Al Qaeda Claims Its Space On The Web

New Report Says Terrorists Are Increasingly Using The Web For Recruitment And Training

(CBS)  The internet has long been an al Qaeda stronghold - a center for raising money and spreading propaganda. A record 97 messages were posted in 2007.

But now, the cyber world has also largely replaced conventional training camps and has become the primary location where Islamic radicals are recruited, trained and sent on their way to carry out attacks.

CBS News correspondent Bob Orr spoke to Erich Marquardt, senior editor at West Point's Combating Terrorism Center and asked him if he would characterize the internet as a meeting place for would-be terrorists.

"Correct," Marquardt agreed, "Hence the term "al Qaeda's 'My Space'."

The Combating Terrorism Center published a report on Thursday claiming radical websites "have evolved into a disturbing MySpace-like social-networking hub for...extremists...intent on becoming the next generation of terrorists, hijackers and even suicide bombers."

"They put vast amounts of literature on these websites," Marquardt said, "texts justifying attacks through Islam, military training tactics, bomb-making skills - all of this, or much of this, has gone online."

Ali Al-Ahmed tracks terrorist websites for CBS News. He says many are one-stop shops for aspiring suicide bombers.

"They talk to you and they befriend you and they recruit you into becoming a member of al Qaeda," Al-Ahmed explained.

"So I could go in and I could find somebody to tell me about the organization?" Orr asked.

"Absolutely," said Al-Ahmed.

"Train me on how to do certain attacks?"

Again, Al-Ahmed nodded, "Yes."

"And then maybe give me directions on where I should go?"

"Absolutely," Al-Ahmed agreed.

And there is no shortage of interest, Orr reports. Pro al Qaeda internet sites have recorded millions of hits from potential recruits, called to Jihad on the World Wide Web.

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Listen to Larry Magid's Podcast about how Britain is tackling the online terror threat.

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[feelfree1]

Re: "Al Qaeda Claims Its Space On The Web"

CBS "al-Qaeda" nonsense gets dumber and dumber by the day.

Do you have a URL for any of these alleged Website, CBS?

Why would you promote these sites, without providing an example?

Is the entire U.S. government really so incompetent, impotent, and helpless, that it can''t even shut down Websites that are allegedly coordinating attacks?

Re: "Ali Al-Ahmed tracks terrorist websites for CBS News. He says many are one-stop shops for aspiring suicide bombers."

"They talk to you and they befriend you and they recruit you into becoming a member of al Qaeda," Al-Ahmed explained.

"So I could go in and I could find somebody to tell me about the organization?" Orr asked.

"Absolutely," said Al-Ahmed.

"Train me on how to do certain attacks?"

Again, Al-Ahmed nodded, "Yes."

"And then maybe give me directions on where I should go?"

"Absolutely," Al-Ahmed agreed.

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If this was anything other than ********* propaganda, I would have to conclude that this would be great news.

A Website, whose visitors can be easily traced, suggesting how and where to wage attacks?

If our "intelligence" services are so completely useless that they can even prevent attacks, when information about who will attack, how they will attack, and where they will attack, we may as well give up now.

Bob Orr appears to be a dutiful tool of the Regime.

[liberalme]

If our "intelligence" services are so completely useless that they can even prevent attacks, when information about who will attack, how they will attack, and where they will attack, we may as well give up now.
Posted by FeelFree1


I couldn''t agree with you more!!

What''s not to figure out? With this information we could track where the terrorists will hit next!!
We could probably figure our where Bin Laden is! (haha that may be stretching it)
We could even catch every terrorist in the world!!

The FBI has a teror watch list with 800,000 names on it, just sitting there, wondering what to do with it.

They want to put all Americans on the same level as terrorists by forcing us to get security licenses, Wouldn''t that work better if people were screened better when they came into this country?

What America needs is an INTELLIGENT intelligence, an honest CIA and FBI, a Congress with a backbone and a president with a brain.
Oh well, I guess we''ll have to wait til November.

[prinzowhales]

Who runs the ''al Qaeda'' website?--SITE, Intel Center or the same guys in London who released most of the ''Best of bin Laden'' and his tittilating tales of terror...?

[prinzowhales]

FeelFree1--Marquardt sure sounds like an up and coming technocrat who has hitched his career to the rising star of ''Teh-Wah''.

And now we have FOX talking about blond, blue-eyed al Qaeda...1500 or so, of them...I''m sure both Marquardt and Orr are experienced at kissing the general area from which FOX pulled that number.

[toolmangler-2009]

What America needs is an INTELLIGENT intelligence, an honest CIA and FBI, a Congress with a backbone and a president with a brain.
Oh well, I guess we''''ll have to wait til November.
Posted by liberalme at 08:44 PM : Jan 17, 2008



November of what century, surely not this (21st) century. You think it''s the GOP, They think it''s you. it really is bigger that that, bigger than the US, Globalization will take at least half to three quarter of this century before it has firmly entrenched itself beyond removal.

[liberalme]

November of what century, surely not this (21st) century. You think it''''s the GOP, They think it''''s you. it really is bigger that that, bigger than the US, Globalization will take at least half to three quarter of this century before it has firmly entrenched itself beyond removal.

Posted by ToolMangler


I was being facetious.

[feelfree1]

Thanks ''liberalme'',

You knew what I was trying to say, but just to clarify, my comment sould have read: "If our "intelligence" services are so completely useless, that they can[''t] even prevent [terrorist] attacks, when the information about who will attack, how they will attack, and where they will attack [is exchanged freely over a known Website], we may as well give up now."

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Prinzowhales,

Re: "Marquardt sure sounds like an up and coming technocrat who has hitched his career to the rising star of ''Teh-Wah''.

I had a similar thought.

Re: "And now we have FOX talking about blond, blue-eyed al Qaeda...1500 or so, of them."

I had not heard about this. That is pretty bleak, if they can sell it.

[prinzowhales]

FeelFree1-- It''s the great white al Kaader army...its leader must be Adam Pearlman...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgTtL3KcvkI

[brianbwb-2009]

OK, *nix heads, time for a little "whois", "traceroute", and a few other tricks I''m sure any sufficiently "l337" hax0rs can find out who is really behind the sites.

I already have a couple, and I am confirming the validity of the info, some should be but not so surprising names will appear on various websites soon.

I could use all the help I can get, let us take these people down, whoever they are...

[j-whitman]

I see Ossama Bin Ladens son Omar Bin Laden has dreadlocks & a black leather jacket --- Maybe that''s the new image of Al Queda, Rastafarian

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ilPHBzruBvXVHluN1IxW7sBrJhcwD8U7UOI00

[jerr11]

These crazy Islamists hate all these western, but apparently have no problems using western technology!!

Hey, as*s*holes, without the West, you wouldn''t have no INTERNET!!

Crawl back into your caves and clean out your fleas, miserable leeches.

[Con Mohrat]

These crazy Islamists hate all these western, but apparently have no problems using western technology!!

Posted by jerr11 at 01:01 AM : Jan 18, 2008

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Said Jerrli, who uses and pays dearly for Islamist lubricating oil and gasoline; or, does he have his own oil well and refinery in his basement?

Most businesses are on the internet now; if not, their advertising and spam mail is. Who cares?

[cbs_oliver]

A garbage story.

Is there a quota for how many times the word al Queda must be used in a news segment or news page?

Does the label "al Queda" actually mean anything anymore?

- or are they just stamping it on anybody they want? -- to keep fear going?

Must be.

[samsel3]

Some sites found on the web:

Al Kyda ......pizza delivery
Al Kyda.......Camel hooves trimming service
Al Kyda.......Taxi
Al Kyda.......Fine middle eastern cuisine
Al Kyda.......Belly Dancers
Al Kyda.......Sand & Gravel
Al Kyda.......Bank of Al Kyda
Al Kyda.......Official site of Al Kyda Clothiers
Al Kyda.......Tool Rental
Al Kyda.......Movie Rentals
Al Kyda.......Convenient stores

The list is endless...........

[notblue]

FeelFree1, your job must be to spend all your waking time midigating and marginalizing the threat of radical Islam, what does that treasonous job pay? What would makes more sense is you are a diehard militant. It is incomprehensible that every threat, every story about the radicals, from your perspective, is nothing more than fantasy, some gov. perpetrated "fear campaign". This agenda would only have any validity if it were not for the daily attacks and carnage brought to us by your radical brothers. However, your agenda of continuous denial is midigated by the single largest attack on American soil, namely 911.

[Con Mohrat]

Hey, as*s*holes, without the West, you wouldn''''t have no INTERNET!!

Crawl back into your caves and clean out your fleas, miserable leeches.

Posted by jerr11 at 01:01 AM : Jan 18, 2008

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It''s true the first digital computer was designed and completed by Alan Turing, a Britisher at Blechley Park who cracked the Nazi enigma code and was instrumental in winning wwII with his paper-tape drives.
But he used ARAB numerals, just like your computer does now. Or have you learned multiplication and long division with Roman numerals, or "Western Technology" as you termed it?

Funny you mentioned cleanng out fleas. It was the "Western" countries wallowing in fleas and stench when the Arabs invented soap. Perhaps your family does not use Arab inventions like soap because it is not a "Western" invention.

[cbs_oliver]

Old news - now just public information

"Jihad ideology is spreading online
Radical tracts reach new ''foot soldiers''
By Mark Mazzetti / The New York Times
Published: November 14, 2006

WASHINGTON: As the radical Islamic ideology sometimes known as jihadism spreads globally through on- line forums and chat rooms, a group of obscure Arab religious thinkers may exert more influence than Osama bin Laden and other well-known leaders of Al Qaeda, a research group at the U.S. Military Academy has found.

In a study billed as the "first systematic mapping" of jihadist ideology, the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point has found that bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, have had only a minor influence on the movement''s intellectual foundation. Among the network''s ideologists, they are seen more as propagandists than strategic thinkers.

And while the two Qaeda leaders have released a flurry of video and audio messages to their followers over the past year, the study found that the scholarly work of a group of Saudi and Jordanian clerics was resonating more deeply among those who may form the next generation of militants.

...

Although situated at West Point, the center is an independent think tank funded by private and government sources."

An update on "Duck and Cover" techniques for dealing with nuclear attacks will be coming from CBS security experts soon.

[allsnotwell]

Regarding Vet1971''s comments. The Arabs didn''t invent garbage. The so called "Arab numerals" where Indian(Hindu) numbers and the arabs just took credit for it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numeral. Same goes for Shampoo ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shampoo). So, just because you say it''s yours, doesn''t mean it''s yours. Those guys(Indians), Persians and the Greeks invented most of what you Arabs claim.

[Con Mohrat]

Those guys(Indians), Persians and the Greeks invented most of what you Arabs claim.

Posted by allsnotwell at 10:42 AM : Jan 18, 2008

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There we have it, people! Anything invented by Persians (Iranians) and Indians is Western Technology says this clever person.

[allsnotwell]

That was very clever wasn''t it, - when did it become a east v/s west discussion? I thought everyone was ganging up on the Arabs - :). My bad.

[Con Mohrat]

That was very clever wasn''''t it, - when did it become a east v/s west discussion? I thought everyone was ganging up on the Arabs - :). My bad.
Posted by allsnotwell at 10:58 AM : Jan 18, 2008
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allsnotwell, HERE IS SOME OF THE THREAD YOU DOVE INTO WITHOUT READING HOW IT STARTED....Vet1971
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These crazy Islamists hate all these western, but apparently have no problems using western technology!!
Posted by jerr11 at 01:01 AM : Jan 18, 2008
~~~~~~~

Said Jerrli, who uses and pays dearly for Islamist lubricating oil and gasoline; or, does he have his own oil well and refinery in his basement?
Most businesses are on the internet now; if not, their advertising and spam mail is. Who cares?
Posted by Vet1971 at 02:09 AM : Jan 18, 2008

[allsnotwell]

I read it, alright - I just get tired of everyone going on about "How each culture invented something" the Mayans had the best calendars in 1,000,000 BC and the Egyptians one-up it and claim theirs was from 2,000,00 BC(exaggerating) . It comes down to, nothing is invented from scratch. Scientists are not bound by national/cultural boundaries(even now) - The east contributed heavily to science and culture at one point, until religious zealotry ruined it all. By the way, I left out Babylon(Iraq), Egypt and China) as contributors(all east). As Newton said, "If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." . All said - the arguing about the cultures and their contributions is moot and tiring (applies to Jerr1 also) Sorry, If you felt targeted.

[rushman71]

Al Qaeda''s version of AOL:

Instead of "Welcome", you hear "Death to America!!!"
Instead of "You''ve got mail", you hear "You''ve got Bomb" with the sound of an explosion each time you open a letter.
Instead of "Goodbye", you hear "Death to America!!!"

[sevenveils]

Let''s give a technology award to the Arabs for inventing the black burka. Any female that tries to escape her enslavement will quickly succumb to the desert heat wearing the portable black tent.

[sevenveils]

Let''s give a technology award to the Arabs for continuing the practice of slavery into the 21''st century

[larryhammick]

The CTC report referred to is in #2 of The Sentinel, which is available from ctc dawt usma dawt edu. The articles are rather general.
One should keep in mind that the internet hosts essentially meaningless grafitti on all subjects, of which Muslim terrorist aggression is only one. About monitoring that stuff, the important part and the hard part is to sift the real operators and real plots from the pointless bombast of the wannabes.

[pilgrimsway-2009]

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya . His
mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia . Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent two years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school." Obama''s political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical.

[brianbwb-2009]

Posted by pilgrimsway

You''''re full of it. Just tell the truth and say you don''''t want a "Black" man as president, quit hiding behind lies and false excuses for your racial intolerance, that is the coward''''s way.

I am an American, non Muslim, and have lived in Indonesia for the better part of fifteen years, I have helped build, and given Jazz music seminars and demonstrations at several madrassahs throughout the country. They are just like the private catholic schools all over the US, none are training terrorists.

Even if Obama were a Muslim, that only means he respects the god of Abraham, nothing more, but the fact that he claims Christianity is something a true Muslim would never do, renounce his religion for the sake of "blending in". Some of you fake Christians might, but I challenge you to show and examples where a person claiming to be Christian was actually a Muslim.

So, admit your racist leanings, and stop wasting the time of rational people with your lies, they don''''t convince anyone of anything, except your as-yet-unclassified mental illness.

This "pilgrimsway" cowardly racist is very possibly a paid staff worker for one of the neonazicon candidates who wants to appeal to the inbreds that probably make up a portion of his or her constituency, but is too cowardly to wish to be directly associated with such idiocy.

[beehive21-2009]

Yo , low lifes ,why you want kill anyone, for some fool,( robots )who lies to you to further there cause of madness.Get a girlfriend ,drink some wine, don''t let the devil kill you ?

[skyk-2009]

I THOUGHT AL GORE DID


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Posted by ilikecats1 at 06:57 PM : Jan 18, 2008
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I guess when you are bankrupt for arguments a LIE serves the purpose huh? Course that Nobel Prize sure didn''t hurt Mr. Gore and served to remind us all of the terrible mistake we made in 2000... allowing that court and those corrupt judges to pick our President instead of INSISTING that the one who got the most votes become that leader. Thanks for reminding me and all American''s of that TRUTH!

[skyk-2009]

Instead of "Welcome", you hear "Death to America!!!"
Instead of "You''''ve got mail", you hear "You''''ve got Bomb" with the sound of an explosion each time you open a letter.
Instead of "Goodbye", you hear "Death to America!!!"


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Posted by rushman71 at 02:35 PM : Jan 18, 2008
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Would this be the same Al Queda that Bush told us wasn''t important when he went off to Iraq? Of all the failures in our history Bush may well be the biggest.

[pilgrimsway-2009]

Sorry for my comments. Its what I read at.
Do not go to this address its full of lies.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/
obama/muslim.asp

[pilgrimsway-2009]

Sorry for my comments.
Do not go to this address its full of lies

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/12/barack_hussein.html

[cbs_oliver]

This article is not an accident.

It futhers the effort to establish laws like Rep. Jane Harman''s bill H.R. 1955 which sets up a new commission and a new basis for controlling and criminalizing discussions like these based on politically and religiously based judgements of the intent of the posters.

Jane Harman''s prepared statement for H.R. 1955''s related House Subcommittee on Intelligence, Information Sharing, and Terrorism Risk Assessment hearing in November was entitled "Using the Web as a Weapon: the Internet as a Tool for Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism." The only home grown terrorists she mentioned were Muslims and one Muslim supporting Jew. No Nazis, no KKK, no Mafia, no gangs - Just Muslims and Jews.

The perception of H.R. 1955 is so bad that Chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security Bennie Thompson actually had to post a fact sheet in December arguing, among other hilarious things, that the resolution "does not legislate thought or protected political expression and free speech. There are no provisions seeking to change the criminal code or set up a ''Big Brother'' regime to put Americans under surveillance."

H.R. 1955 passed the House - mention Muslims and Terrorists and you can pass a bill in the House authorizing almost anything - even torture.

It now goes to the Senate.

[cbs_oliver]

It is too bad that Bob Orr and several others of the CBS news team - especially those covering security matters - appear to be just spokespeople for the government organizations and military business interests they cover.

They don''t report other views.

Why doesn''t CBS just ask for a direct feed? I''m sure there really isn''t much rewriting anyway.

[mcvet]

obama/muslim.asp


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Posted by pilgrimsway at 09:45 AM : Jan 19, 2008
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Can you read?? So many of you Gapped Tooth Bigots can''t. Anyway IF you can read please get a copy of the Constitution and READ IT. This is an American Citizen, an elected Representative of the PEOPLE and YOU are doing nothing but attempting to tar him with YOUR bigotry... It''s disgusting and beyond belief taken where WE the PEOPLE came from. LOL It''s hard to believe people like you can actually get through a day without hurting yourself or someone else. Sieg Heil Bush!! I''ve seen DIRT smarter than this low life!!

[kaviz]

Do you think visitors to these websites get harassed by pop-up adds like we do and what they might be. Such as ''Osamas 1000 recipes for sand cookbook'' or ''Tubins for Less''- located at a building near you thats still standing''

[pilgrimsway-2009]

Obama quote
Some of this is already beginning to happen. Pastors, friends of mine like Rick Warren and T.D. Jakes are wielding their enormous influences to confront AIDS, Third World debt relief, and the genocide in Darfur. Religious thinkers and activists like our good friend
Jim Wallis and Tony Campolo are lifting up the Biblical injunction to help the poor as a means of mobilizing Christians against budget cuts to social programs and growing inequality.
And by the way, we need Christians on Capitol Hill, Jews on Capitol Hill and Muslims on Capitol Hill talking about the estate tax. When you''ve got an estate tax debate that proposes a trillion dollars being taken out of social programs to go to a handful of folks who don''t need and weren''t even asking for it, you know that we need an injection of morality in our political debate.

This is the truth that we should read.
Obama in 08!

[ajaxtheleast]

NPR

Maqtada El Sadar: Alerts militia, too many rotten
Sunnis in the police. Prepare for possible end-
of-cease-fire fun time.

[pilgrimsway-2009]

Does anyone know if Obama is pro life? What I read is He supports abortion right up to the head of the baby coming out. That Rick Warren supports him as well? I am beginning to see a paradox in my conscious.

[downsteamjim]

To Sieg Heil needs a McVet: Your hate level today is high even for you.

To CBS_Oliver: I bet you support efforts to limit free speech with the Fairness to Hopeless Liberals Doctrine.

To SKYK: Do the impossible, cite your source.