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Innovative Energy Storage Devices Let One Concept Car Drive 40 Miles On Electric Power Alone

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(CBS)  From the outside, the AFS Trinity Power Corporation's concept vehicle looks almost unremarkable.

But the company's Chief Technology officer, Don Bender, took CBS News correspondent Seth Doane for a drive in it and told him that he absolutely loves this car.

The technology tucked inside is called "XH", or "extreme hybrid" and that is what makes this automobile revolutionary.

"The idea," Bender says, "is to make it feel familiar, to make it feel good and make it feel ordinary. It's not supposed to be exotic."

What is exotic about the car is that owners can, in part, trade trips to the gas pump for a simple electrical plug.

Finally, a "plug-in hybrid" powerful enough to accelerate to sixty miles per hour in about ten-seconds, with the range to run forty miles on battery power alone.

According to figures from the 2003 National Highway Travel Survey, that's enough to get roughly eighty percent of Americans through their daily routine.

"So," Doane asked Bender, "for most people going to the store, running errands, getting to work, those typical things - you could take this car; it would run on battery all of the time?"

"It would never burn a drop of gasoline," Bender answered.

After those 40 miles, the car switches to a standard gas-powered engine.

The innovation lies in special energy storage devices called ultra-capacitors or ultra-caps, which kick in during acceleration to protect the lithium-ion batteries.

Historically, electric cars have been mostly experimental, with limited range and performance. The problem has been developing durable and safe batteries with enough power to run a big machine.

"All electric vehicles were plagued by the same problem, which was the battery," said AFS Trinity's Ed Furia, who has ushered this technology from plan to the parkway. He says it could signal a wholesale change.

"If you can go to work, come back, plug it in, get up the next day and do that every day and not burn a drop of gasoline," Furia suggested. "Everything else follows."

The manufacturer estimates this technology will add another $8,500 to the sticker price of any car, but claims it will pay for itself in three to five years when you factor in the gasoline savings.

Getting this plug-in hybrid prototype to a track, where it operates pretty much like a normal vehicle, has been a process that's taken some 15 years, Doane reports, and it's been a labor of love.

For Furia, once a co-founder of Earth Day and EPA official, developing this technology has been a dream.

"It's almost too exciting to express," he said.

And getting behind the wheel is quite emotional.

"What we're doing is engaging in something that could produce massive change," Furia said slowly, "so there's a lot of resistance to that."

Furia hopes this technology could eventually help free Americans from pain at the pump, and America from its growing dependence on oil.

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by apenguinman January 13, 2008 12:25 AM PST
Is there any word as to when this car will be available to purchas?
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by arthurcl1 January 13, 2008 12:54 AM PST
Go to your local video store or DVD Rental and rent "Who Killed the Electric Car" GM had the technology back in 2000 and leased 1000 cars in California then because of Big Oil and GW Bush killed the leases and destroyed all of the beautiful Electric Cars that ran for over 100 miles on Electric Alone!
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by alphaa10-2009 January 13, 2008 1:26 AM PST
AFS Trinity Power Corporation deserves a round of applause for putting out the first consumer-practical benchmark into the marketplace. "Practical", in this case, is a car that reaches 60 mph in 10 seconds, and travels about 40 miles on battery power, alone.

That said, how many customers will bite at the idea of paying $8,500 extra for the option to pay their power company, rather than their gasoline station, for their daily mileage expenses?

More to the point, this projected trade-off of electrical bills for gasoline bills needs to be better than an even exchange, and strongly favor electricity-- despite the fact electrical power costs continue to rise.

Finally, nothing is said by CBS about the battery technology installed in the "Extreme Hybrid". Despite its pretentious name, are we to suppose this is standard lead-acid battery chemistry at work?

Only lead-acid battery packs supply the kind of energy output at the price premium quoted by the article. Lithium-Ion is the more expensive runner-up to lead-acid technology, but offers a longer service life-- a key factor in sticker price which should have been noted by the article.

We can only imagine EH owners grumbling as they replace their lead-acid battery packs some three to five years hence...
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by yohnvilson January 13, 2008 1:27 AM PST
I don''t see why people get so excited about these things. Electric power has to come from some place too. Maybe it''s not gasoline but it''s probably not solar or hydro either, something is being burned, or worse yet, it''s nuclear. So there''s still pollution too, but luckily the power plants are in poor neighborhoods so we regular people don''t have to care.
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by ontheleft January 13, 2008 1:49 AM PST
I''d support nuclear power over the burning of fossil fuels any day. Nuclear power supplies 20% of the electricity in this country.
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by usayesterday January 13, 2008 2:33 AM PST
It''s too bad America (and the rest of the world) is getting on this green/hybrid technology bandwagon about 10+ years too late!

But as the saying goes...

..."Better late than never."

A poor cop-out, yes, but at least the masses are beginning to think differently about our environment for the sake of future generations... if not our own right now.
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by xzs0911 January 13, 2008 5:48 AM PST
[Yawn] This isn''t news worthy. Did CBS miss the story about the Tesla that came out about 1.5 years ago? Its range is 200+ miles and does 0-60 in 4 seconds... and you can actually buy them [for a small fortune].

Detroits problem is they just cant build a light weight car, and they are unwilling to partner with companies that have solved the battery problem.

Nanosafe Li-Ion battery will: last longer than the car, charge in 5 Minutes, and function in cold weather. [http://www.altairnano.com] There are probably other as well.
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by aeasus January 13, 2008 7:44 AM PST
Ford made a V-10 hydrogen 4WD pickup with a range of 500 miles and 400 lbs. torque.

http://media.ford.com/newsroom/release_display.cfm?release=22295

Electric cars are only good for local commutes. Hydrogen is a better answer for most people.
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by johngoodnews January 13, 2008 8:11 AM PST
Citroen, Renault, Audi, VW, and a bunch more turbodiesel powered cars get 65-70 mpg. And since there are so many of them, diesel sells for about 20% less a gallon than gasoline. And there is even a biodiesel option which lets you mix about 20% biodiesel in with the diesel for an even bigger savings. But you can''t have one because they''re from Europe (France and Germany, for example) where people aren''t civilized and are very stupid and aren''t interested in the environment and so the US prohibits their import in order to protect the American consumer from these horrible little cars.
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by radiob-2009 January 13, 2008 8:17 AM PST
Explains Martin Boughtwood, PML%u2019s MD: %u201CUntil now, most electric vehicles have been little more than souped-up milk floats, limited by range and speed, with compromised performance. For those with a green conscience who also value an enhanced motoring experience, there is still something missing.

%u201CWorking in partnership with our customer, Synergy Innovations, we set out to demonstrate what our electric wheel technology is capable of. We simply took a standard BMW Mini One, discarded the engine, the disc brakes, the wheels, and the gearbox. These components were replaced by four of our electric wheels, a lithium polymer battery, a large ultra capacitor, a very small ICE with generator (so small it almost fits alongside the spare wheel), an energy management system and a *** in-car display module.%u201D
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/08/the_hybrid_mini.php
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by radiob-2009 January 13, 2008 8:34 AM PST
Hmm Porsche thought of this technology over 40 years ago.
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by aeasus January 13, 2008 8:36 AM PST
Hydrogen is an element not a fossil fuel. Any 6th grader, that paid attention in science class, knows hydrogen can be released from water with electricity. It''s just that simple! Where ever you want a refill station just provide an electric and water source.

Furthermore,do you really think it takes less energy to pump oil out of the ground,load tanker boats to ship across oceans,process through refining plants,load onto tanker trucks,then run pumps at fuel stations? When did that become efficient? Plus your shipping your dollars over seas instead of giving your fellow countrymen a job.
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by aeasus January 13, 2008 8:41 AM PST
Citroen, Renault, Audi, VW, and a bunch more turbodiesel powered cars get 65-70 mpg. And since there are so many of them, diesel sells for about 20% less a gallon than gasoline. And there is even a biodiesel option which lets you mix about 20% biodiesel in with the diesel for an even bigger savings. But you can''''t have one because they''''re from Europe (France and Germany, for example) where people aren''''t civilized and are very stupid and aren''''t interested in the environment and so the US prohibits their import in order to protect the American consumer from these horrible little cars.
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The problem isn''t the car...It''s the fuel!! USDOT standards are based on petro-diesel. If it was biodiesel these cars would burn 80-90 percent cleaner.

Change the fuel source and you have fixed the problem.


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by stanleyrice January 13, 2008 11:09 AM PST
Before you all get involved in a discussion of technologies, you might want to download the movie "Who Killed the Electric Car". And you may also want to do a little more research on hydrogen powered vehicles to realize they will not happen, nor can happen in this life time (on a large commercial scale). Why do you think the Bush Administration got concerned about the environment over night?. It was an opportunity to back a "new" tecnology that could never work, the hydrogen powered car! Until you change your power brokers in America, you won''t change the source of power for your vehicles. Corporations (like Exxon) rule! Mokenman speaks to you from self imposed exile.
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by aeasus January 13, 2008 11:49 AM PST
mokenman,

Iceland already has a hydrogen based economy. Yes it can happen,and yes it does work.

Just google it :D
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by loaddown2 January 13, 2008 12:49 PM PST
I wonder how they will address the problem of gasoline stability in the system?
These PHEVs will require some kind of check valve or built in self cleaning mechanism for the ICE power unit if you rarely go over 40 miles.
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by aeasus January 13, 2008 1:27 PM PST
How about building some solar power collecters to plug the car in to each night for recharging the battery, as an acessory. Where I live electricty is more pricy than gasoline.


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Solar collectors don''t work at night....lol
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by sjc_1 January 13, 2008 3:09 PM PST
AFS is going to the Detroit auto show this week to see if auto makers are interested. If they are not, they intend to raise capital and do it themselves. I wish them all the best in their efforts. We need to reduce the amount of gasoline used each year from the present 140 billion gallon per year level.
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by mattyann2003 January 13, 2008 5:08 PM PST
I heard you were doing a story on s.s.disability, my husband cannot work, but they have totally turned him down.This did not change his disability he still cannot work. mattyann2003@yahoo.com
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by istesso January 14, 2008 7:52 AM PST
"revolutionary" is the incorrect word. the capacitor type, NOT BATTERY, used in this car was originally invented, and described mathematically, by Hermann von Helmholtz in the 19th century. it has had many applications since. this capacitor is just a bigger higher density version. and it used activated charcoal as "plate" medium thus a way to sequester carbon and added +.
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by godseyesore-2009 January 14, 2008 9:47 AM PST
An additional $8500??!!!
I paid less than half that for a used 90 Toyota that consistently gets 32mpg, STILL. ''Payback'' becomes meaningless.
When vehicles are available far exceeding gas mileage requirements of US standards (and so for 18 years,
it shows how shameful the US auto industry and the lackey congress was, is, and will be. US politics sucks and the world suffers.
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by rf35 January 14, 2008 12:36 PM PST
This would get me around my daily route. And where I live, I don''t pay for electricity. Sign me up! I''ll take the convertable model.
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by lochlan-2009 January 14, 2008 1:01 PM PST
It is amazing how little people know about science. If you are interested enough to post here, spend the hour or two learning all the information browsing the web, that they didn''t put in the article. Start with the EV-1 and go from there.
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by rf35 January 14, 2008 4:26 PM PST
Come on lochlan, this is an opinion area...people are entitled to form an opinion without knowing any facts!
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by pepperwood2 January 16, 2008 10:08 PM PST
"If you can go to work, come back, plug it in, get up the next day and do that every day and not burn a drop of gasoline," Furia suggested. "Everything else follows."

The manufacturer estimates this technology will add another $8,500 to the sticker price of any car, but claims it will pay for itself in three to five years when you factor in the gasoline savings.

Wow...Groovy....Socko! What I like best is the up to 40 miles between recharging and the Savings that will pay for itself in up 5 years.

Wait until PPL finds out then they can double the rate charged for electricity to Mr. & Mrs. America. Aw shucks they''re doing that now. You still may be able to pay for it in up to 10 yrs. right??

But look new disposal batteries, new technology they will probably be guaranteed for 50 years?? Right?? Aw Shuckins no guarantees or warranties all you do is dispose of them along the road like we do with all our rechargeable batteries with the new technologies.

Aw More Shuckins.....you need to pay for having them disposed at a special recycling point.

Why can''t we employ more battery powered equipment for use in the home to save big time. Aw drat....the power grid during the hot summer cannot accommodate the extra electricity it takes to run AC & all our battery powered accomodations. Sounds Like another Green Team IDeeeaarr.

Fool me once shame on me. Fool me twice Just get used to the idea. Right!

Double Drat I can hear the Clintons & Al Gore CACKLING all the way to the Bank.

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