BAGHDAD, Nov. 26, 2007

Iraq Agrees To Long-Term U.S. Presence

Bush-Maliki Deal To Help Form "Enduring Relationship" Including U.S. Military Role In Country

  • Joined via video conference, President George W. Bush in Washington and Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in Baghdad sign the U.S.-Iraq Declaration of Principles for Friendship and Cooperation, which sets the foundation for an Photo

    Joined via video conference, President George W. Bush in Washington and Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in Baghdad sign the U.S.-Iraq Declaration of Principles for Friendship and Cooperation, which sets the foundation for an "enduring relationship" between the two countries and will ensure a U.S. presence in Iraq for the long term.  (White House Photo/Eric Draper)

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(CBS/AP)  President Bush on Monday signed a deal setting the foundation for a potential long-term U.S. troop presence in Iraq, with details to be negotiated over matters that have defined the war debate at home - how many U.S. forces will stay in the country, and for how long.

The agreement between Mr. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki confirms that the United States and Iraq will hash out an "enduring" relationship in military, economic and political terms.

CBS News' Pete Gow in Baghdad reports the proposals are to offer the U.S. a continued military presence in Iraq, as well as favorable business interests (such as investment opportunities for American companies), in return for guarantees to Iraq's future security.

Lieutenant General Douglas Lute told White House reporters the shape and size of any long-term military presence will be determined in negotiations planned for next year. CBS News White House correspondent Peter Maer reports that, according to Lute, today's agreement sets the agenda for those talks, with a completion goal of July 2008, when the U.S. intends to finish withdrawing the five combat brigades sent in 2007 as part of the current troop "surge."

"What U.S. troops are doing, how many troops are required to do that, are bases required, which partners will join them - all these things are on the negotiating table," said Lute, President Bush's adviser on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The proposal underlines how the United States and Iraq are exploring what their relationship might look like once the U.S. significantly draws down its troop presence. It comes as a Democratic Congress - unsuccessfully, so far - prods Mr. Bush to withdraw troops faster than he wants.

The "declaration of principles" was discussed in a secret meeting of Iraq's Parliament today, Gow reports, and was later signed by President Bush and al-Maliki during a secure video conference Monday morning.

Al-Maliki, in a televised address, said his government would ask the United Nations to renew the mandate for the multinational force for one final time with its authorization to end in 2008.

The U.S.-Iraq agreement will replace the present U.N. mandate regulating the presence of the U.S.-led forces in Iraq. Al-Maliki said the agreement provides for U.S. support for the "democratic regime in Iraq against domestic and external dangers."

It also would help the Iraqi government thwart any attempt to suspend or repeal a constitution drafted with U.S. help and adopted in a nationwide vote in 2005. That appeared to be a reference to any attempt to remove the government by violence or in a coup.

Al-Maliki said the renewal of the multinational forces' mandate was conditional on the repeal of what he called restrictions on Iraqi sovereignty introduced in 1990 by the U.N. Security Council to punish Iraq for invading neighboring Kuwait.

The new agreement would not signal an end to the U.S. mission here. But it could change the rules under which U.S. soldiers operate and give the Iraqis a greater role in determining their mission.

Two senior Iraqi officials familiar with the issue say Iraq's government will embrace a long-term U.S. troop presence in return for U.S. security guarantees as part of a strategic partnership. The two officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the subject is sensitive, said U.S. military and diplomatic representatives appeared generally favorable, subject to negotiations on the details, which include preferential treatment for American investments.

Preferential treatment for U.S. investors could provide a huge windfall if Iraq can achieve enough stability to exploit its vast oil resources. Such a deal would also enable the United States to maintain leverage against Iranian expansion at a time of growing fears about Tehran's nuclear aspirations.

The framework Mr. Bush approved outlines broad principles, such as that both countries will support Iraq's economic institutions, and help its government train Iraqi security forces to provide stability for all Iraqis. Lute said "all major national leaders of the existing Iraqi government" have committed to it.

"The basic message here should be clear: Iraq is increasingly able to stand on its own; that's very good news, but it won't have to stand alone," said Lute, who rarely holds televised briefings.

He said it is too soon to tell what the "shape and size" of the U.S. military commitment will look like, including military bases.

The Iraqi officials said that under the proposed formula, Iraq would get full responsibility for internal security and U.S. troops would relocate to bases outside the cities. Iraqi officials foresee a long-term presence of about 50,000 U.S. troops, down from the current figure of more than 160,000.

In other developments:

  • Shiite legislators on Monday denounced a draft bill to ease curbs on ex-Saddam Hussein loyalists in government services, dampening hopes of progress for the U.S.-backed legislation aimed at promoting national reconciliation.

  • Masked gunmen stormed the family home of a pro-Baath journalist and killed 11 of his relatives, colleagues said Monday. Dhia al-Kawaz, editor of the Jordan-based Asawat al-Iraq news agency, was in Jordan when his sisters, their husbands and children were reportedly killed in Baghdad. According to the news agency's Web site, witnesses said more than five masked gunmen broke into the home and opened fire, then planted a bomb inside. "Sectarian militias killed 11 family members of Dhia al-Kawaz," the agency's statement said, apparently referring to Shiite death squads that frequently target minority Sunnis and their supporters.

  • At least two people - a civilian and a policeman - were killed Monday in separate drive-by shootings by gunmen on motorcycles in the predominantly Shiite city of Kut, 100 miles southeast of Baghdad, police said.

  • Iraq's most influential Shiite politician said Sunday that the U.S had not backed up claims that Iran is fueling sectarian violence, underscoring a wide gap on the issue between Washington and the Shiite-led Baghdad government. The Americans have long accused the Iranians of arming and training Shiite militias. "These are only accusations raised by the multinational forces and I think these accusations need more proof," Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, leader of the Supreme Islamic Iraq Council, told reporters.



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    by realpatriot1 November 26, 2007 12:36 PM PST
    Here''s the deal, you defend our government forever while we ignore all progress toward democracy and power sharing.
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    by denn034 November 26, 2007 3:23 PM PST
    The Democrats won''t let that happen.
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    by gretagreen November 26, 2007 3:36 PM PST
    Dear USA:
    Just keep sending me money.
    Love,
    Al Maliki
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    by rokero69 November 26, 2007 3:45 PM PST
    sick, sick, man...............
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    by smirk5 November 26, 2007 3:49 PM PST
    BAGHDAD, Iraq %u2014 Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Thursday he believed Iraqi forces would be ready by June 2007 to take full control of security in Iraq, an issue on which he pressed President Bush during their meeting in Amman, Jordan.

    "I can say that Iraqi forces will be ready, fully ready to receive this command and to command its own forces, and I can tell you that by next June our forces will be ready," al-Maliki said in an interview with ABC News.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,233178,00.html
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    by v_1618 November 26, 2007 3:54 PM PST
    HEY BUSH *** U BAZTARD... YOU''RE THE MOST EVIL PERSON ON HUMAN HISTORY .. I HOPE TO SEND YOU TO HELL WE CAN VOTE FOR THAT . THAT''S SOUNDS GOOD TO ME FOR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY IDIOT...
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    by lowell43 November 26, 2007 3:56 PM PST
    CBS News'' Pete Gow in Baghdad reports the proposals are to offer the U.S. a continued military presence in Iraq, as well as favorable business interests (such as investment opportunities for American companies), in return for guarantees to Iraq''s future security.
    Welcome to Korea II
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    by j-whitman November 26, 2007 3:58 PM PST
    New enemy''''s of the Bush Regime ---- The Pope & the Archbishop of Canterbury
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    by v_1618 November 26, 2007 3:59 PM PST
    VERY VERY INTERESTING STATEMENT MY FRIEND...
    Posted by gretagreen


    Dear USA:
    Just keep sending me money.
    Love,
    Al Maliki
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    by cbs_oliver November 26, 2007 4:02 PM PST
    It is interesting that the CBS news team does not discuss the role of the elected representatives in the Iraqi government regarding this agreement or any agreement.

    Their reporting treats Al-Maliki as if he were validated Dictator.

    That is how he has acted on this matter and on other matters - similar to how an appointed colonial governer might be expected to act.

    My understanding is that the representatives elected to the Iraqi government are given the authority to decide this matter - not Maliki - and they have not done that.

    In fact news reports from other sources indicate that a majority of the elected Iraqi representatives oppose extending the mandate for US occupation.

    The real issue here is the incompetance or willful deceit of CBS reporting.
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    by bluestardad November 26, 2007 4:02 PM PST
    FOR GODS SAKE AMERICA STAND UP!

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    by v_1618 November 26, 2007 4:07 PM PST
    STOP THE GAME...

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    by j-whitman November 26, 2007 4:08 PM PST
    CBS_Oliver,,,, I''m glad I wasn''t the only one who noticed that
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    by displeased November 26, 2007 4:12 PM PST
    Great plan Bush. Making long term arrangements to keep military in Iraq in exchange to providing investment opportunities for American companies. Basically, the American taxpayers will be funding opportunities for a few of your friends. When will the greed end?
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    by v_1618 November 26, 2007 4:14 PM PST
    THANKS BUSH FOR MAKING THE RICH MORE RICHER AND THE POOR MORE POORER U MOTH. ***.ER
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    by brianp55 November 26, 2007 4:17 PM PST
    Longfella:

    Yup. How do you think a guy with his "credentials" and brainpower became President? Keep your eye on the missile defense system he has planned for
    Europe(???). Let''s see who the contractors are. This is one of the, if not THE most flagrant abuses of presidential power in our history and Americans are just sitting there watching it happen.
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    by marcodele November 26, 2007 4:22 PM PST
    "(such as investment opportunities for American companies), in return for guarantees to Iraq''s future security."

    So in other words, Junior thinks he can commit the lives of U.S. soldiers to die in Iraq for business interests into the next century?

    His signature is worthless.
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    by macusweil November 26, 2007 4:24 PM PST
    Long term?

    In that they mean until Jan 2009 when Dr. Ron Paul is sworn in as the next US president. That''s when he''ll sign the executive order pulling out all our troops and boarding up our Vatican-sized embassy in Baghdad.
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    by bareemperor November 26, 2007 4:27 PM PST
    Ahhh, yessssss - -

    Endless Republicon War

    Pentagoons everywhere having multiple wargasms today...
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    by bareemperor November 26, 2007 4:32 PM PST
    The Bu$h legacy:
    Managed the 9/11 atrocity and coverup.
    Lied his way into Iraq for his energy buddies.
    Cut enormous deal for defense industry.
    Retire.
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    by brianp55 November 26, 2007 4:37 PM PST
    I am completely baffled why the media have not jumped on Bushs'' fabrications as a pretext for invading Iraq like a pack of rabid wolves. You rarely hear a murmur about this. It''s obvious that he deceived the American people so that American oil companies could pump Iraqi crude. Why are the media so silent on what is obvous to many of us? Any thoughts?
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    by g-gfather November 26, 2007 4:39 PM PST
    I AM SO ASHAMED OF MY COUNTRY. WHAT IN THE WORLD DO WE TELL OUR CHILDREN, OF OUR COWARDNESS IN LETTING THIS DISGRACE GO ON?? BUSH AND HIS CO-CONSIRATOR IN IRAQ ARE DISTROYING BOTH COUNTRIES. A TYRANNY SO OUTRAGEOUS AS TO COMPEL ALL WHOM VALUE HUMAN DECENCY TO RESPOND WITH ALL MEANS NECESSARY TO PUT AN END TO THIS EVIL. FOR THE CHILDREN......GREATGRANDFATHER. NOW..NOW!!!!!!
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    by rangerdahl November 26, 2007 4:39 PM PST
    I assume all of you that are pissed because this war "was about oil" all rode a bike to work today?...and that your house is heated by wood?...and that you never use plastics of any kind?...get over it, we need the oil and by "we" I mean me and all of you...wake up, ***.
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    by rangerdahl November 26, 2007 4:51 PM PST
    g-father wrote: I AM SO ASHAMED OF MY COUNTRY.

    I''m ashamed of all you sackless, feminine, candy-@sses that call yourselves American men. Act like men and quit cowtowing to the liberal left in this country. Women HATE when we act like sensetive wimps also. They like the bad-boy who is willing to go and fight for something not the punk sits and debates the merits of someone needing a good @ss whipping
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    by displeased November 26, 2007 4:52 PM PST
    get over it, we need the oil and by "we" I mean me and all of you...wake up, ***.
    Posted by rangerdahl

    Unfortunately we do need the oil, right now. What we REALLY need is to make investments to find other sources of energy so oil companies won''t keep dictating our country''s current and future politicians and their screwed up priorities.
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    by cbs_oliver November 26, 2007 4:53 PM PST
    Here is a section from article by Raed Jarrar and Joshua Holland posted on AlterNet on June 5, 2007 which relates to the views of the Iraqi Parliament.

    "The parliament today passed a binding resolution that will guarantee lawmakers an opportunity to block the extension of the U.N. mandate under which coalition troops now remain in Iraq when it comes up for renewal in December. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, whose cabinet is dominated by Iraqi separatists, may veto the measure.
    The law requires the parliament''s approval of any future extensions of the mandate, which have previously been made by Iraq''s prime minister. It is an enormous development; lawmakers reached in Baghdad today said that they do in fact plan on blocking the extension of the coalition''s mandate when it comes up for renewal six months from now."
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    by j-whitman November 26, 2007 5:02 PM PST
    rangerdahl,,,, There are many other logical & diplomatic ways of obtaining oil... What this administration has done was create the biggest world calaminty in our history.

    "It is one thing to take over a territory and then pour energy and resources into administering it and normalising it. Rightly or wrongly, that%u2019s what the British Empire did %u2013 in India, for example. It is another thing to go in on the assumption that a quick burst of violent action will somehow clear the decks and that you can move on and other people will put it back together %u2013 Iraq, for example.%u201D ---- Archbishop of Canterbury
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    by brianp55 November 26, 2007 5:03 PM PST
    Anyone who believes that GW invaded Iraq to secure oil for the comfort of the American people is deluded. He invaded Iraq to secure the oil for American oil companies who will then sell it to the American people....and any other country willing to pay for it. This is the essence of the issue. Yes, we need oil. But we should then explore for it and purchase it on the open market like everybody else. You don''t lie like hell and then proceed to get 4,000+ soldiers killed for the sake of oil company profits.
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    by tbweb November 26, 2007 5:06 PM PST
    One person should not decide this, this is a decision for the American people to make and for Congressional Law Makers to Vote on and approve or disapprove of. With the stroke of a pen from a single person, albeit the U.S. President, this deal is done, amazing! Its this type of individualism, go it alone style of Pres. Bush that has the country up in arms.
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    by jetranger7 November 26, 2007 5:07 PM PST
    I''m was all for taking out that TYRANT Saddam, but, I''m not for the way these morans at the Pentagon and the White house have run this WAR. Its just Ridlicious, the amount of TAX Payer money that has just Dissappeared into somewhere. That and the unrealistic expectations from some morans, up in Washington, that they were just gonna throw ROSES at us,and serve creme pies to our troops, was so outrageously Stupid and Pathetic,where did they get those College Educated idiots that think that stuff !!Its a war, in another country, especially an arab country, that knows very little about us, and they''re like going to be happy,with us, I don''t think so,! Some of those OIL Contracts that were supposed to be going to pay for this war over there, were hi-jacked and sold on the black market too, lets not forget. Just mismanaged by hi ranking Pentagon and White House officials, our forefathers could have done a slight bit better job than this one .
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    by enlightenu November 26, 2007 5:09 PM PST
    rangerdahl,
    Actually I''m pissed because this war was supposed to be about stopping Hussein''s Weapons of Mass Destruction, his support for Bin Laden, uranium cakes from Africa, centrifuge parts, mobile biolabs and rocket launchers, and all the other BS the Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld et al syndicate spewed to get us in there. Now I''m starting to hear, "oh get over it, that was 4 years ago!" These people assume there is a statute of limitations on lies. They assume that America is so jaded that no one has a long term memory. Well I''m an American with a long memory. I hate how our military was misused and abused for the benefit of a special interest group. I hate how he took advantage of Christians to get himself elected, saying whatever it took to identify with them. I hate how he keeps "deciding" policy to keep his plan on track no matter what the cost. And I hate, I really hate, how they are all going to get away with it, because there always will be jackasses like you justifying it all to themselves because they know they are too impotent to do anything about it.
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    by enlightenu November 26, 2007 5:09 PM PST
    rangerdahl,
    Actually I''m pissed because this war was supposed to be about stopping Hussein''s Weapons of Mass Destruction, his support for Bin Laden, uranium cakes from Africa, centrifuge parts, mobile biolabs and rocket launchers, and all the other BS the Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld et al syndicate spewed to get us in there. Now I''m starting to hear, "oh get over it, that was 4 years ago!" These people assume there is a statute of limitations on lies. They assume that America is so jaded that no one has a long term memory. Well I''m an American with a long memory. I hate how our military was misused and abused for the benefit of a special interest group. I hate how he took advantage of Christians to get himself elected, saying whatever it took to identify with them. I hate how he keeps "deciding" policy to keep his plan on track no matter what the cost. And I hate, I really hate, how they are all going to get away with it, because there always will be jackasses like you justifying it all to themselves because they know they are too impotent to do anything about it.
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    by rangerdahl November 26, 2007 5:11 PM PST
    tbweb: the American people need to decide? Most Americans can''t even find North America on a globe let alone know the geopolitical implications of American foreign policy.

    j-whitman: The Archbishop is a Brit, not an American. He needs to butt out. Enough said.
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    by soldat44 November 26, 2007 5:17 PM PST
    I''''m ashamed of all you sackless, feminine, candy-@sses that call yourselves American men. Act like men and quit cowtowing to the liberal left in this country. Women HATE when we act like sensetive wimps also. They like the bad-boy who is willing to go and fight for something not the punk sits and debates the merits of someone needing a good @ss whipping

    Posted by rangerdahl at 04:51 PM : Nov 26, 2007

    ''Lighten up Francis''
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    by j-whitman November 26, 2007 5:17 PM PST
    rangerdahl,,,, You think the Pope should but out too ??
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    by boatdocster November 26, 2007 5:23 PM PST
    This war was always about annexing Iraq and it''s oil...

    Nothing else!

    With the signing of a permanent US presence we are one step closer. Read and remember the history of the state of Hawaii!
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    by tbweb November 26, 2007 5:25 PM PST
    tbweb: the American people need to decide? Most Americans can''''t even find North America on a globe let alone know the geopolitical implications of American foreign policy.

    Posted by rangerdahl at 05:11 PM : Nov 26, 2007,,,

    It doesn''t matter, the U.S. has Congressional Foreign Relations Committees that "are" up to speed and that can education the rest of America on the official particulars. Committing U.S. assets and resources long term in a foreign nation should not be decided by one person. This is the United States of America not the Individual States of America!
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    by trillion1 November 26, 2007 5:25 PM PST
    Perfect example of two goverments that don''t care what their people want.
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    by starleo146 November 26, 2007 5:38 PM PST
    What is it with this administration do they not trust the people they are suppose to represent, over and over Bush and his cronies make decisions that we totally disagree with. LONG TIME STAY IN IRAQ he proves to us every day we have been right all along.
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    by starleo146 November 26, 2007 5:39 PM PST
    I''''''''m ashamed of all you sackless, feminine, candy-@sses that call yourselves American men. Act like men and quit cowtowing to the liberal left in this country. Women HATE when we act like sensetive wimps also. They like the bad-boy who is willing to go and fight for something not the punk sits and debates the merits of someone needing a good @ss whipping

    Posted by rangerdahl at 04:51 PM : Nov 26, 2007
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    by starleo146 November 26, 2007 5:45 PM PST
    I''''''''''''''''m ashamed of all you sackless, feminine, candy-@sses that call yourselves American men. Act like men and quit cowtowing to the liberal left in this country. Women HATE when we act like sensetive wimps also. They like the bad-boy who is willing to go and fight for something not the punk sits and debates the merits of someone needing a good @ss whipping

    Posted by rangerdahl at 04:51 PM : Nov 26, 2007

    Posted by starleo146 at 05:39 PM : Nov 26, 2007
    + report abuse

    sorry my hand was quicker than my eye---Now rangerdahl my response to your statement is WHUUUT!!!! I am a woman and I do not want a bad boy as you say, I hope I am not in a place I have to have my man get up and whip someones arse as you say, good gracious what kind of women do you know.
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    by macusweil November 26, 2007 5:48 PM PST
    "they like the bad-boy who is willing to go and fight for something not the punk sits and debates.."

    Say what did you ever fight for soldat44? Just when did you say your tour of duty in Iraq is over!?

    First of all our brave troops should have never been deployed to Iraq in the first place. We have 30,000+ dead or dismembered soldiers and one trillion dollars missing from the US treasury!! For what? What do we have to show for it except a useless embassy in Baghdad the size of a small city.

    Pathetic right-wing-nuts!!

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    by macusweil November 26, 2007 5:53 PM PST
    sorry wrong wing-nut! was talking about ''rangerdahl'' who must have taken some serious shrapnel to the head while kick''n arse during one of his secret under cover imaginary bad-boy operations.
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    by cbs_oliver November 26, 2007 5:53 PM PST
    From the Iraqi constitution - which apparantly is being ignored again as it was before in regards to the matter of the UN/US occupation of Iraq:

    "Article 70:

    The President of the Republic shall assume the following powers:

    A. To issue a special pardon on the recommendation of the Prime Minister, except for anything concerning private claim and for those who have been convicted of committing international crimes, terrorism, and financial and administrative corruption.

    B. To ratify international treaties and agreements after the approval by the Council of Representatives. Such international treaties and agreements are considered ratified after fifteen days from the date of receipt.

    ......."

    What is happening is that Maliki is assuming dictatorial powers with the encouragement of the US and (sadly) the UN (security council).

    CBS really should give their readers full information.
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    by terrapin78 November 26, 2007 6:04 PM PST
    No Chimp deals will be honored.
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    by wogerwabbit November 26, 2007 6:24 PM PST
    At least our new 51st state has oil... now we can get rid of Texas.
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    by rangerdahl November 26, 2007 6:35 PM PST
    Seemingly, I find myself the sole supporter of the current administration in this posting room. Wow, and I thought CBS was a news organization. Rather, it appears that only President Bush haters frequent it. No wonder CBS, NBC, and ABC post garbage opinions and news...they are keeping their left wing, dillusional, democratic viewers happy. Have you noticed Keith Olberman doing sports more now? That way he will have a job once his show tanks after a democrat gets elected. And, as much as I hate to say it...I hope a democrat gets elected. I don''t know if I could stand four more years of left wing whining and boo-hooing. Besdies, I think it would be so fashionable and progressive to have Nancy and Hillary both running the country. I can;t wait to see what kind of purse they will have at the swearing in.
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    by j-whitman November 26, 2007 6:39 PM PST
    rangerdahl,,,,, You can keep up with calling us Bush haters if you want, but you''ll continue to be wrong... Some took the time to investigate Bush''s record before he came into the office, some of us have exprriance in the militray & countrerterrorism, & some of us are intelligent enough to recognize flat out lies when we are told them -------- What every American hates are Lying Corrupt Politicians Who Damage Our Nation
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    by j-whitman November 26, 2007 6:43 PM PST
    rangerdahl,,,,, If less than 27% of our nation supports Bush does that make the other 73% Bush Haters or good American citizens who care about honor & their country ????
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    by bareemperor November 26, 2007 6:44 PM PST
    ''Seemingly, I find myself the sole supporter of the current administration in this posting room. Wow, and I thought CBS was a news organization. Rather, it appears that only President Bush haters frequent it.''

    What a funny post - the poster is either out of touch with the majority of US citizens, or is baiting hatred. A fascist does not need popular support, just an unlimited budget and willing shills.
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