
Would ye teach a blind child to see the world by sound.
Would ye teach a deaf child to see the world by finger spelling
Would ye push a child''s support/wheelchair with ye as ye teach him/her lessions of the world.
Would ye be so ashame a child with so needs that ye walk thinking yer better us.
Would ye judge a lady who has an abortion for medical reasons.
Ye worried about this issue yet ye the ones that are cold as ice
When will the public get thru its head it is none our business.
It is her business.
Will ye raise other peoples children.
Most won''t and they end up on the state.
Stand down on this issue.
mcvet,,dear well said..gallian1 A lady who must have an abortion for health reasons is to save the her life..If Drs. would get off their asre and fix his/her patent when she asks than an unborn would not have to be removed from the body..Some ladies have to have this done. The pain aill never go away. It is non done lightly..It must remain legal..Should she be forced to try to carry a child if she is sick 24/7 ,,I think not..
Are there still people in the 21st century, who don''t know about birth control? What planet do they live on?
I can see some men saying "to heck with it, that''s HER problem" but then why don''t women take care of themselves. Doesn''t make any sense. They''re the ones what are going to have to carry the baby for nine months & then take care of it for 18 years. Or get an abortion. Either choice is not exactly a walk in the park. And the woman is going to have to live with her decision. The key is not to get pregnant unless that''s what you want.
In a highly-developed country like the USA in the 21st century, the abortion rate should be low. Adult women should not be having that many unplanned/ unwanted pregnancies. Sure, mistakes happen. But having unprotected *** with a guy you have known for a month, is just asking for trouble. What''s the reason? Can''t afford birth control? Is he just so *** & charming that you couldn''t think straight? Are they stupid?
WOW %u2013 Nine sentences to cover an event that lasted two days, involved %u201Ctens of thousands%u201D of people and concerns the murder of almost 50 MILLION children. Give me one legitimate reason why this isn%u2019t full-front-page news? Further: Where%u2019s the broadcast coverage on the nightly televised news? This is a national event of national importance: people; young people, from coast to coast to coast travel to Washington DC at their own private expense to take a stand against this holocaust and all you can cough up is nine sentences%u2026
Shame on you: your bias is showing.
Jdw3rd %u2013 Westerly, Rhode Island
Please see the same link I suggested to gallian1 as it documents that the reasons given for 98% of all abortions are classified as reasons of convenience and not maternal health related.
We have an all volunteer service and although many of our service men and women may have enlisted during peace times they were of the age of informed consent. I admire them greatly for going into harms way and for doing the job that they signed up for when they enlisted. That said there%u2019s a world of difference between adult military personnel and unborn babies.
The babies have no choice, no voice and no means of defending against their attackers.
50 MILLION babies over the past 35 years is an average death toll of 1,428,571 each year. If you want to take up a truly just cause speak for those who can not speak for themselves and can not take a single action in their own defense.
I can agree with you about our military being an all volunteer organization and those who volunteered being at the age of consent. However, I still think that having them fight a war that is based on lies by the "President" is a great miscarriage of Justice.
Also, I believe that the many in the "pro-life" contingent have a double standard. They advocate blowing up clinics and murdering abortion docs. But claim to want to protect life????
Wow. Your powers of persuasion are unmatched. Who can argue with such intellect and insight? Way to prove you point through name calling.
Case in point, a poster gives you abortions stats, with which you disagree through name-calling. Your ignorance is showing.(You can always check the AGI website as well. It''s a pro-abortion choice organization. Their research shows there were OVER 45 million legal abortions between 1973 and 2005.)
Link:
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
"no factual basis for my opinion"???
And WHO CARES if 45 million abortions were performed? WHAT IS IT TO YOU??? No one has any right to tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body! You are a FASCIST if you think you can! Look up the word in the dictionary! I''m tired of you idiots thinking you can dictate to people how and when they can procreate. It is none of your BUSINESS if a woman wants to terminate her pregnancy! That''s between her and HER GOD not her and YOUR GOD! Get a LIFE and stop worrying about SOMEONE ELSE''S, YOU MORON!
The church said no to birth control
The church said no to sexx education
Men demand a baby of the woman.
Shw carries it and he may walk after it is born
The woman is tossed in the street if she does not get an abortion.
He will say that is not mine
This one we can''t afford it..
It was never meant as birth control.
For health reasons.
LATE TERM SHOULD BE BANNED IF IT CAN LIVE OUTSIDE THE BODY.Take in account the mum to be health issues..
On the other hand, if that which is aborted is NOT a human being, then it doesn''t matter whether one has abortions or not, as it wouldn''t be murder. It''d be along the lines of liposuction or amputation.
Sterilize women when they visit their gynecologist. He can always say "oops" if they call him to complain.
But that pill is exactly what they need. It makes sense. Give women the opportunity to take a pill within 24 hours of unprotected ***. Don''t sit there like the almighty judge of everyone in the world & say, "No. I''d rather you had an unwanted pregnancy & carried it to term. It''s what I want that counts not you. My religious beliefs are more important than your rights. Being Catholic/Evangelist gives me the power to tell you what to do."
You''re not going to tell me that what happens within 24 hours of unprotected *** is a "human being."
I''m sure you don''t care how many abortions are performed now that you''ve been informed that there have indeed been over 45 million legal abortions in the US since 1973 despite your erroneous opinion otherwise.
As far as the woman aborting her own body... Well, she doesn''t abort herself, does she? She aborts the body of her child.
My, my, gallian1. The only point you repeatedly make is that nobody should disagree with what the almighty you has to say. There may be some who pander to their God, but you only pander to yourself. The omniscient gallian1 has spoken.
P.S.
Perhaps you should get an insult Thesaurus.
I couldn''t care LESS how many abortions have been performed. It could be A TRILLION MILLION for all I care. What I''ve been saying is that no one has the RIGHT to make a woman have her child if she doesn''t want it. She is the ONE that will have to give birth, take care of it, etc. etc. You sure as hell won''t. It''s her body; she can do with it as she pleases. You seem to keep missing that point because you are stupid. Of COURSE she''s murdering her fetus, but what business is that of YOURS? And great insight about a woman not being able to "abort her own body." Just brilliant. If you are the best the pro lifers can throw at us Roe vs. Wade will stand for eternity.
p.s. I don''t need an insult Thesaurus. Calling you a FASCIST MORON is enough.
By Barbara Ann
life is living growing changing,
Children can''t understand why.
They ask why and we can''t answer their whys.
I asked my share of whys..
We are animals.
We think and do.
But just cause we can breed
Should we.
Yes and no.
Let just mind our business.
Stay out their bedrooms
As adults
We all have our cross to bear.
Do ye want to carry mine.
No ye could not.
Life is here today
Life is gone tomorrow.
As I sit here pondering life.
What does it mean.
Homelessness
street gangs
wars
greed
Lack of kindness
Manners
In short a cold world.
A people too blind to see the truth.
Wake up.
Face the real world.
Some unborns are not meant to live
in an awful world.
They belong with the angels.
Thank ye for yer time that one person cares.
As ye pray the LORD''S PRAYER
Think of the words and why Jesus prayed them
This is my prayer
Our Father who is in Heaven
Praised be yer Nane
Yer Kingdom in Heaven
yer will be respected but not forced
Give us this day our daily needs
Forgive us as ye ask us to forgive
Teach us yer love and not greed
As we walk help us see the world
As a people with needs
As a Parent try to see the human side
Understand we all suffer
See the good and not judge.
I could say more but ye know each heart.
Ye see the hell of a world.
Remember too the cross we eash bear.
Understand this is a cold world.
They nailed yer Son on the cross
We still have not learnt His goodness.
Our Leaders more blind than I
We have sep church and state in America.
We are free to come to ye
Thank ye for yer ear
Amen
Peace of Christ be with ye,
Babies are used in messy deals or like pawns. My Dad remarried and his new wife told me she felt bad, so she thot she broke up Dad''s 3rd marriage.. I told her ye did not. That marriage was over a long time ago. He walked after Marc was of age..
I can see why you might be content with that tiresome overuse of the same old insults day after day... no desire to ever expand that closed mind of yours. Yawn.
If a woman murders her child at any point in his/her development, it IS society''s business. Society also "forces" you not to kill your children after birth. No human being should have the right to murder another human being. I guess that''s where we differ. Have a nice day.
It is only society''s business once the woman has carried her child to term. If it wasn''t then a fetus would be given a social security number and fingerprinted the day of conception. Har har.
How many times do I have to tell you? It is NO ONE''s business what a woman does with her fetus. And what penalties would you propose if ever Roe Vs. Wade is overturned (which will never happen) when women keep having abortions? Put them in jail, make them a burden on an already overcrowded judicial system? How long would you keep them in jail? Nine months?
It is NOT society''s business, and it is none of YOUR business, Cabrezi. You are not the guardian of the unborn, but I AM the guardian of all those who would have their rights stripped by a bunch of mindless, brainwashed turds. How''s that for a new insult, Cabrezi? Stay out of our bedrooms, keep your religion out of our schools and in your fantasy land churches, just STAY OUT!
Women have been killing their babies since the first stages of evolution. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
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by cocamojoe82
January 25, 2008 10:46 AM PST
- "Women have been killing their babies since the first stages of evolution"? Whether or not there is truth in that statement, truth is not some democracy decided by numbers. In other words, just because a lot of people do something or think the doing of something is good and fine, does not mean that it is.
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See all 41 CommentsMy point from my earlier post has been ignored. The abortion debate should NOT revolve around a "woman''s right", but around what it is that is aborted. If it is a human being, as pro-lifer''s insist, then abortion is murder. Murder is the killing of an innocent human being. Murder is wrong. Abortion, thus, logically, would be wrong.
However, if the fetus could be demonstrated as NOT being a human being, then abortion is not murder, as that which is aborted is not human.
People who refuse to meet the debate here, where it matters, are *** addicts, who think they''re going to whither up and die if they don''t have as much *** as possible, with as many people as possible. For pro-choicers, this is what it almost always ultimately boils down to: I wanna have *** without any consequences, dammit!