Dec. 12, 2007
Huckabee Apologizes For Mormon Remark
GOP Candidiate Tells Romney He Shouldn't Have Asked If Mormons Believe Jesus, Devil Are Brothers
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In an article to be published in Sunday's New York Times Magazine, Mike Huckabee said he believes Mormonism is a religion but doesn't know much about it. Romney retorted to a quote from the interview by saying that "attacking someone's religion is really going too far." (CBS/AP)
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On CNN, Huckabee said he told Romney "face to face" after today's debate in Iowa that he was sorry for the quote from an article to be published in Sunday's New York Times Magazine.
Huckabee told CNN that he had asked if Mormons believe Jesus and the devil are brothers because it was something he had heard, adding that he never thought his query would appear in the story. On NBC's "Today" show, Romney said "attacking someone's religion is really going too far."
Huckabee says he told Romney today that he would never make an issue of any point of Mormon doctrine, adding that the former Massachusetts governor's response "was gracious."
Romney's spokesman, Eric Fehrnstrom, told CBS News' Scott Conroy the apology was accepted.
"He believes that appeals to prejudice have no part in this campaign," Fehrnsstrom said, referring to Romney. "While it's fair to criticize an opponent's record or policy positions, it's out of bounds to question a person's religious beliefs."
Asked earlier if he believed Huckabee was speaking in a coded language to evangelicals, Romney praised his rival as a "good man trying to do the best he can," but he added, "I don't believe that the people of this country are going to choose a person based on their faith and what church they go to."
Huckabee maintains that his question in the interview was taken out of context. A statement from his campaign said the full context of the exchange shows Huckabee illustrating his unwillingness to answer questions about Mormonism and theological issues.
"Governor Huckabee has said consistently that he believes this campaign should center on a discussion of the important issues confronting our nation and not focus on questions of religious belief," said Charmaine Yoest, a senior adviser.
"He wants to assure persons of all faith traditions of his firm commitment to religious tolerance and freedom of worship. Governor Huckabee believes that one of the great strengths of our nation lies in its diversity of thought, opinion and faith," Yoest added.
But Huckabee's campaign did not provide more information about the exchange, which the magazine reported this way in the article by Zev Chafets: "I asked Huckabee, who describes himself as the only Republican candidate with a degree in theology, if he considered Mormonism a cult or a religion. 'I think it's a religion,' he said. 'I really don't know much about it.'
"I was about to jot down this piece of boilerplate when Huckabee surprised me with a question of his own: 'Don't Mormons,' he asked in an innocent voice, 'believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"'
Huckabee has been surging in recent opinion polls, taking the GOP lead in Iowa and pressing closer to Rudy Giuliani in polling.
The former Massachusetts governor also was asked why he used the term "Mormon" only once last week in a highly publicized speech about religion in which he said he was proud of his faith.
"Actually, we prefer the name 'The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,"' he said. "'Mormon' used to be a nickname and I don't use it a lot, but now and then I do because people know what faith I'm referring to, and I talked about 'my faith' a number of times, and I don't imagine anybody is confused about what faith I have."
The authoritative Encyclopedia of Mormonism, published in 1992, does not refer to Jesus and Satan as brothers. It speaks of Jesus as the son of God and of Satan as a fallen angel, which is a Biblical account.
A spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said Huckabee's question is usually raised by those who wish to smear the Mormon faith rather than clarify doctrine.
"We believe, as other Christians believe and as Paul wrote, that God is the father of all," said the spokeswoman, Kim Farah. "That means that all beings were created by God and are his spirit children. Christ, on the other hand, was the only begotten in the flesh and we worship him as the son of God and the savior of mankind. Satan is the exact opposite of who Christ is and what he stands for."
Romney also defended his first negative ad of the presidential campaign in Iowa, where Huckabee has erased Romney's long-standing lead in the polls. The spot, which began airing Tuesday, highlights Huckabee's support for in-state tuition for the children of illegal immigrants when he was governor of Arkansas, as well as his support for their being eligible for scholarships.
"It's not negative; it's accurate," Romney said. "It's an ad that shows the differences on a very important topic, and actually, if you agree with Mike Huckabee's positions, it's a positive ad for him. If you agree with my position, it's a positive ad for me."
Romney dismissed Huckabee's rise in the polls - saying he's seen similar surges from GOP rivals John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson - but he said scrutiny will follow his rival's rise to the top tier.
"I think Mike was desperately hoping that we would get through this without people taking a close look at his positions and his record, but his record on immigration, on pardons for criminals, on reducing the penalties for meth lab dealers, on taxing and spending - he increased spending from $6 billion to $16 billion. I think those features in his record will cause those numbers to turn around," Romney said.
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See all 111 CommentsThis is not very true, i was raised baptist and i know that they are a #1 anti mormon group, huckabee is a baptist preacher, and i know, as well as huckabee knows, as well as the majority of baptists know, that huckabee knew what he was saying and said it in a way that is anti mormon, and then played the innocent little preacher by saying ''that is not what i meant'', basically not telling the truth in the true context of what he said. shame on huckabee. is this the kind of leader i am looking for????
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LOL. I think this is sort of like the attoney that sneaks something into court, and the judge then tells the jury to disregard that last comment. The holy wars have started and they will have to play out to their bloody end. Maybe after these guys have bashed each other over the head with their prospective bibles, people will finally understand why our forefathers stipulated separation of church and state.
You nailed it. Code-speak never fails with Republicans.
Absolutely. Slip in a comment that you know the judge is going to throw out because once it''s said out loud the jury will still remember it. What''s next? "Oh I heard Mormons eat live puppies. Oh wait! You mean they don''t eat live puppies? Oh well I''m sorry! Forgive me for saying that MORMONS EAT LIVE PUPPIES! (wink wink) I''ll never say MORMONS EAT LIVE PUPPIES again! I swear it to God. You know. The real God. (wink wink) Not the one of the people like the MORMONS WHO EAT LIVE PUPPIES! Opps! Did I say that again? I''m sorry! Really! (wink wink)"
Posted by rushlimpdrug
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yes he got his answer, it is in the article. romney i do not think is going to indulge in the anti bashing that is thrown his way, it is a waste of breath and time. it just showes the lack of understanding or knowlege in what people of all faiths believe.
The authoritative Encyclopedia of Mormonism, published in 1992, does not refer to Jesus and Satan as brothers. It speaks of Jesus as the son of God and of Satan as a fallen angel, which is a Biblical account.
A spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said Huckabee''s question is usually raised by those who wish to smear the Mormon faith rather than clarify doctrine.
"We believe, as other Christians believe and as Paul wrote, that God is the father of all," said the spokeswoman, Kim Farah. "That means that all beings were created by God and are his spirit children. Christ, on the other hand, was the only begotten in the flesh and we worship him as the son of God and the savior of mankind. Satan is the exact opposite of who Christ is and what he stands for."
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Posted by fibonacci
Just another example of spreading rumors and smearing religions you know nothing about. Mormon''s don''t believe their underwear is "magic." The Mormon undergarments are a symbol of their faith and commitment to God. Same as the Muslim veils and Jewish cap. The Mormons just wear their symbols under their clothing rather than over.
Mormon doctrine affirms that they do believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers, and that Satan and Jesus each wanted to come to earth and be our saviors. ** Moses 4:1-4 (Council in Heaven)Abraham 3:22-28 (Council in Heaven) ***
This information is openly available on the official LDS web site. Gospel Principles.
I don''t understand why Mitt didn''t just answer the question. The answer is simply "yes".
"Oh! Oh! I''m to prissy to criticize someone elses religion, I''ll just take his whole record out of context and screw him over with it!"
"Oh! Oh! I would never presume to criticize someone elses religion. They took what I said out of context! I was just asking a question!"
There are not any two people on earth right now that would more likely give the best part of their fortune to anybody that would bring in some real identifiable dirt on the other one! Or that would spend the best part of their fortune paying off someone to keep quiet about their own dirt.
Dear, Lord, don''t give either one of these men the opportunity to make a bigger hypocrite of our country in the eyes of the world.
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Why are you getting worked up about underwear? Does this threaten you? Are you worried about Mormon fables because your religious fables say otherwise? Beerdnt, I will respect you if you say all christian fables are stories made up by the powerful to manipulate you, the meek.
Mormon doctrine explicitly states Jesus and Satan are brothers, each the Son of God - equally - and that they both wanted to be mankind''s savior. They each appeared before God and petitioned Godto send them, and God chose to send Jesus.
LDS should not be ashamed of or refrain from sharing the details of their faith.
actually, other countries of the world trust mormons because of their honesty, helpfulness, and Christ like love for all man kind. they are the only ones who do not seek the attention of the media when they are the first to respond to a disaster in another part of the world, and yes they are the first to be called and to be on site. who is??? well the rest. the mormons are not there for the fame and glory, they are there to truly help and administer aide. that makes a big difference for me in looking at romney.
Posted by Newsreader07
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i did not think they were ashamed, that is why they have missionaries on bikes telling all what they believe.
Ummm, think again brother!! What country have you been living in all your life!! Lol!! What a joke!! He''s a manipulator. The peoples of this country are generally very pessimistic about what religion a president has and why. And, considering who we are supposed to be at war with, the propaganda about Mulims and Islam is humongous! Of course the people think they need to know about someone''s religious faith and how they operate under it!!
Why are you getting worked up about underwear? Does this threaten you? Are you worried about Mormon fables because your religious fables say otherwise? Beerdnt, I will respect you if you say all christian fables are stories made up by the powerful to manipulate you, the meek
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underwear is just not an issue in who is pres. i wonder what kind of magic underwear huckabee wears, or obama, or even oprah. this sounds really stupid, doesnt it.
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sugar and spice and everything nice. lol
One piece of advice: Instead of going on a speculative rant as to why someone asked a question, just simply answer it.
and what are you referring to??? the response in the article from a church spokes person, or something i said????
oh really. preachers are the best manipulators, look at how rich in money they are. taking from the poor for their own personal gain. i have often thought about becoming a preacher. what a cool way to have power and money.
Illegal alien amnesty, Brutal taxation, unethical practices in office, misuse of campaign funds and accepted gifts in exchange for political appointments, destroyed dozens of public property computer hard drives to hide any other evidence of impropriety of his administration and the list goes on and on.
If you want to go have a beer with him that''s fine but, don''t you dare vote for this con artist...The Huckster is the very LAST thing this country needs or even deserves.
You couldn''t be more right!! Ministers, Priests, Rabbi''s---what good have they really done for all the money, tax breaks and moral postions they keep appointing themselves to?
No, really, what good has it done to have any religion at all?? It''s done more harm than good - no matter what the belief. That''s called a false belief - when no matter what, over all this time, not one religion or faith has changed a thing with regard to peace on earth. Not one can say their faith has done the wonders it claims to be capable of.
Romney however, in the Katie Couric interviews about what country were they were most afraid of was the only one so far that got it almost right. Iran, yes, Pakistan yes, But the real sleeper country who the world SHOULD be desparately afraid of, is Russia. Romney w/republicans was the only one to get it almost right.
There was a reason Putin had that KGB spy killed. There was a reason a good spy would defect and take his family running for his life. Russia should be looked at and their administration should be completely and very quietly dismantled--removed. They kill quietly and they keep their weapons of mass destruction very top secret- underground. That is a country this administration keeps overlooking because they are so quiet. Scary.
What is Huckabee religion? It''s easy to take pot shots at religious faiths but it''s a cheap shot for sure.
Romney didn''t have a good comeback. He should have asked Huckabee what faith he belongs to that would approve of discrimination of anyone who follows a faith. He should have asked publicly and outright what kind of person devalues someone''s faith when they haven''t taken the time to study it to know what from what not.
Politicians can take a flying leap along with all the religious leaders and the academic scholars. Go bye bye somewhere where we don''t have to hear your b.s. anymore so you can be rich and famous and pampered while foster children live like sh-t. They are all full of b.s.
do you own a hammer?? because you nailed it right on the head with your comment. pretty true.
Listin to y''all! Arguing up and down about presidential candidates based on nothing but religious fables and bluff and might. At least I''ve learned that bdrlnt4rl has a sense of humor. The more important issue to everyone might be that if we are choosing presidential candidates based on the views expressed in these posts, then we are all lost.
Whatever you say about christian living I will accept because i know nothing about that (despite being happy and successful with a great wife and a wonderful dog and contributing to the greater good in several ways.) What I will say is that any christian who denigrates Mormons because of their doctrine are fundamentally hypocritical, because their own doctrine is every bit as false as every christian doctrine. A prophet here or there, a sacred docoment here or there. Do any of you people actually think? Have you travelled to places where a rink-a-dink prophet or a rink-a-dink- text were never introduced? Should these folks flame in hell? (No, they will will laugh their assess off at you self-importance.) Get a life. Learn about history and culture and evolution.
oh really. preachers are the best manipulators, look at how rich in money they are. taking from the poor for their own personal gain. i have often thought about becoming a preacher. what a cool way to have power and money.
Posted by bdrlnt4rl
Yes, these folks find great monetary reward with their tax free status. The early days of the republic viewed long established religions not considering the future loop hole for the swine that run stadium sized mega churches.
The brewing problem in our current socioeconomic system is that reward doesn''t come to the honest. It is a rigged system that rewards drug dealers, pornographers, media garbage hoes, false preacher men and women, and the rest of lying unethical swine that society should not attempt to reason with but most certainly for the sake of survival needs to set limits on.
On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some%u2014especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel %u201Cwho was in authority in the presence of God,%u201D a %u201Cson of the morning.%u201D (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:25%u201327.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer%u2019s older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)
By Jess L. Christensen, Institute of Religion director at Utah State University, Logan, Utah.
see http://tinyurl.com/27n2hq
By the way, the D&C references are to Mormon writings, NOT the Bible!
Posted by nsuttree
lol. please tell us all about your underwear!!! size, streakmarks, style........
Posted by bdrlnt4rl
not to me. jesus told me that michael jordan and half the nba wear those magic morman underpants.
1. He will Eliminate the IRS:
This means you will receive 100% of your paycheck.
2. He will drastically reduce Gas prices:
Switch to alternative fuels, changing supply/demand.
3. He will reduce global warming.
Switch to alternative fuels, no carbon dioxides.
4. He will reduce threat of terrorism.
New fuels cause middle east gov. crack down on them.
5. He will reduce rising Health care costs.
New programs that prevent diseases, not just fix them.
6. He will lead up not just hard right or hard left.
Excellent communicator, will bring parties together.
7. He will lead with principles rather than money.
He cares everybody not just those on Wall Street.
8. He will give Hope to America and enthusiasm.
He plays bass guitar in a band, dynamic personality.
9. He will carry out his goals, not talk about them.
Lost 110 pounds, kept it off, ran 4 Marathons-26.2m
10. He knows the American people is the real boss.
As Governor, his picture frame only shows citizens.
Vote for Mike Huckabee, otherwise you will not be able to enjoy these benefits
Since the other candidates don''''t have anything to say on what they can do for America, they take the easy road and resort to taking cheap shots at Mike. Don%u2019t fall into their trap any longer with negative attacks, let''''s show the critics and the naysayers that Americans have pride and we are ready to elect an honest, humble, trustworthy man for US President.
you are no better than huckabee. attacking the faith for a vote. wow what low levels hypocrits sink......
magic froot of the loom???? or magic johnson of the loom?????
Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh.
OK, now I''m tied and can''t type ''laugh'' anymore.
Is ''idiot'' a shorter word?
Giant Robot, do you believe the christian fables?
are these things that you are TELLING me huckabee will do coming from prophet huckabee?????
Posted by bdrlnt4rl
no loom. they crochet by polygamous wives who use real japanese silk beetles. japanese give up the beetles to mormans cause evangelical christian zealots sending them, beetles and all, to hell. but they all go to mormans heaven if they baptize for the dead.
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