Mideast Summit Has "A Hopeful Beginning"

Bush Assures Mideast Leaders That The U.S. Will Be Actively Engaged In The Process

(CBS/AP)  President George W. Bush, capping an intense flurry of diplomacy, said Wednesday the agreement by Israeli and Palestinian leaders to resume long-stalled peace talks was "a hopeful beginning."

Bush was joined at the White House by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert in a brief ceremony a day after they agreed in nearby Annapolis, Maryland, to try to reach a Mideast peace settlement by the end of 2008.

"One thing I have assured both gentlemen is that the United States will be actively engaged in the process," Bush said. "We will use our power to help you as you come up with the necessary decisions to lay out a Palestinian state that will live side-by-side in peace with Israel."

As part of the U.S. pledge to assist in the peace process, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice tapped a former NATO commander on Wednesday to serve as a special envoy for Middle East security.

"Yesterday was an important day, and it was a hopeful beginning," Bush said with the leaders at his side. "No matter how important yesterday was, it's not nearly as important as tomorrow and the days beyond. I appreciate the commitment of these leaders, working hard to achieve peace. I wouldn't be standing here if I didn't believe that peace was possible, and they wouldn't be here either if they didn't think peace was possible."

Unlike their three-way handshake on Tuesday, the leaders did not shake hands at the White House.

"I appreciate your courage and leadership," Bush said. "It's an honor to call you friends. And it's an honor to have watched you yesterday as you laid out your respective visions for something we all want, which is peace in the holy land."

After meeting their own low expectations for the Annapolis conference amid intense skepticism, Bush administration officials crowed with delight.

During a round of TV interviews Wednesday morning in which she praised unprecedented support for the peace process from Arab states, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told CBS News Early Show co-anchor Harry Smith she believed Olmert and Abbas did have the conviction to settle on compromises that will be deeply unpopular among many of their constituents, but crucial to the success of any long-term peace agreement.

"I see in both of these leaders a kind of commitment to do precisely that, to take the difficult decisions," she said.

After inaugurating the negotiations at the White House, the two sides have agreed to continue with a meeting in the region on Dec. 12, Rice said Tuesday.

Rice tapped James L. Jones to serve as a special envoy for Middle East security, moving quickly to maintain momentum coming out of this week's international conference that launched new Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. The retired Marine general who will advise the Secretary of State on security aspects of the new Israeli-Palestinian peace talks has a reputation for outspoken independence.

Jones, whose decorated Marine Corps career spanned five decades, most recently drew attention for a blunt, sometimes critical assessment of U.S. efforts to train Iraqi police and soldiers. Retired for less than a year, he has been in high demand in Washington for his rich resume.

"I believe we need an experienced leader who can address the regional security challenges comprehensively and at the highest levels and who can provide the full support of our government to the partners as they work to meet their responsibilities," Rice said.

"Building security in the Middle East is the surest path to making peace in the Middle East," Rice said, "and General Jones is the best individual to lead our efforts in this essential endeavor."

Jones, standing at Rice's side for the announcement in the State Department's historic Treaty Room, said he looked forward to returning to the region.

"I look forward to doing whatever I can to assist," Jones said.

Rice said that Jones would report directly to her.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said earlier that the job involves monitoring the development of Palestinian security services. One focus would be how those forces interact with neighboring security services, including Israeli authorities. He said the special envoy would work closely with the U.S. security coordinator for the Palestinians, Lt. Gen. Keith Dayton, who has been working in the region for two years and will remain in his post.

The United States has pledged to hold both sides to account if they do not carry out obligations under the peace talks.

Bush has held Mideast peacemaking at arms' length for most of his nearly seven years in office, arguing that conditions in Israel and the Palestinian territories were not right for a more energetic role. Arab allies, among others, have warned that the Palestinian plight underlies other conflicts and feeds grievances across the Middle East, and have urged the White House to do more.

Bush seemed to answer the criticism Tuesday, giving detailed reasons why the time is now. He said Israeli and Palestinian leaders are ready to make peace, that there is a wider and unifying fight against extremism fed by the Palestinian conflict and that he world understands the urgency of acting now.

Later, in an interview with The Associated Press, Bush spoke of the importance of giving beleaguered Palestinians something positive to look forward to - and he sketched a grim alternative.

Without a hopeful vision, he said, "it is conceivable that we could lose an entire generation - or a lot of a generation - to radicals and extremists. There has to be something more positive. And that is on the horizon today."

The President's fears were reinforced by violent clashes in the West Bank where chaos threatens to undermine Abbas' standing there, just as the international community steps up its support for him in negotiating peace with Israel and his struggle with Hamas militants.

Led by the Islamic militant Hamas, Palestinian hard-liners have been demonstrating all week, rejecting concessions to Israel and declaring that Abbas does not speak for them - outlining the severe challenge Abbas faces at home.

Cautiously optimistic Syrians and other Arabs warned on Wednesday that any U.S. failure to push forward now with aggressive peace negotiations could spark a violent backlash of dashed hopes. Iran predictably blasted the conference as a failure.

In a sign of Iran's anger over the Mideast peace conference, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad scolded Arab nations - implicitly including Iran's ally Syria - that they had made a mistake by attending. He said Israel was doomed to "collapse" and "will not survive."

Tuesday's gathering in Annapolis, Maryland, was widely seen as in part aimed at isolating Iran by rallying moderates in the region behind a new push for an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal. Syria's participation raised speculation that it could be prised out of its alliance with Tehran and militant groups Hamas and Hezbollah - though Damascus has insisted their ties are still strong.

Arab nations had been reluctant to attend the conference, fearing it would be all show without setting a substantive path for peace negotiations - or worse, trap them in a process where the Arabs will have to make concessions without the same from Israel.

A day after the ceremonies, few in the region were completely convinced, but many struck a more hopeful tone. Notably, Syria, an opponent of the U.S. in the region, said the conference could be a turning point - though its comments were in part aimed at defending its attendance in the face of hard-line critics.

All said the United States, which Arabs have long accused of failing to press Israel to take the steps needed for peace, had to play the role of a persistent, unbiased mediator.

Negotiating teams will hold their first session in the region in just two weeks, on Dec. 12, and Olmert and Abbas plan to continue one-on-one discussions they began earlier this year.

[closethippy1]

Retire to the 1967 borders with some changes, let Palestinian refugees return to the new Palestinian state and compensate those Israel won''t allow back, and let the 300,000 Palestinians in Jerusalem have control of their part of that city.
And this idea of having permanent control of the borders, sea coast and airspace, including the water under Palestinian land is simply insane and needs to be put to rest.
And that should do it. Two sovereign states living side by side without the need for the stronger party to keep imposing itself on the weaker one.

[mcvet]

Blah, blah. IHT political cartoon today says it all. GW and sleezy Leezie got their photo op. I six months no one will remember what happened.


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Posted by samrensho at 06:33 AM : Nov 28, 2007
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You are so right! This Incompetent Loser a few still call a President is so desperate for some... ANY success he will do just about anything.

[rlenham-2009]

Regardless of what the political leaders do or any "agreements" that are reached, you will never have peace in the Middle East when the Muslim populations there have had their minds poisoned by Islamic fundamentalists and terrorist groups to hate Israel and, in fact, anyone who does not accept their warped religious views.

[baghdadshere]

You are so right! This Incompetent Loser a few still call a President is so desperate for some... ANY success he will do just about anything.


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Posted by MCVet at 07:12 AM : Nov 28, 2007

You leftist brainwashed_by_democraters_antiwar_propaganda for the past 6 year are hysterical and desperate bcause the surge worked pretty well and Iraq war has turned to be a great success and now peace between Israel and Palestine is another Bushs goallllllllllllll.

[dmhphils]

The Jihadis, the militant Muslims, are basically Nazis in kaffiyahs. They believe that Islam, a radically conservative form of Wahhabi Islam, should own and control the Middle East first, then Europe, the the world.

To them, all who do not bow to their will of thinking should be killed, enslaved, or subjugated. They want to finish the Holocaust, destroy Israel, and purge the world of Jews. This is their mantra!

[dmhphils]

The catch here is recognizing Israel as a state and that it has a right to exist, and this the Palestinians, and Hamas especially, are not willing to do.

[trillion1]

just a desperate attempt by bush thinking he can somehow save the legacy he''s ruined. And the 20%ers. Save your retorts. There is nothing you can do to prove he isn''t. After 5 years in Iraq the best you can come up with is a lull in violence. Big deal.

[skyk-2009]

You leftist brainwashed_by_democraters_antiwar_propa
ganda for the past 6 year are hysterical and desperate bcause the surge worked pretty well and Iraq war has turned to be a great success and now peace between Israel and Palestine is another Bushs goallllllllllllll.



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Posted by BaghdadsHere at 07:17 AM : Nov 28, 2007
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YOU have got to stop drinking that Kool Aid! Anyone who thinks the situation in Iraq is a success for this nation is being rediculous. When one looks at all the lies told and all the deceptions put forward to get us involved in that bloody Civil War, you can only see it for what it is, the BIGGEST POLICY BLUNDER in History. The people who attacked this nation used our involvement in this civil war to rebuild their organization and it has completely distroyed our Military to the point that we have record numbers of troops killing themselves when they come home AND record numbers going AWOL. Bush has NO options but to do what he made fun of before he came to office, negotiate. Trying to spin it any other way is foolish and just won''t work today.

[skyk-2009]

I hate to break this to you but those hated "Liberal''''s" were pointing out this VERY point BEFORE Sir Lies-A-Lot attacked a nation that posed no threat to this one nor had any weapons to use against us. Maybe you should start LISTENING to those hated "Liberals" there sparky...they have been right about ALL this mess from day one... Sieg Heil Bush!!


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Posted by MCVet at 07:43 AM : Nov 28, 2007
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Hey Sarge! Semper Fi! I pulled up the UN speech of General Powell the other day and it amazed me how people like the one you are talking to bought into it. How anyone could buy the lie about Chemical Weapons being made in a canvas covered truck is beyond me. Honestly it seems these people can''t get pass their love for a party of belief. They do not care about the country or the facts. It''s all about saving face for the Party, so I guess you were right all along, they are truly fascist.

[dmhphils]

But, I thought the liberal mentality is supposed to favor human rights, democracy, multiculturalism, diversity etc., but if the Jihad wins, wherever the jihad wins, it is the end of civil rights, human rights, democracy, multiculturalism, diversity etc.

I hope you like the idea that your children, or grandchildren, may live in an Islamic America under the Mullahs and the Sharia, an America that resembles Iran today.

Not to fight the Jihadis wherever they are is coming down on the side of our worst enemy.

[dmhphils]

Can you imagine an OPEC dominated by the Jihadis??

Do you want gas in your car, heating oil this winter?? Do you want the dollar to be worth anything?? You had better hope the Jihad loses and the Islamic Reformists win.

[mike71067]

So how many libs do you think will actually admit that this is a Bush success? I predict they may admit it, but it will be along the lines of, "Yeah, this is a victory for Bush, but he''s the antichrist, so it doesn''t matter".

[closethippy1]

Retire to the 1967 borders with some changes, let the refugees return to the new Palestinian state and compensate those who won''''t be allowed back to Israel, let the 300,000 Palestinians in Jerusalem have their own part of the city and, believe it or not, that should do it.
Violence will go on but at much smaller scale and without the backing of the peace treaty signatories, which would be pretty much the entire Arab world, including Iran.
And as far as borders, sea coast and airspace is concerned it''''d be insane to keep claiming eternal control over them.
Full sovereignity for both sides and forget about it.

[realpatriot1]

mike71067,

Bush is to be commended for trying. If the conference
results in success I''ll give him credit; if it doesn''t, I''ll still give him credit for trying, but he hasn''t won anything at this point.

singinrick the lunatic,

Are you so in love with war and death that you oppose efforts to achieve peace? The only "gang-rape" going on is your gang-rape of the desire for a peace just to all people.

[dmhphils]

Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims.
- Hamas Charter, Article 28

Our primary assumption in our fight against Israel states that the Zionist entity is aggressive from its inception, and built on lands wrested from their owners, at the expense of the rights of the Muslim people. Therefore our struggle will end only when this entity is obliterated. We recognize no treaty with it, no cease fire, and no peace agreements, whether separate or consolidated.
- Hezbollah Program.

[trillion1]

Amazing that even a few people are afraid that some Islamic nuts can take over a nation of 300 million people.

[dmhphils]

The "occupied territories" became occupied because Israel fought and won a defensive war instigated by Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon in June 1967. Clearly the Arab states wanted to destroy Israel before any Arab territories were "occupied."

Six years ago Israel withdrew from Lebanon. Hezbollah responded by lacing the border with close to 15,000 rockets of different types and using them on Israel''s cities.

Last year Israel withdrew from Gaza. The Palestinians responded by using their complete control of Gaza to turn it into a base for repeated rocket fire on Israel''s cities in the south.

[the74blaster]

So how many libs do you think will actually admit that this is a Bush success? I predict they may admit it, but it will be along the lines of, "Yeah, this is a victory for Bush, but he''''s the antichrist, so it doesn''''t matter".

Posted by mike71067

Hopefully the negotiations actually lead somewhere. My only concern is why did it take 7 years for Bush to actually do something in regards to this conflict. I eam to recall Clinton had them talking in 2000 and in effect we have lost 7 years of time while the Bush administration focussed on issues they viewed as having a higher priority.

[neoconrcrazy]

Without a hopeful vision, he said, "it is conceivable that we could lose an entire generation - or a lot of a generation - to radicals and extremists. GWB


An honest assessment of the results of 60 years of zionist apartheid policies.

And proof that israeli policy is responsible for creating terrorism in the ME.

[closethippy1]

The Crusaders lasted 300 years, the Turks lasted 400 years, the British and the French lasted a few decades, and now Israel will be the next one to go.

[neoconrcrazy]

when all Israel has done has been defend herself from their agression since 1948. singrick

that''s complete fantasy!

Read the israeli historian Benny Morris - the 1948 israeli explusion of over 750''000 palestinians was a planned military action designed to garner more land. These zionist policies continue to today and the reason for terrorism in ME.

Your statement does not correspond to historial fact.

[realpatriot1]

singinrick,

I was just being honest, I do think you''re a lunatic just as you we''re being honest when you told me last night that you think I''m taken over by the devil(that was real nice too!).

In case you are unaware, Hamas & Hezballah & Al Quaeda
weren''t invited and Ahbinnutjob is sideline window dressing. The negotiations are between the leader of Israel and the leader of West Bank Palestinians. As feelfree has pointed out, the elected representatives
of Palestine will not be there because they refuse to commit to the existence of Israel which means they are not committed to peace.

Your maniacal ramblings about gang rapes and Islamic Jihad are irrelevant to this conference and that''s why I called you a lunatic. I think that''s how your acting.

[neoconrcrazy]

demographically israel is doomed. 10 palestinians are born for every israeli. immigration is negative - no one wants to live in a walled off prison. if israel does not dramatically change her apartheid policies, the place will become worse than it already is.

[closethippy1]

"In case you are unaware, Hamas & Hezballah & Al Quaeda weren''''t invited..."
Posted by realpatriot1

Why in the world would Hezbollah and AlQaeda be invited to this meeting???
If anyone should have been invited is Hamas who won the Palestinian 2006 elections after they asked Bush for permission to run and Bush gave them the green light without any warnings whatsoever about boycotts and embargoes.
If Olmert can go to this meeting even though he has a maniac in his cabinet who keeps calling for ethnic cleansing, then Hamas who is much more reasonable than that should have been invited.

[neoconrcrazy]

The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947-1949, 1988
Morris argues that the 700,000 Palestinians who fled their homes in 1947 left mostly due to Israeli military attacks, but also due to fear of impending Israeli attack, fear of being caught up in fighting, and expulsions, but not as the result of an expulsion policy. This was at the time a controversial position, as the official position in Israel had been that the Palestinians left voluntarily or after pressure and encouragement from Palestinian or outside Arab leaders. At the same time, Morris documents atrocities by the Israelis, including suspected cases of rape and torture.

The book shows a map of 228 empty Palestinian villages, and attempts to explain why the villagers left. In 41 villages, he writes that the inhabitants were expelled by military forces; in another 90 villages, that the inhabitants panicked because of attacks on other villages, and fled. In six villages, he writes, the inhabitants left under instructions from local Palestinian authorities. He was unable to find out why another 46 villages were abandoned.
Benny Morris, israeli historian

[radiob-2009]

I was just being honest, I do think you''''re a lunatic just as you we''''re being honest when you told me last night that you think I''''m taken over by the devil(that was real nice too!).
Posted by realpatriot1


Wow, Is it time to call Father Flannagan? A mass exorcism starting at the white house and the congress. Or perhahps a good old flogging. Perhaps will work a little magic.

[realpatriot1]

singinrick,

Apparently past Israeli governments also believed in Hadith law becuase they signed onto peace aggreements they subsequently violated. This is a new Israeli and a new Palestinian government in a new strategic and political situation. By your logic there''s no alternative to non-stop war until every Muslim wheter Jihadist or not is dead. That will take a long time and God won''t be on your side.

Again, I must point out to you that the Jihadists aren''t part of this process. They oppose this process and success at peace is the best way to defeat them.

[neoconrcrazy]

"Of course they refuse to commit to the existence of Israel! "


how about once, just once, israel commits itself to the existence of Palestine !

(seeing as they stole most of it, it shouldn''t be that hard!)

[radiob-2009]

Israel will not be defeated, ever again.


Did you miss the part in Revelations where they are "defeated " followed by peace, followed by the anti christ?

[rokero69]

Singingdi.ck is still here bothering everyone???

Isnt there a cow pasture you need to look after in Cibolo??

[neoconrcrazy]

here how it works in israel:

oldmutt signs a two-state solution, gives back the stolen land, gives back east jerusalem, stops settlements -

goes home, gets shot by some jewish radical whose waiting for the 2nd coming - and the hwole mess starts over again.

Just like Rabin - the jewish radicals are 10x worse than your average palestinian.

Why didn''t Arafat get shot in the 40 years he headed the PLO ?

[starleo146]

Posted by radiob at 09:04 AM : Nov 28, 2007


Good Morning Radiob, Real Patriot

[realpatriot1]

singinrick,

Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways. I will try harder to follow your stellar example of graciously accepting the viewpoints of others.

However, I will not stick a sock in it until you show me the way.

[mudrose-2009]

Tens of thousands of Hamas supporters chanted "Death to America" in a Gaza City rally. The marchers raised their index fingers heavenward in a sign of Islamic devotion, as they denounced the Annapolis conference as a sellout of Palestinian dreams.

The Essence of Palestinian dreams - death to Israel and Death to America. Obviously they will always be willing to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Did you miss the part in Revelations where they are "defeated " followed by peace, followed by the anti christ?
Posted by radiob

Did you know that military strategists never include military battles that the Israelis win? Did you know why? Because there is no logic to how the Israelis win wars. Military strategists have given up on trying to figure it out. Just thought you might want to include that in your repertoire, too.

[klifton2-2009]

Don''t be deceived by rhetoric about what two war criminals can do to bring about peace. It is not in the blood of these war mongering men to bring peace. In the twilight years of their power, they talk about peace when collectively, they brought miseries, death, and destruction to millions. I wish peace would come to that part of the world, but it will not happen certainly not by these men. It is like 2 foxes making peace with a hen in a hen house. The Palestinians have a right to have a homeland just as the Jews have the right to their own. But depriving the other with the support of a war criminal is not the way of going about it. Even if the Palestinians do eventually have their homeland, it would be under unrealistic and unreasonable terms that would fuel another century of violence. Meanwhile, the mayhem continues.

[dmhphils]

And here is what Hamas leader Khaled Meshal had to say at the Al-Marabat Mosque in Damascus, broadcast on al-Jazeera:

We say to the West that you have been beaten in Palestine and the defeat has already begun. Israel will be vanquished, and all those who have supported and continue to support it will also be vanquished. America will be defeated in Iraq. The nation of Muhammad will triumph in Palestine and Iraq and on all Arab and Muslim soil. Tomorrow, our nation will rule the world; this is a fact. Tomorrow, we will rule the world.

[b-easy63]

Let''s see...

1. Super release of palestinians --BEEN DONE BEFORE. Later Israel either rounds up a lot more for imprisonment or kills a lot.

2. Freeze of new Israeli construction on the West Bank--BEEN DONE BEFORE. Later, the freeze thaws and Israel steals more Palestinian land and builds even more settlements.

3. Participation of the oil biggees in the conference. BEEN DONE BEFORE. Later, after nothing is decided, promises are half made and everyone realizes they are on the political treadmill, running real hard and fast and getting no where, the ME leaves in disgust (but not without a few days of singing the praises of the meetings and proclaiming some small progress.

In other words, so far, Bush is batting a big FAT ZERO and is rehashing the same tactics and old ground that makes for great photo ops but does little to fix the true problem:
A. Israel exists on land given to her by a country who did not own it and did not respect or recognize who was living there....for reparations for a war that no ME country was involved in.

B. So much loss of life on both sides with lots of blood vendettas--not to be solved by jobs, money for a few pets or a few houses.

Same pig, different lipstick--same joke of a result. Note to the US Prez: neither Jews or Moslems like pig.

[excoachken]

They might be talking about the Middle East, but this is really just another Bush Snow Job!

[mudrose-2009]

With Rice and Bush involved unfortunately there is no hope :(
Posted by jh6379

Really? Well seems to me that Bush/Rice got a whole Arab Summit together unlike the Clintoid who butted heads together thinking he could get Barak and Arafat to sit down and really talk peace. Why the only one not in attendance here was IRAN and his screaming fool of a President. Besides if there wasn''t so much corruption in the Palestinian government then and now, maybe the people of Palestine would have a booming economy and a better life. Instead they resent the fact that a tiny little country next door who has been in the neighborhood in far shorter time than they is prosperous. Now what''s wrong with this picture?

[realpatriot1]

singinrick,

I won''t take the evolution and secular Christian bait with you today but let me clear about tolerance of the viewpoints of others.

I''m not always as tolerant as I should be and no one on here is, but I think I reach out to others far more than you. That''s just my opinion.

I said the article was irrelevant not because it was your viewpoint or because it was written by a Jew, I said it was irrelevant to the negotiation underway and I explained clearly how I came to that conclusion.

If you choose to disregard my viewpoint that''s fine with me, but I still have a right to my opinion too.

[b-easy63]

Two sovereign states living side by side without the need for the stronger party to keep imposing itself on the weaker one.

Posted by closethippy1 at 06:51 AM : Nov 28, 2007


You missed a lot (which is why this won''t do it) like the fact that the Palestinian land grab was not just done in 1967, Israel continues it to this very day. Let''s see, a foreign government takes your city and throws you out, steals the home that was in your family for the past 200 or 300 years and maybe jails you for years for protesting, then they can give you a few dollars years later, issue an apology for raping your wife and killing your kids--and all is square? if you couldn''t stomach it--why should the Palestinians? What do you suggest to assuage the pain, grief and rage for all of the deaths on both sides? Here''s a clue--there is no amount of money to fix that. Not in Palestine, not in Iraq. Some things money Can''t buy and therefore can''t repair.

[mudrose-2009]

My Policy would work.....
Id Get NASA to find onother Planet for Christians and Jews,,
id dismantle all of Jerusalem and ship it out to this new planet, and Everyone else would live happily ever after........
Posted by rokero69

Too expensive. Move the discontents instead.

[b-easy63]

The catch here is recognizing Israel as a state and that it has a right to exist, and this the Palestinians, and Hamas especially, are not willing to do.

Posted by noseonurface at 07:35 AM : Nov 28, 2007


Especially since Israel the "state" wants the right to kidnap, kill, torture and steal their land with impunity and all that America and Israel want is for the Palestinians to forgive any/all attacks and allow Israel to keep the choice bits of land they took and ..oh yeah, be willing to be exploited for labor, dictated to for government and occassionally attacked just for old times sake.

The reason the talks always fail is that Israel and America seek to impose the status quo--not only with Israel existing but with Palestinians agreeing to kissing Israel''s azz for eternity. But unlike in Iraq, Bush and others have had a hard time finding the perfect collaborator who could convince his people that his interests and theirs coincides

[dmhphils]

Posted by b-easy63 at 09:36 AM : Nov 28, 2007
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Nobody said Israel was perfect. However, the demonic picture of Israel that Palestinian propaganda has been trying to sell is a product of deception. In their efforts to portray Israel as the reincarnation of Nazi Germany, the Palestinians have engaged in distortion, exaggeration, and outright lies. In fact, their public relations efforts are so well organized and funded that they amount to nothing less than a disinformation campaign. It is an attempt to rewrite history.

[rokero69]

http://fr.youtube.com/user/singinrick


jejejejejej


jhejejejejej oh noooo whyd i go there again....
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[realpatriot1]

The reason that middle east peace talks often fail is becuase of the types of hardened positions and historical blame games played by both sides and represented on this site by those supporting and condemning Israel.

Peace requires accomodation by both sides and a mutual willingness to put the past behind and look forward.

That''s not the end of the process but it is the starting point of serious peacemaking.

[dmhphils]

The "occupied territories" became occupied because Israel fought and won a defensive war instigated by Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon in June 1967. Clearly the Arab states wanted to destroy Israel before any Arab territories were "occupied."

Six years ago Israel withdrew from Lebanon. Hezbollah responded by lacing the border with close to 15,000 rockets of different types and using them on Israel''s cities.

Last year Israel withdrew from Gaza. The Palestinians responded by using their complete control of Gaza to turn it into a base for repeated rocket fire on Israel''s cities in the south.

Most Israelis do not want to be occupiers.

[radiob-2009]

Good Morning Radiob, Real Patriot


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Posted by starleo146

Good morning to you Starleo I had to take of some errands before work, sorry about the late response.

[rokero69]

bibles in the Hands of Rednecks is serius Trouble....

[v_1618]

STOP THE SHOW BUSH.. IT''S TIME TO PAY FOR EVRYTHING IN THIS WORLD....