Jan. 7, 2008

CBS Poll: Obama Leaps Ahead In N.H.

New Poll Shows Obama With A Seven-Point Lead Over Clinton On Eve Of Primary

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(CBS)  Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has opened up a seven-point lead on Hillary Clinton among New Hampshire voters on the eve of that state's primary, according to a new CBS News poll.

Among likely Democratic primary voters, Obama leads Clinton 35 percent to 28 percent with John Edwards getting 19 percent in the poll. The poll re-interviewed the same group of voters that CBS News surveyed in November. In that poll, Clinton led Obama 39 percent to 19 percent with Edwards getting just nine percent support.

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By winning the Iowa caucuses, Obama appears to have put questions about his electability to rest for many New Hampshire voters. Forty-two percent in the latest poll said they believe Obama has the best chance of winning the general election, up from just 11 percent in November. In the earlier poll, 72 percent gave Clinton the best chance of winning but 41 percent of those same voters now say so.

And Obama has a large lead among self-described independents, an important block of voters in New Hampshire. Forty-one percent of independents support Obama, compared to just 24 percent who say they are backing Clinton. Clinton maintains a slight lead among Democrats, 33 percent to 30 percent for Obama. More than four in ten likely voters who say they will vote in the Democratic primary are independents.

Both Obama and Clinton are seen as agents of change, a driving theme of the campaign. While 63 percent of respondents said Obama can bring "real change" to Washington, 60 percent said the same for Clinton. But Obama has made headway among New Hampshire voters on the question of experience. Fifty-one percent said Obama is prepared for the presidency, up from 37 percent in the November poll. Eighty-one percent agreed that Clinton is prepared to take over the Oval Office, a number statistically unchanged since the previous survey.

Since November, 26 percent of likely Democratic voters have changed their minds about who to support and the latest survey indicates the race remains fluid. Twenty-eight percent of likely Democratic voters said their minds could still change and nine percent said they remain undecided.

On the Republican side, CBS News reached too small a number of Republican primary voters from the November poll to create a reliable estimate for that race. On the individual level, however, John McCain picked up supporters from other candidates, while Mitt Romney lost some of his November supporters. Mike Huckabee’s win in Iowa did not seem to gain him many new voters in New Hampshire.



This poll was conducted by telephone January 5-6, 2008 among registered voters in New Hampshire, first interviewed by CBS News and the New York Times November 9-12th, 2007. CBS News re-interviewed 323 likely Democratic Primary voters for this poll. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample of Democratic primary voters could be plus or minus five percentage points. The error on measures of individual change is much smaller.

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by marcodele January 7, 2008 11:47 AM PST
I am excited about a surge toward change and a charismatic leader. Although I think the neocons deserve 8 years of Hillary to get even with 8 years of the Idiot, Obama will probably do a great job of ushering in a new generation. Anybody but the neocons. They had six years of total power, and the damage they''ve done will take decades to heal.
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by peter776-2009 January 7, 2008 11:47 AM PST
As a lifelong Democrat, it is my opinion that Hillary is precisely the wrong person at precisely the wrong time. First, Hillary is not electable %u2013 more than half of potential voters would never vote for her under any circumstances. Second, Hillary has none of the experience she rails against Obama as not having. Other than her short time as a New York senator, she has no previous experience as an elected official, and no experience in the public or private sectors running or managing a large enterprise. Third, she is a highly polarizing force, who if elected President would be the Democratic equivalent of %u201CW%u201D: arrogant, unable to parlay or negotiate with those on the other side of the aisle (and therefore unable to get things done), and a %u201Cmy way or the highway%u201D personality type. While I consider Obama a complete lightweight, and Edwards little more than a cutie boy tort lawyer who can%u2019t help trotting out his worn out class warfare message, either one of them would serve the country better than Hillary, who stands for nothing more than the proposition of getting herself elected. Finally, we are all tired of Clinton- and Bush-style shenanigans. It%u2019s time to try something new and different. Our country is in big trouble today, and it will take a real leader to extricate this nation from the deep pit Bush has dug for us.
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by endofempire January 7, 2008 11:56 AM PST
Now that the American empire is coming to an end, I think it is a worthwhile option to consider a president who will help smooth the transition to Shariah law. Obama has my vote!
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by marcodele January 7, 2008 12:00 PM PST
Peter776: Excellent posts. Although I respect Hillary''s determination and intellect, I don''t think Americans want to continue a political see-saw between two power families. Eight years of Hillary would mean 28 years of presidents from only two families.

The word is change. And I don''t care if Obama is a Muslim, a Wiccan or a Rastifarian, he''s better than anyone on the Republican side.

Nobody has created more terrorists than Bush. It is definitely time for a change.
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by pepperp1 January 7, 2008 12:01 PM PST
Electing personalities based on marketing slogans to sell you something you dont need is a consumer stunt and when partisans buy candidates for these reasons they are endangering our country. Reaching out to HUG a Republican is not what I had in mind that requires changing, nor do I believe it is what ails this country. Corruption in office and a failure to govern competently for the People is what we need changed not across the isle HUGGING. I would have though it impossible for the Dems to blow this election but obviously if these polls represent the party trend I am wrong. Democratic leaning voters are not loyal to party first but to our county you partisans may well need to keep this is mind for a real Change.
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by cbs4me3 January 7, 2008 12:09 PM PST
Fortunately, there is time for the media to answer the question on Obama, "Where''s the beef?" Why vote present so many times as a state senator? And why is the right wing so silent of him? They must be licking their chops right now. We have his rhetoric but where is the substance? Get real people.
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by setumstrt9 January 7, 2008 12:11 PM PST
To all you Hilary idiots,

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by pepperp1 January 7, 2008 12:14 PM PST
The whiny hyperbolating leftist moonbats are gonna save the GOP. Thanks morons!

Posted by CaliDoc at 12:04 PM : Jan 07, 2008



Unfortunately you may be correct the go HUG A REPUBLICAN slogan whether thats what needs changing or not got them. Oh well divided government is better and I question the Parties activist and the ability of the Dems to put forth a competent candidate going instead again with the light weight feel good guy wonder what this one will do when the swifties come and they will hopefully there are no photots, hug a piranha, and sick Oprah on them no doubt%u2026

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by prinzowhales January 7, 2008 12:18 PM PST
Obama or Clinton...just War Pigs in Sheep''s Clothing...Looks like we will get to see the Neo-Lib Democratic corollary to Neo-Con Republicanism win in New Hampshire...and, like poor Mrs. Robinson in the Beatles'' song,...''anyway we look at it we loose,'' if we are for peace and against the War Pig Oligarchy.
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by pepperp1 January 7, 2008 12:24 PM PST
Why would they bother they after all are the same the free press that brought us confirmation of WMDs re the NYTs and the bogus threat of Iraq. If the parties put forth these two poster men one right one left it will only serve as another clear message that the CHANGE required is in the electoral college and the two party system the unfortunate result will be until that is resolved more disastrous governance and the selection who can do the least amount of harm while that process is undone.

Hopefully Senator Clinto can hold on until the middle has a chance to vote for nominee or she may consider running as an Independent.
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by hillaryin08 January 7, 2008 12:26 PM PST
Hey, I have change for a twenty, can I be president?
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by lklimek-2009 January 7, 2008 12:30 PM PST
Your apparent inability to objectively report on the significant issue or Republican poll trends, extremely dynamic as we get down the wire in N.H., is disappointing. Your reporting on McCain and Romney polling is real bogus -- while you come up with a lame excuse that you couldn''t make enough phone calls to Republicans, you pad the piece with some sort of real weak reporting of the current trends by saying, "On the individual level, however, ..."

Real sophomoric reporting. Tell me what is to be derived by the reader from such a subjective (without any qualification at all) statement, or what is your purpose of peddling such rank and muddled verbiage? You submit supposition of a definitive and measurable trend with nothing of measure -- you are hilarious, but surely not to be considered a knowledgeable source or reference. This, of course, leads me to legitimately question the actual validity of any presentation of data, or poll results.
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by hhkeller January 7, 2008 12:31 PM PST
Obama gets the free ride.

Obama votes to continue the war in IRAQ and nobody questions.
Obama votes for Patriot Act without Civil Liberty safeguards and nobody questions.

How this guy gets a free ride to the White House is beyond me.

The Primary is the time to hold these dopes responsible for their votes.
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by talkingham January 7, 2008 12:40 PM PST
I can tell you the republican trend. They are voting in the dem primaries against Hillary to produce a candidate they know they can beat. Otherwise how to you get 3 times as many voters in Iowa for Dems over repugs. Do the math.
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by samthetvcat January 7, 2008 12:42 PM PST
I guess polling must be expensive, because nobody''s done polls in other States for a while. I''m curious about whether Hillary''s still holding in states like Nevada where she held a commanding lead a couple of months ago. Because the national numbers seem to be in great flux.

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by pepperp1 January 7, 2008 12:46 PM PST
can tell you the republican trend. They are voting in the dem primaries against Hillary to produce a candidate they know they can beat. Otherwise how to you get 3 times as many voters in Iowa for Dems over repugs. Do the math.


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Posted by talkingham at 12:40 PM : Jan 07, 2008



nothing would surprise me.
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by lklimek-2009 January 7, 2008 12:50 PM PST
Your apparent inability to objectively report on the significant issue or Republican poll trends, extremely dynamic as we get down the wire in N.H., is disappointing. Your reporting on McCain and Romney polling is real bogus -- while you come up with a lame excuse that you couldn''t make enough phone calls to Republicans, you pad the piece with some sort of real weak reporting of the current trends by saying, "On the individual level, however, ..."

Real sophomoric reporting. Tell me what is to be derived by the reader from such a subjective (without any qualification at all) statement, or what is your purpose of peddling such rank and muddled verbiage? You submit supposition of a definitive and measurable trend with nothing of measure -- you are hilarious, but surely not to be considered a knowledgeable source or reference. This, of course, leads me to legitimately question the actual validity of any presentation of data, or poll results.
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by butch350 January 7, 2008 12:53 PM PST
I hear all the moaning and groaning about the candidates and their positions. Well...all you
moaners out there. Just exactly are you looking for
in a candidate? What makes your *** candidate so
special? GO AHEAD TELL US! Why is your candidate so
*** the right one?
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by kailumego1 January 7, 2008 12:54 PM PST
There is some talk that Republicans are baking Obama to ensure during election time their candidate will win, because they''re banking on the ideological belief that white folks will never elect a black man for president.

This is the talk on most black radio stations and among some elites and working-class blacks, that which Obama is being set-up by staunch Republican conservatives and white supremest groups to "swing" the Democratic vote to Republican when election time comes around.

I''ve heard this argued on numerous of black radio stations and among various classes. It will be interesting to see if this is true!



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by brianp55 January 7, 2008 12:55 PM PST
Hillary''s slide is in direct response to the loathing with which the Bush administration and the current Congress are viewed. The common dislike is so intense, that voters are driven to search for a radical alternative.....just like Carter defeating Ford after Watergate. Unfortunately for Hillary, just being a woman is not sufficient. It may seem strange, but I''d bet that if Bush was a more popular President, Hillary would actually defeat Obama with less effort. Still, we have to wait and see how they perform in the southern states.
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by hypnotoad72 January 7, 2008 12:58 PM PST
Can''t we talk about Huckabee''s "FairTax" instead? Otherwise a decent candidate, it takes little scrutiny to see how the plan makes no sense, will really add to government deficits... so if there''s no plan to repay $9 trillion already, this new tax scheme just can''t cut it. Had we not the current debt, and a society whose economy thrives on spending (so why this tax plan is sold as encouraging saving, I have no idea), I''d be more inclined for it...
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by b-easy63 January 7, 2008 1:00 PM PST
This is almost too funny. If Hilary does not stop the slow bleed--these flukes of Obama''s will translate into a landslide and perhaps a historic moment but not the one Hilary envisioned. The fact is--Obama gets liked the more he speaks and becomes more acceptable the more he wins. Hilary and the Republicans (sounds like a band) should learn that Americans are tired of more of the same and this war--to embrace it in any form may only allow a minority of supporters to embrace the candidate.

Hilary is a "hold your nose and vote" candidate--if given a viable option, neither party wants her--her values and mores are too flexible and she''s a bit too much the Republican clone, these days. "Devil in a blue dress, Blue dress on...Devil in a blue dress on..."
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by samthetvcat January 7, 2008 1:01 PM PST
"I can tell you the republican trend. They are voting in the dem primaries against Hillary to produce a candidate they know they can beat. Otherwise how to you get 3 times as many voters in Iowa for Dems over repugs. Do the math."
Posted by talkingham

That sounds like something Hillary might think because she thinks everything is about her.

There''s something almost patriotic about voting down Queen Hillary - it''s like a rebirth of America in the spirit of the American Revolution. Down with the establishment, up with the people!

When Hillary attacks Obama, people feel like she''s just trying to maintain her power and dominance. I don''t think it''s going to work.
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by sanightengal January 7, 2008 1:03 PM PST
IF you wouldnt hire a person with little or noe experience to work on your car, home, or even be your Lawyer, why would you vote for a person who has no experience to be our President? People think, most people will say what they want you to hear to get elected. Dont fall for Obamhas Line of Change. Look at his record, what has he really done? NOTHING...
so what do you think he will do for us? NOTHING,
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by January 7, 2008 1:03 PM PST
Of course, the Republicans want Obama so that they can galvanize their racially prejudiced base and add some more racially prejudiced Democrats to the numbers.
Obama is a consummate speaker, a real feel-gooder and this is appealing. He is not my first choice, but I would vote for him any day over any of the Republicans. Never have I seen more mindless leadership than the present Administration and all the Republican candidates are singing the same tune!
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by b-easy63 January 7, 2008 1:07 PM PST
F you wouldnt hire a person with little or noe experience to work on your car, home, or even be your Lawyer, why would you vote for a person who has no experience to be our President? People think, most people will say what they want you to hear to get elected. Dont fall for Obamhas Line of Change. Look at his record, what has he really done? NOTHING...
so what do you think he will do for us? NOTHING,

Posted by sanightengal at 01:03 PM : Jan 07, 2008


On the other hand, to extrapolate your point, most of us would rather hire a novice than hire a dr. known for malpractice, a shyster lawyer or a sleazy mechanic that creates most of the problems with your car so he can fix them.

The fact is--we have been given a boatload of people we neither trust, like or respect. Given that--many are loathe to knowingly do what we did for Bush--give the reins to a devil we only think we know......

They are losing not based on lack of experience, but based on the experiences that many of us have had with them in charge.
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by buddhabman January 7, 2008 1:10 PM PST
talkingham - If you think Republicans are sandbagging for Obama to sink Hillary, nice try. Iowa in the bigger cities of Des Moines, Iowa City, Davenport are pretty Blue - Democratic. It''s pretty likely he got new Democratic voters and independents. This is a real deal, real moment in history. Any negatives that Obama might register in terms of experience will be mitigated with an experienced VP like a Dodd or Richardson. If Hillary goes down then it''s Obama or Edwards, and either of those candidates will be hard to beat as they will bring alot of new Democrats into the vote.
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by samthetvcat January 7, 2008 1:10 PM PST
"Barak the magic negro
Lives in DC"
Posted by NameVerified

You know what''s the difference between Hillary and Barack is that Hillary would take you down in a very painful and humiliating way if you tried to trivialize her in that way. Barack would invite you to let him know if what frustrates you about your current life so that he can help.

I don''t think enough is said about strength coming in different forms . . .
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by jaxfax-2009 January 7, 2008 1:11 PM PST
"Can you imagine if Hillary won

Any time she would want to communize another sector of society (after health care),
all the Clintonista brownshirts would be goose-stepping around
like politically-correct brain-dead zombies chanting:

"do it for the children"
"do it for the children"
"do it for the children" ,,,, ad nauseum"
I had to laugh and point that out one more time. TOO funny.

Either way, being a young voter myself. I have yet voted for a president. And this seems to be the hardest time to just jump in here, but I feel that my vote really does count and I need to get my head into this a little bit more.
Take out Obama and Clinton and you have lost all your good stories, interestingly enough. What I think is the press should get their heads out of their rear ends and actually start reporting the important stuff instead of sitting around pointing and saying, "She has boobs and he is black". WHO CARES!! It''s not 1960, times change.
But to be quite frank I have no idea what will happen, and I am clueless as to my decision.
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by grazinggoat January 7, 2008 1:15 PM PST
"Barak the magic negro
Lives in DC"
Posted by NameVerified

You know what''''s the difference between Hillary and Barack is that Hillary would take you down in a very painful and humiliating way if you tried to trivialize her in that way. Barack would invite you to let him know if what frustrates you about your current life so that he can help.

I don''''t think enough is said about strength coming in different forms . . .

Posted by SamTheTVCat at 01:10 PM : Jan 07, 2008

-Well said, TVCat. Obama is a new energy powered strain of Americans. World, watch out!
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by pepperp1 January 7, 2008 1:16 PM PST



Look grin smile, arent I cute, isn%u2019t my family cute, look Oprah, Mattews, Russert, Novak and Rove like me, why would I need a record trust ME I am a uniter not a divider wink wink you NEED this change again you need this change, I voted present as to not offend my buddies across the isle I just want to Hug...OH Please. If the Dems are mis guided enough to send us another weak candidate we all know the options the swifties will tear him to shreds as they I guess should, gun foot etc%u2026wonderful record the Dems and it will bring divided government to boot, something%u2019s never change partisans fall for any marketing line and pretty face that spews their sound bite. Weak leaders put us all at risk.

Ok go on go hug a Republican just the change you need sure then they will vote with ya uh huh sure..
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by antoniof123 January 7, 2008 1:18 PM PST
Like I said before it doesn''t matter at this point no Republican can win America has had enough of the worst President in history. They have also had enough of the Republican congress to last 100 years.
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by vastr-wcon January 7, 2008 1:20 PM PST

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Here''s the "case" for O-BOMBA:

1. He is the most ignorant, inexperienced and lest-capable Dem politician running for president.

2. He is a total hypocrite on lobbyists. His efforts in support of Illinois lobbyists have cost US taxpayers $12 million - so far. (Documented by Brian Ross on July 16 - see ABC NEWS website).

3. His shady real-estate dealings with his partner-in-crime, sleazy lobbyist Tony Rezko stink! - especially O-BOMBA''s deal to buy the lot next to his Chicago mansion for a bargain-basement (pay-off-like) price from Rezko.

4. He wants to bomb Pakistan.

5. O-BOMBA is so devoid of creative thought, he has to steal the campaign ideas of John Edwards on healthcare, poverty and nuclear proliferation and try to pass them off as his own.

6. What''s that white powder around his nostrils? (Must have had a powdered sugar donut, right?)

Eight years of having bumbling morons in charge is enough. America can, and MUST, do better than O-BOMBA.

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by trillion1 January 7, 2008 1:20 PM PST
Hillary would be the best thing for the GOP. Obama is the second.
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by paris1969 January 7, 2008 1:21 PM PST
Obama is the GOP favorite for the Democratic nominee .. because they know they can beat him ... they can''t beat Clinton!
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by buddhabman January 7, 2008 1:21 PM PST
sanightengal - What had Bush done before he was elected. He was handpicked by the NeoCons cause they new they could mold him into any monkey shape they choose. Barack is if nothing else, at least smart and will attract the brightest of talent, unlike the talentless Republicans. Can you imagine Thompson or Rudy or that used car salesman Romney as your president. Your only hope is for a McCain Huckabee ticket.

Regardless, a vote for a Republican in 08 is a vote for the culture of incompetence, cronyism, divisiveness. It''s time to vote for a candidate who wants to and can lead the whole country and not just their party.

Obama 08
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by mike71067 January 7, 2008 1:23 PM PST
A hardball question tossed at Hillary in New Hampshire:

"My question is very personal, how do you do it?" asked Marianne Pernold Young, a freelance photographer from Portsmouth, New Hampshire. "How do you, how do you keep upbeat and so wonderful?"

Some people should not be allowed to vote.
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by kailumego1 January 7, 2008 1:24 PM PST
tuckerndfw, my comment, I was stating what I''d heard on several black radio stations, if you had cared to comprehend the "context" of my post.

I''ve heard this enough to bring it to this forum, I thought, I repeat, I thought, you''ll were intelligent enough to dialogue on this comment, without the primitive feedback.

And NameVerified your comment demonstrates how narrow-minded and dimwitted you are, how did you get from my comment, I"m a disgruntled "Negro", let along a male...

And I''m not "grandstanding" for the Clintons'' either, I was simply stating what I''ve heard, so try reframming from jumping to conclusions without examining all the facts.

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by mike71067 January 7, 2008 1:25 PM PST
"Regardless, a vote for a Republican in 08 is a vote for the culture of incompetence, cronyism, divisiveness. It''''s time to vote for a candidate who wants to and can lead the whole country and not just their party."
-Posted by Buddhabman at 01:21 PM : Jan 07, 2008

It looks like the crazy ward at the local hospital just had an escapee! And that lunatic found a PC to type on! Offer him a box of crayons and lead him back to safety.
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by pepperp1 January 7, 2008 1:26 PM PST
Like I said before it doesn''''t matter at this point no Republican can win America has had enough of the worst President in history. They have also had enough of the Republican congress to last 100 years.


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Posted by antoniof123 at 01:18 PM : Jan 07, 2008


Sorry I disagree the People will not elect another incompetent leader, trade a smirk for a grin. Divided government has always been preferred and if Congress and I believe it will and should stays in the hands of the Dems, then its is easy for the electorate to reject a nominee as weak as Obama, it will be easy for me anyway, competence matters, intellect matters, track records matter, ethics matter not just Personality that%u2019s a recipe for disaster. I know I could vote for someone I don%u2019t like but is competent but I could not vote for an empty suit.
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by roger_inkart January 7, 2008 1:27 PM PST
Moderates and independents - who are TOTALLY soured on the GOP - will vote Dem in ''08. I believe Mr. Obama will overcome the fear and smear Republicans and bring change to American politics.

You hardcore rightwingers have seen the apex of your power and influence. Hope you had fun. You did so at the expense of the nation. It''s time to let responsible adults govern the nation again. The spoiled, self-entitled little idiots like GW can all join greedy, slimy lobbying firms where they belong.
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by usbrit-2009 January 7, 2008 1:30 PM PST
and, like poor Mrs. Robinson in the Beatles'''' song,...''''anyway we look at it we loose,'''' if we are for peace and against the War Pig Oligarchy.

Prinzowhales - You just proved your ignorance. The quote is "anyway you look at it you loose" and it was by Paul Simon - not the Beatles. If you''re going to try to impugn liberal icons, at least get the icon right.

As for CaliDoc - I bet you live in Orange County and voted for that pre-neocon piece of slime Bob Dornan. Where did he slither off to when he got beat by the Mexican gal Huh? Same place as all of your type will be in Feb 2009. BTW I''ll be in OC next week, I''ll be sure to pi*ss on it in your honor.
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by roger_inkart January 7, 2008 1:38 PM PST
Hillary is right now setting in motion the process to destroy the Democrat Party.

Posted by NameVerified at 01:30 PM : Jan 07, 2008

Why on earth do you care? This is conspiracy nonsense from a disordered brain.

Or are you just showing the true colors of the fear and smear party because you yourself are scared of what will happen this November?
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by jon2012-2009 January 7, 2008 1:39 PM PST
No doubt Obama is charasmatic and has run a brillian Campaign.... BUT so far, he has not been asked TOUGH questions.... Republicans and FOXNews have kept quiet, waiting till after the Nomination....
If he wins, good luck to Democrats....
Republicans will win the next term.

America has gone too far to put an average Joe in-charged.
Posted by metroduck75 at 12:57 PM : Jan 07, 2008

This country isn''t unlike many others in the Third World, putting more value to "ability to connect" than substance. But it''s too early to lose hope already.


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by buddhabman January 7, 2008 1:40 PM PST
Repugs. You saw what happened in 06, just wait for 08.

Hillary, Obama, Edwards, it doesn''t matter. The Republican, Rightwing, KKK, Nazi, Swift Boating 529''s are going to face the best organized and funded Progressive 529''s you have ever seen.

Say your prayers, bring your best shot and be ready to get buried.


"Regardless, a vote for a Republican in 08 is a vote for the culture of incompetence, cronyism, divisiveness. It''s time to vote for a candidate who wants to and can lead the whole country and not just their party."

Just a crazy Liberal

Obama 08
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by neobrian-2009 January 7, 2008 1:51 PM PST
Repugs. You saw what happened in 06, just wait for 08.

Hillary, Obama, Edwards, it doesn''''t matter. The Republican, Right-wing, KKK, Nazi, Swift Boating 529''''s are going to face the best organized and funded Progressive 529''''s you have ever seen.

Say your prayers, bring your best shot and be ready to get buried.
Posted by Buddhabman at 01:40 PM : Jan 07, 2008
AMEN !!
A Great Post!! This Says IT ALL !
The USA has Seen Enough !
RETURN OUR COUNTRY !!!!! ASAP !
It`s Been SOLD,,..We Want it Back,..Punish the Thieves too,..The Shrub MUST be held Accountable!
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by pepperp1 January 7, 2008 1:52 PM PST
Look grin smile, arent I cute, isn%u2019t my family cute, look Oprah, Mattews, Russert, Novak and Rove like me, why would I need a record trust ME I am a uniter not a divider wink wink you NEED this change again you NEED this change You WANT CHANGE dang it, I voted present as to not offend my buddies across the isle I just want to Hug.... If the Dems are mis guided enough to send us another weak candidate like Obama we all know the options and the swifties will tear his personal history and lack of a record to shreds as they I guess should, gun foot etc%u2026wonderful record the Dems and it will bring divided government to boot, something%u2019s never change, partisans fall for any marketing line and a pretty face that spews their ideological sound bite and they are blinded by their projection on the country. Weak leaders put us all at risk. An Independent party for us over 50, non clinical personality disorder inadequate types appears to be required for a decent candidate to get through this process imagine a Huckabee Obama election as the only choices, which can do the least harm, cringe.
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by peter776-2009 January 7, 2008 1:53 PM PST
As a lifelong Democrat, I believe Hillary is precisely the wrong person at precisely the wrong time as a candidate for President. First, Hillary is not electable %u2013 more than half of potential voters would never vote for her under any circumstances. Second, Hillary has none of the experience she rails against Obama as not having. Other than her short time as a New York senator, she has no previous experience as an elected official, and no experience in the public or private sectors running or managing a large enterprise. Third, she is a highly polarizing force, who if elected President would be the Democratic equivalent of %u201CW%u201D: arrogant, unable to parlay or negotiate with those on the other side of the aisle (and therefore unable to get things done), and has a %u201Cmy way or the highway%u201D personality. While I consider Obama a complete lightweight, and Edwards little more than a cutie boy tort lawyer who can%u2019t help trotting out his worn out class warfare message, either one of them would serve the country better than Hillary, who stands for nothing more than the proposition of getting herself elected to office. Finally, we are all quite tired of Bush- and Clinton-style shenanigans. It%u2019s time to try something new and different. Our country is in big trouble, and it will take a real leader to extricate this nation from the deep, deep pit Bush has dug for us.
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by micma-2009 January 7, 2008 2:02 PM PST


On issue after issue, while Democrats offer real solutions and new ideas to provide the American people with the change they want, the Republicans can only offer a third Bush term.
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by usayesterday January 7, 2008 2:03 PM PST
Let''''s get to the simplicity of the matter. Women are more intelligent than men. The country, and thus, the world is a mess after Bush. So we need the best and most intelligent candidate to run our country ASAP. Vote Clinton.

Posted by onodream at 01:55 PM : Jan 07, 2008
..............

No.

Women are no more intelligent than men, they''re just better bull *********.

Just take the average married couple...

Wife says: "I think the sky is green........ RIGHT HONEY!"

Husband says: "Yes dear."
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