7 Killed In Tijuana Gang Shootout

Executed Kidnap Victims' Bodies Found As Week Of Bloodshed Leaves 15 People Dead

(AP)  Officials said they found six executed kidnapping victims inside a Tijuana house where gunmen took refuge Thursday during a chaotic three-hour shootout with soldiers and police.

The victims, all male, were blindfolded and gagged and had been shot in the head, said Edgar Millan, a spokesman with the federal Public Safety Department, at a news conference in Tijuana.

Soldiers, state and local police were sent in to help control the firefight that began when federal agents prepared to raid a house near the U.S. border that police now say was a shelter for a cell of the Arellano Felix drug cartel.

Three nearby schools were evacuated, and television showed police running with small children in their arms while shots rang out.

Millan said the shootout killed one gunman and wounded four officers, in the latest outbreak of violence across the border from San Diego.

Four gunmen were arrested - one is a state police investigator and another a Tijuana police officer, he said. The four men will be flown to Mexico City for questioning.

Millan said officials recovered 11 automatic rifles and three bulletproof vests inside the house.

Already this week, gunmen shot and killed eight people in Tijuana, including two local police officers, as well as a district commander, his wife and his 12-year-old daughter.

Also Thursday, employees at Tijuana's City Hall and police headquarters were evacuated after receiving death threats over a police radio frequency, said Abraham Sarabia, a spokesman for city police.

Mexico has seen a spike in gang-related killings since the beginning of the year. The Mexican government has described the violence as revenge for President Felipe Calderon's year-old crackdown on organized crime that sent thousands of soldiers and federal police into violence-plagued cities nationwide.

In the central Mexican state of Hidalgo on Wednesday, assailants killed the director of public safety for the town of Tulancingo.

Jose Alvarado was shot more than 20 times, Hidalgo state police director Ahuizotl Figueroa said.

[aredrobin]

Enriquecalie is right, the problem isn''t what''s in the hand (gun, baseball bat, etc), but the person holding it. Schoollord has good intentions & can spew out statistics all they want. The root of the matter is the evil in the heart. You''re passionate about how bad gun ownership is but when you examine history it''s not the instrument, knife, bow & arrows, axe, gun, whatever--it''s who is using it. Gun ownership is important to democracy. Review your worldwide history closely, you''ll see what I mean. There''s no need to be smug about statistics. Someone can kill you with a rock in their hands or how about Marine Laurean who is on the run now & the weapon to kill Marine Lauterbach was probably a crowbar. Are you going to start quoting statistics about crowbar"NUTZ" Schoollord?? Or are you going to get it that it has nothing to do with guns but the evil in the heart of mankind. Love your neighbor as yourself the bible says. This world needs JESUS! & P.S. Sadly, people can kill themselves or someone else with anything. How sad that they have been deceived that suicide or murder is their only choice & they have no hope. There is ALWAYS hope in JESUS!! Think logically Schoollord, not emotionally & you''ll get it!! Gunownerdan is right. Personally I don''t own a gun. I''m not "GunNutz" to use your phrase Schoollord but the logic is obvious here. Hope you''ll see it. Best regards, A Red Robin

[super_hans]

Tijauana really is a lovely place, I fondly remember my time there, I was offered a spanish *******, it''s like a regualr *******, but i''m poorer and malnourished

[enriquecaliente]

I know, lets ban guns, and then when someone gets killed with a baseball bat. Lets ban baseball bats. Then when someone gets killed with a hammer, lets ban hammers. Soon enough, we''ll cut off everyones arms and legs so they can''t hurt each other. PLEASE. The problem aren''t guns. The problem is the humans.

[beehive21-2009]

In the USA, it is your duty to defend the constitution of the United States of America,this requires being armed as a citizen.If you cannot handle it, get out of the country,try, mexico or some other third world place,where they can take care of you.

[displeased]

Poor gunownerdan...he knows so little!~
Posted by schoollord

That sounds funny coming from you. Whatever you believe he knows, at least the man has common sense. If I ever find myself in a situation, I would rather have gunownerdan around than you.

[gunownerdan]

"Those are not stereotypes and generalizations!~ They are facts. Most gun deaths are related to gun lovers like YOU!~"
Posted by schoollord


Bigot

[gunownerdan]

There goes schoollord again with her stereotypes and generalizations.
How typical.

[quetzal666]

Stop the Demand and the Supply dries up,,,
Posted by Quetzal666 ...BRAVO!!! I AGREE WITH YOU,100%


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Posted by underdogus at 01:35 PM : Jan 18, 2008
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dang we actually agree on something..

[random_radar]

In the days of alcohol prohibition in the United States, there were speak easies, gangs, violence, and killings all the time.

After prohibition ended, alcohol related organized crime and violence disappeared. There are still alcohol related problems, but most of us are living just fine.

If the war on drugs ended, I am sure we would have a similar result.

[underdogus]

Stop the Demand and the Supply dries up,,,
Posted by Quetzal666 ...BRAVO!!! I AGREE WITH YOU,100%

[quetzal666]

Posted by ryindy ...

youre really a sad individual.......

Stop the Demand and the Supply dries up,,,

why must the countries along the Supply route
suffer for the Addictive nature of the U.S. Population?

[gunnerv1]

Schoollord, I''ve had a gun since I was 7 years old (.22 short bolt action) and have had firearms eversince (I also have Legal Machineguns and Silencers). I 60 years old now and the last law I broke was a parking ticket 20 years ago. I was also a Senior Cheif Gunner''s Mate in the Navy. Still haven''t hurt anybody yet (I also hold a "Lifetime" Conceal Carry Permit).

[gunnerv1]

Schoollord Please prove (with refs.)where "armed law abiding citizens" are causing the problems. If you can''t then please be quite (I''m being nice here, just for you).

[gunnerv1]

Schoollord They are Illegal Firearms as by Mexican Federal Law no one other than the Military or Police are allowed to have them.

[gunnerv1]

Sorry floydzipperhead I''m an Independent and it is a well know fact that the DemocRats want them as a "voting Base".

[ryindy]

Hmpf....Violence in Mexico. How woulda thunk it?

Cartel violence today... Tomorrow Americans will be racist''s or xenophobic''s again since we don''t want the same in our country.

I can hear La Raza''s cries now: "Whites must be the blame for the cartel violence in Mexico."

[gunownerdan]

Talking about an "obssession" with guns, schoollord is more obsessed with guns than anyone I''ve ever seen in my life!

[displeased]

You are just blinded by you obssession with guns!~
Posted by schoollord

Actually, my obsession is not as strong as you think. I think certain people with proper capabilites and responsibility should be able to own guns. On the other hand, folks lacking common sense should not be allowed near guns. I simply tend to react strongly to uncompromising obsessions such as yours.

[gunownerdan]

Most accidental gun deaths can be easily prevented with a simple education about gun safety.
Teaching children that guns are not toys and must be respected can do a lot to solve the problem of accidental shootings. Also, if gun owners would keep their guns so that children cannot get to them this can also solve many problems.

[gunownerdan]

schoollord,
Those 82,000 DGU''s you always talk about are the absolute lowest estimate out of many studies done by criminologists, the DOJ, and the Census Bureau.
Most studies put the number much higher and some are even as high as 2.5 million per year(which seems extreme to me).