WASHINGTON, Jan. 6, 2008

McGovern: Impeach Bush, Cheney Now

Former Democratic Candidate Says Crimes Of Current Administration Worse Than Nixon's

  • Former Sen. George McGovern, who campaigned against Richard Nixon amidst the unfolding Watergate scandal, said that the crimes of the Bush/Cheney adminstration are worse than those of Nixon's, and that seeking their impeachment is Photo

    Former Sen. George McGovern, who campaigned against Richard Nixon amidst the unfolding Watergate scandal, said that the crimes of the Bush/Cheney adminstration are worse than those of Nixon's, and that seeking their impeachment is "the rightful course for an American patriot."  (AP)

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(CBS)  The former Democratic nominee for president who ran against a president later driven from office under threat of impeachment, today said that impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney is "the rightful course for an American patriot."

George McGovern, a former South Dakota Senator who ran on the Democratic ticket in 1972 as an anti-war advocate, wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post that, while he steered clear of calling for the impeachment of Richard Nixon in the '70s - fearing it would appear as "an expression of personal vengeance" against his opponent who won re-election in a landslide - McGovern said after seven years of the current administration, he has "belatedly and painfully concluded that the only honorable course for me is to urge the impeachment" of the president and the vice president.

McGovern also called the case for impeaching Mr. Bush and Cheney "far stronger" than what was the case against President Nixon and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew after the 1972 election.

McGovern admits that while there is little bipartisan support for instituting impeachment hearings (House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat, has announced that impeachment is "off the table"), he said, "Bush and Cheney are clearly guilty of numerous impeachable offenses.

"They have repeatedly violated the Constitution. They have transgressed national and international law. They have lied to the American people time after time. Their conduct and their barbaric policies have reduced our beloved country to a historic low in the eyes of people around the world. These are truly 'high crimes and misdemeanors,' to use the constitutional standard."

McGovern says that American democracy has been "derailed" by the administration's commitment to "a murderous, illegal, nonsensical war against Iraq … done without the declaration of war from Congress that the Constitution clearly requires, in defiance of the U.N. Charter and in violation of international law. This reckless disregard for life and property, as well as constitutional law, has been accompanied by the abuse of prisoners, including systematic torture, in direct violation of the Geneva Conventions of 1949."

"How could a once-admired, great nation fall into such a quagmire of killing, immorality and lawlessness?" he writes.

McGovern writes that while Mr. Bush and Cheney made counterterrorism the battle cry of their administration, "their policies (especially the war in Iraq) have increased the terrorist threat and reduced the security of the United States.

"Today, after five years of clumsy, mistaken policies and U.S. military occupation, Iraq has become a breeding ground of terrorism and bloody civil strife."

McGovern said any impeachment proceedings should also look at the "collapse of presidential leadership" in the face of Hurricane Katrina, "perhaps the worst natural disaster in U.S. history."

In November Rep. Dennis Kucinich introduced a resolution, H.R. 333, calling for impeachment proceedings against Vice President Dick Cheney, which - in part because of a belief such proceedings would embarrass the Democratic leadership - was passed with overwhelming Republican support. House leaders submitted the resolution to the Judiciary Committee, where it has sat ever since. Kucinich later added that he would demand impeachment hearings against the president as well.

But while Committee Chair John Conyers, D-Mich., has advocated impeachment in the past, since the Democrats regained a majority in the House he has been more sanguine about the issue. He has suggested that such hearings could turn villains - "people who should be documented in history as making many profound errors and violating the Constitution" - into victims.

House Speaker Pelosi has likewise dismissed calls for impeachment, suggesting that hearings would detract Congress from other business, or might create a backlash among voters in November 2008, thereby threatening the Democrats' current hold on the majority.

That argument doesn’t hold sway with Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Fla., who with two other House members - Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., and Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis., who also sit on the Judiciary Committee - recently called for an immediate start to hearings.

In an op-ed they penned, published last month in the Philadelphia Inquirer, the three wrote that, unlike the Republicans' investigation into President Bill Clinton's personal relations, "the Democratic Congress can show that it takes its constitutional authority seriously and hold a sober investigation, which will stand in stark contrast to the kangaroo court convened by Republicans for Clinton."

One aspect of holding impeachment hearings that has attracted attention is that, unlike other congressional hearings where the administration has claimed executive privilege to resist releasing documents or subpoenaed testimony, there is no protection of executive privilege allowed under an impeachment investigation.

Therefore, any documents and testimony relating to the destruction of videotapes depicting torture, to the firings of U.S. attorneys, to the outing of a CIA operative, to secret energy meetings involving Cheney and oil industry figures, to surveillance of Americans without court-order warrants or any other controversy which the White House has refused to produce for Congress, must be given in evidence.

"Impeachment is unlikely, of course," McGovern wrote. "But we must still urge Congress to act. Impeachment, quite simply, is the procedure written into the Constitution to deal with presidents who violate the Constitution and the laws of the land. It is also a way to signal to the American people and the world that some of us feel strongly enough about the present drift of our country to support the impeachment of the false prophets who have led us astray.

"I believe we have a chance to heal the wounds the nation has suffered in the opening decade of the 21st century. This recovery may take a generation and will depend on the election of a series of rational presidents and Congresses. At age 85, I won't be around to witness the completion of the difficult rebuilding of our sorely damaged country, but I'd like to hold on long enough to see the healing begin."

By David Morgan
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by godseyesore-2009 January 6, 2008 12:44 PM PST
Criminal activity, ignoring constitution, lying, killing, suppression of information, etc. is not of interest to republicans as long as they get their special perks & desserts. So, of course, they will NEVER impeach their nazi duo (after all, THEY put them in office).
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by candide777 January 6, 2008 12:49 PM PST
Impeachable crimes by Bush and Cheney are nothing new. The real story here is that McGovern is still alive?
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by shanev137 January 6, 2008 12:50 PM PST
America had it''s chance but it''s too late now. People in this country took great pleasure in getting screwed over by Bush and Cheney.
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by bobmarisol January 6, 2008 12:52 PM PST
godseyesore -- dont make claims you cant back up. You say that Bush ''ignored'' the constitution -- exactly what portion of the Constitution are you referring to? The Constitution plainly states that the President is the Commander in Chief -- so choosing to go to war is well within his Constitutional bounds. If you hate the war so much, tell your Democratic friends to stop the funding. That is what they have the power to do under the Constitution -- the Constitution gives Congress the power to fund (or not fund) the military -- so instead of making uneducated statements about the Constitution and accusing Bush of violating it when you dont really know what it says, instead you should tell your Democratic Congress to use their Constitutional powers to cut off funding.
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by gkc99 January 6, 2008 12:56 PM PST
"You say that Bush ''''ignored'''' the constitution -- exactly what portion of the Constitution are you referring to? "--Posted by bobmarisol


Well DUHHH! How about the 4th amendment, part of what is known as the "Bill of Rights" that you may never of heard of before!
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by jasarack January 6, 2008 12:57 PM PST
Former Senator McGovern is certainly right in his call for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney. The high crimes and misdemeanors committed by this administration are too numerous to mention. It will likely take a generation to restore the credibility of American constitutional principles and our standing in the world.
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by bobmarisol January 6, 2008 12:58 PM PST
GKC -- the 4th Amendment guarantees that citizens are safe from unreasonable searches and seizures -- so what the heck are you talking about? It has nothing to do with the war or anything Bush has done.
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by January 6, 2008 12:59 PM PST
McGovern''s analysis of this rogue administration is perfectly put. And I, too, would like Bush/Cheney impeached but, at the same time, I understand the Democrats for not introducing it. It would be counterproductive...mainly because there is so little time left.
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by gkc99 January 6, 2008 1:01 PM PST
"It has nothing to do with the war or anything Bush has done"--Posted by bobmarisol


So what do you think happened when the Darth Bushit regime spurned even the minor oversight of the FISA courts and ordered widespread reading of communications within the US and originating in the US with the collaboration of ATT, Verizon, etc.?

There is no exception to the warrant requirement of the 4th amendment that allows even the Chimp-in-Chief to do that!

A clear Constitutional violation by the Darth Bushits. Worthy of impeachment. Too bad Pelosi is such a wimp.

There is one advantage to not impeaching however--the Darth Bushit regime will twist slowly, slowly in the wind as the American people come to understand what a disaster his corrupt and incompetent rule has been. There won''t be any excuses because the Darth Bushits have been totally in charge since 2000.

Impeach the Cox-sacker!
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by duffyn January 6, 2008 1:02 PM PST
I would LOVE to see bush and cheney impeached and off to jail where they so richly deserve to be!!!! Let''s see Clinton lied about ***, bush lied to get us to war - which is the greater sin? republicans have a way of torpedoing great people with bs, attack ads, handing out fake purple hearts (how low is that) and I am sick to death of this! I watched Clinton speak of a plan on how to create jobs and reduce c02 emmissions. He had COMMAND of the subject. He is just so awesomely more INTELLIGENT than bush, yet, if you didn''t actually watch and listen to Clinton, you wouldn''t know it. Why? Because the repub &*&^% works! It needs to not work and this will happen when voters recognize it for what it is and turn off to it!
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by stephanienym January 6, 2008 1:09 PM PST
This is America''s bad karma for voting these two criminals into office. Live with it!
I didn''t vote for them so I sleep at night! I guess we can thank all you idiots who did!
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by bobmarisol January 6, 2008 1:10 PM PST
So what do you think happened when the Darth Bushit regime spurned even the minor oversight of the FISA courts and ordered widespread reading of communications within the US and originating in the US with the collaboration of ATT, Verizon, etc.?

Posted by gkc99 at 01:01 PM : Jan 06, 2008


I''ll tell you what happened when Bush authorized investigators to listen to Al Queda''s phone calls -- hundreds of terror plots were foiled, saving countless American lives (including yours, perhaps). Its not like Bush told the FBI to listen to average law-abiding American citizens phone calls -- if you are not a terrorist and you have no connections to terrorists, then nobody wants to listen to your phone calls (nobody cares what you are saying anyway). But if you are a member of Al Queda, then why shouldnt we listen to your calls? Why shouldnt we use every tool possible to foil the evil plots of terrorists? Your Democratic friends in Congress keep trying to weaken the Patriot Act, which is really just weakening our ability to fight to war on terror. Of course, if we ever get attacked on our soil again, you liberals will be the first to say that Bush should have done something to prevent it. In reality, you only have your liberal Democrat friends to thank, since it is them who are trying to weaken our ability to spy on Al Queda.
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by noesis3 January 6, 2008 1:13 PM PST
The last I read, the 4th Amendment protects us against UNREASONABLE searches. If a terrorist overseas is calling one of his liberal friends here in the states, I don''t think that it is unreasonable to think the government isn''t listening in.

Why don''t liberals make such a big stink about when they go to the airport and their 4th Amendment rights are violated when they are searched without a warrant?
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by dakotaclark January 6, 2008 1:16 PM PST
Hmmm...

If you impeach them, what would you have?

George Bush and Shotgun Richard Cheney, (the spelling format of this program apparently does not like quotation marks, or the word D-I-C-K), are going down in the history books as the worst administration EVER.

Trying to impeach them would only add to the disarray.

However, the law is the law, but it looks like that dynamic duo is waaay above the law.

Just take a moment and consider how those two are treating our active military men and women, and, our veterans. Very poorly, I might add, and it is very disgraceful.

If these two were LOCAL elected officials, there would have been a recall election, and they would no longer be in office.

However, at the national level, we cannot do that. Instead, recall is the purview of the U.S. congress. I get the distinct impression that no matter how much pressure the public puts on congress to do anything nowadays, even impeachment, it will not happen.

AND, that my friends, is a very sad legacy for the people of this country, the founding of which was on the basic tenet of freedom%u2026


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by skyk-2009 January 6, 2008 1:20 PM PST
you liberals will be the first to say that Bush should have done something to prevent it. In reality, you only have your liberal Democrat friends to thank, since it is them who are trying to weaken our ability to spy on Al Queda.


Posted by bobmarisol at 01:10 PM : Jan 06, 2008
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You know all this to be true??? How? Because the biggest LIAR in US History has TOLD you so?? The Incompetent President who has us in this condition?? Look, YOU freaks have got to wise up here... It doesn''t take a SMART person to see we''re in ONE big time mess right now. WE the PEOPLE haven''t a clue as to what has ACTUALLY happened here because EVERYTHING is secret. Maybe that''s okay with you but me? I won''t to KNOW the truth. I want to KNOW why my President hired VERY low qualified people for our Justice Department from a University started by one of this nations biggest BIGOTS. You do remember him saying it was I who caused 9/11 don''t you. I could go on but man this has been the most corrupt Administration I have ever seen and I lived through the Nixon mess. I have also heard this the "liberals" did it until I''m SICK of it. I have heard over 90 of the people who post on here called "liberal" and blamed for mistake after mistake after mistake. Now either be an American or find someplace else to worship someone.
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by skyk-2009 January 6, 2008 1:24 PM PST
Why don''''t liberals make such a big stink about when they go to the airport and their 4th Amendment rights are violated when they are searched without a warrant?



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Posted by Noesis3 at 01:13 PM : Jan 06, 2008
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I''m no "Liberal" and I''m no "Conservative"!! I''m AN AMERICAN and I''m Damned well fed up with hearing "Excutive Privilege"! As a Combat Vet and someone who has Worked hard to raise a Family I do NOT like what has been going on here and It''s time you addressed these things like an AMERICAN. EVERYONE I know is very concerned with where this nation is and where it''s headed but a few still want to come on here like school kids! Time for it to stop!!
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by hawksprings January 6, 2008 1:25 PM PST

The last thing we need to be doing is taking advice from a failed, tired old worn out loser of a liberal like McGovern.

BTW, After he retired from the Senate, he bought a hotel that he ran into the ground and failed at.
Then in his autobiography as he reflected on that experience, he said that if he had been a business owner BEFORE being a Senator, he would have voted TOTALLY DIFFERENT than how he had voted.

He''s a typical Liberal who never had a REAL job in his life, then tried to tell the rest of us how to run ours.

Much like Bill and Hillary who''ve never had REAL jobs in their lives either. Just spent it suckingg at the federal ****, and in Bill''s case, other titss as well.
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by samsel3 January 6, 2008 1:28 PM PST
All major corporate news networks are owned by members and associates of the NPC (National Policy Council) and the PNAC (Project for a New American Century) both are private organizations Who''s objectives include total global business control without government interference. Their employees were instructed not to draw any links between BIG OIL and the middleast wars. NBC news anchor got the message when he was sent U.S.Army military grade Anthrax. After the Iraq invasion the administration declared oil & energy policy off limits, cloaking it under the veil of National Security so that even the Congress can''t make public comment. They are not able to show any connection or they could be sanctioned under House Rules.
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by samsel3 January 6, 2008 1:29 PM PST
Reuters UK December 30, 2007 Reports: "Bin Laden says U.S. seeks to exploit Iraqi Oil". OBL states: "America seeks, alongside it''s agents in the region, to create an allied government...that would accept in advance the presence of major U.S. bases in Iraq and give the Americans all they wish of Iraqi Oil.
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by bobmarisol January 6, 2008 1:30 PM PST
You know all this to be true??? How? Because the biggest LIAR in US History has TOLD you so?? The Incompetent President who has us in this condition?? It doesn''''t take a SMART person to see we''''re in ONE big time mess right now. WE the PEOPLE haven''''t a clue as to what has ACTUALLY happened here because EVERYTHING is secret. I want to KNOW why my President hired qualified people for our Justice Department from a University. I have also heard this the "liberals" did it until I''''m SICK of it. I have heard over 90 of the people who post on here called "liberal" and blamed for mistake after mistake after mistake. Now either be an American or find someplace else to worship someone.
Posted by skyk at 01:20 PM : Jan 06, 2008


What the heck are you rambling about? And why do you feel the need to use so many capital letters? Instead of using capital letters in every other word, if you want to be heard and to win arguments, you first need to read and become educated.

You claim Bush has kept ''everything secret'' -- if that were true, then how would you know it?? What we do know is that Hillary is running on what she claims to be so much ''experience'' -- however she refuses to open Bill''s Presidential library to reveal exactly what she ever did as First Lady that gave her so much experience. Can you name even one thing she has ever accomplished to better our country? even one thing?
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by samsel3 January 6, 2008 1:30 PM PST
On September 14,2002 Rep. James McDermott at a Capitol Hill Briefing said that politics and oil, not fear that Iraq will use WMD are driving factors behind the presidents call for regime change. McDermott said there was an organized effort to squelch such discussions. "The political operatives in the white house have been very careful to spin it away from oil. Anytime anybody sees a connection they spin it the other way".
Who''s in charge of the National Media outlets? Why does the administration spin the news and prevent journalists from covering the real agenda? The administration cloaks the truth under the veil of national security. On September 14,2002 Rep. James McDermott said: "Political operatives in the white house have been very careful to spin it away from oil. Anytime anyone sees a connection they spin it the other way".
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by samsel3 January 6, 2008 1:31 PM PST
Iraq''s oil infrastructure was rebuilt when Cheney controlled Haliburton. Halliburton/Iraq deal was done through the French because it was illegal for US companies to deal with Iraq, except for the oil for food program which US oil companies participated in. Saddam was charging US interests more for oil then other countries and cutting off supplies at times so they took him out.
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by samsel3 January 6, 2008 1:32 PM PST
Nothing has changed on Iran. The administrations interest in Iran & nukes is a smoke screen for their real agenda. Their true interests are Cheney''s energy policy.Condi Rice is a former board member of Chevron Oil and mouthpiece for the administrations energy policy. Part of that policy is the The Caspian Sea pipeline which will go through Turkmenistan, Afghanistan,Pakistan, to the gulf of Oman or on to India & Nepal.It will be cheaper to construct if they can go through Iran, but regime change is necessary first. The Caspian sea area holds one third of the world''s oil and south asian oil markets are their target market. This pipeline was also the reason for the Afghanistan invasion. Cheney''''s energy policy is the root of all these middle east wars, a federal court judge sealed all documents associated with it for the administration, and the national media are not allowed to discuss or comment on it. More troops are needed in Afghanistan to protect the contractors building the pipeline. Iran stands in the way of total control of global oil now with sales of oil to China''s Sinopec Oil,deal signed Dec.10,2007. Months ago China said there would be dire consequences if the US interfered with there direct oil contracts with Iran. Both parties in the Congress should be very concerned with China''s growing war machine and need for oil. They are the real threat & the administration doesn''t care they are in control!!! All that matters to them is BIG OIL and their corporate stock portfolios
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by bobmarisol January 6, 2008 1:34 PM PST
Reuters UK December 30, 2007 Reports: "Bin Laden says U.S. seeks to exploit Iraqi Oil". OBL states: "America seeks, alongside it''''s agents in the region, to create an allied government...that would accept in advance the presence of major U.S. bases in Iraq and give the Americans all they wish of Iraqi Oil.
Posted by samsel3 at 01:29 PM : Jan 06, 2008


So Bin Laden is your source? The most evil man alive on the planet today, the man who murdered 3,000 American lives, the man who still plots and seeks to kill Americans (including you) is your source for the truth? You believe what he says but you dont believe your own President? You are real intelligent, arent you?
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by samsel3 January 6, 2008 1:38 PM PST
The administration has sealed all energy policy documents to prevent people from knowing the truth. Even the Bin Ladden videos have not been allowed viewing when they come out. You have to go around the world to read them. Freedom of the press was destroyed by this administration.
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by fredgrad2000 January 6, 2008 1:39 PM PST
Two people that NO ONE should care what they have to say; George McGovern and Jimmy Carter...enough said.
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by samsel3 January 6, 2008 1:42 PM PST
Bush went to Yale as the first receipient of the Barbara Bush scholarship fund. When he was at Exeter Phillips Academy he was less than a stellar student and yes his in the oval office because of the members of the NPC & PNAC. They call the shots wake up and smell the coffee!
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by samsel3 January 6, 2008 1:46 PM PST
Posted by bobmarisol at 01:34 PM : Jan 06, 2008 To Bob ; The answer to your question: No Rueters is the source and not in the USA Foreign reuters source unfiltered unbiased.
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by bobmarisol January 6, 2008 1:48 PM PST
Sam -- you quoted Bin Laden -- so Bin Laden is your source. That fact that you got his quote from Reuters is irrelevant -- either you believe his quote or you dont. If you dont believe his quote, then why did you cite it?
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by bluestardad January 6, 2008 2:11 PM PST
AMERICA YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE...IT IS IN YOUR CONSTITUTION TO REMOVE THOSE IN POWER IF THEY DONT REPRESENT YOU!

INSTEAD OF TAKING TO THE STREETS AND DRAGGING THEM FROM OFFICE FOR THEIR CRIMES YOU CHOOSE TO LET THEM STAY AND CAUSE MORE AMERICAN DEATHS AND TREASURY THEFT!

YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE...

DO SOMETHING OR SHUT UP!
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by david1737 January 6, 2008 2:13 PM PST
All major corporate news networks are owned by members and associates of the NPC (National Policy Council) and the PNAC (Project for a New American Century) both are private organizations Who''''s objectives include total global business control without government interference. Their employees were instructed not to draw any links between BIG OIL and the middleast wars. NBC news anchor got the message when he was sent U.S.Army military grade Anthrax. After the Iraq invasion the administration declared oil & energy policy off limits, cloaking it under the veil of National Security so that even the Congress can''''t make public comment. They are not able to show any connection or they could be sanctioned under House Rules.

Posted by samsel3 at 01:28 PM : Jan 06, 2008
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Interesting post. I''ve been saying for years that the anthrax threat was, in fact a terrorist attack on U.S. soil, which occured after 9-11, and yet the media continues to say that brave Bush has prevented any terror attacks (on U.S. soil) since 9-11.

Remember, they hit CBS News,NBC News, ABC News,New York Post, and Democratic Senators, Tom Daschle of South Dakota and Patrick Leahy of Vermont.

Things that make you Hmmmmm!
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by david1737 January 6, 2008 2:25 PM PST
Two people that NO ONE should care what they have to say; George McGovern and Jimmy Carter...enough said.

Posted by fredgrad2000


I just want to put things into perspective.

McGovern/Carter=Former Senator/President

fredgrad2000=microscopic amoeba.
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by red164 January 6, 2008 2:26 PM PST
Interesting post. I''''ve been saying for years that the anthrax threat was, in fact a terrorist attack on U.S. soil, which occured after 9-11, and yet the media continues to say that brave Bush has prevented any terror attacks (on U.S. soil) since 9-11.

Remember, they hit CBS News,NBC News, ABC News,New York Post, and Democratic Senators, Tom Daschle of South Dakota and Patrick Leahy of Vermont.

Things that make you Hmmmmm!



Posted by david1737 at 02:13 PM : Jan 06, 2008


Good point
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by red164 January 6, 2008 2:27 PM PST
Friday, January 4 2008 - Get Involved

Impeach Cheney Movement Gathers Momentum %u2013 Opportunity for 9/11 Issues to Come Forward

http://911truth.org/
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by samsel3 January 6, 2008 2:27 PM PST
either you believe his quote or you dont. If you dont believe his quote, then why did you cite this?

Posted by bobmarisol at 01:48 PM : Jan 06, 2008
Answer quote not available in the USA. This form of media censorship has to stop.
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by red164 January 6, 2008 2:28 PM PST
YouTube - KUCINICH: Takes House Floor, Moves for Cheney ImpeachmentDENNIS KUCINICH DEMANDS IMPEACHMENT NOW! DURING DEBATE. 01:47 From: CSPANJUNKIEdotORG ... Dennis Kucinich:Standing Ovation for Cheney Impeachment Move ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYbgouqlMw - 143k - Cached - Similar pages


CNN) %u2014 Perry Kucinich, brother of Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, was found dead Wednesday morning at his eastside Cleveland ...
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/19/kucinichs-brother-found-dead/ - 36k - Cached - Similar pages
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by xlib January 6, 2008 2:32 PM PST
No coverage of the dems poster boy in al queda, adam gadhan. Reading the transcript of his latest spewing I do believe his words could have come from pelosi, kerry, durbin, reid or any number of dems. Now, if you want to talk about offenses, those guys take the prize.
It''s funny how a dem or lefty can say and do just about anything and it''s ok.
McGovern wasn''t relevent 40 years ago and he isn''t now. Sad to say, I voted for him, then I grew up.
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by red164 January 6, 2008 2:32 PM PST
12/10/2007

The Justice Department and the Central Intelligence Agency have launched a joint probe into the CIA''s destruction of at least two videotapes documenting

12/19/2007

Cheney office evidence up in smoke?

The blaze started at about 9:30 a.m. near the ceremonial office of Vice President *** Cheney on the second floor of the building. The vice president was across the street in his office in the West Wing of the White House at the time.

The Secret Service is disputing reports that they kept firefighters from entering the building,
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by red164 January 6, 2008 2:35 PM PST
Bin Laden DEAD says Butto (video) | ClipmarksHere is the actual interview forward to 5:33 mins. for mentioned part about Bin Laden being dead!!
clipmarks.com/clipmark/F3308293-3966-4639-AB91-844E28C451E1/ - 27k - Cached - Similar pages


Is Bin Laden already dead? Before she was murdered Benazir Butto said in an interview back on 11/02/2007 that Bin Laden was dead. Why didn''t the US media cover this story? Are the American people being lied to again by the WMD Administration?
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by samsel3 January 6, 2008 2:36 PM PST
Tne NPC (National Policy Council) is having another meeting in the southwest in the next few days.I guess they are really concerned about loosing the status quo and impending changes that could damage their global agenda''s. Will this be another Bimingham plan? or perhaps Texas gangland to protect their revenue sources?
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by red164 January 6, 2008 2:43 PM PST
Chapter 14. Somebody knew enough to place put options on AA and UAL stock

The put options on UAL between 9-6 and 9-10 were 90 times greater than normal and 285 times the average on the Thursday before 9-11. The put options on AA were 60 times greater than normal on 9-10. The Kean Commission official report says only that the put options were not placed by terrorists. So who did place them? $2.5 million remains unclaimed. The Stock Exchanges will not investigate, at least publicly. The Bush Administration has not released its investigation, if any there was.






911 Proof(2) Someone like Cheney -- who on 9/11 apparently had full control over all defense, war game and counter-terrorism powers -- rigging and gaming the system? ...
www.911proof.com/9.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages



Senate Leader Tom Daschle said "I can tell you on January 24th, first, and on January 28th second, and on other dates following, that request [by Cheney and Bush not to conduct any Sept. 11 inquiry] was made." Daschle: Bush, Cheney Urged No Sept. 11 Inquiry, Reuters News Service: 5/26/02. Strangely this story is no longer available on the original site, but echoes remain on the web.


Cheney/Bush 9/11 testimony to 9/11 commission
However, it would be unsworn testimony, not under oath, behind closed doors, and no transcript would be permitted. Now, that is not what Congress is looking ...
thinkprogress.org/2007/03/20/white-house-block-rove-testimony/ - 197k - Cached - Similar pages
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by red164 January 6, 2008 2:45 PM PST
As soon as he took office in 2001, Cheney convened a meeting of an energy task force called the US National Energy Policy Development Group. To this day we do not know of the identity of the task force participants. In July 2003, a conservative group Judicial Watch sued under the Freedom of Information Act and obtained 7 pages of the task force report. From that we know that the task force was concerned about the oil reserves of Iran, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia. Richard Cheney successfully fought all the way to the United States Supreme Court to keep the task force report and the names of the participants secret. Cheney took Supreme Court Justice Scalia on a duck hunting trip just before the case was argued before the Supreme Court. Despite complaints, Scalia refused to recuse himself and voted with a slim majority to keep the task force report secret.

Why was it so critically important to Cheney that this report be kept secret?
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by king77shaw January 6, 2008 2:46 PM PST
December 4, 2007

Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy''s most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the Mossad and CIA and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/december2007/120407_common_knowledge.htm
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by king77shaw January 6, 2008 2:47 PM PST
here%u2019s an independent photographer who shot close up footage of the Pentagon on 9/11 - watch it and hear what he has to say - then ask yourself %u201Cwhere%u2019s the 757?%u201D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYWIT9TSJPE

more damning Pentagon evidence here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAwtmun_aj8&feature=related

and here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=869bO4jI1po&feature=related

it''''s rare European news footage of the Pentagon close-up on 9/11 ... and you realize that a) the wingspan of a 757 would not fit in that hole - there is no damage to the sides .. and b) there is NO PLANE ... where is the 757 ? no luggage, no skid marks, no bodies, no tail section, no wings ? ... what hit the Pentagon ? ... that''''s the question that both parties are afraid to answer --
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by red164 January 6, 2008 2:51 PM PST
IV EVIDENCE OF GUILT FROM EVENTS, ACTS AND CONDUCT AFTER 9-11

The most overwhelming evidence of guilt is the action of our elected agent and representative President George W. Bush in classifying every fact as secret, and by doing all that he could to impede and to control the official investigation. Vice President Cheney phoned Senator Daschle in January 2002 urging him not to make any investigation of 9-11. Bush keeps secret evidence that could readily prove that the official story is correct without any breach of national security. For example there were TV monitors at a gas station and on top of a nearby hotel that would show what actually hit the Pentagon. The FBI seized these video tapes within minutes after the attack and they have never been released to anyone. The black boxes of the 3 aircraft involved in the attack have never been released.

Immediately after 9-11, the FAA controllers involved made a tape recording of their experiences and frustrations as the attack was being carried out. A top FAA official destroyed the tape. He did not erase the tape (that can be re-created with modern technology). He cut it up in tiny pieces and then destroyed the pieces.

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by p-syrus January 6, 2008 2:51 PM PST
I supported Nixon in ''72 and I fully support McGovern in 2008.

Impeach Bush & Cheney.
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by samsel3 January 6, 2008 2:54 PM PST

Nothing has changed on Iran. The administration interest in Iran & nukes is a smoke screen for their real agenda. Their true interests are Cheney''s energy policy.Condi Rice is a former board member of Chevron Oil and mouthpiece for the administrations energy policy. Part of that policy is the The Caspian Sea pipeline which will go through Turkmenistan, Afghanistan,Pakistan, to the gulf of Oman or on to India & Nepal.It will be cheaper to construct if they can go through Iran, but regime change is necessary first. The Caspian sea area holds one third of the world''s oil and south asian oil markets are their target market. This pipeline was also the reason for the Afghanistan invasion. Cheney''s energy policy is the root of all these middle east wars, a federal court judge sealed all documents associated with it for the administration, and the national media are not allowed to discuss or comment on it. More troops are needed in Afghanistan to protect the contractors building the pipeline. Iran stands in the way of total control of global oil now with sales of oil to China''s Sinopec Oil,deal signed Dec.10,2007. Months ago China said there would be dire consequences if the US interfered with there direct oil contracts with Iran. Both parties in the Congress should be very concerned with China''s growing war machine and need for oil. They are the real threat & the administration doesn''''t care they are in control!!! All that matters to them is BIG OIL and their corporate stock portfolios.
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by rohink-2009 January 6, 2008 2:56 PM PST
Rant and chant all you want (sounds like a broken record). It''s not going to happen. Find something else to get obsessed about. Hint, if Bush and Chenney were really guilty of all the "crimes" you keep spouting, the process would already be in place. Don''t we have a Democratic controlled Congress and Senate? The keep going after Bush and his policies, and they keep losing. Time to turn the page.
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by prairiefox1 January 6, 2008 2:56 PM PST
MCGOVERN IS THE ONLY ONE WITH ENOUGH GUTS TO SAY THIS!
BUT THE ONLY WAY IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS CAN START IS FIRST GET RID OF CONGRESS! THEY ARE A LARGE PART OF THE CORRUPTION AND REFUSE TO ACT! AND REMEMBER THIS WHEN YOU SEE A PART OF THAT CORRUPTION CAMPAIGNING FOR PRESIDENT!
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by frb01 January 6, 2008 2:58 PM PST
If it was a CIA plot then why hasn''t there been a complete government takeover in the past seven years. Some of these posts come from fantasy land.
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