July 27, 2008

John Martorano: The Executioner

Steve Kroft Interviews Triggerman Of Boston's Notorious Winter Hill Gang

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(CBS)  Martorano says it wasn't the first or the last time he would get useful information from an FBI man. One of the FBI's top organized crime investigators in Boston, a corrupt agent named John Connolly, helped them out for years. Martorano says it was Connolly who told them that an associate of theirs named John Callahan was about to rat them out on the Wheeler murder. Callahan would become Martorano's 20th and final victim.

"Do you think that John Connolly knew that you were gonna kill Callahan?" Kroft asks.

"Sure," Martorano says. "He said it, 'We're all going to go to jail the rest of our life if this guy doesn't get killed.'"

"And this an FBI agent telling you this?" Kroft asks.

"This is an FBI agent telling it to Whitey, telling it to me," Martorano says.

Martorano has already told this story under oath, and is expected to tell it again to a jury in Florida in September when Connolly goes on trial for complicity in that murder. He's already serving a ten-year sentence for obstructing justice. In the end, it was a Massachusetts State Police investigation that began to unravel the Winter Hill Gang. In 1995, Martorano, Flemmi and Whitey Bulger were all indicted for racketeering. Bulger, who was tipped off by Connolly about his impending arrest, went underground and is still a fugitive. And in a Boston courtroom, Martorano was about to learn something that would change his life forever.

He knew that Bulger and Flemmi had been getting information from the FBI. But he didn't know they had been also been providing it. For decades, his partners were top-level FBI informants, snitching on the Italian mafia and on Martorano and other gang members. They had violated his code of loyalty, especially Whitey Bulger.

"I'll go along with a lot of things, but not -- no Judas, not no informant," Martorano says. "I never informed or ratted on nobody. And if I could've killed him, I would've killed him. But he wasn't there and that's what I think he deserves."

Martorano decided to strike back the only way he could, using words as his weapon. "I gave him back what he gave everybody else," Martorano says.

"You became an informant?" Kroft asks.

"Nope, I became a government witness," Martorano says. "Not an informant, or a rat. I became a government witness."

Asked what the difference is, Martorano tells Kroft, "One's got the courage to stand on the stand, the other ones' are doin' it behind your back, and droppin' dimes. And how can I be rattin' on a guy who's the rat for 30 years? I'm tryin' to stop him from rattin' anymore."

Bulger, who is still on the FBI's "Most Wanted" list, is now facing 19 murder charges as a result largely of Martorano’s testimony, and Flemmi is in prison for life. His cooperation helped solve nearly 40 murders, including the 20 he confessed to -- and it helped uncover secret mob graves -- all in return for a sentence of just 14 years.

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by July 28, 2008 11:07 PM EDT
so let me get this straight? if i us the gd word i''m condemned to hell, but if i go to chruch and ask for forgiveness i can end up on 60 minutes for murdering dozen of people? huh?
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by July 28, 2008 11:07 PM EDT
so let me get this straight? if i us the gd word i''m condemned to hell, but if i go to chruch and ask for forgiveness i can end up on 60 minutes for murdering dozen of people? huh?
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by patriot12436 July 28, 2008 2:56 AM EDT
Alicebrown
This you can fid in all faiths as no one is perfect. Still we do not condemm because of the acts of some the whole religion.
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by patriot12436 July 28, 2008 2:54 AM EDT
I turned away from the Christain faith, it didn''t give me what i was looking for. I still respect the christain religion. It is ran by man so is fallible and they make mistakes like everyone else. You do not condemm a religion because it makes mistakes, you learn from it and try toi move forward in a positive direction.
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by dpmj5001 July 27, 2008 11:55 PM EDT
I cannot believe this guy after killing 20 + people only got 14 years behind bars, while Bill Erpenbeck, a Northern Kentucky home builder convicted of bank fraud has a sentence of 25 years with no chance of a reduced sentence. Please view KyPost.com David..
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by dooney8 July 27, 2008 11:38 PM EDT
I''m pretty sure they already made a movie, and it won an Oscar for best picture. Way to stay on top of current events cajun3. And why would you oppose inceased penalties for rape? Hmmmmm.....

LEXMAN141 has the best post. If you''re story is true it made the comments section worht reading.
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by bastiano-2009 July 27, 2008 10:43 PM EDT
RE Your Martorano story. He insists that he is not a ''stool pigeon'' and is a ''standup guy''.

Bulls__t! He knows what a standup guy is. A standup guy by definition does not send his asscoiates to prison. Capice?

He is a RAT!!!
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by lexman141 January 8, 2008 1:04 AM EST
I represented Mr. Martorano in Tulsa County District Court.

My representation was pro bono. After this seemingly avuncular entered his plea and received his sentence, he looked me in the eye and said "Skip, thanks for all your help, when I get out I''ll take care of you" (I think he meant payment). I replied "John forget we ever met." I never heard from him again.
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by toshi43 January 7, 2008 10:11 PM EST
Incredible. This guy admits killing 20 people and walks free, and in the same country (not sure which state) they''re trying to get rape declared a capital offence. I''ll bet the movie deal''s already in the works.
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by cager-lowry January 7, 2008 6:26 PM EST
Martorano will burn in hell justifiably and soon.
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by akakjb January 7, 2008 4:43 PM EST
Wow - he got the same amount of Our Fathers & Hail Marys for whacking 20 people that I got in Catholic school for having to make up something to confess (hey, I''m 12 and having to go to confession once a week, how much am I going to have to confess in a week?).

But I do understand his just assimilating to his environment. You see it everywhere, from ''da hood'' to what''s thought of as upper class society. People really are a product of the environment they grow up in. That doesn''t make anything this guy did right but I agree with the deal the government cut with him. The potential for good to come out of the deal vs. society''s need for retribution has definitely borne out. If you''re particularly worried about this guy being on the streets of Boston, I wouldn''t worry. I''m sure there''s someone else out there with the same upbringing as his that will satisfy you before too long.

Oh, and leafsintrees, the mental health center called and they want you to go back on the meds. And please bring back their monkey - they''re afraid you''re being a bad influence on it.
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by ostapbender-2009 January 7, 2008 3:39 PM EST
You missed a golden opportunity in not having John Martarano interview Roger Clemens. That would be real investigative journalism.

Maybe next time?
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by goldvalley1 January 7, 2008 11:26 AM EST
This man, unfortunately, was raised a coward and lived the life of a coward. Our young adults should take no credence much less heroism in this man''s beliefs and actions.
Sometimes being physical is necessary unto defence. For example; The day I needed to save Dave VanGorder (drafted by the Reds to replace Johny Bench when he retired) from a bull mastiff of a mans assault on him. Dave was taking a beating until I stepped in and convinced the perpetrator his life was mine to take, and take with my bare hands if he didn''t repent and change his perspective. To the astonished belief of all who was present, the man walked away without as much as a scratch. (Easily verifiable via Dave VanGorder himself.) By the way, Dave never used (IPID)!! Yet he could throw out the fastest base runner, (without getting up off his knees) if he thought he could steel second on Dave.
Gerard J Washburn
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by cfin5 January 7, 2008 11:00 AM EST
Mr. Martorano did what his kind do. He doesn''t disgust me half as much as any crooked cop. I kept reading on to find the demise of the "judas agent".
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by brianbwb-2009 January 7, 2008 5:57 AM EST
t is just business. No need to get your panties in a wad. As Charlie Chaplin observed, "Kill one and it is murder, kill a million and it is a statistic". Posted by dustfullman

You forgot one, "Kill them all, you''re a God"...
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by brianbwb-2009 January 7, 2008 5:56 AM EST
Posted by Paul783

I understand your sadness at Martorano, but don''t you think it is even worse that the priest gave such a penance?
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by paul783 January 7, 2008 5:09 AM EST
As a Catholic I was saddened and grossly insulted by the Martorano%u2019s heartless description of the powerful Catholic sacrament of reconciliation. He went on to mention %u201Cthat he had finally gone to confession after thirty years and confessed his (sordid) actions to a priest.%u201D So far, so good, but then he flippantly conveys that the priest said to him %u2013 %u201Csay ten Our Fathers and ten Hail Mary%u2019s and don%u2019t do it again!%u201D I%u2019m sorry, but what could have been a beautiful opportunity for a serious sinner to humbly share about the awesome Mercy of Almighty God - turned into a mockery of the very Church and Sacrament that helped to save his eternal soul.
Yes, God is merciful and will forgive ANY sin we confess with a contrite heart, but God is also perfectly just. Salvation is ultimately between God and the sinner, but our %u201Cregretful%u201D Martorano will most likely have to pay his dues in this life and the next. The concept of Purgatory is no longer in vogue in our secular humanist society, but that doesn%u2019t mean it doesn%u2019t exist as the Church teaches it! The Catholic Church teaches us that, yes, if our killer was contrite he will eventually be with God in heaven only through the actions of Jesus dying of the cross for us, but his soul may spend a very, very long time in purgatory until our coldhearted hero gets it right - and eventually figures out what the virtues of love, compassion and forgiveness are.
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by dustfullman January 7, 2008 3:35 AM EST
Invoking the First Responders has become synonymous with supporting the troops as a way of questioning the patriotism and judgment of someone who disagrees with the party line. For some reason when the first responders actually do what they are paid for they automatically become heroes. Go George.
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by runningralph January 7, 2008 3:17 AM EST
toffeenose,
I think the majority would agree with you that the crack dealers should be put back into their neighborhoods to wreak more havoc. The only ones who might disagree are the first responders who have to deal with the havoc. I''m sure their old neighborhoods would love to have them back.
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by burchtree11 January 7, 2008 3:04 AM EST
i am sitting here watching 60 minutes as usual on a Sunday evening.
I am stunned you would spend a minute of your time on that convicted
gang killer. Hes a piece of garbage as shown by his lack of remorse on the interview.people like this DO NOT deserve ANY recognition by anyone. You usually do a pretty good job informing the public on IMPORTANT people and activites in this nation and the world. You missed the boat with this piece. I think you owe the viewing public an apology.
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