Dec. 16, 2007

Iowa: Make-Or-Break For Thompson

Trailing The Front-Runners, Both Thompson, Edwards Believe Their Message Will Carry In State

  • Play CBS Video Video Thompson Steps Up Campaign

    He may have had a slow start, but former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) is intensifying his presidential nomination campaign. He speaks with Bob Schieffer about his goals for the primary elections.

  • "We need to do well in Iowa, there’s no question about that," former Sen. Fred Thompson said, "but others do, too."  (CBS)



(CBS)  Trailing behind the Republican front-runners, former Sen. Fred Thompson said he was hitting the Iowa highways this week and will crisscross the state non-stop until caucus day in an effort to speak the truth of the leading Republican candidates' records.

Appearing on CBS' Face The Nation, Thompson said he would work to educate Iowa primary voters about inconsistencies in the records of former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and former Arkansas Governor Michael Huckabee.

Of Huckabee, Thompson said, “Liberal is the only word that comes to mind, when he was governor.

"Cato Institute rated him one of the worst governors in terms of taxes and tax increases," Thompson said. "He wanted to lift the embargo on Castro. Now he wants to close Guantanamo because he thinks it will curry some favor with other nations. It's basically a pretty social liberal policy that he has followed for several years, and hasn't made any bones about it up until recently.

"Now I understand that he's got a tough immigration ad going on, but it's not consistent with his record."

On the question of immigration, Thompson felt being tough on illegal immigrants was the only way to be fair to those who had not entered the country outside normal channels.

"You don't say that once you make it in and once you violate the law, you throw up your hands and say, there's nothing we can do about it so we've got to give you full citizenship, or on the path to citizenship, and set you ahead of all the people who have waited for years and years to play by the rules and to become a part of America."

He said that, over time, stricter enforcement of border security, employment requirements, and clamping down on "sanctuary cities," "there will be attrition over a period of time.

"If they know they can't go back and forth across the border, if they know that they're not going to be working here indefinitely, if they know they're not going to be protected from the law essentially in these cities, that they'll go back on their own accord - obviously, not all of them, and not overnight. But it will move in the right direction."

He also labeled Romney’s record as inconsistent.

“Mitt has taken different positions at different times before different audiences at different times in his life and career," Thompson said. "I'm not sure how you would ever determine how Mitt would govern in the future if you looked at his past, in comparison to what he's saying today.

"I've been a strong, consistent, common-sense conservative ever since I first set foot on the national scene. With me, you know what you get. And I am who I am. And it's who I've always been.”

He admitted that his performance in Iowa is make-or-break for his campaign, but said that was the case with all candidates, even those with higher poll numbers.

"We need to do well in Iowa, there’s no question about that, but others do, too," he told Bob Schieffer.

While Thompson has gotten off to a slow start since announcing his candidacy, he said Iowa is "tailor-made" for his campaign.

"When I'm out on the trail in Iowa, it kind of reminds me of Tennessee. And I'd never run for office before and started way behind and wound up way ahead - you know, just kind of retail politics. And that's what Iowa is conducive to."

Thompson said he would be challenging certain assumptions about Washington's power: the power of the federal government to tax people unreasonably, to spend money it doesn't have, or the power of courts to set social policy.

"It seems like the name of the game is to stick with your game plan, do what you set out to do with your message. Don't try to change your message. Don't try to be something that you're not. And on Election Day in Iowa, the pundits are turning out to be wrong about as often as they turn out to be right."

"Well, that's not the case only in Iowa," Schieffer said.

"I was trying to be kind there," Thompson said.


"The Sleeper"

John Edwards failed to land a key endorsement in the Iowa caucuses, when the Des Moines Register editorial board backed Hillary Clinton - this almost four years after the paper endorsed Edwards in the last Democratic primary.

But the former senator from North Carolina said he had a major disagreement with the paper over dealing with corporate power.

"I think their view was, you work with them, you engage with them," Edwards said to Schieffer. "I think some of the huge corporate power and interests that exist in Washington, you have to take them on and be willing to fight them, if you actually want to bring about change in this country."

In fact, he dismissed the editorial's description of his "harsh, anti-corporate rhetoric" which the paper said "would make it difficult to work with the business community to forge change."

"We just had a fundamental disagreement about that," he said.

On working with the business community to forge change, he said, "If that were effective, we'd already have change.

"I just think the balance is completely out of whack. And I think if we don't have a Teddy Roosevelt kind of president or a Harry Truman kind of president who is ready to take those entrenched, well-financed interests on, it's going to be impossible to bring about change."

The Register non-endorsement comes the same week Edwards is featured on the cover of Newsweek, labeled "The Sleeper." The article describes how, due to arcane caucus rules, Edwards's campaign momentum in Iowa's smaller counties may carry him to victory, despite the stronger showing of Clinton and Barack Obama in the state's larger cities.

"I think what [Iowa voters] are looking for, Bob, is they just want to be treated fairly. They don't want to feel like their government and the way the government functions is being so distorted against their interests. They want a president of the United States and a candidate who will take these interests on to overcome these obstacles."

Edwards did back Obama against barbed criticisms leveled at the Illinois Senator by former President Bill Clinton, who suggested voters would not take a chance on a candidate with little experience on the national stage.

"I think that kind of criticism, just based on a paper resume record, is not legitimate," Edward said. "I think what you need to know is whether he's got the toughness, whether he's got the resilience, whether he's actually prepared, as you picture him in your head or any other candidate, me included - whether they have the command to be commander in chief and the leader of the free world.

"I think that's the test that has to be applied to all of us."

He did note philosophical differences between himself and both Obama and Clinton, in how, in his view, they would work within the current Washington system. "[Clinton] basically says the system in Washington works fine. She defends it. 'We can sort of maneuver our way through this system through the entrenched interests and the lobbyists and so forth and accomplish what needs to be accomplished.'

"I think that if those things worked, we'd have universal health care. We would have a different energy policy. We'd have a different tax policy. We'd have a different trade policy."

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by oscarez December 17, 2007 12:34 PM EST
So RowdyTexan2 how do you feel about Mexicans, are they all illegal Mexicans? Because not all Mexicans are illegal Mexicans, not all tort lawyers are big time money grubbers. Don''t be painting all tort lawyers with the same brush. Only the ones you know.
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by jerr11 December 17, 2007 4:45 AM EST
Someone better tell Jeri grandpa''s coming home!


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by jerr11 December 17, 2007 4:02 AM EST
Fred''s OK.

He''ll just go back to cradle robbing after all this is all over.

Right Jeri!

LOL

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by mediapreachr December 17, 2007 3:47 AM EST
I wonder if his assistants are breaking in the middle of the interview because was time for this guy''s nap.
Does anyone have any older relatives-the type that wakes up at 6.00 am but goes to bed at 8.00 pm?
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by rowdytexan2 December 17, 2007 3:00 AM EST
Sorry, Freddy, you didn''t come out and demand the kind of change this country needs.

That change is to back away from your party''s leadership in the White House. Not one word have you spoken in response to the outcry of the people about the lies, cheating, and stealing by the Bush Administration.

I hope and pray that people aren''t fooled by the ambulance chaser Edwards. I''ve worked for tort lawyers, big time money grubbers. Once they take your case, they drive the case and you don''t have much say. They are the sole reason that tort reform is desperately needed.
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by heartlight3 December 17, 2007 2:27 AM EST
I have yet to hear the Republican candidates say anything substantive about any of the issues that matter to regular people. They keep talking about their religion, which is nobody''s business but theirs. And they talk about who is the most conservative, which I don''t know who cares about that. Not me. I want to know about how they are going to get health care and good education for everyone, and how they are going to rebuild the infrastructure or have enough money to run the country if they give money to corporations and eliminate taxes for everyone except the people with lower incomes. Someone has to pay for their wars, their salaries and their government contractors. Who''s going to do it if none of the people who have the money pay taxes?
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by mrmazerati December 17, 2007 1:36 AM EST
Today my alphabet soup magically formed the letters, "John Edwards". Call me crazy, but I really think he''s going to be the big upset in Iowa for Dems. I think there''s a toss-up ball and he''s going to pick it off, right out of Hill''s and Obama''s hands. Just a hunch.
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by tylenol6 December 17, 2007 1:06 AM EST
I hate to tell you people, but Clinton, Obama, Edwards,
McCain, Guiliani,Thompson and Biden are all CFR members.
Being a CFR member is a world globalist membership. It
is not a good group of people. They are bad!!!!! Do your
research people........
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by merlgrey December 16, 2007 11:54 PM EST
jn122736 - did you know that dr paul has never voted for an unbalanced budget, has never voted to raise congressional pay, does not participate in the congressional pension program, and returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year? did you know he would not accept (milk) medicare (govnmt dollars, health welfare) as a doctor, and instead would offer his services for less or for free?

why dont you read up on him. you might like what you find out. start here and keep searching:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about/
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by micma-2009 December 16, 2007 11:52 PM EST


This guys was a career lobbyist. He''s just another multi-national corporation masquerading as a human being.


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by jn122736 December 16, 2007 10:50 PM EST
Don''''t feel sorry for Fred... his "noncampaign" campaign will put more money in his pockets than any other "acting gig", Hoolywood or Washington, he has ever done.

And yes, he was in it for the money, not the office.

Regards,

Posted by Nancy_Naive at 05:34 PM : Dec 16, 2007
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That''s just what I was thinking about Ron Paul.
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by bgodley December 16, 2007 9:53 PM EST
Well, I certainly enjoyed some of Fred''s demeanor. I think he truly sparkled at the last debate taking a stand on how he was to respond to questions. If I were him I would have made a stand in South Carolina. He was polling there fairly well and it is closer to his southern roots.

I think after the dust settles it will come down to Paul and Huckabee. Guiliani is tanking and we actually don''t hear as much from his corner. I think the Paul supporters might have spooked him calling him out on his ethics (which are proving to be pretty shabby). Romney is self destructing under Huck''s pressure. He is getting cheap and he better watch out or McCain or Paul will take his New Hampshire lead.

McCain seems to be getting some color again with recent endorsments but he has no momentum in Iowa or South Carolina. He won New Hampshire before but still lost the nod.
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by myidoncbs December 16, 2007 8:24 PM EST
"He admitted that his performance in Iowa is make-or-break for his campaign"

I''d say the odds are in favor of "break"!
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by thisandthat1 December 16, 2007 8:04 PM EST
Fred .... stay home and watch it all on TV with the rest of us. You''ll be better off in the end.
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by cfin5 December 16, 2007 7:57 PM EST
If Fred throws in the towel, I hope he hands his baton to Ron Paul. I like Fred a lot, but Ron''s voting record was perfect and his message about why things are in a mess went to the root of the problem more so. I refrained from riding him cause I heard him on Paul Harvey and I like that program. His explanation about his CFR membership was satisfactory for me,.......but those are public "bummer" points hard to erase.
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by ontheleft December 16, 2007 7:44 PM EST
None of these repuglicans are going to win in 2008. Why waste the effort in covering them or reading about them in the news?
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by missingamerica December 16, 2007 7:40 PM EST
[Referring to Edwards:] In fact, he dismissed the editorial''s description of his "harsh, anti-corporate rhetoric" which the paper said "would make it difficult to work with the business community to forge change."

I''d dismiss it, too. It is a fundamental question: Who runs America - Americans, or the corporations?

If the corporations must be slapped down hard in order to remind them that no American - and not every President - is their tail, so be it.
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