WASHINGTON, Dec. 10, 2007

White House Mum On Destroyed CIA Tapes

Congress Presses For Answers On Destruction Of Terror Interrogation Videotapes

  • White House lawyers have advised President Bush's spokeswoman not to answer specific questions about the CIA's destruction of videotapes of terror suspects under interrogation.

    White House lawyers have advised President Bush's spokeswoman not to answer specific questions about the CIA's destruction of videotapes of terror suspects under interrogation.  (AP)

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(CBS/AP)  As Congress seeks answers about why the CIA destroyed tapes of terror suspects under interrogation, White House lawyers have advised President Bush's spokeswoman not to answer specific questions about the matter.

The U.S. Justice Department and the Central Intelligence Agency's internal watchdog are conducting a joint inquiry into the spy agency's destruction of videotaped interrogations of two suspected terrorists, to determine whether a full investigation is warranted. With that review ongoing, the White House counsel's office has instructed Mr. Bush's press secretary, Dana Perino, not to get into details with reporters.

"I think that that's appropriate, and I'll adhere to it," Perino said Monday.

Perino would not comment on reports that former White House counsel Harriet Miers knew of the tapes years ago and advised against their destruction, reports CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller.

Perino also said she stands by her assertion that Mr. Bush had no recollection of the tapes matter and was first informed of it last Thursday by CIA Director Michael Hayden. She repeated that Mr. Bush has "complete confidence" in Hayden

The White House typically stops commenting, beyond broad talking points, once an inquiry into a controversial matter is under way. When a reporter asked about another White House "wall of silence," Perino told the media in her briefing: "I can see where that cynicism that usually drifts from this room could come up in this regard. What I can tell you is I try my best to get you as much information as I can."

Congressional leaders are pressing to find out who knew what about the CIA's destruction of interrogation videotape and whether justice was obstructed in the process. Politicians in both parties and in the presidential campaign said inquiries must get to the bottom of the matter and questioned who if anyone in the White House knew what was happening. But there appears to be little support for appointment of a special prosecutor.

Democrats and some Republicans expressed skepticism about CIA claims that tapes of the questioning of two terrorism suspects were destroyed only to protect the identity of the interrogators.

"The actions, I think, were absolutely wrong," Republican presidential candidate John McCain, a victim of torture while a war prisoner in Vietnam, said Sunday. "There will be skepticism and cynicism all over the world about how we treat prisoners and whether we practice torture or not."

Republican presidential rival Mike Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor, questioned whether the CIA destroyed the tape for security purposes as claimed "or to cover somebody's rear end."

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The actions, I think, were absolutely wrong. There will be skepticism and cynicism all over the world about how we treat prisoners and whether we practice torture or not.

Sen. John McCain
Republican presidential candidate
Sen. Joe Biden, a Democratic presidential candidate and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, called for a special investigator. "I just think it's clearer and crisper and everyone will know what the truth is," he said.

That view was not shared by fellow Democratic Sen. Jay Rockefeller, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, or a number of other prominent Democrats.

"I don't think there's a need for a special counsel, and I don't think there's a need for a special commission," Rockefeller said on CBS' Face the Nation. "It is the job of the intelligence committees to do that."

Sen. Chuck Hagel, a Republican often critical of the administration on national security and Iraq, said he finds it hard to believe the White House did not know. "Maybe they're so incompetent" they didn't, he told CBS. "I don't know how deep this goes. Could there be obstruction of justice? Yes. How far does this go up in the White House, who knew it? I don't know."

The spy agency destroyed the tapes in November 2005, at a time when human rights groups and lawyers for detainees were clamoring for information about the agency's secret detention and interrogation program, and Congress and U.S. courts were debating where "enhanced interrogation" crossed the line into torture.

Rockefeller, citing the confidentiality of certain intelligence briefings, said he could not comment on the existence of any other interrogation tapes. He said CIA Director Hayden would appear before his committee Tuesday.

Biden cited Attorney General Michael Mukasey's refusal during confirmation hearings to describe waterboarding as torture as a reason to appoint an independent counsel.

"He's the same guy who couldn't decide whether or not waterboarding was torture and he's going to be doing this investigation," said Biden. The "easiest, straightest thing to do is to take it out of the political realm, appoint a special prosecutor and let them decide, and call - call it where it is. Is there a criminal violation? If there is, proceed. If not, don't."

Waterboarding is an interrogation technique in which a detainee is made to feel as though he is drowning.

Hayden told CIA employees Thursday that the recordings were destroyed out of fear the tapes would leak and reveal the identities of interrogators.

But a well-informed source told CBS News national security correspondent David Martin that the recordings were destroyed to avoid criminal prosecution of CIA officials.

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by rowdytexan2 December 11, 2007 1:11 PM EST
Posted by mudrose at 09:23 AM : Dec 11, 2007

That''s easy. Impeach the one that authorized and ordered the torture, himself, Mr. Bush and/or Mr. Cheney. Nancy Pelosi, et al, didn''t know about before it was already done.

You republiCONS are so desperate to point the finger at someone else, it''s pitiful.
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by coonsey2 December 11, 2007 12:30 PM EST
The first question to ask is, was the torture (according to one of the interrogators) a war crime? If so, Bush/Cheney should be impeached immediately.

Secondly, if any Rep or Dem knew about this torture and refused to try and stop it - they too should be impreached.

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by mudrose-2009 December 11, 2007 12:23 PM EST
This is it--Impeachment time!
Posted by ghostcommand

Who ya gonna impeach. The Intelligence Committee? Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Dimnowits who approved waterboarding and then some? They scam they daylights out of you idiots and you sit there and give the usual knee jerk response. Bush Derangement Syndrome - created by the Dimnowits for the base. All they have to say is Bush and every one of you salivates.
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by mudrose-2009 December 11, 2007 12:19 PM EST
How''''s come they didn''''t care about protecting the identity of the CIA agent when it furthered their agenda of making Iran into a rogue state? We all know who Valerie Plame is...
Posted by toneii

Plame outted herself with her campaign donatiions to Al Bore. The entire intelligence committee was briefed on waterboarding including Nancy Pelosi. They Dems are con-men, big time. Every time they have to fund the troops, they create another scandal. They knew about the water-boarding and consented to it and then some. Wake up, you''re being scammed by the Dimnowits once again.
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by toneii December 11, 2007 12:03 PM EST
How''s come they didn''t care about protecting the identity of the CIA agent when it furthered their agenda of making Iran into a rogue state? We all know who Valerie Plame is...
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by ringostarr35 December 11, 2007 3:50 AM EST
The next time when someone in Iraq or elsewhere cuts off the head of some American or other western citizen we should not complain. It is a *** for tat. We do it to them and they do it to us. Those tapes surely had incriminating images of US officers abusing their prisoners. To maintain the proper image of USA, any officer of the US must treat his prisoner as if they were sitting in one of their field offices in the US and the first thing they ought to do is to read them Miranda right and THEN ASK QUESTIONS. After that, if they do not answer questions, take them before a US Magistrate JUDGE, transport them to a proper prison and give them a LAWYER. That would be PROPER and the world would RESPECT USA.
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by sgtrds December 11, 2007 3:35 AM EST
I bet we could take old Dubya in the closet and waterboard him and he''''d tell us he voted democrat in every election in his life.

Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 11:23 PM : Dec 10, 2007

And I bet that if we put it on international pay per view we could pay off the national debt this as*shole has run up. Hell I''d happily pay $49.95 to see Bush tortured! And an extra $20 if they''d do the same to Fat Bas***** Cheney!
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by rowdytexan2 December 11, 2007 2:23 AM EST
I believe if one American life is saved it is worth it.

Posted by Edward1975 at 07:31 PM : Dec 10, 2007

Sir, your support of torture is your prerogerative, however it does not make it right.

When someone is tortured, they will tell you whatever you want to hear to make you stop. It doesn''t do a *** thing to get the TRUTH! It is not a viable truth! And in fact, makes you the terrorist!

I bet we could take old Dubya in the closet and waterboard him and he''d tell us he voted democrat in every election in his life.
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by sgtrds December 11, 2007 1:38 AM EST
I have a neighbor that I don''''t like, if I were offered 20k to say he was a terrorist there is a good chance I''''d do it or turn in a child molester and get 20k, win, win, right? They get locked up forever, no trial, no witnesses, no evidence, got to love Bush''''s America!

Posted by fiteit1 at 09:43 PM : Dec 10, 2007


Which is, of course, exactly how the bounty system we put into place in the early days of the Afghanistan war worked. All someone had to do was to point to someone they didn''t like, say the were a terrorist and the person was shipped off to Gitmo with no investigation of any kind. The government says it takes a long time to prepare a case against the detainees because Afghanistan is so far away and uncivilized, but the truth is they just plain don''t have any case against most of the prisoners because most of them are not guilty of anything and they know it
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by bobnjersey December 11, 2007 1:24 AM EST
[you continue to enjoy bombing poor people and stealing their resources, you are the greatest danger to a civilized world ... The problem is you!]
[Posted by zootallures2 at 07:22 PM : Dec 10, 2007]

well ... that''s all true except for the ''enjoying'' part ... it''s no fun being the bully ya know!
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by Krazcarl December 11, 2007 1:19 AM EST
yea like they were going to fess up..
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by zootallures2 December 11, 2007 12:56 AM EST
The Matchstickmen.... wait when the eyes turn RED!
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by tylenol6 December 11, 2007 12:56 AM EST
John (bomb, bomb Iran) McCain is a complete LOSER and
has lost all credibility. McCain is also a CFR member
globalist sellout AMERICA!!!!!!!!! wake up people!!!!!
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by fiteit1 December 11, 2007 12:43 AM EST
I have a neighbor that I don''t like, if I were offered 20k to say he was a terrorist there is a good chance I''d do it or turn in a child molester and get 20k, win, win, right? They get locked up forever, no trial, no witnesses, no evidence, got to love Bush''s America!
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by fiteit1 December 11, 2007 12:24 AM EST
It is not lowering yourself to their level, it is survival. And those who refuse to abide by said rules, do not deserve it%u2019s protection.

Posted by Edward1975 at 06:55 PM : Dec 10, 2007

The U.S. is not abiding by said rules and we don''t deserve it''s protection either. Others look us upon for the way we act. Act like tyrants and we''re seen as tyrants, Act like hypocrites, we''re seen as hypocrites.
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by fiteit1 December 11, 2007 12:11 AM EST
I think when the administration switches a full investigation take place of all government agencies involved. Anyone that new about the tapes and approved the destruction and carried out the destruction be rendition%u2019d to Iraq, where they be interrogated by the Iraq''s with no tapes, recordings or government watch dogs and then drop there sorry assses off in the middle of Iran.
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by fiteit1 December 11, 2007 12:00 AM EST
I believe if one American life is saved it is worth it.

Posted by Edward1975 at 07:31 PM : Dec 10, 2007

So your saying it''s ok to torture U.S. solders & civilians for information to advance what someone else believes is right?
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by rowdytexan2 December 10, 2007 11:11 PM EST
Leaving this issue to the intelligence community is like putting the fox in the hen house! Don''t people understand that they can''t be trusted? The State Department is going to investigate? That''s the biggest laugh of the century!

Lest we forget, Mr. Rockefeller''s fortune came from the oil industry. Like he''s going to go up against these guys?

All you folks that cry less government should take this as a hard lesson. Without government oversight they can do whatever they want!! That''s the biggest bunch of *** the republicans have been selling us for YEARS!

I''m telling ya, not one freaking thing is going to be done unless we get out from behind the tv and take to the streets and make them understand we mean business.

I can''t vote republican, but I do have to say that Mr. McCain is the ONLY republican that has guts enough to stand on a principle or two. Although I don''t agree with his theory that we have to stay in Iraq to fight terrorism. That''s hogwash!
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by sgtrds December 10, 2007 11:06 PM EST
I believe if one American life is saved it is worth it.

Posted by Edward1975 at 07:31 PM : Dec 10, 2007

If that life is saved because of torture, then no, it''s not worth it. Torture is a cancer in our system and is un-American. Once you justify it in any case you''ll start justifying it in every case. No, it''s not worth it.
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by j-whitman December 10, 2007 11:02 PM EST
Edward1975,,, With your logic, white isn''t white it''s just gray. ------ I''t our laws dued, not a loose interpretation of them
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