WASHINGTON, Jan. 10, 2007

Feds Try To Tighten Driver's License Rules

Post-9/11 Security Regulations Meant To Deter Terrorists, Illegal Immigrants Face Opposition

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(AP)  Americans born after Dec. 1, 1964, will have to get more secure driver's licenses in the next six years under ambitious post-9/11 security rules to be unveiled Friday by federal officials.

The Homeland Security Department has spent years crafting the final regulations for the REAL ID Act, a law designed to make it harder for terrorists, illegal immigrants and con artists to get government-issued identification. The effort once envisioned to take effect in 2008 has been pushed back in the hopes of winning over skeptical state officials.

Even with more time, more federal help, and technical advances, REAL ID still faces stiff opposition from civil liberties groups.

To address some of those concerns, the government now plans to phase in a secure ID initiative that Congress passed into law in 2005. Now, DHS plans a key deadline in 2011, and then further measures to be enacted three years later, according to congressional staffers who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because an announcement had not yet been made. DHS officials briefed legislative aides on the details late Thursday.

The Sept. 11 attacks were the main motivation for the changes.

The hijacker-pilot who flew into the Pentagon, Hani Hanjour, had a total of four driver's licenses and ID cards from three states. The DHS, which was created in response to the attacks, has created a slogan for REAL ID: "One driver, one license."

By 2014, anyone seeking to board an airplane or enter a federal building would have to present a REAL ID-compliant driver's license, with the notable exception of those more than 50 years old, Homeland Security officials said.

The over-50 exemption was created to give states more time to get everyone new licenses, and officials say the risk of someone in that age group being a terrorist, illegal immigrant or con artist is much less.



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by the_quietman January 11, 2008 10:03 PM EST
gunownerdan
Re: "Welcome to Nazi America."
I guess you have never travelled through the check points in southern California. I thought they were toll boths and was digging for change.
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by the_quietman January 11, 2008 9:59 PM EST
bb19631
Because we are just to tired.
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by bb19631 January 11, 2008 9:19 PM EST
Anyone over the age of 50 yrs. old is not a threat, where does the government come up with this ***?
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by gunownerdan January 11, 2008 4:47 PM EST
I have an idea, why don''t we simply tattoo our social security numbers onto our arms?
That way there is no card to lose.
Better yet, let''s get a microchip implanted under our skin at birth.
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by gunownerdan January 11, 2008 4:44 PM EST
Welcome to Nazi America.
Have your "papers" ready at all times!
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by hwy71so January 11, 2008 4:18 PM EST
Again, I agree with you tucker. The illegals need to go. We have very usable procedures for entering this country. Entering LEGALLY so no one with mess with them and they can do what they came here to do. BUT, there are just so many who choose to laugh at our standards, disrepect our laws and then break them. Meanwhile there is a large number of LEGAL immigrants that have to pay for the violators in their immigration process. The INS expends manpower chasing illegals when they could be supporting legals.
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by gunownerdan January 11, 2008 3:44 PM EST
tuckerndfw,
Trying to arrest and deport all "illegals" will do nothing good for America.
Like it or not there are just too many of them and they are important for our economy.
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by gunownerdan January 11, 2008 3:26 PM EST
If you do not accept your new "RealID" national ID card, will you be thrown into one of the new concentration camps Halliburton built around America?
Who knows.
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by gunownerdan January 11, 2008 3:22 PM EST
If you are a white person, why shouldn''t the Native Americans call YOU an "illegal" or even a "terrorist"?
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by gunownerdan January 11, 2008 3:17 PM EST
tuckerndfw,
Get rid of all illegals? That''s impossible and it would require a fascist military police-state.
Calling for the arrest and deportation of all 15 million "illegals" is liek what the Nazis tried to do in Germany but instead of hating "jews" you hate "illegals".
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by gunownerdan January 11, 2008 3:15 PM EST
With national ID cards will come police checkpoints all across America to check for your "papers".
It''s easy to forget that Adolf Hitler did the same thing in Nazi Germany.
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by gunownerdan January 11, 2008 3:06 PM EST
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
-- James Madison

"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home."
-- James Madison

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."
-- James Madison

"As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
-- Justice William O. Douglas

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifist for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."
-- Hermann Goering, Adolf Hitler''s Reich-Marshall
at the Nuremberg Trials after WWII
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by oldpilot954 January 11, 2008 2:38 PM EST
In one sense anyone who travels outside the country already has a national ID -- a passport. My newest one does indeed have a smart chip imbedded in it just like the ones I hear rumored to be in the new Driver''s licenses.
I live in the Lone Star state too and, be it known, that I am against building a super-highway for the drug and people smugglers convenience. I certainly am against allowing them to enter the state before clearing U.S.customs. I have also learned that governors generally don''t give a rip what I want. If Mexican truckers are allowed to drive through they need to speak english (same as airline pilots who fly in) and they need to meet the same driver''s and equipment requirements as the US truckers. If they get caught lacking in any of these, they should be black-listed from crossing the border and their company should be fined about a year''s profit.
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by hwy71so January 11, 2008 2:38 PM EST
I also think it would be a good idea to install a chip in a car''s computer that would disable cell phones while the vehicle is in gear. This miniature transmitter could be activated by pressing the "talk" button on the cell phone.
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by hwy71so January 11, 2008 2:35 PM EST
I just think that folks knowing it as a national DL, will be less likely to try to get away with bad driving because, "that''s how it is in _____(insert state)_____".
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by hwy71so January 11, 2008 2:32 PM EST
I stand corrected. For once, tucker, I admit you are right where I am mistaken. lol Anyway, look at Texas. I sure have to adjust my driving tactics when I leave and enter Arkansas or Oklahoma.
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by oldpilot954 January 11, 2008 2:19 PM EST
richnj1 -- Bin Laden is over 50 but he has proved repeatedly that he is not going to personally get hurt -- he just wants other younger men and women to blow themselves up in his cause!
I guess I see both sides of the picture on this issue. I do not like the idea of a police state but I already have to show my driver''s license when asked by a cop, to write a check, to get on an airliner, etc. I do not know what is in that law so I don''t know what the states are required to do to comply with it. On the other hand, why do I need driver''s licenses from multiple states if I am an honest citizen? What honest citizen of the United States really needs a false I.D.? I see a potiential for abuse of this system but I also see some positive things about it in denying I.D.s to people who do not deserve them.
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by hwy71so January 11, 2008 1:56 PM EST
I think its a good idea.

I think its rediculous for the states to have different driving standards, yet we are allowed to drive across statelines. When we violate a state driving regulation, ignorance is NOT an excuse. For a person to travel from California to Georgia look how many states that person would cross. If we had a standardized driving test and identification nationwide, I''d imagine more folks would know to yield to vehicles exiting a freeway and they''d know to merge into traffic entering a freeway rather than cutting people off. People would also know to wear their seat belts so they won''t get ejected in roll overs. I''m sorry for her loss, but when someone rear ends me, I would hardly consider that MY fault.

tucker and rowdy, y''all know that Perry also wants that big division down the middle of the state so Mexicans can better travel to DFW and on to Canada and Canadians can do the same on their way to Mexico, don''t you?

Yep, I''m more Republican than Democrat, but I surely do NOT support Perry on the transpecos corridor.

I will support the national drivers license though. I think its about the best idea the politicians have come up with in several years.
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by ioweign January 11, 2008 12:45 PM EST
If this weren''''t so pitiful it would be funny!

After spending all that money--they still won''''t know how to keep up with whatever they think it will do.

The FBI has 800,000 names on the terror watch list they don''''t know what to do with.

The eavesdropping of Americans by this illustrious government hasn''''t paid their "wiretapping" bill.

Ok, just one more thing to drop the ball on!



Posted by liberalme at 09:29 AM : Jan 11, 2008

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And you thought Republicans wanted "smaller government" !!


Where is that "gut feeling" procedure that was being advertised ??


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by liberalme January 11, 2008 12:29 PM EST
If this weren''t so pitiful it would be funny!

After spending all that money--they still won''t know how to keep up with whatever they think it will do.

The FBI has 800,000 names on the terror watch list they don''t know what to do with.

The eavesdropping of Americans by this illustrious government hasn''t paid their "wiretapping" bill.

Ok, just one more thing to drop the ball on!
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