Why Huckabee Won

Evangelicals Boost Former Ark. Governor To Victory In Iowa GOP Caucuses

(CBS)  CBS News Political Consultant Monika L. McDermott analyzes Mike Huckabee's victory in the GOP Iowa caucuses.

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Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee won the Republican caucuses in Iowa on the strength of religion and values, according to a CBS News poll of attendees entering caucus sites on Tuesday night.

Evangelicals put in a strong showing at the caucuses - they made up an overwhelming 6 in 10 of attendees - and Huckabee was their darling, garnering 46 percent of their support in the crowded Republican field.

Participants in the Republican caucuses wanted a candidate who shared their moral values and religious beliefs, and Huckabee was their choice on both counts.

Forty-five percent of caucus-goers said they were looking for a candidate who "shares my values" when deciding whom to support, compared to a third who wanted a candidate who says what he believes, and 14 percent who want a candidate with experience.

Among those who wanted a candidate that shared their values, 44 percent supported Huckabee, while only 26 supported his chief competition, Mitt Romney.

Huckabee also picked up one-third of the voters who wanted a candidate who says what he believes. Romney could only manage 14 percent, while John McCain won 16 percent of these caucus-goers. Romney performed best among voters who were seeking experience: 37 percent supported him. McCain also did well in this group with 35 percent.

Having a candidate who shared their religious beliefs was important to two-thirds - 67 percent -- of voters at the Republican caucuses. Thirty-six percent said it mattered a great deal to their decision on whom to support, and 31 percent said it mattered somewhat.

Among those saying it mattered a great deal, Huckabee trounced his competitors, winning 56 percent of the vote. Only 15 percent of the GOP caucus-goers said a candidate's religious beliefs did not matter at all. Romney grabbed 40 percent of this group.

On issues and ideology, Huckabee was the conservatives' choice. Forty-five percent of caucus attendees called themselves very conservative, and 35 percent of them supported Huckabee, as did 34 percent of those considering themselves to be somewhat conservative.

Moderates - only 11percent of the pool - split between Romney and McCain, at 26 percent apiece. Only 22 percent of moderates supported Huckabee.

Despite attacks by Romney that Huckabee was weak on the issue of illegal immigration, Huckabee eked out an edge among GOP voters who chose immigration as the most important issue nationally. He also won on the issues of Iraq and the economy, garnering either a third or more support from attendees choosing these or immigration as top.

Huckabee's weakest showing was on the issue of terrorism, the most important issue to 21 percent of attendees. Caucus-goers concerned primarily with terrorism split their vote, with 26 percent for Huckabee, 24 percent for Romney and 22 percent for McCain. While McCain did well among these voters, his strongest showing was among those concerned with the war in Iraq. He won one-quarter of these caucus-goers.

Huckabee also showed strength among women - winning 41 percent of female caucus-goers, compared to only 24 percent for Romney. Among men the race was even, with Huckabee winning 26 percent and Romney 27percent.

He also did well among younger GOP voters, winning 39 percent support among caucus-goers under 45 years old. Romney enjoyed steady levels of support among all age groups, and McCain did best among the oldest attendees.

Poll results are based on a National Election Pool entrance poll conducted by Edison Media Research. Interviews were conducted with 1,600 caucus attendees as they entered caucus sites around the state. The margin of error for the poll is +2 percentage points.

Monika L. McDermott is assistant professor of political science at the University of Connecticut, where she teaches and conducts research on voting behavior and public opinion. Before joining the University of Connecticut, McDermott worked in election polling for CBS News and the Los Angeles Times. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from the University of California, Los Angeles.

[newideas1]

Mike Huckabee earned his victory tonight with the sweat, determination, and principled discipline that we should all expect from a President. If you are impressed with his victory, I encourage you to take my challenge by visiting:

www.abuckforhuck.com

[jetranger7]

Shucks a Bee !!!

[giantrobot2]

Congratulations Mike!

Mike Huckabee made political history today. Being outspent 20 to 1 and with every news organization in the world twisting the truth about him they couldnt fool the American people.

Mike Huckabee is a great role model for society. He has so much integrity, honesty, humbleness, charisma and good sense of humor.

Mike Huckabee is taking American to higher ground with a new American spirit. One that stops the squabbling and bickering from left to right to one that leads the country up.

This truly was the David and Goliath story. Mike Huckabee took out his sling shot with a small stone in it and knocked down the giant Romeny. Crash!!! You can hear the earth shake with the aftershocks of the giant falling.

[winghunter]

The Huckster may have won due to the wrong belief he has religion and values...sure, he talks a big game but, when it comes to walking the talk he''s just another con artist selling snake-oil.

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[tyahlstrom]

Mitt Romney is clearly the most qualified candidate in this race on both sides. Nobody has a record like he does. He is the only one who has enough experience and will to really make a change in Washington. The reason Mr. Huckabee won is not because he is better suited to be president, but because Iowans were primarily looking for someone who share their common values. Romney shares these exact same values, but he%u2019s Mormon, Huckabee is Baptist. Looks like voters did let religion interfere with their vote.

[tyahlstrom]

Iowa wasted their vote on Huckabee. I like him as a person, but he is not the strongest candidate for president, and doesn%u2019t have the support to anywhere else to get him to the presidency. Iowa voted primarily on who shared their same values; however, if they wanted someone with values who actually has a chance at the presidency, they should have gone with Romney.

[pentecostal4]

Congratulations Mike Huckabee from an Australian. I''ve been watching the candidates closely here in Australia and prayed you would win in Iowa. God bless you mightily...we need good strong christians leading our countries. For the next President of the U.S.A., Lord may it be....MIKE HUCKABEE.

[wasatch01-2009]

CNN is reporting that Huckabee only 4% of the vote from people who are not Evangelicals. Romney came out as the clear winner if you eliminate that voting block. Now that Huckabee is leading he better start getting heavy looks from the media. Romney and Rudy have been analyzed on everything for the last year. The media better be asking Huckabee "though he sounds good" why he rose taxes like a liberal? Why he fought to take tax money and give it to illegal immigrants in college? Why he gave a 1000+ pardons? I want answers from the Huckawannabe. Enough of the one-liners and lip service to Evangeleicals...because that will not do the trick in NH.

[asianlad]

I am from Asia and I am excited at the thought that an authentic person, one who staunchly defends unborn babies, marriage, morality, the poor, and God, will become the leader of the free world.

It will be a better world indeed. Go Mike!

[person_man]

First, Mike Huckabee was not outspent in Iowa 20 to 1. Huckabee cannot beat a democrat. Sure Romney spent money, but he also raised the most of any of the Republican candidates. Evidently people want him to be elected and they donate money to his cause. If nothing else the Iowa result illustrates that the primary system is ridiculous. Huckabee ONLY has the support of the evangelical wing of the Republican party. He is going to have to whitewash his record to get the support of the rest of the party.

[person_man]

Why was Romney not given time on TV tonight? I heard remarks on news programs from Obama, Clinton, Huckabee, and Edwards, but not from Romney. I guess the liberal media bias strikes again.

[mike7643]

As a mormon who has lived throughout the midwest, I am not surprised with the results. The pundits are clueless about the long history of deep-rooted fear and misunderstanding that evangelicals have for mormons. These feelings are mostly flamed by preachers, and there is still a large contingent of evangelicals who will never vote for a mormon no matter what the facts indicate. It played a role here.

[duffyn]

This huckabee with evangelicals and "family values" and "morals" almost makes me literally sick to my stomach it sounds so much like bush speak. ohhh yuck, America don''t do this to yourself!!!! Like my Grandma always said and I have found to be so true, "If you need help - look for a sinner"!!!!

[missingamerica]

Maybe Huckabee won because he doesn''t have the backing of the type of people who run "Swift Boat" ads and think that investing in water rights is the next coming thing after oil since a dying man is sure to pay top dollar for a drink of water.

[kissamaarse]

Huckabee will seek to legislate in Americans'' bedrooms, bowing to his electoral master who worship the light-eyed, light-skinned materialistic Germanic Jesus, rather than the swarthy desert Jew of truth. Sick.

[fairness1]

Are some Republicans really this stupid?? Whenever the media or some other pin- head refers to Romney''s contrast ads, it is ALWAYS called a "negative" or "attack" ad. What is "negative" or "attacking" about informing voters about differences in positions held by candidates?? NOTHING! Attacking a persons character or calling someone "dishonest," however, is "negative." Competing issues are why we have elections -- some Republicans need to stop playing games and get seriuos on this issue now or it will come back to bite us hard in the general election (this is exactly what the leftwing media is setting us up for folks - use your brain and look past the primary for just a moment). How can voters decide between candidates without making a comparison? If you are not making comparisons about candidates, then you have no business voting!!! If in the general election a Republican nominee is unable to provide a contrast ad wihout generally being veiwed as negative or attacking, we''ll have our hands tied behind our backs. Republicans will not get contrasting positions on candidates from the "mainstream" leftwing media on the issues that matter and each time our nominee seeks to have a disucsion or run ad on these issues, the media and all will say our candidate is being negative, attacking and mean spirited -- which is just absurd.

[fairness1]

Saying that a candidate is "dishonest" or like your evil boss seeking to lay you off is a personal attack (it is conclusionary and argumentative in nature and deeply personal) and reflects poorly on the speaker. It has no place in the Republican party and has nothing to do with the competing issues among candiates and real issues Americans face in this election such as the economy, immigration, national security, etc. The liberal media will let these kinds of personal attacks pass for a while as it serves their purpose, but mark my word on this folks....they will not be so warm and fuzzy with these types of personal attacks against their Democrat candidate in the general election. Shame on Iowa evangelicals for rewarding this kind of behavior in our party.

[pjacobsuk]

Huckabee not only has a ''change-for-the-better'' vision, but a track record that proves that he''s a man of his word and does what he says he''ll do. Observant people will recoginize this.

[fairness1]

Survey says... try again Lexluthor5. You must be watching too much MSNBC. Can someone help Lexluthor5 recall which Republican candicate called the other candidate "dishonest" and compared Romney to an evil boss seeking to lay you (the voter) off?? Whenever the media or some other pin- head refers to Romney''''s contrast ads, it is ALWAYS called a "negative" or "attack" ad. What is "negative" or "attacking" about informing voters about differences in positions held by candidates?? Attacking a persons character or calling someone "dishonest," however, is "negative." Some Republicans need to stop playing games and get seriuos on this issue now or it will come back to bite us hard in the general election!! If in the general election a Republican nominee is unable to provide a contrast ad wihout generally being veiwed as negative or attacking, we''''ll have our hands tied behind our backs. Republicans will not get contrasting positions on candidates from the "mainstream" leftwing media on the issues that matter and each time our nominee seeks to have a disucsion or run ad on these issues, the media and all will say our candidate is being negative, attacking and mean spirited -- which is just absurd.

[fairness1]

Lexluthor5 provides a good example of comments that are negative, attacking and name calling. Anyone care to disagree with this??? It just smells bad. Saying that a candidate is "dishonest" or like your evil boss seeking to lay you off is a personal attack (it is conclusionary and argumentative in nature and deeply personal) and reflects poorly on the speaker. It has no place in the Republican party and has nothing to do with the competing issues among candiates and real issues Americans face in this election such as the economy, immigration, national security, etc. The liberal media will let these kinds of personal attacks pass for a while as it serves their purpose, but mark my word on this folks....they will not be so warm and fuzzy with these types of personal attacks against their Democrat candidate in the general election.

[apolloknowsa]

This is a direct result of the months of fliers on windows at churches, the whisper campaigns by preachers, and the amazingly open and blatant bigotry against Mormons and Catholics by Huckabee and his supporters.

The GOP will lose its most conservative block of voters in the West (mormons) if this keeps up.

Day after day on TV I saw people in Iowa (CNN FOX...) and asked if they would vote for Mitt, frequently the response was "I would never vote for a Mormon." Could you imagine hearing someone say "I would never vote for a Jew" or "a black"...the last two would be shouted down by the masses, and I would be there protesting the bigotry, but anti-mormon slurs are OK? It is religious bigotry, just the same.
Huckabee knew what he was doing. In the West, in states like Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Washington, Utah, Idaho, Colorado, states that the GOP must win, Mormons are actively debating whether they would just stay home rather than vote for the reincarnation of Governor Boggs. That would cost state legislatures, congressional seats and senators. My cousins that live in Iowa received a near-constant barrage of photocopies, mailers and phone calls reminding them to avoid the cult and vote for the ''true Christian''

Bigotry ruled the day.

[irisheyes555]

Congratulations to Huckabee and Obama for their wins!

[giantrobot2]

Congratulations Mike!

Mike Huckabee made political history today. Being outspent 20 to 1 and with every news organization in the world twisting the truth about him they couldnt fool the American people.

Mike Huckabee is a great role model for society. He has so much integrity, honesty, humbleness, charisma and good sense of humor.

Mike Huckabee is taking American to higher ground with a new American spirit. One that stops the squabbling and bickering from left to right to one that leads the country up.

This truly was the David and Goliath story. Mike Huckabee took out his sling shot with a small stone in it and knocked down the giant Romeny. Crash!!! You can hear the earth shake with the aftershocks of the giant falling.

[ghettobill2]

i''m completely disappointed in the evangelicals for supporting Huckubee over Ron Paul. Mike Huckabee is a warmonger. How can any christian support a candidate that in any way, shape or form supports an aggressive war. Jesus said "love your enemies." and "blessed are the peacemakers." Rome was far more dangerous, hostile, cruel, blashemous than these so called modern "terrorist." But in Scripture you hear Jesus say, "If a Roman soldier asks you to carry his pack a mile, carry it an extra mile." He essentially was saying, "serve your enemy." the way you defeat and subvert evil is by practicing a suffering love, a serving love. You don''t love your enemies by dropping bombs on them nor by occupying their lands for the sake of greed. I''m ashamed of every christian that would vote for this warmonger. Ron Paul is a far more virtuous man and a true peacemaker.

[dutch2693]

Congratulations to Mike

He ran a good campaign, with virtually no money. Mike did not win because he is an Evangelical Christian. He won by speaking to issues and concerns of the middle class. He doesn''t want to just cut taxes, he wants to change entire tax system. To call Mike a bigot, or say that this was a religious right conspiracy against the Mormon people is just stupid. Mike made history last night, not by just being a Christian, but actually acting like one! He proved that you can no longer be an empty suit, and buy the votes of the American People. You have to have vision, and the ability to connect with the needs of common everyday people. Today, is a new day in American Politics.

[heartlandjim]

Mother Of All Messages To Republicans
Change is the message.

If I had told you a month ago that Mike Huckabee would win out over the Far Right "Talk radio, Drudge, blog, pundent, National Review,and Ann Coulter" machine I would have been laughed out of the room. Last night Iowans screamed the message for all Republicans to hear.

We want change!! Mike Huckabee heard their message and won going away.

Change is actually being willing to knock heads and get something done about -

Sealing the southern border
Energy independence in 10 years
A more "Fair Tax" system
Winning the war in Irag
A stronger milatary force that if needed will go in with overwhelming odds and quickly secure victory
Steadfastly stand by the santity of life from conception at birth
Is for the 2nd. Ammendment and can shoot a shotgun and bag game to prove it

Only one man is for all the items listed above and for C-H-A-N-G-E. And every item listed above is a conservative value.

If the Right side pundents after last night''s victory by Mike finally see this we still have a chance to win. If they don''t Barrock Obama''s near perfect "I Have A Dream Speech" will propel him all the way to the White House.

Mike Huckabee is our only chance!!

[missingamerica]

Reading the comments, I wonder if I''m not seeing the birth of a new extremist movement a la the neocons, but oriented around religious advocacy rather than power and money.

What shall we call them?

NeoMyGodCanWhupYourGods?

[ghettobill2]

the best thing that could ever happen to the middle class is for a congress and a president to greatly reduce income, corporate, and capital gains taxes. This in the ONLY way a politican can "create jobs" or improve the economy. If there is anothe way, I''d love to hear from some liberal, big goverment lover. And not ONE of the Democratic candidates will do this. They ALL want to raise these taxes. When you raise corporate and capital gains taxes on business either: 1. Layoff workers 2. Go out business 3. Leave the country to escape oppressive taxes. This means NO jobs for the middle class. Why in the hell would you punish those who risk their capital to start companies which create jobs??? Please tell me how a Democrat would create more jobs? They will only drive them out of business or out of the country. What are they, or those who vote for them, thinking?? Could some liberal explain to me how raising taxes on corporations helps produce jobs? Jennifer Granholm, the Democratic governor of Michigan recently raised income and corporate taxes and she said her reason was to help bring jobs to Michigan!!! What insanity. She''s created, by far, the worst economy in the country. I keep hearing Mike Huckabee is a BIG government Republican and a tax hike guy. Is this right? I know Ron Paul would cut income, corporate and capital gains taxes. His record proves it. Does Mike Huckabee''s record prove it?

[missingamerica]

"the best thing that could ever happen to the middle class is for a congress and a president to greatly reduce income, corporate, and capital gains taxes."

Posted by ghettobill2 at 07:57 AM : Jan 04, 2008

That argument has been proven to be so lame it is boring. Listening to it has pushed the income inequality curve

"http://www.demos.org/inequality/numbers.cfm"

far, far out of whack while destroying the U.S. jobs market over the last 28 years.

Why? Because the wealthy are too stinking greedy to actually permit anything to "trickle down" - other than as endowments to elitest universities where they can get a building named after them, or some flaky opera where they and their wealthy friends can go mingle, and so on.

The wealthy get more and more of America''s income, but do they in fact create the same amount of consumer demand that the middle class and poor would, were they not losing that share to the wealthy?

Hell, no.

Ask yourself just how many toasters, washing machines, cars, bags of groceries, diapers, etc. etc. etc. the wealthy are buying.

And the corporations - are they allowing their tax savings to "trickle down"?

Hell, no.

Look around - are the corporations building new factories in America, or are they building new factories in nations with cheap labor and lax environmental laws so they can push the increased profits off to their C-level execs and their wealthy stockholders - and keep the income circle closed?

[mike71067]

Ok. Would somebody explain to me why evangelical Christians are supporting this guy just because he''s a minister? He''s a friggin'' LIBERAL.

[ghettobill2]

That argument has been proven to be so lame it is boring. Listening to it has pushed the income inequality curve


Again, my question remains, how will a Democrat create jobs?? They can''t. I realize many companies are greedy and may not reinvest thier profits into higher wages or back into thier companies, but i know MANY that DO. Give me an alternative. Government can only offer services like better road, bridges, parks, goodies, entitlements--all at the expense of the taxpayer. The ONLY way the government can help the enconomy is either to stay out of it, or reduce taxes. I, myself, own nursing homes and when I have good years, I pass it on to my employees with bonuses and pay raises. When the government raises my taxes it only takes away from my ability to bless my middle class workers. It is the same with most of the business owners I know. You''ve been duped by the John Edwards of this world who want to blame the greedy corporations. This is only populism that doesn''t work in the real world.

[likeitis5050]

People are acting like they''ve been elected already. We have a long way to go...but am I thrilled to see Hillary fall flat on her azz right out of the gate? Yeeeeeeeeeah!!!! What a hoot. All the spin about her having the female vote....hahahahaaa....I am so excited.

[prinzowhales]

Hucksterbee seems to appeal to the superficial...the same kind of people who support Jimmy and Tammy Faye Baker...Pat Robertson and the like...the people who listen to candidates and don''t think about what they say...

Decades ago a FBI agent told me that Utah was popular with confidence men because the people were mainly Mormons and very trusting souls...easy to take advantage of...

Hucksterbee, a ''hoke''um and soak ''um'' acolyte of the tele-evangelist community, was schooled in the art of religious salesmanship...you can see it in every move he makes...I hope people who erred in supporting this creature will think about what he says...

He is for war. He is for open borders. He is for a tax system that will allow America to be part and parcel of a global plantation with incomes taken from America untaxed and Americans paying onerous taxes oon every transaction they make.

YOU SUPPORT THIS MAN AT YOUR PERIL!

[missingamerica]

Government can only offer services like better road, bridges, parks, goodies, entitlements--all at the expense of the taxpayer. The ONLY way the government can help the enconomy is either to stay out of it, or reduce taxes. I, myself, own nursing homes and when I have good years, I pass it on to my employees with bonuses and pay raises. When the government raises my taxes it only takes away from my ability to bless my middle class workers. It is the same with most of the business owners I know. You''''ve been duped by the John Edwards of this world who want to blame the greedy corporations. This is only populism that doesn''''t work in the real world.


Posted by ghettobill2 at 08:49 AM : Jan 04, 2008

Couple of things. I gather you have not looked at the nation''s infrastructure of late?

It is falling apart.

Secondly, "I, myself, own nursing homes" and "my middle class workers"?

That is contradictory - unless you pay wages that are unheard of in the average nursing home.

Third, "to bless my middle class workers"?

"Bless"? What, they don''t earn their money - you are in fact a saint, archangel, or some other form of "nearer to God than thee" life form who ordinarily merely deigns to pay his workers and occasionally "blesses" them?

Methinks it would be fun to audit your nursing homes.

[prinzowhales]

We are in a faux-war on terror, suffer the criminality of the Oligarchs who own the and control the corporations and are as evil as any of their fellow internationalists in Germany who rendered the Roman salute to Adloph Hitler as Gauliters and SS vermin or, from the safety of New York, sent millions of dollars and swarms of communists under Lev Trotsky to destroy an ally and murder millions.

The people behind Merck and Big Pharma...behind Halliburton...behind Big Oil...behind the Federal Reserve and the Big International Banks...behind FOX and Big Media...are the scum of the earth--the mainstream candidates are in their service, not yours...just as the big mining and mill companies would seed their communities with preachers who sold the company line with the imprimatur of God, Hucksterbee is selling the same line using the pulpit of the modern corporate backed ''church.''

[ghettobill2]

Isn''t it interesting that a liberal, big government lover cannot answer a simple question as to HOW government can create jobs? I''ve posited this question again and again with no reply. Because thier is no anwer. Obama, Edwards, Clinton cannot create jobs. Government can only hurt the economy. History bears this out. The free market has won. nanny statism has no platform. Again, how does government create jobs? BESIDES cutting taxes there is no other way.

[missingamerica]

Government can only offer services like better road, bridges, parks, goodies, entitlements--all at the expense of the taxpayer. ... I, myself, own nursing homes ... You''ve been duped by the John Edwards of this world who want to blame the greedy corporations. This is only populism that doesn''''''''t work in the real world.


Posted by ghettobill2 at 08:49 AM : Jan 04, 2008

OMG!!!! How did I let that slip by me? I must be getting senile.

How in the dickens do you reconcile your "entitlements--all at the expense of the taxpayer." and "I, myself, own nursing homes" statements?

You, who are getting wealthy from Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid payments, don''t want to have to pay taxes?

roflmao...You are the epitome of the neocon rapist of the public''s treasury.

[ghettobill2]

I promise to vote for Obama or Edwards or Clinton if you can answer this question--how will any one of them create jobs or help the economy? JUST ONE practical way. they can throw around words like "hope" or "change" but what kind of change will create one single job?

[missingamerica]

Isn''t it interesting that a liberal, big government lover cannot answer a simple question as to HOW government can create jobs?

Posted by ghettobill2 at 09:20 AM : Jan 04, 2008

How can government create jobs?

Creating new and maintaining/improving existing infrastructure.

Financing research into needed things - like alternative energy, the cure for cancer, AIDS, etc. etc.

Financing R&D programs designed to ensure that America doesn''t lose any more of its technological lead.

Improving education to improve the overall quality of our work force.

Improving education to so that more people have the skills to both invent and become entrepreneurs.

Subsidizing the adoption of alternative energy so we don''t have to go play war anywhere there is oil.

On, and on, and on...but I know - if it isn''t putting money directly into YOUR pockets, then it is one of those stinking "entitlement" programs in your eyes, right?

[prinzowhales]

Religious Obscurantism is on the march! From the medieval monsters of Opus Dei who serve Darkness and Mammon and support the butchery of those who oppose the Oligarchy, to the mill town Hucksterbees who preach servitude, war and Mammon to the dumbed down masses in America in the name of Jesus...Religion has been twisted into an instrument to serve Oligarchy.

Hucksterbee is for open borders. He is for war. He is for the police state. His tax policies will leave the incomes derived from the American economy and sent abroad untaxed while the inocmes of the doltish middle class who support him will be taxed--they will bear the full burden of the massive debts layed up by the Oligarchy for the war on terror that THEY started and profited from through their criminal enterprises like Halliburton (now HQ''s offshore) and international corporations who consider themselves "global"--NOT AMERICAN! Tax them! Tax them all to ''ell!

[missingamerica]

lolll..you should never have said that you own nursing homes, ghettobill2. Now every time you say something against "big government" I start laughing, because you are in fact a corporate welfare mamma.

[im4honesty]

Clinton cannot create jobs. Government can only hurt the economy. History bears this out. The free market has won. nanny statism has no platform. Again, how does government create jobs? BESIDES cutting taxes there is no other way.


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Posted by ghettobill2

What a stupid comment. Bill Clinton shrank the government and created 22 MILLION new jobs, while Bush has doubled the size of government and job growth has not kept up with the the emerging new job seekers.

[ghettobill2]

who will save medicare? more government spending will only further bankrupt this country. Don''t you think Dems will continue to spend and spend us into massive debt.

[quetzal666]

a good way to create jobs is to stop wasting $$$ in Iraq, rebuild infrastructure with that $$$$
public works. etc...

[ghettobill2]

i''ll agree with you there. Bush is a big government facist. Bill was a centrist who understood economics, Hillary has no clue. She will create a massive bloated government

[missingamerica]

who will save medicare? more government spending will only further bankrupt this country. Don''t you think Dems will continue to spend and spend us into massive debt.

Posted by ghettobill2 at 09:40 AM : Jan 04, 2008

Save medicare? Your ownership of nursing homes is showing. But that is OK; if more of the greedy just were smart enough to grasp that government programs that help the many also help them, we''d all be better off.

It is called "enlightened self-interest".

As to your question: The Republicans, in fact, are the world (and I do mean "world") record holders for indebting a nation, or have you forgotten?

[im4honesty]

Another stupid comment. Bill Clinton left our country with a surplus and for the first time we were actually paying down the national debt. It is the Republican administration that has bankrupted our country.

[missingamerica]

i''''ll agree with you there. Bush is a big government facist. Bill was a centrist who understood economics, Hillary has no clue. She will create a massive bloated government

Posted by ghettobill2 at 09:42 AM : Jan 04, 2008

Ahhh, the crux of your problem...I suppose that as the owner of nursing homes any program that might take some of the slop out of what you can get away with charging absolutely terrifies your wallet...

[quetzal666]

i really hope Huckleberry dinglebarry does not get elected....ill move to mars....

[ghettobill2]

to clarify. i am not against taxes completely. I am against bloated, irresponsible spending. I am against nation building, empire building, corportism--by this i mean the politicians staking the deck for them. I am for people owning business that prosper. But I also believe big government, high taxes devestate the average American business person. The extremly rich corporations will only find ways to evade these taxes. Big government regulations and taxes only hurt those companies that are honest.