Candidates Offer Views On Infidelity

Katie Couric Asks Whether They Can Understand Voters Who Don't Feel Comfortable Supporting A Candidate Who Cheated

(CBS)  For the series “Primary Questions: Character, Leadership & The Candidates,” CBS News anchor Katie Couric asked the 10 leading presidential candidates 10 questions designed to go beyond politics and show what really makes them tick.

For the fifth part of the special series "Primary Questions," Couric asked the candidates: “Harry Truman said, 'A man not honorable in his marital relations, is not usually honorable in any other.' Some voters don't feel comfortable supporting a candidate who's not remained faithful to his or her spouse. Can you understand their position?"

In a new CBS News / New York Times poll, two out of three registered voters said they'd vote for a candidate even if he or she had been unfaithful in marriage, as long as they agreed on most issues. One out of three said they would not.

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Check out the complete poll results.

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Also, check out the candidates' full responses to the previous questions in our "Primary Questions" video library.

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JOE BIDEN

Couric: Harry Truman said, "A man not honorable in his marital relations, is not usually honorable in any other." Some voters don't feel comfortable supporting a candidate who's not remained faithful to his or her spouse. Can you understand their position?

Biden: Look, this is really dicey territory. Let me say it this way. I think that one's character, one's honesty, one's integrity, is a habit of the mind. I don't think people can be dishonest in one aspect of their life, and compartmentalize it and be viewed as being honest in other parts of life.

If the tendency is to cut a corner; if the tendency is not to tell the truth; the probability is, that in a moment of crisis, where that person's interests are at stake, they're likely revert to the bad tendencies. If the habit of the heart and the habit of the mind is, that whether you're dealing with promising the parking attendant you're gonna be back in 20 minutes. Or you're telling your wife something, or you are going to the nation and making a commitment.

There is -- habits are habits. And they all relate to, seems to me, how an individual values what they say as being important and relevant. Everybody makes mistakes. I don't have a -- you know, I don't pass harsh judgments on people who make -- my dad used to say, very good people do very bad things sometimes. But it's more of whether it's a pattern or a mistake.

And I think that it's awfully hard to be -- have a pattern of dishonesty in relationships, married or otherwise, and be reliable in difficult circumstances where other people are depending on the veracity of what you say.

Couric: Should marital infidelity be part of the equation, in your view, when a voter is evaluating a candidate?

Biden: I think that's for every voter to decide. Voters make -- as they should -- make decisions relative to the leaders based on their needs. The need of the voter. And if you have someone who is, you need someone to be a great general to win a battle and he is a no-good guy, you'd never wanna show up for dinner. You might very well say, I'd vote for that guy to be the general. I'd vote that person or that woman to be the -- you know, the governor, or whatever.

I think people make very rational decisions based upon whether or not the character flaw in the individual they're looking at relates to something that affects their lives or the life of their country. And for some people, the overwhelming requirement, overwhelming characteristic they want is honesty. And that would be a difficult thing for ... the voter who has that as the highest priority, to vote for someone like that.

But it's an interesting thing. I remember asking ... one of the people who's ... a smart guy, is this guy Frank Luntz, who does these groups. And I remember hearing him speak and saying that the polling data shows that the characteristic -- he asked the question generically.

What characteristic do you think the American people most look for in their ... in their president? And I immediately said, honesty, integrity. In my mind. And he said, no, no. Then he asked the audience. And they said -- the simple most important thing they're looking for is resilience. Someone who can take a "hit" and get back up and move on. That's an interesting phen -- phenomena.

I've been in public life most of my adult life, and I wouldn't have said that. But ya think about it. It's probably one of those characteristics that gives people confidence that you can lead the country through what they know are gonna be ups and downs. But, so, that's a long answer to your short question.

Couric: Yeah. That's interesting.

Biden: I think that, for some people, if honesty, if the -- if absolute integrity of the character of a person you're looking for to be president is the criteria for you, then I think it probably matters a lot. If it is determining who can best drive this train right now at this moment, it may or may not be.


JOHN MCCAIN

Couric: Harry Truman once said, "A man not honorable in his marital relations is not usually honorable in any other." Many people feel they don't feel comfortable supporting someone who's not remained faithful to his or her spouse. Should they feel that way? Or can you understand their feeling that way?

McCain: You know ... that's an area that I never get into. Because I think that people make judgments, and you can judge other people. I'm not very good at that. And so, I think it's up to each person's personal view of the individual, and ... everybody has a different view.

I say that because you and I know that there have been some leaders in American history -- latest information about Franklin Delano Roosevelt. I happen to still think that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was an important president at a time in our history when we needed some courage. And so ... that's just frankly, a judgment that I leave to others.


BILL RICHARDSON

Couric: Harry Truman said, quote, "A man not honorable in his marital relations is not usually honorable in any other." Many people say they don't feel comfortable supporting someone who's not remained faithful to their spouse. Why should they?

Richardson: Well, I think this is ... if you're -- if you're not faithful to your wife, you're not faithful to the country, to your ideals. You're not faithful to the spirit in which Americans trust their political leaders. And they expect them to ... have a sense of honor.

Nobody's perfect. I've been married to Barbara for 35 years. We've had our differences, our difficulties, but we've stayed together. But I think being faithful is ... an essential component of any relationship. It's whether a voter can trust you to ... be thinking about the common good as opposed to personal ambition or anything else.

Couric: Do you think infidelity is reason enough not to vote for someone?

Richardson: I don't think so. I think that, you know, infidelity is ... a serious problem in any marriage. But, you know, everybody sins. And it's whether you're forgiven, whether you forgive yourself, whether you have faith in God. You know, perfection ... is something that politicians, they should not stand themselves for perfection. Nobody's perfect.


BARACK OBAMA

Couric: Harry Truman said, quote, "A man not honorable in his marital relations is not usually honorable in any other." Many people say they don't feel comfortable supporting someone who's not remained faithful to their spouse. Why should they?

Obama: Why should they not --

Couric: Support someone who isn't faithful. In other words, people feel uncomfortable. Is that appropriate? Or, you know, how do you feel about that?

Obama: Well, I ... you know, I do think that public morality ... and private morality are not sum -- you know, or not equivalent. You know, we -- some of our greatest presidents haven't always been terrific husbands. And some who have been wonderful husbands have been rotten presidents.

So, you know, I think that other countries have typically taken a little more casual on approach when it comes to the personal lives ... of elected officials. And I think that there has to be some space for privacy. I will say this.

I do think that I'm very proud of the relationship I've got with Michelle, and the work and the value that I've put into it. And I hope it does say something about my character, the strength of my marriage. But, you know ... if I was -- had a wonderful marriage but didn't have good ideas in terms of providing health care for every American or repairing the damage that's been done to our foreign policy by George Bush, then my marriage alone shouldn't qualify me ... for being president.

Couric: Should infidelity qualify someone, or should infidel ...

Obama: Disqualify.

Couric: ... infidelity disqualify someone?

Obama: You know ... I'm very cautious about applying strict moral rules to ... or a blanket universal rule to ... people. Because, you know, I mean, there are some people who might say that the fact that, you know, I indulged in drugs when I was young, disqualifies me. I mean, there are a lot of ways that you can apply that kind of morality. What I'm always hopeful of is that people are judge our public servants based on their passion, their commitment, their public integrity, how they operate with that public trust. And, you know, if we start getting too sanctimonious about some of these issues then there aren't going to be that many people who are able or willing to serve.


HILLARY CLINTON

Couric: Harry Truman once said, "A man not honorable in his marital relations is not usually honorable in any other." Some voters say they don't feel comfortable supporting someone who's not remained faithful to his or her spouse. Can you understand or appreciate their point of view?

Clinton: Well, I can certainly understand why some people would feel that way, and ... that is their perfect right to do so. But I think ... would be a tough standard for most of American history to be able to meet, when we look at people who have made a big difference in our country.

I think there's more to someone's honor and integrity, and to their public service. I think sometimes we confuse the private and the public in ways that are not necessarily useful. So, of course, it's a deeply personal matter that I take personally. But I think on the public stage, there are a number of people who have represented our country, led our country, accomplished great achievements on behalf of our country who might have some challenges in their personal life, but have made a great contribution.

[samthetvcat]

Maybe I got distracted because I feel like this is totally irrelevant to the election, but my sense is that Richardson and Edwards have never cheated on their wives. Biden seems like he has. We know Giuliani has cheated and Hillary''s been cheated on. The rest are kind of cloudy . . .

It does make me respect Richardson and Edwards more, but not sure it''s going to sway my vote - just part of the mix to consider I guess . . .

[tomdawg6]

Ron Paul has been faithfully married to the same woman for 50 years...but vote for him because of his constitutional government first and foremost.
But yes, faithfulness in one area does carry over to the others.

[pepperp1]

I dont want to know of their sins that are not crimes under the criminal code, Candidates keep that to your selves please. And if unfortunately based on a tabloid punditry class that cant discuss issues facing our country walling in this stuff and I hear it, its just one more fact about the person that I will consider.

The distinction would be things like Pols that solicit *** from under age Congressional Pages, frequenting Prostitutes where prostitution is illegal, soliciting *** in airport bathrooms, making a false claim of theft against a prostitute who you don%u2019t want to pay, engaging the public courts to restrain the Girlfriend you moved into the family home with the wife, the fraud of using City resources on the tax payers dime to walk the dog or drive the other women, and my personal favorite offering an undercover cop 20 bucks for a blower in a little leagued park these things I want to know and would absolutely effect my vote.

[clestes-2009]

What a perfectly stupid question to ask?? What does expect to hear, except that is wrong??

Far better would be to ask about their environmental policies. That has NOT YET been covered by anyone.

[weffiewonj]

Ms. Couric places President Eisenhower in the same category as JFK as a confirmed adulterer, and does so without reservation.
If her evidential standard on this matter also permeated the rest of CBS News, the broadcast would be considerably more juicy, albeit less tethered to fact. Candidate Edwards would not be pleased.

[feelfree1]

Ms. Couric is luckey that Romney, Ghouliani, and most other Republicans are deeply repressed homosexuals, or she might have been bent over on the spot.

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[samthetvcat]

Oh and I missed Huckabee - definitely faithful. Mitt also a strong, strong chance he''s been faithful.

I guess that''s about 50% of the candidates . . . sounds about normal. I do admire that in people, but yeah I totally don''t hold it against anybody for having had marital difficulties or family troubles for that matter.

It''s interesting to read about their lives - like everybody''s had their share of setbacks. Biden, Edwards, Thompson have all lost children to car crashes. Edwards, Obama, Giuliani, Thompson, McCain have all been touched by cancer. Huckabee, Richardson and Billary have Obesity issues. Dodd, Romney, Clinton have legacy issues. Obama, Richardson have biracial identities . . . all part of the picture I guess . . .

[feelfree1]

Is Republican sponsored pedophillia part of Chevron''s "Human Energy" campaign?

[samthetvcat]

PS By biracial identity being a ''setback'' I don''t know if it caused identity issues with Richardson, but Obama said that was at the root of his struggle for identity and fitting in that made him turn to drugs. I meant it like that. Maybe Richardson didn''t struggle with that, although Halle and Mariah both have mentioned their struggles too so I thought maybe that was common (?)

[jsilver2th]

Is this what Dan Rather calls the dumbing-down of the news?

[ibzjem]

Being unfaithful is NOT a mistake. A mistake is leaving the sugar out of the cookie batter when baking. Adultery is WRONG! Most people don''t want to be told what they think and feel and do is sometimes WRONG! It is in fact, a SIN, oh my... the "s" word. Now I don''t think that makes one a bad person all around, but don''t hide behind the "mistake" cloud.

And you know it''s hard to determine if a candidate is telling the truth about their honesty and integrity. I''ve heard this before and I''ll say it here: rely on the candidates'' actions (records), not whether they make you feel good from an interview or commercial.

[denn034]

If their wife can''t trust them, then, how can we? Unquestionably, Romney has the best record where loyalty to his wife is concerned. It boils down to trust.

[barbaraf4]

The fact of the matter is that probably I am the only monogamous person in the world. At least, I can only vouch for myself.

I suspect all those high powered politicians, CEOs and CFOs are not faithful to their wives or significant others. It is simply part of the entitlement of the good old boys club. I would rather have an adulterer tell me truth (that he is an adulterer) than to tell me he didn''t inhale.

[hungry1968]

First of all - this is why Katie Couric''s newscast is consistently rated dead last usually by double digit percentage points. Stupid, irrelevant stories like this.

Secondly, most of the founding fathers were philanderers, and several had impregnated their slaves who forced to have sexual relations with them.

Third, how did Harry Truman become the barometer of morality in this country?

Fourth, if someone is going to cast a vote based on whether or not somebody strayed at one time in their life, they''re probably going to narrow the field down to about 3 candidates, none of which will make a good president.

[nativewoman]

I could not possibly care less about the candidates'' possible infidelities nor about their religions nor any responses they might make to any question(s) leading up to the election.

They will do and/or say anything they think will garner them votes.

Truth and trustworthiness have absolutely nothing to do with campaigns.

[samthetvcat]

Well not everybody subscribes to that faith system.

You know who''s the big winner with respect to fidelity and voters is Hillary because she''s a ''cheatee'' (person who''s been cheated on). She seems to draw a tremendous amount of support from other women scorned who relate to the humiliation and disappointment of experiencing such a betrayal of trust. For her to win is like the ultimate vengeance and redemption - a phoenix rising from the ashes of shame to ultimate power!

A second substantial portion of Hillary''s base seem to be wives who see themselves as the power behind their man thus equate being a first wife to being President. Hence they understand or stay with a husband who''s cheated.

The third part of Hillary''s base seem to be women don''t feel like they''ve been taken seriously by men, and thus aren''t surprised she got cheated on or that she is so disliked because it''s not about Hillary it says more about everybody else. There is some truth to this though . . .

In sum, maybe whether a candidate has been loyal to their spouse may not be very relevant, but whether a candidate is a woman that''s been cheated on I think is VERY much so!

[samthetvcat]

PS Please ignore that first line of the post below :)

[sgtrds]

Who cares if they sleep around? that''s strictly between them and their spouse and is no one else''s business. Bill Clinton was getting some on the side and he was still the best president since FDR (who also got some on the side). Then again Bush is sleeping with Condi and he stinks as president, so it proves that it just doesn''t make a difference one way or another.

[alixixi]

what a stupid question sam said it perfectly down below

[cbs_oliver]

The trouble with Katie Couric''s questions is that they don''t provide much information on the differences that matter in the policies of the candidates.

It is important to me whether candidates want to see America as the head of an empire.

It is important to me whether candidates favor corporate financial aid/incentives and worker competition or worker financial aid/incentives and corporate competition or whatever.

Are they social darwinists?

Who are they winking at?

[speakinup]

Candidates Offer Views On Infidelity

When I first saw this - I came here with intrepidation. At first I thought, "OH NO! PLEASE DON''T TELL ME BILL HAS PUT MONICA ON U-TUBE!!!"

But, then I relized it wasn''t him running, but his (wife?). Kinda seems like the same thing don''t it.

[random_radar]

Harry Truman said, "A man not honorable in his marital relations, is not usually honorable in any other."

If a candidate says "I have been faithful to my spouse for my entire marriage, you can trust me," I would put some stock in that.

If a candidate says "I have cheated on my spouse, but you can trust me," I cannot understand the idiot that would believe that.

No, wait, actually I do get it--they are telling me that they are unfaithful to their spouses too!

[samthetvcat]

Actually you know what, if much of Hillary''s support is because she''s a woman who got cheated on, maybe that''s why you don''t actually hear her supporters ever singing her praises - it''s not like they actually LIKE her per se. They identify with parts of her life.

I''m not sure if there''d be drawbacks to taking this different route, but maybe there''s room for candidates to chip into Hillary''s votes by talking more about the women in their lives. Like by talking about how much of a support system Elizabeth and Michelle are to them and how they have made them into the men they are today, maybe that would make women feel like they''re being recognized for their contributions in a way questioning Hillary''s ''experience'' or likeability would not.

The drawback might be with guys who think this is too ''soft'' or ''wimpy'' (?)

[fuddyjak]

I am appalled at the question given today by Katie Couric....I am disappointed that she stooped this low and it is plain and obvious to everyone that CBS is bias against Clinton and obviously for Obama!! Such reporting is unprofessional and so obvious to the listeners....we will not be watching the evening bias news any longer...and...guess who they show when leading up to tonights question...50 guesses...no class CBS...this whole past issue about Bill Clinton is old, old old!!!

[brynababy]

That is the stupidest, most irrelevant question imaginalble. But then Katie Couric is not know for her insightful intellect nor her knowledge and familiarity with history- present or past. You can fix her hair any way you like, you can stick her on 60 Minutes, you can try to deepen her voice, you can try to legitimize her as a "journalist"- but it just won''t wash. She''s terrible!! And you lost us loyal listeners when we heard her first days on the job, then checked back periodically. She''s a disgrace to CBS! And she certainly adds nothing to the campaign coverage.

Bryna and Joe Weiss

[dansmallidge]

I think it is ridiculous that Ron Paul is not included in this segment. Once again it shows the media bias against Ron Paul. The media wants to silence Ron Paul''s message of freedom, because they know that if America hears his message they will believe in Ron Paul as I do. Ron Paul believes in family values. Ron Paul is against the war in Iraq. Ron Paul is against big government and big government spending. Ron Paul wants to get rid of the IRS and lower taxes, allowing the consumer greater purchasing power. Ron Paul wants to fix our economy by getting rid of the Federal Reserve, whose wreckless money printing has lead to inflation and the devaluation of the US dollar. VOTE RON PAUL!

[cboz29]

I am unaware of the other questions that will be asked during this interview for president, but I would like to hear this question asked, "What do you think of liars and have you ever lied?" or "What do you think of people who cant keep promises and have you ever broken a promise?" We all know that they have done these, even those who are open about their religious beliefs. But it would be nice to know that even though they are trying to win our hearts for election, that even they can admit that they are promise breakers and liars.

[rmed2]

I am not the most politically active person in the world but I am trying to learn about each candidate as much as possible. While I do not find a persons ability to stay faithful a sign of their leadership, I did find the candidates'' answers interesting. To me, the ones who were able to say that honestly this is unimportant, or at least not a good indicator of the capabilities of a president, were being much more honest. To me those who say how untrustworthy a person who cheats is need to get off of their moral high horse. That is wonderful that they have such a stellar marriage and are ridiculously happy with their life, but it says more about them that they can''t be compassionate toward those who are not as lucky. I am young and unmarried so perhaps I just don''t understand but in my mind I would rather have a leader who worries about the political views of a person rather than passes judgment on the decisions in their personal life.

[sgtrds]

I am young and unmarried so perhaps I just don''''t understand but in my mind I would rather have a leader who worries about the political views of a person rather than passes judgment on the decisions in their personal life.

Posted by rmed2 at 07:05 PM : Dec 19, 2007

Bravo! Well said!

[aquarius7251]

I just LOVE the way CBS decides who the top 10 candidates are. CBS does not have the common decency to be fair and balanced and air the views of ALL the candidates.

The polls are nothing short of meaningless because they are MADE UP by the controlled news media.

How about asking Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich the 10 "Tough Questions" and see how much more honest their answers are.

Seems to me that CBS are on a mission to HIDE these two candidates completely. Wonder why?

[samthetvcat]

pt 3 of my pro-other candidate playbook

Subset of Hillary''s base are the Bubba fans. Indicators include rushing to his defense when people bring up his infidelities. Must identify whether the Bubba subset belongs to group 1,2,or 3 as listed below - 2 and 3 may be open to other candidates so long as the message is positive and makes women feel recognized; pure 1''s can be confused with the 2/3 Bubba off-shoot because of the rage - must identify whether ppl think you''re demeaning Hillary or Bill . . . category 1''s who think Hillary is being demeaned are write offs.

[samsmomatl]

I have to say, I was absolutely amazed at Mitt Romney%u2019s response to the question about the American people voting for a candidate who has had an affair. His response, %u201CI think people should be able to do what they want to do.%u2026.%u201D Excuse me? Is this the same man who is telling me I cannot marry the one I love because we%u2019re both of the same ***? This just shows how Mr. Romney does not thoroughly think through responses before answering. Obviously he is not able to think on his feet.

[rowdytexan2]

Interesting answers...

But not much to offer there in real information. The answers were pretty expected...people get married and divorced for all kinds of reasons. And mostly, people cheat on their marriage because they want to, and then try to put the other spouse down to justify why they do.

The ones that I have no sympathy for are those that don''t honor someone elses marriage, and pursue the spouse anyway. It''s the highest level of selfishness.

[donbl1]

As long as they do not wag their finger at us and say "I did not have s3x with that woman". That is disrespectful to his fellow Americans and he is not forgiven.

[xlib]

Infidelity, mutual consenting *** between adults is one thing. However, I only know of one president who was accused of rape. The women who accused this president were vilified, drug through the mud and basically had thier lives turned up-side-down. Now, I wonder what hills take is on that subject? Anyone remember the lengths she went to control roving willy.

[xlib]

med2-Sorry there fella but the president of the US and his/her personal life is our business and does matter. While we all know that a great number of our presidents had mistresses and played around (jfk). For the most part they were discreet. The former president you are obviously talking about was anything but discreet.
I just love the way the left always leaps to bubba''s defense. Love it.
As for poltical views, med2, don''t like his. How''s that?

[sgtrds]

For the most part they were discreet. The former president you are obviously talking about was anything but discreet.

Posted by Xlib at 07:57 PM : Dec 19, 2007

So your main objection to Clinton is that he wasn''t as good at covering up his affairs as say Bush or FDR or JFK were at covering up theirs? Wow, talk about flexible morality!

[realpatriot1]

Xlib,

I won''t defend Clinton''s infidelity but I will respond to your holier-than-thou pile of ***.

Clinton was a creep who preyed on women but he didn''t rape anyone. What he did do was a carbon copy of the obnoxious behavior of Clarence Thomas.

Before Republicans ever became outraged by the behavior of Clinton they were defending the same behavior from Thomas. Clinton was out of office in 8 years;we''re stuck with Thomas until he dies.

If there''s any honor to your outrage you''ll apply it equally.

[realpatriot1]

Sarge,

There''s another distinction you''re missing-Clinton bopped an unpaid intern while Bush,Sr. put his hoochie in a no-show job at the State Department for
4 years.

We taxpayers got to pay the hooker for Daddy Bush.

[jeff-fla]

This is a silly question. Who cares. I''m more worried about high fuel bills, inflation, kids dieing overseas, people going hungry, and the health and education of Americans. We seem to worry to much about the personal lives of others. We should be worried about not electing another megalomaniac.

[stevex47]

Candidates Offer Views On Infidelity...

Giuliani response: "Yes, Please!"

[jumpyg1258]

Once again the bias in the old media has come out since there is no mention of Ron Paul. Ron is still in his first marriage and recently celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary. Typical that the old media will not talk to the candidate who has been most faithful about marriage.

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by Xlib at 07:54 PM : Dec 19, 2007

Oh get off it! All those women that had affairs with Bill knew he was married, knew what they were doing, consented to what they were doing, and if they had no intention of doing it, then why were they there!!!

It takes two to make an affair! And these women were scumbags! If you''re going to wave your **** around, and go to some man''s hotel room or office after it...don''t cry foul when the deal is done. These were consenting adults.

Monica knew what she was doing and didn''t have the sense God gave a birdbrain than to go yack about it to some other woman scumbag that most likely got paid very well to rat them out.

I''m sick of hearing you people being so pious about Bill lying about it, like he''s the ONLY male that ever did.

You know how it is...boys will be boys...wink wink smirk!

Get a life!

[rmed2]

Posted by Xlib at 07:57 PM : Dec 19, 2007
The former president you are obviously talking about was anything but discreet.
I just love the way the left always leaps to bubba''''s defense. Love it.


I have to say I am impressed. From the few sentences I wrote you were able to tell me more about myself than even I knew. I did not realize I was talking about anyone in particular, or rushing to defend someone. Nor, did I realize that I was on the left at all. Where I thought I was just making an observation that the president, from whichever party, should be someone who can admit that the reality is people who make mistakes in their personal lives can still be strong leaders politically, I apparently meant that I condone affairs and support those who have them. Who knew! Thank you for helping me to clarify.

[jaliberty]

I guess Ron Paul was not given the opportunity to answer the question because he is not one of the so-called top tier candidates. Since Katie Couric and The CBS Evening "News" are a distant third in the network news ratings, I''ll have to ignore her and turn to ABC or NBC.

[element51]

jef fla...I could not agree with you more. These are the things I am concerned about, not someones personal life. It is no business of mine or anybody elses who or what someone sleeps with. As long as no crime has been committed I don''t care. It has long been known that type A men in powerful places have strong sexual urges and that most of them will act on those urges. Doesn''t necessiarly make them bad.

Rowdy Texan...I don''t think I have read one of your posts yet that I don''t agree with. You and I think so much alike that it''s almost scary. You seem to be the kind of person that I would like to sit down and have a beer with. Keep it up!

[mattdale1]

I was hoping to see Ron Paul, as he is the most successful candidate in garnering real-world, active grassroots support. Unfortunately, CBS decided to air only the top-down, boring candidates that it chose to show.

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by Element51 at 09:45 PM : Dec 19, 2007

^5, Shiner Bock, best brew in Texas!

[mattdale1]

I was hoping to see Ron Paul, as he is the most successful candidate in garnering real-world, active grassroots support. Unfortunately, CBS decided to air only the top-down, boring candidates that it chose to show.