WASHINGTON, Jan. 4, 2008

Court To Rule On Executing Child Rapists

Supreme Court Will Review La. Law Allowing Death Sentence For Child Rapists

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(AP)  The Supreme Court agreed Friday to decide whether a state can execute someone convicted of raping a child, one of the few remaining crimes that does not require the death of the victim to result in capital punishment.

Patrick Kennedy, 43, was sentenced to death for the rape of his 8-year-old stepdaughter in Louisiana. He is the only person on death row in the United States for a rape that was not also accompanied by a killing.

The Supreme Court banned executions for rape in 1977 in a case in which the victim was an adult woman.

Kennedy's lawyers say the death penalty for child rape violates the Eighth Amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishment.

The justices will hear arguments in the case in April.

The last executions for rape or any other crime that did not also include the victims' death were in 1964.

Forty-five states already ban the death penalty for any kind of rape and among the other five states that in theory allow it for child rapists. Kennedy's case is the only time a state has sought to execute someone. Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas allow executions in such cases.

The Louisiana Supreme Court upheld the sentence. "Our state legislature and this court have determined this category of aggravated rapist to be among those deserving of the death penalty, and short of first-degree murder, we can think of no other non-homicide crime more deserving," Justice Jeffrey Victory wrote.

Chief Justice Pascal Calogero dissented, saying that with the possible exception of espionage or treason, "the Eighth Amendment precludes capital punishment for any offense that does not involve the death of the victim."

The child rape case is the second capital punishment case from Louisiana this term at the Supreme Court. The justices already are considering whether a prosecutor improperly excluded blacks from a jury and then inflamed the all-white panel with references to the O.J. Simpson case.

In addition, the court is weighing whether the way Kentucky executes prisoners by lethal injection - procedures similar to those used in three dozen states - violates the Constitution.

Kennedy was convicted in 2003 of raping his stepdaughter at their home in suburban New Orleans. The girl initially told police she was sorting Girl Scout cookies in the garage when she was assaulted by two boys.

Police arrested Kennedy a couple of weeks after the March 1998 rape, but more than 20 months passed before the girl identified him as her attacker.

His defense attorney at the time argued that blood testing was inconclusive and that the victim was pressured to change her story.

Kennedy's Supreme Court lawyers also called pointed out that Kennedy is black and that nearly 90 percent of people executed for rape in the United States were black. "This court should pause before condoning a practice so heavily tinged with the scourge of racism," Stanford University law professor Jeffrey Fisher, Kennedy's lead lawyer, said.

The state said the court should turn down the case because Louisiana law is narrowly tailored to apply only to people convicted of raping children younger than 12.

The case is Kennedy v. Louisiana, 07-343.



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by underdogus January 4, 2008 3:33 PM PST
haaa bring back the GUILLOTINE!! PLEASE....
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by jackie0428 January 4, 2008 3:35 PM PST
The only problem with this is that execution, especially execution by lethal injection, is way too good and humane for any person who has raped a child. Someone like this is a more suitable candidate for anthills, draw & quartering, or burning at the stake.
I don''t see any deterrent capability in getting a nice peaceful lethal injection. Most child rapists will not fear a punishment such as this.
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by liberalme January 4, 2008 3:38 PM PST
Unless you are a child who has been raped, no one knows the trauma and life long psychological distress a child of rape suffers.

No matter how much counseling they get--their lives will never be "normal".

The insult suffered from rape in childern interferes with their self esteem, confidence and trust.
Years of counseling will merely "get them past it" but a lifetime of "flashbacks" and recall will forever be with them.

Death is too good a punishment for these people for they are leaving behind a damaged child.
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by jetlizhan January 4, 2008 3:49 PM PST
i''m all for this!!! a child rapist is trash and trash needs to be thrown away.
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by cozzicon January 4, 2008 3:59 PM PST
"i''''m all for this!!! a child rapist is trash and trash needs to be thrown away." --Posted by jetlizhan

I''m not for this.

I wouldn''t want to stand before God and explain about when the first innocent was executed.

Same for murder cases. If you folks who bang the drum for capital punishment wan''t to risk your soul- go ahead.... But I''ll not participate.
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by gmond January 4, 2008 4:00 PM PST
The death penalty is not a deterrent to any crime, and trying to execute people who are considered "sick" will backfire, causing even more protests and instant martyrdom. We don''t want killers and sexual predators championed for a cause, we want them either rehabilitated or removed from society.
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by sgtrds January 4, 2008 4:01 PM PST
I vote yes, but only if the evidence is overwhelming and undeniable. In other words only in the most obvious and extreme cases. Of course that same standard should be applied to murder cases too. Death only in the most extreme and obvious cases.
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by usakousagi January 4, 2008 4:07 PM PST
The only issue I have with this is a simple question. First I''d like to say I have no mercy with rapists of any kind especially not the ones that betray a child''s trust and rip away their innocence.

Now my question is some people are filed as "child rapists" for sleeping with a 16 or 17 year old that KNEW what they were doing and it was perfectly consentual regardless of whether we think it''s wrong or right. Will they be included in this?
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by libsluvsuvs January 4, 2008 4:14 PM PST
too extreme...i would suggest CASTRATION and jailtime.
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by gunownerdan January 4, 2008 4:18 PM PST
I say put child rapists in jail in the general population and let the prisoners take care of them.
Castration could also be an effective punishment.
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by Krazcarl January 4, 2008 4:21 PM PST
I''ll shoot them for free...
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by fstop100 January 4, 2008 4:21 PM PST
Thats a no brainer, but I here if you put them in the general prison population and the other inmates find out what they did they will wish they were dead.
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by libsluvsuvs January 4, 2008 4:21 PM PST
We tend to push issues that ''would not happen'' which derail the main problem. just like crimes committed with a gun..GUN CONTROL will not solve it..it will slow it down but not ''cure it''..
here we are dealing with human lust..take the lust away..CASTRATE THE FU CKER AT THE FIRST OFFENSE hence taking the lust away from the equation..
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by libsluvsuvs January 4, 2008 4:23 PM PST
im talking about the whole kit and kaboodle..
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by ashleigh13-2009 January 4, 2008 4:25 PM PST
We Should allow the death penalty for rapist! quicker you kill them quicker the sick freaks will burn in hell!! raping someone Can be worse than Murder! The innocent child is left branded and Scarred for the rest of their life!
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by libsluvsuvs January 4, 2008 4:37 PM PST
Posted by ashleigh13 at 04:25 PM : Jan 04, 2008
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good luck with that idea..ready to fight an army of angry bleeding heart liberals??
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by michellem99-2009 January 4, 2008 4:39 PM PST
I know too well what sexual zbuse does to a minor who never ever asked for it. I was a child that bear this pain and it is hell. Yer life is changed and yer surely ask yerself *what did I do wrong -nothing*. It is not yer clothes. It is over sexxed and controling adults who think nothing of hurting a kid. They can''t be learnt so they can live with us. Lock them up for good. They got no budiness hurtimg a child/teen/helpness person.
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by robertkjjj January 4, 2008 4:44 PM PST
Tatoo the words "CHILD RAPIST", in all upper case size 72 font, on their forehead. Toss them in with the general prison population for LIFE. That should take care of the punishment part pretty well.
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by libsluvsuvs January 4, 2008 4:45 PM PST
Lock them up for good. They got no budiness hurtimg a child/teen/helpness person.


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Posted by MichelleM99 at 04:39 PM : Jan 04, 2008
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that is the problem..executing them unrealistic..locking them up ''for the rest of thier lives'' is unrealistic..there would come a time where the jails are busting at the seams and they very first ones they release are the *** crimes..CASTRATE THEM..its our insurance policy...CASTRATE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Krazcarl January 4, 2008 4:52 PM PST
Michelle99....RESPECT
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by Krazcarl January 4, 2008 4:55 PM PST
you folks are wrong don''t casterate them cut there thing off then the worry will be over.
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by scottyusa January 4, 2008 4:59 PM PST
"Kennedy''s lawyers say the death penalty for child rape violates the Eighth Amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishment." Raping a child is not cruel and unusual? When did that happen? This guy meted out cruel and unusual punishment so he in turn deserves cruel and unusual punishment.
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by fibonacci_ January 4, 2008 5:04 PM PST
Lets just kill anybody that does anything wrong.
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by skinnyminny2 January 4, 2008 5:07 PM PST
Any monster who does this to a child doesn''t deserve to take another breath on this earth--they take the weakest and most vulnerable among us.
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by susieq_13 January 4, 2008 5:08 PM PST
Hang ''em all! They don''t deserve to live!
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by fitedafuture January 4, 2008 5:13 PM PST
lemee just say if this guy Mr Kennedy is guilty of all this,regardless of the legal loopholes and what not, he needs to hang for this one.pure and simple.hang the monster.
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by gunownerdan January 4, 2008 5:21 PM PST
A friend of mine went to jail for a minor offense and when he was in the waiting room with a few other inmates, the guard came in and told them "I am about to bring in a child molestor." then he walked out. A few minutes later the guard brought in the child molestor, and the other inmates began beating him while my friend held a piece of paper over the security camera. Child rapists and molestors are usually treated with the respect they deserve by other inmates when they are in jail. Put them in general population and hopefully they will learn a lesson. If that fails, castration would certainly be an effective option!
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by dakotaclark January 4, 2008 5:52 PM PST
Hmmm...

Rape is a crime of brutal control over another person; for the pleasure of the offender, and not necessarily for sexual gratification. Reports indicate that castration DOES NOT control the psychological urges involved with rape. Removal of all the male genitalia would not solve that problem.

Folks yelling for castration, you need to become more informed about it.

China has an effective way of dealing with this. Upon conviction, the offender has an almost immediate bullet in the back of the head.

Those executions are always public, attended by large crowds, and serve as a reminder, %u201Cdon%u2019t do the crime if you can%u2019t do the time;%u201D or, in China%u2019s case, if you rape someone, and get convicted, you will very soon.

In the United States, each state has different laws regarding rape. There should be a better method of punishment. Life in prison might be too expensive a burden the taxpayers to pay.

A few days ago, a man in prison for 26+ years, was finally cleared by DNA evidence proving he did not commit the rape. In China, he would have already been dead.

Clearly, there needs to be a better way to deal with this type of crime and punishment.
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by notblue January 4, 2008 5:54 PM PST
Tucker, do really believe the crapp you just spewed???? "rape is not a serious offense, just a simple assault, at most rape should carry a fine and a few days in jail".

Man you are one sick individual, you have lost it man!

One good thing from this post is the rest of us will now consider your words or posts nothing more than the rants and ravings of a lunatic.
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by dan9111 January 4, 2008 5:58 PM PST
Surely a person who rapes a child is no different than one who deliberately slices a piece off with a knife. When the court decides to execute those who circumcise babies in American hospitals, then we will have a quality use of capital punishment. The court may as well send all sexual terrorists to their well-deserved place in he11.
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by lorinkundert January 4, 2008 6:12 PM PST
"Chief Justice Pascal Calogero dissented, saying that with the possible exception of espionage or treason, "the Eighth Amendment precludes capital punishment for any offense that does not involve the death of the victim."

NO, the Constitution does not preclude any such thing, what was allowed when it was written is still in force today.
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by lorinkundert January 4, 2008 6:15 PM PST
"If we are going to resort to vigilante justice, we don''''t need courts or jails. . ."

It''s because of the courts placing themselves above the law that the people have to act in the interest of justice, however the people need to force these activist judges out.
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by libsluvsuvs January 4, 2008 6:21 PM PST
just looking at this in a deeper prespective, our societt is slowly being conditioned to put s ex in a much lower category..to be accepted per se. We are constantly being bombarded with sights, messages and tuants that brings out the animal inside of us. LIKE I SAID...CASTRATE THE OFFENDER..SO NO MATTER WHAT HE/SHE SEES OR HEAR TO TOUCH BECOMES BLAND..take the *** drive away....
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by dowjones20k January 4, 2008 6:29 PM PST
tuckerndfw ...

Unless your joking, it is shocking that you consider an evil, vile & terrorizing act like child rape a petty offense!

Yet, you seem to be offended by jail justice? Maybe you missed the point?

Go rent the movie Short Eyes (Sean Penn) .. Even criminals have a line in the sand ... and most child molesters are dealt with by the inmates .. some are mortally wounded.

There would be no mistakes with DNA & Technology .. It would be nice if we dealt with such evil with public hangings,

most folks just can''t seem to deal with the reality of some other countries, but they are smart enough to eliminate thier society of such trash .. no human deserves to live if they dont respect life.


I concur with you Dakota ....



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by dowjones20k January 4, 2008 6:39 PM PST
tuckerndfw ...

This article is about a CHILD RAPIST !!


To the avergae human, your position is certainly preposterous and untennable ...

Why don''t you let him come live with you and your family?




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by Krazcarl January 4, 2008 6:39 PM PST
KILL them slowly....
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by dowjones20k January 4, 2008 6:44 PM PST
tuckerndfw ....

Your way out there dude.

Do you have a family? Maybe they can get you some help?
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by dowjones20k January 4, 2008 6:50 PM PST
trbl24u ...

When you grow up and get a job maybe you will see why a majority of taxpayers dont like long prison sentences for scum like this .. this costs taxpayers and uses resources that could be better utilized rehabing someone who deserves it ...

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by dowjones20k January 4, 2008 6:53 PM PST
tuckerndfw ...

myopic dude ... and WRONG

Ciao
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by linfinster January 4, 2008 7:06 PM PST
Re Tucker''s comment,
"At most, rape should carry a fine and few days in jail unless it results in serious injuries."

He may possibly be predator himself and perpetrated. Don''t bother to argue with him. He obviously has no understanding of the ramifications of such a heinous act.
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by shooter9x21 January 4, 2008 7:12 PM PST
Virginity and rape.... I don''t see any connection. I know the country''s morals have dropped and virginity is not as "sacred" as before but that''s not a reason to classify rape as simple assault. If you care to check, there are several categories of assault, ranging from simple assault to assault and battery, assault and or battery of a high and aggravated nature and assault with intent to kill. Rape should at least be considered in the same category as assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature. I truly believe that a person that is guilty of rape of a child should recieve the death penalty. It should serve as a warning to pedophiles as a warning that we as the public are not playing. you rape a child and its proven inconclusively that you are guilty, no ifs no ands and no buts, you are going to die.
Perhaps tuckerndfw should spend time in a maximum security prison and experience rape. the mindset may change when he/she realizes that rape is not about ***. it''s about control. If it''s about ***, the rape shouldn''t occur. with the morals as low as tuckerndfw claims they are, then *** should be fairly easy to obtain, such as a prostitute. Children should not be subject to such an act and rape itself should not be punished with a mere slap on the wrist and a stern tongue lashing.....
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by drivelphobe January 4, 2008 7:13 PM PST
tuckerndfw.....

Rape is a vile offense, much different that any other form of assault. It''s bad enough against an adult, but it is worthy of the death penalty when it involves a child.

The act of rape is performed by the weakest and most inferior of men on adult females, but when it involves children, the perpetrators are degenerate pedophiles, creating a horror of such magnitude for a child, that if the child lives, their life is ruined, a form of death. If they are killed, the process has to be one of unspeakable abomination.

Your equating child rape to any other assault, is based on lack of understanding for the precious innocence of childhood and societal disgust for such an offense. These individuals should be shot on the spot.

Let''s hope you don''t change your mind based on some such event happening to a child of importance in your life. The price of the lesson is too high, even for you.
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by ssm9451 January 4, 2008 7:18 PM PST
Maybe not the death penalty, but castration and the removal of his eyes.
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by mrvolleyba11 January 4, 2008 7:46 PM PST
tuckerndfw you say your an ex-cop and in maximum security prison! what was your crime? you sound like a founding member of MANBA you idiot! ...Simple assult my @ss, there is a lot more to it than that and statics show when it is done to children their lives can be ruined, which often leds to their future incarceration within the prison system! I only hope that your on the receiving end of many "simple assults" during your (hopefully) short life!!!
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by mrvolleyba11 January 4, 2008 7:55 PM PST
i think he is getting off on the comments, best to totally ignore "tuckerndfw" everybody! don''t even dignify any of his comments with a response and "it" will leave!!!
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by michellem99-2009 January 4, 2008 8:43 PM PST
I am from New England and Tucker done said the burning of whitches in Selem MA. Them men that did this never ever sat right with me. I know they were not whitches but those who suffered health issues. They wanted be rid of them. They are people there who call the blind evil to this day. I KNOW THAT HISTORY. YES SAH. Every family back then lost a love one thru them burning of persons. That bloody whitch hunt..It was them puritans..
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by keithle1 January 4, 2008 8:52 PM PST
What if I kill the girl after I rape her? What will you do to me then?
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by michellem99-2009 January 4, 2008 8:56 PM PST
castrate is memoving his sexual organs. It should be done and that is not cold. So he will have to sit to ****.
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by dbtmellis January 4, 2008 9:09 PM PST
gmond-
"...or removed from society. "

Wouldnt putting a crimimal to death solve this? Or do you have another way that will not waste tax payers hard earnded money?
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by slim1h2o January 4, 2008 9:19 PM PST
That was the sorry state of British justice when the US Constitution was written. They hung for thievery; sometimes children for stealing food.

By Nancey

Thats why we can''t let history,,repeat itself,,,thats why the U.S. exsists today. regards

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