Obama, Clinton Compete For S.C.'s Blacks

Campaigns Battle For Voters That Usually Make Up Half Of Primary Voters In The State

(AP)  In beauty shops, churches and living rooms, organizers for Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton are in a fierce competition for the support of black voters in the upcoming first-in-the-South presidential primary.

Obama's campaign is counting on blacks who traditionally make up half of the Democratic primary voters here to deliver the state to him on Jan. 26, a victory that he hopes will help fuel momentum going into the "Mega Tuesday" voting in 22 states 10 days later. But he'll have to fend off Clinton, who comes with one of the most beloved political surnames in the black community.

The outreach is especially targeted at black women, who are reliable voters and who both campaigns recognize may feel loyalties to each candidate. And so far women have made the difference in the campaign - Obama won a majority of women in Iowa and took the state, while Clinton took most women and most votes overall in New Hampshire.

Juanita Edwards is one such voter. She came to see both candidates when they campaigned near her hometown of Simpsonville and still feels torn about which to vote for. Edwards said she's leaning toward Clinton because she likes that she had exposure to international affairs and health care during her time as first lady. But race and gender are on her mind too.

"I definitely respect the opportunity to vote for the first woman president and the first African-American president," she said. "If I have to lean toward one, I always lean toward a strong, intelligent woman."

In the early days of the primary race last year, Clinton had the advantage in polls here and she's won over many influential black leaders. But Obama has been able to turn that around through a labor-intensive effort aimed at black communities. He has a large campaign staff that tries to win over preachers and barbers who hold sway in the community, and those organizers also hold meetings with small groups of people - mostly women - in their homes.

The message has a different focus than it did in Iowa and New Hampshire, where almost all voters are white. It stresses Obama's civil rights work, his faith and the struggles he faced growing up, only to end up in Ivy League schools.

"Dream of a president who was raised like Barack was by a single mom who had to work and go to school and raise her kids and accept food stamps once in a while," the candidate's wife, Michelle Obama, said on a visit to the state in November. "Imagine a president who knows what that's like."

It's a story that Deborah Williams says she shares with the two sons that she's raised on her own.

"He's an example of somebody who was raised by a single parent and came out on top and still cares for somebody else," she said. "That's what I always tell my sons; you have to care for others and you have to get your education."

Williams, who came to Charleston on Thursday to see Obama speak, said she will vote for him in the primary, even though at first she was backing Clinton.

"Initially I was supporting her because I must say I'm a Bill Clinton fan," said Williams, an elementary school teacher's assistant. "But then Barack came along and had all the things to say about change."

John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee, endorsed Obama here on Thursday to send a message to South Carolina voters that Obama is not simply a candidate for blacks, but one who crosses the racial divide. It also could tell black voters who haven't been reassured by Obama's win in Iowa that he's a candidate who can be embraced by white America.

The Clintons have yet to announce a visit to South Carolina after her win in New Hampshire, and Obama advisers say they wonder whether she's going to campaign in the state. There's a theory that she could skip it, then argue that he was able to win because it was a predominantly black election.

Clinton adviser Minyon Moore said that won't happen. "It's her intention to be in South Carolina and work for every vote there," Moore said. "I can assure you that she's not abandoning South Carolina. There are trips being planned."

Asked how Obama was able to chip away at Clinton's lead among black voters, Moore pointed to a rally last month that drew nearly 30,000 to see the Illinois senator and his most famous friend. "He did have a lovely event with Oprah Winfrey, and we do credit him with that," she said.

Obama advisers say it's unlikely Oprah will make it back to campaign. But spouses of both candidates could help. Bill Clinton would be a powerful draw should the campaign decide to send him. Michelle Obama plans to campaign next week in Georgetown, her maternal grandfather's hometown.

[lochlan-2009]

"Obama, Clinton Compete For S.C.''s Blacks"

And the media are shaping the elections again.

NOTICE THAT EDWARDS IS NOT COMPETING FOR S.C. BLACKS!!!

[prinzowhales]

If Obama won''t stand up to the people who shaved votes from his New Hampshire totals, he is not worth supporting. Ditto for Paul. Dennis Kucinich has stood up and asked for a recount, knowing that it won''t affect his numbers. I think he made a big mistake asking his supporters to pick Obama as a second choice in Iowa.

The fraud in New Hampshire was in-your-face...If Americans are not going to demand and insure fair and honest elections, then we might as well be governed by the "elite consensus" that Hucksterbee''s foreign policy advisor thinks should surplant the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

[johnfrost-2009]

I''m a Psychologist and here is my take:
Obama is a pathological liar that comes from a very dysfunctional family.His mother had several african husbands who influenced Obama''s dysfunctional behavior.His father was a devout Muslim. His stepfather Lolo Soetoro enrolled Obama in the local Madrassa in Indonesia and he was indoctrinated for 6 years. Obama is a ticking time Muslim bomb.
Obama is a practicing Muslim who prays 5 times per day facing Mecca.
He was born a Muslim from a muslim father and under Sharia Law He is a Muslim until he dies.
Why He refuses to admit he''s a Muslim?
a.- The Liar wants To gain Power, after he''s elected Obama will rock the world and say: "Gee, I once was a Muslim and now I want to be Muslim again"
And our Nuclear Arsenal will pass to the hands of Al Qaida and Iran.
And US Women will be slaves forever, way below the rank of the family dog.

Islam was invented by White Arabs.
Obama is a Muslim
Arabs enslaved blacks
Obama is guiding blacks to Arab slavery

[jm_rvel]

What about Edwards? Why does the media ignor him?

[jm_rvel]

JohnFrost you need to cite your sources; are you getting all of your inforation from Limbaugh or Conservopedia? You are absolutly off of your meds my false psychologist friend!

[jack3213]

http://www.youtube.com/user/TMWKK

[lochlan-2009]

Isn''t this Edwards state?

[prinzowhales]

JohnFrost--Quite a story! That must make the Jewish Crown and Pritzker families feel pretty stupid for supporting this ''Muslim.''...General Dynamics and Hyatt Hotels....

Personally, I could care less what his religion is... what matters to me is that he has said that he would invade Pakistan, wants to "take out" tens of thousands of "activist-extremists" in Iraq and one of his chief foreign policy advisors would have had us at war in the Sudan already while he does not rule out a war of aggression against Iran.

Whatever he is, I think he does not put any other gods before Zionist money and CFR advisors.

[infidel_us]

''Obama, Clinton Compete For S.C.''s Blacks''

Let''s see.....whose gonna win this battle?????

[prinzowhales]

My respect for John Edwards goes up and down...I understand that he was at odds with Kerry...which is good--Kerry surrendered Ohio without a fight...people are now in jail for stealing that state for Bush...Kerry, like McCain, betrayed the MIAs...On the other hand, Edwards went to Naples to party with the mass-murdering b*stards who run much of the planet-- the Bilderbergers and came home to be picked as Kerry''s VP candidate...and Kerry didn''t like him! Tells you something about the process...the power of a presidential candidate...

John Edwards is from North Carolina...He has said that his biggest mistake was supporting the war...and he failed, along with the entire Senate Intelligence Committee to see through the facile lies regarding Iraqi WMDs...

He has talked about breaking up the big media conglomerates...I don''t think they appreciated it very much...

[lorinkundert]

A Hillary nomination would put the Republicans in the White House and the Democrats know this, why many of them still commit delegates to her is beyond reason.

Remember 58% and more registered voters have said they would NEVER vote for Hillary, with 70% of the Country being religious they will get out and vote.

[shutupnvote]

And the old Guard party bosses coming out and anointing Senator Obama as their new Prince yesterday placing lip stick on the same leftist Kerry pig was plain clumsy we just kissed that frog in 2000 and 2004 not likely to again,

The real change being sought by we the VOTERS is what we saw elected in 06, centrist and people like Senator Brown who is for the working class, maybe not pretty but they have values we crave, non coasters willing to do the hard work of governing, wonks that are ethical capable public servants. I celebrate that we have an opportunity to elect a competent ethical female Presidents her breast don%u2019t scare me nor her wrinkles contrary to what Kerry would have you believe breast don%u2019t disable grey cells.

[lochlan-2009]

"Obama, Clinton Compete For S.C.''''s Blacks"

And the media are shaping the elections again.

NOTICE THAT EDWARDS IS NOT COMPETING FOR S.C. BLACKS!!!

[lochlan-2009]

I am after one thing... STOP THE CORRUPTION!!!!

Is any candidate running with that as their main subject?

Huckabee is running solely on religion, but no one on stopping corruption, hmmm.

[excoachken]

John Edwards is the best candidate and the best chance to win the White House. In spite of being "swift boated" by Kerry, when you compare his character and decision making to the other two, people will realize they are being duped into overlooking Edwards by a national press that wants all the big $$$$$ that Hillary and Barrack have in their war chests. CBS and others make $Millions more in revenue if they are the two finalists for the party''s choice. Compare the life altering choices that each of these three has made and who has actually stood up for the "common man" against the huge Corporate interests. Think for yourself, investigate each person closely, don''t worry about being stylish, and stop being played. John Edwards is the one Dem that worries the GOP the most. They can destroy the other two with Rovian attacks, and we could be stuck with Huck!

[horse3farm]

from snopes.com. It is factual.
Who is Barack Obama? Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.,a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel,Kenya and Ann Dunham,a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas.
Obama''s parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, ''He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.''
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama''s mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. Keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!! Would you want this man leading our country?

[excoachken]

See, horse3farm has already launch his "swift boat" of lies! Don''t ignore fools like this--- they really influence red neck haters.

[horse3farm]

exCoachKen...check it out for yourself. All true

[excoachken]

To horse; I don''t doubt that certain parts are accurate, but obviously taken out of context. If you really think whatever middle name your parents gave you at birth has anything to do with the philosophy of life you might develop as an adult, I suggest some therapy, soon. I do not want Obama to be our next President unless Edwards and Clinton are unavailable, but I don''t think he should be defeated with innuendo, Dr. Phil psychology and half-truths.

[gunownerdan]

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both believe that law-abiding black citizens should not be trusted to own guns, just like the KKK.

www.a-human-right.com
www.blackmanwithagun.com

[johnfrost-2009]

Sen. Obama is running on a platform of "Change"(Baloney 100%)

Senator, what are you running on?
a.- On a platform of Change.
Change fom what to what?
a.-We have to change it to Hope
Hope from what?
a.- We need Change.
Change from what?
a.- We need Hope.
Hope from what?
a.- We need Change.
Change from what?
a.- A policy of Hope
How do you do that?
a.- With Change.
Change from what?
a.- To a change to Hope.
moving on senator, did you smoke and sold crack to others?
a.- Next question.
Did you answered 139 times Present to yes or no questions in the senate floor?
a.- Next question.
Did you smoked crack in the senate floor?
a.- Next question.

[johnfrost-2009]

I''m a Psychologist and here is my take on Obama''s baloney :
Obama is a pathological liar that comes from a very dysfunctional family.
His mother had several african husbands who influenced Obama''s dysfunctional behavior.
His father was a devout Muslim.
His stepfather Lolo Soetoro enrolled Obama in the local Madrassa in Indonesia and he was indoctrinated for 6 years.
Obama is a ticking time Muslim bomb.
Obama is a practicing Muslim who prays 5 times per day facing Mecca.
He was born a Muslim from a muslim father and under Sharia Law He is a Muslim until he dies.
Why He refuses to admit he''s a Muslim?
a.- The Liar wants To gain Power, after he''s elected Obama will rock
the world and say: "Gee, I once was a Muslim and now I want to be Muslim again"
And our Nuclear Arsenal will pass to the hands of Al Qaida and Iran.
And US Women will be slaves forever, way below the rank of the family dog.

Obama has confessed doing and selling drugs.
But, has Obama done rehab for his addiction to crack cocaine?
When we asked him, he called racists and walked away offended.
He''s no facing the fact he''s still a drug addic,t a junkie. That''s why He''s so skinny and spaced out at times.

Islam was invented by White Arabs.
Obama is a Muslim
Arabs enslaved blacks
Obama is guiding blacks back to Arab slavery

[lochlan-2009]

TO beat Obamah all a republican candidate has to ask is, "what is your opinion on welfare?" and he is done.

[thgdriver]

So lurch is out of hiding since the mid term elections and the first thing he does is put a knife in the back of his Vice President running mate of 2004.

Makes you wonder what he would do now, if he had won in 2004 and was running for reelection. Does he still bury a knife in Edwards back?

The man is not credible, Obama should have said thanks but no thanks.

[thgdriver]

Where is Obamas explanation of Change?? Change what to what to arrive at what??

Change by itself does nothing but clear the air for awhile. We change the baby but we all know an hour later we wind up with more shiit. Change by itself does nothing

[gunownerdan]

"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual ... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of."
- Suzanna Gratia-Hupp

www.a-human-right.com

[tibu987]

"Change" is not a frivolous political word.
And just what is wrong with using "change" as a political tool?
We want a change with the war in Iraq.
We want a change in the tax rate that will tax millionaires as they do the little people.
We want to change the porkmeisters in Washington, the old guard which accomplishes nothing more than the feathering of their own nests.
We want change in the way our schools and teachers are faltering.
We want change in the care of our infrastucture.
We want to change our unsafe streets into safe streets.
And, I could go on and on.
Naive, perhaps, but "change" has to start at the top.

[tibu987]

I challenge "Psychologist" John Frost to a more detailed accounting of Obama''s failings.
My own experience, having lived out of the country for many years just made me appreciate this country all the more as I believe Obama does.
Here is a message from the press in, I think, 1995:
"I am surprised at how many elected officials-even the good ones-spend so much time thinking about the mechanics of politics and not matters of substance. They have this poker chip mentality, this overriding interetest in retaining their seats or in moving their careers forward, and the the business and game of politics, the political horse race, is all they talk about. Even those who are the same page as me on the issues never seem to want to talk about them."
That statement by Obama in 1995 says loads about him and his use of the word "change".

[g02342000]

John Edwards is the only one that will fight poverty and bring health care and education to the poor & middle class of America. The Edwards / Biden ticket would be the best Presidency for all America, anything less will be as bad as keeping Bush in office forever. America deserves honest men of integrity that will fight for all Americans. Edwards is a true patriot that can make America great, he has the substinance, determination, and will to fight greed, corruption and end the outsourcing of our jobs, His economic, education, health and welfare policies are now being copied by all the canidates. Edwards spoke out months and even years before the others. America needs to think about why are the "Washington Greed, Corruption, Large Corporations and Media" trying to make this a two candidate Democratic race? Edwards is the only one able to win the Presidency from the democratic side, and any republican that is nominated will beat Clinton and/or Obama. Only Edwards can fix Bush''s mistakes!

[joesrc1]

OBAMA SHOULD STEP ASIDE.THE U.S. NEEDS A LEADER WHO UNDERSTANDS THE POLITICS OF A NATION.LIKE IT OR NOT IN POLITICS YOU SWIM WITH SHARKS WHO ALWAYS SMELL BLOOD IN THE WATER.

[bella_triana]

Go away Barack Hussein!! You need to wrap it up and come back to Illinois and do your job you lazy piece of horse manure. You haven''t worked a single day here besides vote for the early release of convicted *** offenders.

YOU WON''T DUPE IL AGAIN AND YOU CERTAINLY WON''T DUPE THIS GREAT NATION INTO VOTING FOR YOUR RACIST RUMP!

[samthetvcat]

Shoot, the new national poll numbers on the Democratic side show Clinton up about 14%.

Obama isn''t down - so on the surface the it would seem like numbers might be coming from Richardson (the experience/seniors votes) and Edwards (the ''war on the middle class'' votes). But apparently there''s been a huge shift in female numbers, so maybe the Richardson and Edwards'' male voters are actually dividing up into both the other camps, but most of the women are going to Hillary (?)

As somebody who likes the idea of bridging gaps, I find it so troublesome to see Hillary creating bigger divides and succeeding.

[samthetvcat]

Also, Bubba the ''honorary black'' now seems to be creating a racial divide too - I don''t doubt his sincerity when it came to racial issues in the past, but it winning seems to be first above all else at this point. I feel like it''s the same with Hillary when it comes to women and children''s issues - is it really best for women as a whole to have her creating a gender war?

[colonieny]

/////////LAWYeRS COST WAY TOO MUCH !!/////

I would like to see the candidates, including Edwards, go after the money grubbing lawyers, who charge the average guy 300 to 450 dollars per hour- working people like me ! just for us to exercise our constitutional rights ! Just as we have medical bills not due to any "fault", we have legal issues arise - just for living. Why should I go broke just to exercise my consitutional rights ??
Crooks and corporations take advantage of us, and the so called "lawyers" are part of the cottage industry to take our money, just so that we can live in peace.

When will Hillary, Obama, and Edwards come out for FREE LEGAL RIGHTS ! Free us from the burden of litigation that has ruined the working people of America !!!

[rmeoses]

LOL lol go2342000 you are a pathertic little work ,Johns Edwards is a Obam back *** licker.the way he and you hussan islamic Obama attacked Hillary wow now theres a out and out liers and tell you what .when all comes down said and done if Hillary loses there will be a lot of demos turning to the republican party .just watch and see.

[lgander]

Why does everyone think that blacks are so stupid as to vote for a minority JUST to have a minority elected - whether it''s a woman or another black man???

ARE WE SAYING THAT BLACKS WILL DISCRIMINATE AGAINST SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT A MINORITY???????????

Think about it. I wouldn''t be surprised if they vote in the Republican primary....

[realpatriot1]

johnfrost,

I''m not a psychologist but here''s my take on your opinions and you degree of professionalism.

There''s no clinical basis for you to call his family dysfunctional; your expression of a professional opinion on a family you haven''t interviewed reminds me of Bill Frist diagnosing Terry Shiavo from the Senate floor. You provide no examples to reinforce your claim that he''s a pathological liar; you seem to have him confused with Bill Clinton & George Bush.

I don''t know how devout his father was or how many African husbands his mother had but neither is a crime or dysfunctional.

His mother enrolled him initially in the Madrassas and then transferred him to a catholic school; these were the best schools in their area of Indonesia. Again, no crime. Your claim that he''s a practicing Muslim is a bold-faced lie and you know it. A memeber of the United Church of Christ doesn''t care what Sharia law says, it merely means that he''s an infidel to them.

Even if your fantasy wasn''t a total lie the President cannot pass our nuclear arsenel to anyone.

He hasn''t admitted to selling drugs, another lie on your part.

Sir, you aren''t a psychologist. You''re a psycho and pathological liar and most likely a supporter of a jealous candidate.
You imply

[sjbj2322]

Just to validate a few of the comments. If the Democratic nominee is not Hillary Clinton, this former Republican will return to the Republican party because I absolutely will not vote for Obama or Edwards. Obama is all fluff and little stuff. Edwards is just a farce who desperately needs better wetting solution for his contacts and probably should have a few less drinks before he gets on stage again following a state primary. He was stumbling all over his words after the New Hampshire primary. I do agree that Biden would make an exceptional Vice President but not under Edwards. In fact that would be the ultimate slap in the face to a man (Biden) who has truly worked his tail off for this nation.

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by sjbj2322 at 02:53 PM : Jan 13, 2008

Well said!

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by SamTheTVCat at 06:33 PM : Jan 11, 2008

Actually, I see Hillary as a very strong uniting candidate with the ability to reach across party lines and get things done.

Obama is going to go in there beating his chest and trying to force only HIS agenda, whatever that is. Right now it looks like his agenda is racism, since he''s called in Daddy Al, and Daddy Jesse to do his dirty work.

Edwards shouldn''t even be in the race. He''s not only an also ran, but a person who can stand on a stage with children who''ve suffered terribly, put his arm around them and claim how much he loves them. Of course he does, they made him a millionnaire many times over. And if they hadn''t had a 99% winnable case he would''ve told them to drop dead. This man is the biggest fake I''ve ever seen.