Will Ron Paul Play Spoiler?

GOP Presidential Hopeful May Be Polling In The Single Digits, But He's Flush With Cash And Not Going Away

(CBS)  This story was written by CBSNews.com political reporter Brian Montopoli.

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Ask Ron Paul's supporters, and they'll tell you they fully expect a certain anti-war, anti-federal reserve, anti-department of education, pro-small federal government congressman from Texas to be the Republican nominee for president.

Ask the pollsters, however, and they'll tell you a different story. Paul has 4 percent support nationally from Republican voters in the most recent CBS News/New York Times poll, which puts him in sixth place. He's doing a bit better in the crucial early voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire - polls in both states put him around 8 percent support - but he remains a long shot to win either contest.

Polling doesn't mean everything, of course, and Paul's backers will tell you that the numbers don't reflect Paul's true levels of support. But even in New Hampshire, where Republicans are famously libertarian-leaning, the congressman may have reached his ceiling, according to University of New Hampshire political scientist Dante Scala.

"There's still a vein of rugged individualism in New Hampshire, especially among Republicans, but I think Paul has tapped into that vein already," says Scala. "I think we've seen as many as he's gonna get."

Still, Paul has the cash to keep his name, and message, front and center: He raised $6 million in a one-day fundraising drive on Sunday, bringing him to $18 million in the past three months, a stunning total for a candidate polling at less than five percent support nationally. He has been running television ads in New Hampshire as part of a $1.1 million ad buy, and has a new spot in production that will be on the air soon, according to his campaign. He has passionate backers willing to do everything they can to spread the Ron Paul gospel - whether via blog comment, YouTube video featuring original music, or giant blimp. And he has vowed to stay in the race until at least Feb. 5th.

All of which means Paul has a real chance to make a difference in who becomes the Republican presidential nominee - even if it's not him. In New Hampshire, independent voters can vote in either party's primary, and Paul, one of the few GOP candidates to break with Republican orthodoxy on a number of issues, is fighting for their support. His main rivals may be two other candidates who appeal to unaffiliated voters: Sen. John McCain and Sen. Barack Obama.

McCain's strategy in the crucial first primary state, in fact, relies largely on winning over independents, who helped him beat George W. Bush by 18 points in the 2000 New Hampshire primary. McCain recently won the endorsement of perhaps the country's most well-known independent - Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut - and has been touring the state with him in an effort to woo independent voters.

Paul and McCain are the sorts of candidates that make traditional Republican primary voters uneasy, in part because of their positions on the war (in Paul's case) and illegal immigration (in McCain's.) But there is one crucial difference, according to Dick Bennett, president of American Research Group: Republican primary voters don't see Paul as a potential winner.

"Undeclared voters want to pick a candidate who has some chance of being president," says Bennett. "The vast majority of those voters don't believe that Paul does."

Bennett characterizes Paul's supporters as "out of the Republican mainstream."

"It's a mixture of old-right conservatives that feel a little disenfranchised with where they Republican Party has gone," says Paul spokesman Jesse Benton. "A lot of independents who are sick and tired of this war and Democrats who won't commit to significant troop level reductions until 2013. And there's a whole new base of supporters, people in their 20s and 30s, who have not been in politics before."

Benton acknowledges the difficulty of convincing traditional Republican voters to support Paul.

"One of the characteristics of being a conservative is loyalty," Benton says. "Conservatives are very loyal. So it's been a difficult conversation to talk to conservatives about this war, especially conservatives who are remaining loyal to the Bush administration and our failed policy in Iraq."

Paul is a polarizing figure: The only GOP candidate who regularly gets booed in debates, he also inspires the kind of rabid support from his supporters you rarely see for more traditional candidates like Mitt Romney.

"I don't think he's anybody's second choice," says Scala. "You either love the guy, think he's the answer to the country's problems, or you've either never heard of the guy and have all these negative perceptions of him."

If the majority of Paul's supporters are truly outsiders to the political process, his presence in the race may not make much difference, since Paul voters wouldn't have broken for a candidate like McCain in the first place. But Paul's campaign, with its decentralized fundraising and unabashed libertarian ethos, has already proven that it can surprise people. Pressed to compare Paul to candidates who have come before him, Scala takes a good ten seconds to answer.

"Steve Forbes was a bit of a libertarian on economic issues, but he's nothing like Paul," says Scala. "There's Pat Buchanan in 1992, but that doesn't really work either. This campaign so far has really been in a class by itself."

[brettrix]

Ron Paul is the only real hope for America - the America that we learned about in school... the America that allows individuals to choose their fate - not the one where the govt takes care of everyone.

liberty and freedom can only be provided by ROn Paul - research the other candidates and you will see they are all the same - they think they know what is best for you...

Ron Paul - hope for America.... land of the free and the brave.

[bucko1581]

I am getting tired of people writing about how Ron Paul can''t win. You said yourself that "there''s a whole new base of supporters, people in their 20s and 30s, who have not been in politics before." This whole new base isn''t being polled. The polls only reflect people who voted in the GOP primary in 2004. Not to mention they also need to have land line phones.

[wisen1]

If Ron Paul becomes the Republican nominee he will most certainly become a spoiler. He will split the Democratic vote and win the presidency by an overwhelming margin.

[brettrix]

what''s scary to me is that last night, while discussing politics with an intelligent young man - the man stated the biggest reasons for Republicans to not support Ron Paul was that he was against the basic principles of the Republican party - he referred to the marriage amnedmant and the war on drugs as 2 examples of Ron going against the basic principles of the Republicans - then the man stated that he suppported Rudy Guiliani - the cross-dressing, pro-abortion, thrice married, no family supported candidate and I said - if you represent the Republican party then i am ashamed of being a member of it.

it''s scary when someone who appear intelligent is so opposed to Ron Paul because of some of his stances that they will back someone who is 100 times more ''immoral''

please, if you are a real republican, research Ron Paul and help save liberty in America... he is our last hope.

[gjolsen]

Ron Paul will win without a doubt. The national poll numbers are simply flat out wrong and America is going to find this out soon. A lot of people are not being polled. Anytime you hear ''registered republicans'' or '' likely republican voter'' it is the first indicator that the media are going to give you wrong, limited demographic numbers. They need to include such demographics as people without landline phones, people who have switched from being libertarian,independent,democrat,and constitutional party members to vote republican and republicans who have been apathetic. This will probably bring Paul''s numbers up to between 22% and 30% EASILY. Get ready for the return of actual conservatism. Romney,Giuliani,McCain and Huckabee need to start a new 3rd party as they keep moving further away from conservatism and more into radical global welfarism/neo-colonialism. The American people don''t want the radical fringe ideas of global welfarism, they want real true Jeffersonian conservatism, and Paul is going to deliver.

[fuzzywzhe]

Despite the fact that the media has plenty of time to cover irrelevant garbage, like for example:

http://www.showbuzz.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/19/people/main3630609.shtml

They will never ever regain their role as a source to educate people about candidates or just general politics.

Mainstream media today is Public Relations, it''s advertisement, and it''s been purchased by a group of people who intend to take this country into a certain direction. That direction isn''t toward Democracy.

I hope Paul supporters wake up to this fact, and realize that their candidate will never be supported by the media anymore than Pravda would be reporting on Democratic movements during the height of the Soviet Union.

[tessies101]

Ron Paul will be no spoiler, he will get the Republican nomination. All the interviews lately have been extremely positive, and are reaching so many, and it is awesome. The endorsements he is getting are from people that count, and not special interest groups. It is no longer about the party affiliation when it comes to choosing the right man or woman for President, it is about our Constitution, and the best candidate that will follow it. That candidate is Ron Paul. Ron Paul has my vote and support.

http://RonPaul2008.com

[DanMorin]

This article is biased in so many ways that it is not worth my time to reply. I better read my news elsewere.

[antoniof123]

Oh brother Ron Paul is not going to win. This is the Republicans last hope the Libertarians know it. While they the true Republicans and they stand for what was Republican, it is no more the nut case who said Ron Paul doesn''t stand for true Republicans is not a true Republican. He is the new Republican they are a disgrace to what it once stood for. Now it seems that this is the last chance for the Libertarians it will not work it ended when they jumped in bed with religion. Let it rest in peace it is over.

[thirty3na3rd]

The major polls are losing major credibility. They are becoming more of a tool to sway public opinion rather than measure it. Too bad this once-proud news organization apparently still worships them without question. See you all at the "real" polls on Primary Day.

[zerxisk78]

Well I believe a lot of people are gonna be in for a shock when all is said and done. Ron Paul has brought a lot of people into his campaign. For all his new donation givers on his last money bomb day there are 3 more registering to vote for him and signing up to be delegates for him. Come election day there will be proof how unfounded those polls are. I am a prime example i own a cell phone only and no house phone like about 70 percent of the people i work with and most of those people that know about Ron Paul at work are going to vote for him. The ones that don''t know that much or say he has no chance aren''t even registered to vote. When the Ron Paul "Shock" comes be ready for Ron Paul to be president.

[zerxisk78]

Well I believe a lot of people are gonna be in for a shock when all is said and done. Ron Paul has brought a lot of people into his campaign. For all his new donation givers on his last money bomb day there are 3 more registering to vote for him and signing up to be delegates for him. Come election day there will be proof how unfounded those polls are. I am a prime example i own a cell phone only and no house phone like about 70 percent of the people i work with and most of those people that know about Ron Paul at work are going to vote for him. The ones that don''t know that much or say he has no chance aren''t even registered to vote. When the Ron Paul "Shock" comes be ready for Ron Paul to be president.

[downtowner97]

I haven''t had a land line for 4 years. Back when I did, I was on the "Do not call" list. Before that, I had caller ID and wouldn''t answer a call from an "unknown caller".

So who has a land line, is home around dinner time when pollsters call, ignores their caller ID telling them they are about to talk to someone they don''t know, and agrees to talk to a pollster? Someone should take a poll.

By the way, I wholeheartedly support Ron Paul and have changed my party affiliation to Republican so I can vote for him in the Oregon primaries.

[donbl1]

Ron Paul is an extremist who will not get the nomination.

Extremists have been proven to be unelectable: McGovern comes to mind among others.

[keeblers69]

Figure this demographic out:

40 year old engineer, middle class veteran, X-Generation. I vote for who I think is the best candidate. I even voted Green one time. I have a landline and I never have ever received a call from any pollsters. I know many people including my bro he has only a cell and is voting for Ron. We even convinced my die hard republican parents who are in there late 60''s. It took several You Tube Video''s though and they are now hooked. People are opening there eyes and seeing for the first time how corrupt things are and how good Freedom truly can be. You can only be lied to for so long and then one day someone shows you the way as Ron is doing. If Ron doesn''t get nominated, this is one of many I am sure will be writing his name in!!!

[lib3rty-2009]

(says Scala. "You either love the guy, think he''s the answer to the country''s problems, or you''ve either never heard of the guy and have all these negative perceptions of him.")
ok first of all if you never heard of him why would you have negative perceptions of him, see this girl doesnt even know what she is saying. why would we listen to someone who is paid anyhow to say what they want her to say..
Thanks for the article but this is ***,,I dont think you guys would know a winner if it bit you in the hiney.. You guys are so bought by the owner of your company, and told what to report on and you have proven that with RON PAUL .. HE has won ALLLLL The polls online abc cbs cnn fox you name it he has won them and not to mention alot of the straw polls and causcuses as well but do you guys even mention that ??? Geeez I can''t believe you call yourself a reporter. Im ashamed of you and if your job means more to you then truth then so be it. I rather you not report on ROn if you gonna report *** like this. GO look at what being an AMerican is sir and ponder on it. And start acting like one.
Have a nice day.
Lib3rty

[docwobbles01]

The USA is being run to ruin by globalists, warmongers and Wall Street profiteers. If Ron Paul isn''t elected President in 2008, then I don''t want to live in this country anymore. I wonder if the Swiss will take me?

[pepperp1]

Yes I believe he can, if the Dems present another weak left of center Nominee which it appears they may, then Paul will pull Independents and Dems who are looking for competence and fiscal restraint, he also would shut down the current mayor of NY as an option. Even his socially conservative positions are not of concern as his Libertarian approach is to stay out of people homes, private lives and pockets. I could vote for him.

[navyretired2]

"Ron Paul is an extremist who will not get the nomination.

Extremists have been proven to be unelectable: McGovern comes to mind among others.

Posted by donbl1 at 10:51 AM : Dec 19, 2007"

One man''s extremist is another man''s grass-roots champion.

I''d agree he''s extremist if he didn''t 100% support the Constitution and the ideals this country was founded upon and supposed to exude. He''s "extremely" fond of the Constitution and reducing big government, certainly.

Ron Paul is "the" man.

[navyretired2]

"Posted by Lib3rty at 10:53 AM : Dec 19, 2007"

You rock! No bones about it...great post!

[pepperp1]

The man is suffering from dementia along with is nutty supporters. He is unelectable.


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Posted by nexgen99 at 10:53 AM : Dec 19, 2007
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BALONEY, RUDY AND HUCK AND THE RABBLE ARE THE UNELECTABLES no group of people other than partisans, neo conservatives and cultist Christian will vote for either of these guys and guess what they are no longer the likely voters WE THE PEOPLE ARE..

[uniblogger]

Spoiler??? You just keep thinking he''s a "spoiler" and write him off. The fact is, the base of the Democratic Party and the base of the GOP party only make up 30% of Americans. That means 70% of Americans still have a functioning brain and will not be spoon-fed your drivel. Ironically, 70% of Americans are tired of this war. Ron Paul is gaining support exponentially and his so-called "radical" ideas make sense. Only people with no experience have to "hope" for change and those with years of experience have to sell their idea of change as something you can believe in. The Ron Paul r3VOLution IS CHANGE in the making. Our internet presence can respond to articles like this within minutes. We can raise money effortlessly and have turned our attention to emailing Congressmen and Senators to stop questionable legislation NOW. We will no longer be a silent majority, pushed out of government by big business, lobbyists and special interests. Collectively, WE ARE THE PEOPLE and we will take back our government. Dr. Paul just happens to be the humble recipient of our support. He is a wise man of integrity, vows to uphold the Constitution and has the record to back it up. This can go down, one of two ways... either Dr. Paul wins the GOP nomination and goes onto POTUS or he does not recieve the nomination, is forced to run on a third party ticket gathering even more support from independants and nudges out both DEM and GOP candidates for the general election.

[gunownerdan]

If you love big government, high taxes, and the destruction of our Constitutional rights, then Ron Paul is not your candidate.
Vote for any of the other "front runners".

[pepperp1]

"Ron Paul is an extremist who will not get the nomination.

Extremists have been proven to be unelectable: McGovern comes to mind among others.

Posted by donbl1 at 10:51 AM : Dec 19, 2007"

One man''''s extremist is another man''''s grass-roots champion.

I''''d agree he''''s extremist if he didn''''t 100% support the Constitution and the ideals this country was founded upon and supposed to exude. He''''s "extremely" fond of the Constitution and reducing big government, certainly.

Ron Paul is "the" man.


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Posted by NavyRetired2 at 10:57 AM : Dec 19, 2007
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Yes true, I for example believe Huckabee as a member of anti woman cult Christian faith who would subvert the criminal code with his fringe beliefs and views is an unacceptable extremist and I would never vote for him under any circumstance and would actively passionately work against that choice.

[sloshwinky]

I can''t believe what I just read. It amazes me how every other candidate reported on by the media has a shot as the Republican Nominee except Dr. Paul. This is the type of negative media Ron Paul has gotten all through this campaign. At least Glenn Beck on CNN gave him an hour to honestly state his views. That is alot more respectable than the cheap shots the Main Stream Media and others are doing to undermine this campaign. I hope anyone who reads this comment will GOOGLE RON PAUL and listen to what he is saying. Don''t start criticizing, just listen to this message. YOU WILL realize that this is exactly the direction this country needs to go. Others who agree with Ron Paul''s message include Lou Dobbs, Jim Cramer from Mad Money, Jack Cafferty from CNN, and even Glenn Beck agrees with alot of Ron Pauls message. They don''t publicly endorse him but they do agree. Find out about Ron Paul, study Ron Paul and VOTE RON PAUL.

[pepperp1]

Better Barack Obama than Hillary Clinton

Can you imagine if Hillary won

Any time she would want to communize another sector of society (after health care),
all the Clintonista brownshirts would be goose-stepping around
like politically-correct brain-dead zombies chanting:

"do it for the children"
"do it for the children"
"do it for the children" ,,,, ad nauseum

OBAMA 2008



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Posted by skykk at 11:01 AM : Dec 19, 2007



More ***, if the Dems go to the fringe and present a weak nominee with Obamas lack of expertise, talent and personal history only charm just like the Bush resume, the Dems will not regain the White House. If the Repugs put up Huck then a 3rd party will win that will be true change and Hope and it will be the correct one. It is the non fringe candidate that will win regardless of party.

[akston-2009]

Yep, landline polls of the 6% of Republicans still participating in the 2004 primaries, who were often not even given Paul as an option %u2013 show that these people didn''t select Paul. That''s the indicator that shows he''s trailing, eh?

A record $6 million in a single day is more of a footnote than an indication of support. I see.

For more on where Paul''s "ceiling" might be, and his chances of being a "spoiler" for neo-conservative candidates see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewey_Defeats_Truman

While I find CBS''s coverage of the Paul campaign pretty well balanced on the whole, I find this line of thinking rather poorly substantiated.

P.S. Paul isn''t the one to "break with Republican orthodoxy on a number of issues", it''s the neo-conservatives doing that.

[gunownerdan]

Dr. Ron Paul is the ONLY pro-peace and pro-liberty candidate running for president who will protect and defend the Constitution.

[akston-2009]

P.P.S. CBS, *please* investigate acquiring a message display program that can handle simple punctuation characters without giving us their Unicode character number instead.

[THE_PUMA]

No one talks about the religeous extremists that have highjacked the republican party. If you look at polls abortion and gay marraige are not at the top of america''s concerns, yet republican candidates have to pigeon hole themselves on these issues to appease the ultra (social) conservative base. It is time to take the party back and the country back.

[excoachken]

The only accurate poll available says that 10% of Americans think the moon is made of Swiss cheese, and they make up 100% of L. Ron Paul''s Church of Scatology cult.

There should be nothing sour or extreme about wanting to retore our constitution. Most Americans think we are a free nation while half of the Bill of Rights has been violated, Fed spending is out of control, and the value of the dollar is becoming worthless while our vets don''t get the treatment they need, but we give free treatment to illegals! If this government was such an advocate for freedom then why wont they restore our constitutional rights! Our government feeds the nation lies that we are helping other nations by spreading freedom while they revoke our freedoms right here at home. No wonder people see Ron Paul as an extremist, because it is an extreme thought to want our constitution back, how sad.

[random_radar]

It''s good to see that 4% of the people in this country still understand and value liberty. If no one cared about the constitution and natural rights, the future would be bleak fascism. Maybe those 4% can make America great again since they are motivated.

Ron Paul may not win, but he is a symbol of hope. Perhaps he is a forerunner of change in the future. Our nation is in decline, but it is possible that the flames of freedom may be rekindled by devoted adherents.

Like Winston Churchill said, "Never, never, never give up!"

[madest06]

I''ve yet to see a Romney bumper sticker but i see ron paul bumper stickers, signs and even t-shirts. the media is showing contempt for ron paul supporters even after the failed polls of 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006. shame on you MSM.

[nexgen99]

It''''s good to see that 4% of the people in this country still understand and value liberty. If no one cared about the constitution and natural rights, the future would be bleak fascism. Maybe those 4% can make America great again since they are motivated.

Ron Paul may not win, but he is a symbol of hope. Perhaps he is a forerunner of change in the future. Our nation is in decline, but it is possible that the flames of freedom may be rekindled by devoted adherents.

Like Winston Churchill said, "Never, never, never give up!"

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Winston Churchill was not a coward. It was others who thought like Ron Paul who refused to listen to Winston Churchill about the threat from Germany and that''s why America cannot afford Ron Paul.

[micma-2009]

Ron Paul is a great American.

[citizenusa-2009]

Why is it that the only candidate that will truly represent the interests of the American people a "dark horse"? If we, as a nation had ANY sense at all, we''d vote for a change. From everything I''ve read, Ron Paul represents just that; A break from the criminal element that has brought this country to it''s knees. I WILL vote for Ron Paul and pray that he gets the nod from the rest of you.

[nexgen99]

Ron Paul is a great American.

Posted by micma

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He would be an even greater American if he went into retirement.

[ms38654ob]

Ron Paul is a nut job, but he''s better than any of the other weenies running for president in the republican arena.

Go Ron!

[thelibrarian3929]

I have been a Democrat for most of my life. I believe that if we don''t elect Ron Paul next year, we are finished as a republic. The mainstream parties are corrupt. I thought electing the Democrats to Congress would restore some balance to government, but their gutless behavior has proven they are just as bad. Ron Paul is the seems to be the only person who cares about the intent of the founding fathers, What a radical idea!

[macusweil]

Congressman Ron Paul stands the best chance to win the presidency since his views make the most sense to the most voters. He''s not middle of the road, right wing or left wing or any of that nonsense.

Ron Paul has a clear message: Let''s hold our government accountable, stop the free spending habits of both parties and bring our troops home & out of harm''s way as quick as we possibly can.

Under sound leadership this country will be back on the course of freedom, liberty & prosperity for all out citizens. America will once again be the land of the free & home of the brave where the true patriots are those who question the government not those who blindly follow.

We can all get behind Dr. Paul and his plan for fiscal responsibility that will return the dollar to its rightful place among the global currencies. The US will move forward again as the greatest free nation on earth.

I''m voting for Congressman Ron Paul in the NYS Feb 5th GOP Primary.

[zenelectron]

Polls, polls, polls and the electability of Ron Paul.

While I suppose CBS is partial to its own polls, and this article reported CBS''s national poll numbers, Ron Paul is enjoying increased support in NH according to Fox''s latest NH poll, where he''s showing 8% among NH likely Republicans up from 4% just 3 weeks ago.

And in contrast to the articles comment that "I don''t think he''s anybody''s second choice," says Scala , that same poll shows that Ron Paul is second choice among 40% of McCain supporters, and 31% of Huckabee supporters.

Given the +-4% margin of error for the polls and the questionable accuracy of polls as they apply to Ron Paul supporters (who actually HOPE there will be blizzards on caucus and primary dates) there''s a REALLY good chance Ron Paul will be third or better in Iowa and NH and second or better in SC.

Take a look at Fox''s latest NH poll at:

see www(dot)foxnews(dot)com/projects/pdf/FOX_NH-2_DEC_RELEASE_WEB.pdf

Ron Paul will do much better than the MSM is reporting. Get used to it.

[bierman776]

Why is that Mike Huckabee gets all this press as a potential "contender" from day one, but even after Ron Paul breaks the fundraising record people are talking about him not having a chance???? This is ***-*** the media... vote Ron Paul

[radiob-2009]

Ron Paul is anti labour and has voted consistently against labour. No thanks.

[djberson]

I truly believe we need and must fight for a viable third party. That does not mean we should simply vote for Ron Paul for that reason alone, without proven merit. My point is simply this: it is wrong to call anyone who wants to legitimately participate in US politics a spoiler. That is his right, and it gives voters more choice.

[standlee5]

I think a Ron Paul presidency would be re-revolutionary. I can''t imagine multi-national corporations letting that happen. They''re who really decide who''ll be president of the United States.

[chumchingee]

Has anyone thought of the consequences of voting for Ron Paul and getting him elected as President?
What will happen to Social Security under his leadership?
What will change about Medicare?
How will he be hamstrung by an opposing Congress in doing what he wants to get accomplished?
I do not have answers to those questions but I think they need to be answered before I vote for him...

[frdm08]

The MSM is so predictable. No matter how hard the MSM tries to marginalize Ron Paul, his campaign keeps growing in supporters and financing.

The MSM can keep playing musical front runner with their antequated polls and Republicrat flavor of the week and the Revolution will still move forward. People are waking up all over the country.

Ron Paul''s message of truth and freedom is more powerful than the hit pieces by the MSM, and there''s 18.5 million dollars to prove it. Thank CBS for inspiring me to work even harder to have this great man elected to our nation''s highest office.

If you haven''t heard Ron Paul speak, Google him, Youtube him, find out the truth for yourself and then join in the fun! Freedom is popular!

[ramos937]

To the great relief of us Democrats, Paul will not win the nomination. But, this country owes him a huge debt. He has made important issues - withdrawal from Iraq, non intervention in other counties affairs, closing of most US bases overseas, understanding our enemies, etc. very important to all of the candidates both Democratic and Republican. They are not stupid and by now must have taken notice of Paul''s success.

[wardoglrs]

There is no other runner that can show and tell the truth like President Paul. Wake up people.

NAFTA Superhighway Giuliani as a key player.

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/grassi/070504 .


Who would the world elect
http://www.whowouldtheworldelect.com/ .

Important facts.
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against the Iraq war.
Ron Paul''s record: