Nov. 28, 2007

"Gay Question" General Linked To Clinton

Politico: Debate Questioner Who Asked About Gays In The Military Is Co-Chair Of Group For Hillary

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The retired general who asked about gays and lesbians serving in the military at the CNN/YouTube Republican debate on Wednesday is a co-chair of Hillary Clinton's National Military Veterans group.

Retired Brig. Gen. Keith H. Kerr  was named a co-chair of the group this month, according to a campaign press release.

He was also active in John F. Kerry's 2004 campaign for president.

Kerr asked candidates “why you think that American men and women in uniform are not professional enough to serve with gays and lesbians.”

After the debate former Education Secretary Bill Bennett, said on a CNN panel that he was being told Kerr was involved with the Democratic presidential campaign of Clinton, a New York senator.

CNN anchor Anderson Cooper, who moderated the debate and the panel, said that if that was the case, CNN should have identified Kerr as such.

David Bohrman, a CNN senior vice president and executive producer of the debate,  later said: "We regret this, and apologize to the Republican candidates. We never would have used the general's question had we known that he was connected to any presidential candidate."

Kerr told CNN that he had not done work for the Clinton campaign, and CNN verified before the debate that he had not contributed money to any candidate, the broadcaster said in a blog post after the debate.

Kerry told CNN he is a member of the Log Cabin Republicans and was representing no one other than himself, CNN said.

A Nov. 11 press release retrieved from the website of the non-partisan magazine Campaigns & Elections lists Kerr as one of nearly 50 co-chairs of “Veterans and Military Retirees for Hillary."

Clinton’s campaign did not respond to an e-mail asking about Kerr’s role in her campaign or whether he was acting on behalf of the campaign.

Kerr also was on 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry’s National Veterans Steering Committee, according to a campaign press release retrieved from the website of George Washington University.

And Kerr appears to be an active opponent of the U.S. military’s current stance on gays and lesbians serving the military, the so-called “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

He appeared on the now-defunct CNN partner network CNNfn in Dec. 2003 to discuss the tenth anniversary of the policy. According to a transcript, he called it “a tremendous waste of personnel, a tremendous waste of financial resources for the United States.”

Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.), the ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee, got first crack at Kerr’s question. He said he thought having openly gay men and lesbian women in the military “would be bad for unit cohesion.”

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, answering next, basically agreed.

Cooper then singled out former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who in 1994 said he looked forward to the day gays and lesbians could serve openly in the military.

Romney said times have changed. Though he said he laughed when he first heard talk of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, and didn’t think it would work, he said: “You know what? It’s been there now for 15 years and it seems to have worked.”

Cooper then turned to Kerr and asked whether he felt he got an answer to his question.

Kerr responded: “With all due respect, I did not get an answer from the candidates. American men and women in the military are professional enough to serve with gays and lesbians.... Today, don’t ask, don’t tell is destructive to our military policy.”

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a decorated Vietnam veteran, got the last word on "don't ask, don't tell."

He said high-ranking military officials “almost unanimously, they tell me that this present policy is working. That we have the best military in history, we have the bravest, most profssional, best-prepared and that this policy ought to be continued because it’s working.”


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by simonsez40 November 29, 2007 9:59 AM PST
Who cares about this issue? Just another HOT TOPIC to get the Religious Right all riled up! I''m sure SINGINRICK will be in here shortly educating us all.......
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by hwy71so November 29, 2007 10:45 AM PST
The general didn''t have to share his quarters. All he has to go on is reports sent up to him. Reports of which, most likely, one of his aides read and requested the general''s signature.

*** have no place in the military. They are a liability.
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by simonsez40 November 29, 2007 11:20 AM PST
Hillary panders to swishy men, and Bill likes fat piggies.

LOL


Posted by nameverify

And Republican Curtis and Craig take WIDE STANCES......

THEY don''t belong there HWY - they are already there and have been seen the age of dawn.......in fact THEY are all around you just don''t have a clue and let fear and ignorance control your thought process.
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by djordje1-2009 November 29, 2007 11:42 AM PST
This issue has been beaten worse than a dead horse. Get over it! What is the gay representation within the military, 1%? Less? Furthermore, why should our military institutions have to pander to alternative lifestyles and create turbulence with the 99% majority of soldiers. If someone wants to be gay, and also be in the military, they need only shut their mouth and serve this country. Everyone has a choice in this country and those who do not care for the policies of the military should not enlist. Our military institutions have no place for activists and/or the promotion of radical agendas that are way out of sync with the overwhelming majority. If that is too hard to accomplish, let''s set up a separate "gay only" branch of our military and not listen to this garbage anymore.
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by deegeetau November 29, 2007 11:44 AM PST
I am absolutely disgusted with CNN''s incredibly biased production last night planting Democrat participants in a Republican debate. Review all the uncovered plants here: http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/29/digging-out -the-cnnyoutube-plants-abortion-questioner-is-ed wards-supporter/

A new study released by Harvard University and highlighted in Editor & Publisher finds more than 60% of Americans do not trust the MSM''s political and Presidential campaign coverage. After last night those numbers will surely increase and CNN''s "approval numbers" will fall way below those of even Congress.

CNN has turned into a pathetic extension of the Democrat party and has lost all credibility as an independent news source.

While I believe Wolf should stay under tight scrutiny, it is clear that Anderson Cooper will have to take a hike and CNN management needs to aggressively apologize to the American public.
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by dan9111 November 29, 2007 11:47 AM PST
We need more gaymen like this, but allied with Conservatives instead. Why? Because the feminist divorce industry has bankrupted families, leaving children fatherless and turning kids into value-less "living dolls" for single moms to profit from.

Every gayman puts feminism where the belongs -- in the shack of history with other bigotry. Someday when there is gay-divorce, it will be obvious because there is no "man" to steal from. They would both be same-***, and hopefully without kids. The divorce industry will shut down fast, and feministas will have to get jobs. Social conservatives know the cure for family-destruction. It is just a painful counterintuitive one.
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by johnny343sc November 29, 2007 11:54 AM PST
DUMMYCRATS DIRTY DEBATE TRICKS YET AGAIN! YAY!

WHADDYA EXPECT? SHEEZE... AND THE DEMS SAY THE REPUBLICANS ARE CROOKED. LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

HEY, CBS, YOU''RE GETTING BETTER AT BEING "NON-BIASED"... BUT VAST IMPROVEMENT IS STILL NEEDED IN THIS AREA.

I was in the active military recently... "don''t ask, don''t tell" works just fine.

Why fix it if it ain''t broke? Answer: it is just another thing the Dems are trying to get at Republicans about.

You know it''s true...

;)
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by frankly6 November 29, 2007 12:14 PM PST


Oh my...

For a really juicy story on question planting and male prostitution, google Jeff Gannon and Bush.



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by bizzzz-2009 November 29, 2007 12:19 PM PST
Several times, I have asked the question on this message board of why don''t the Democratic candidates debate on Fox, when the Republicans agree to debate on networks like CNN. I usually get a response that the Democrats are too smart to go on FOX, since it is not a "reputable" network like CNN or MSNBC as if Chris Wallace or Brit Humes are known for sabotaging the people they interview.
CNN reputable? Last nights debate was at least a joke and, at most, a scam perpetrated by CNN.
First, one of the You tube questionaires that posed a question regarding g@ys in the military turned out to be a Clinton operative, on the Clinton campaign payroll, who as it turns out was actually flown in by CNN (travel paid for) for the event.
Also, after the debate, CNN had gathered a group of so- called "undecided" Republicans to get their feedback. One of the ladies in the group that was interviewed said that she was going to vote for "Guiliano" (not Guiliani), MISPRONOUNCING his name, then said shes decided to vote for Hillary.
Another African American said that he thought "Hucka..Hucka.." only to have the name Huckabee finally given to him by the woman from CNN giving the interview.
THESE ARE REPUBLICAN UNDECIDED??? What a f$cking scam. I''m an undecided Republican, but I know all the republican AND Democratic contenders'' names.
If this is what you call a reputable network ,I feel sorry for this country. With so much blatant cheating, this country is in real trouble.
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by frankly6 November 29, 2007 12:21 PM PST



Oh my...

For a really juicy story on question planting and male prostitution, google Jeff Gannon and Bush.



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by notblue November 29, 2007 12:22 PM PST
Hillary used a person to give a scripted question at her last town hall speach and now she is planting an individual who is scripted with the intention of disrupting the Republican debate. If these acts were done by a Republican the press would be relentless.

Also, the Republicans didn''t boycott the CNN event like the DEms who boycotted the FOX venue.
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by squidly8 November 29, 2007 12:23 PM PST
I don''t care if a democrat was able to ask a genuine question at GOP debate, what is important is the planting of people. It is a similar liberal tactic to the oft used ''shout down''. If you can tie up the debate, you accomplish the same as a shout down - don''t allow the message to get across.

Way too coincidental to not be some type of coordinated effort. The Dem candidate might not have known, but the campaign probably encouraged/planned it. Hillary''s campaign certainly knows about planting questions.....
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by thinkharder- November 29, 2007 12:31 PM PST
they need only shut their mouth and serve this country.
Posted by djordje1

In that line of thinking, why not make all forms of intimate realations forbidden within the military ranks? If a homosexual soldier can''t openly express their sexuality, neither should anyone else. Also, how can you say that the military insitution is no place for activists and "radical" agendas. There is nothing "radical" about a soldiers wish to be who they are, as they are, for the country they love. Homophobic rants like yours is the real problem here. It creates an atmosphere in which intolerance is inherent. These men and women have enough to worry about with bullets wizzing overhead and road side bombs making for very bad days. They shouldn''t have to concern themselves with whether or not they may accidentilly slip up and display their sexual orientation.
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by frankly6 November 29, 2007 12:31 PM PST



Oh my...

For a really juicy story on question planting and male prostitution, google Jeff Gannon and Bush.



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by hawksprings November 29, 2007 12:31 PM PST
Kerr wasn''t the only Dembot plant last night.
Check out www.drudgereport.com for links to more Dembot plants.

The poor little Dembot Candidates won''t debate on Fox because it''s too biased, but the Republican Candidates aren''t afraid to go on the Clinton News Network to debate.

Dembots have no balls.
Except for Hillary, she keeps the balls she''s collected in a box on her night stand.
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by frankly6 November 29, 2007 12:33 PM PST



Oh my...

For a really juicy story on question planting and male prostitution, google Jeff Gannon and Bush.


Careful, it''s juicy.





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by denn034 November 29, 2007 12:36 PM PST
I served in Desert Storm with an openly gay member in the unit. Other than his commenting on the size of other''s genitalia in the communal shower, he served with honor and distinction. I have no problem with them serving in the military provided they behave themselves. However, many in the military, especially the white supremacists, see it differently. Though most soldiers in the military could tolerate an openly gay person serving, a few would pressure them to leave or engage in gay bashing, abuse, or possibly murder.
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by denn034 November 29, 2007 12:38 PM PST
Hillary''s campaign should be ashamed of themselves.
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by frankly6 November 29, 2007 12:39 PM PST



Oh my...


For a really juicy story on question planting and male prostitution, google Jeff Gannon and Bush.


Be careful, it''s very juicy.



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by djordje1-2009 November 29, 2007 12:40 PM PST
Addendum to my previous post. In order to make the gay activists happy, let me clarify. There is no place in the military for hetero nor homsexual displays of affection. Therefore, "Don''t ask don''t tell" serves it''s purpose. To protect this country has nothing to do with wearing rainbow patches, nor does it have any place. Our military isn''t a pageant.......it''s an institution designed to provide national security. Where do sexual preferences play any part in that?
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by gunnerv1 November 29, 2007 12:42 PM PST
That''s OK, The General will never have to be bunked/sleep in a ships berthing compartment with 50 other men in bunks stacked up 3 to 4 high in a room that is no larger than your average Front Room of your home. I have been on a few ships that had an "aggresive" homosexual. Needless to say, that indivdual was removed from the ship and processed out of the service. (The Ships XO nicknamed them "Nightcrawler''s"). I guess that some people just can''t control themselves.
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by creeper00 November 29, 2007 12:43 PM PST
Is there some scandal here that I''m missing or is this just rabble-rousing on the part of CBS and Republicans? Are Democrats not allowed to ask questions of Republicans and vice versa?

Tempest in a teapot.
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by frankly6 November 29, 2007 12:45 PM PST



Oh my...


For a really juicy story on question planting and male prostitution, google Jeff Gannon and Bush.


Be careful, it''s very juicy.



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by phillynets-2009 November 29, 2007 12:45 PM PST
The only link to Clinton was by Bob Bennent. It''s still a good question.
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by blazercoach1 November 29, 2007 12:47 PM PST
I served in Desert Storm with an openly gay member in the unit. Other than his commenting on the size of other''''s genitalia in the communal shower, he served with honor and distinction. I have no problem with them serving in the military provided they behave themselves. However, many in the military, especially the white supremacists, see it differently. Though most soldiers in the military could tolerate an openly gay person serving, a few would pressure them to leave or engage in gay bashing, abuse, or possibly murder.

Posted by denn034 at 12:36 PM : Nov 29, 2007

Now imagine that a male did this to a female. Would it not warrant his immediate firing and a likely harrassment suit against both the individual and the company they are employed by? Sorry, denn034...but you example seems to be counterproductive to your cause.
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by mg403055b November 29, 2007 12:49 PM PST
What does it matter who asks the question at any "public event?" for the public to hear what a candidate(s) will do, is about, wants, etc. Why don''t we stay on subject - what was the answer of the question!
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by frankly6 November 29, 2007 12:54 PM PST



Oh my....



For a really juicy story on question planting and male prostitution, google Jeff Gannon and Bush.



Be careful, it''s very juicy.






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by superdem November 29, 2007 12:58 PM PST
Why is the "gay" general''s connection to Democrats the story, instead of the fact that all of the Republican candidates for President are homophobes who, even when the military is taking in criminals, skinheads, mental deficients and old guys in a time of war, won''t take *** ? Did any of the Republicans thank the "gay" general for his service to our country ? That''s what the candidates always do now, to "honor our troops" you know. Getting to be a general isn''t easy for a straight guy, much less a gay guy, it had to be twice as hard as well as demeaning in a million ways. I doubt it - Republicans hear "gay" and immediately lose their minds. This general served a country that won''t grant him equal rights, that takes guts. The Democrats aren''t the enemy, America. We''re the good guys.
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by bizzzz-2009 November 29, 2007 1:02 PM PST
CNN= COMMUNIST NEWS NETWORK
It turns out Kerr wasn''''t the only Democratic operative asking questions. One woman who identified herself as Journey from Texas, and who has a Web page in which she goes by the name Paperserenade asked the candidates about whether they would prosecute women and doctors if abortion were made illegal and the practice continued. After the debate, she posted a Web video wearing a John Edwards ''''08 T-shirt. In the posting, she said she was disappointed by the responses she got, particularly from Fred Thompson, though it''''s the answer she expected.
Leeann Anderson, asked about the danger of lead toys from China. Anderson, an activist on the issue, is reportedly an assistant to Leo Gerard, president of the United Steelworkers of America. The union endorsed Edwards earlier this month, and Anderson''''s question is posted on the steelworkers'''' YouTube page next to a picture of Edwards

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by frankly6 November 29, 2007 1:02 PM PST



Oh my....



For a really juicy story on question planting and male prostitution, google Jeff Gannon and Bush.



Be careful, it''s very juicy.



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by one_american November 29, 2007 1:05 PM PST
Clinton just won''t play the game unless she is allowed to get away with stacking the deck...

And Hillary wants to whine about a supposed "right-wing attack machine".

The Clintons are to politics what the Mafia is to gambling.
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by frankly6 November 29, 2007 1:05 PM PST



Oh my....



For a really juicy story on question planting and male prostitution, google Jeff Gannon and Bush.



Be careful, it''s very juicy.




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by hypnotoad72 November 29, 2007 1:06 PM PST
%u201Cwhy you think that American men and women in uniform are not professional enough to serve with *** and lesbians.%u201D -- so Americans and *** are two different nationalities, is that it?

Plenty in the GLBT community, when otherwise demanding attention, always say "Leave us alone, it doesn''t matter what we are". Right, Ricky?

Well then, leave the g**s alone.

But in unfettered seriousness: I''m glad he served, but his own comment is unmitigated heterophobia.
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by denn034 November 29, 2007 1:06 PM PST
What part of "behave themselves" don''t you understand, blazercoach1?
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by terrorislam6 November 29, 2007 1:14 PM PST
the hitlery kkklintoon planted question would be better asked to the kkklintoons,,,

bubba''s first act as president was *** in the military,,, and it became,,, don''t ask don''t tell,,,

skippy is a good example of why we do not want nor need the draft,,, all those liberals nancying around getting in the way of getting the job done,,, all they do is help the enemy,,, just like turncoat hanoi jane kerry did,,, better they stay right here running their mouths like monday morning quarter backs,,, lol,,, right skippy,,,
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by oneillwfx November 29, 2007 1:18 PM PST
How about this. Since republicans claim they are for equality and believe in justice for all, we can have a new policy for everyone. We can still call it don''t ask, don''t tell. Military folks will not be allowed to say if they are gay or straight, nor may they do anything that hints what your sexuality really is. They will have to ban marriage for everyone in the military. It would be lovely to see straight homophobes get treated as horribly as gay people are.
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by oneillwfx November 29, 2007 1:21 PM PST
How about this. Since republicans claim they are for equality and believe in justice for all, we can have a new policy for everyone. We can still call it don''t ask, don''t tell. Military folks will not be allowed to say if they are gay or straight, nor may they do anything that hints what their sexuality really is. They will have to ban marriage for everyone in the military. It would be lovely to see straight homophobes get treated as horribly as gay people are.
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by frankly6 November 29, 2007 1:24 PM PST



Oh my....



For a really juicy story on question planting and male prostitution, google Jeff Gannon and Bush.



Be careful, it''s very juicy.



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by thinkharder- November 29, 2007 1:24 PM PST
CNN= COMMUNIST NEWS NETWORK
It turns out Kerr wasn''''''''t the only Democratic operative asking questions.
Posted by bizzzz

Oh no...McCarthy is back from the grave. Who cares whether there were dems throwing questions at repubs? Why do they have to be operative agents? If anything, questions posed by dem "agents" are more likely to challenge and elicit "from the hip" responces from candidates who otherwise have just about every responce to a questions rehearsed a thousand times in their heads.

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by excoachken November 29, 2007 1:31 PM PST
Why are you so worried about where the question came from? Haven''t most rational people had a problem with a policy that encourages deceit and lies. Oh yeah, I forgot, deceit and lies are basic tenants of the Republican Party platform. Perhaps Mr. Huncan Dunter or Hike Muckabee should check the data on veterans who commit suicide and they would see how well the policy works.
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by thinkharder- November 29, 2007 1:31 PM PST
To protect this country has nothing to do with wearing rainbow patches, nor does it have any place
Posted by djordje1 at 12:40 PM : Nov 29, 2007

HAHA...I''m not a gay activist...I''m a people activist. I''m straight as an arrow friend. What about pilots who have visions of beautiful port side women painted on the sides of their planes, or tatooed...etc? Please, the policy is hypocritical and is meant solely to marginalize our proud homosexual service members.
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by dan9111 November 29, 2007 1:56 PM PST
Actually, if Conservatives would see the truth, our American gaymen have a good shot at defending the American Family.

With gaymarriage in place, there is no "man" to steal from during a divorce, and fewer children thrown into fatherlessness. The feminist divorce industry preys on straight men. They cannot do this once homosexuals are finally recognized by social conservatives and the nasty-tasting medicine our society needs to fend off liberal mental illness.
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by irishmail42 November 29, 2007 2:03 PM PST
The Democrats are getting as good as the Republicans at "dirty tricks."

As for Duncan Hunter''s comment, that it %u201Cwould be bad for unit cohesion.%u201D Does that mean that the NATO countries that allow *** to serve openly in their military should no longer be our allies any longer?


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by hillaryin08 November 29, 2007 2:07 PM PST
This guy should ask Hillary Clinton about the "Dont ask Dont tell" its her husbands law! Just like NAFTA and everything else they are complaining about.
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by thinkharder- November 29, 2007 2:15 PM PST
Homos should not be allowed to vote let alone live in the USA.
Posted by shafteriffic

I wish you many, many, many gay children.
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by djlny November 29, 2007 2:18 PM PST
The only thing that isn''t a real snoozer about this is that democratic operatives are now openly allowed to pose as members of the general public and pull it off with aplomb. God forbid it should have been the other way around - the gates of hell would have opened over the deceitful right wing conspiracies. My barfometer is reading is pegged to the left side of the gauge. Oh well zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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by chucktruck2 November 29, 2007 2:21 PM PST
Gen. Kerr is also a coward .Why did he lie all during his career ? Why did he lie last night ? Who is incharge at CNN ?
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by homespunlady November 29, 2007 2:22 PM PST
Water under the bridge.

When I went into the service I had an elderly aunt pull me aside and ask me why I enlisted - according to her, I had just gotten married so I didn''t need to "hunt for a man" and since I was married I was "obviously not g@y".
Back then desperation for a decent job wasn''t even on the radar for reasons to join.

If an eighty year old lady in ''75 held those beliefs then it''s been an "accepted understanding" that they have been in the military for a very, very long time.

It''s only been a "big issue" since the morality police needed an issue.
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by greeneyes222 November 29, 2007 2:24 PM PST
Bad move for Hillary. This isn''t about *** at all, it''s about political dirty tricks and a general who "omitted" the truth.
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by gkc99 November 29, 2007 2:29 PM PST
"After the debate former Education Secretary Bill Bennett, said on a CNN panel that he was being told Kerr was involved with the Democratic presidential campaign of Clinton, a New York senator. "


Oh yeah like you could trust anything the punk Bill Bennett says. Has he recovered from his addiction yet?
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