Nov. 17, 2007

Mingling With The Women To Help Her Man

Can Judi Giuliani Help Soften Rudy's Image?

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(Washingtonpost.com)  By Libby Copeland.

Politics and Judi Giuliani have not always gone well together.

In recent months, as her husband's presidential campaign heated up, Giuliani was pilloried in the New York press as a social climber. A Vanity Fair profile accused her of demanding a separate seat on planes for her Louis Vuitton handbag. The former mayor's campaign started pulling her back from public events.

But as she proved yesterday during a women's fundraiser downtown, Judi Giuliani -- or "Mrs. G," as she called herself -- is most emphatically back.

"I look at these faces and they just energize me," she tells reporters. "I'm beginning to understand what my husband likes about politics."

She starts the event with a 10-minute speech mentioning husband Rudy's "tender heart." (She does look at her notes a lot. She does not, it must be noted, take a cellphone call from her husband in medias res.)

Mrs. G shakes hands until there are no more hands to shake. She poses for a yearbook's worth of pictures with a crowd brought together by the D.C. chapter of Women for Rudy. It's a mid-afternoon chatfest, nice and easy as surrogate appearances go. Then -- much to the surprise of a press aide, who had said Giuliani wouldn't be available for interviews -- she zooms over to chat with two reporters.

"I'm always a little bit nervous" about campaign events, she tells reporters, seeming not nervous at all.

Judi Giuliani, 52, looks far better in person than she does in print -- both literally and metaphorically. It is hard to square her personal presence, which is intensely -- almost fiercely -- amiable, with her reputation for imperiousness. (Did she get a bad rap? Are these traits two sides of the same coin? )

With her broad smile and a flair for the dramatic, she gabs to reporters about her "energizer bunny" husband and their upcoming trip to Miami for a NASCAR race ("We get to go down in the pit!" she says, sounding thrilled). And how every year on Thanksgiving, she and her husband host a breakfast at ESPN Zone in New York for police officers and firefighters affected by the tragedy of Sept. 11, 2001. They're doing it again this year.

It's "one of the things Mrs. G stood firm about," she says, speaking in the third person.

She says the gold elephant brooch she is wearing on her purple suit jacket was a gift from Rudy during their first Christmas together.

That, of course, was a Christmas before they were married, when the mayor was still with his second wife, Donna Hanover. And then came the mayor's news conference to announce they were separating, which came as news to Hanover, and the public spat over whether the mayor's girlfriend should be allowed to visit Gracie Mansion. And then the wedding in 2003, at which she wore a tiara, of all things. And then more recently, the former mayor's son, Andrew, the best man at that wedding, revealed that his relationship with his father was strained, and that "there's obviously a little problem that exists between me and his wife."

All of which may matter some in the long run, especially if Giuliani gets the Republican nomination, but seems to matter not at all right now, in the City Club of Washington at Franklin Square. This is a friendly crowd made up mostly of well-dressed, handsome women, who call the former nurse and philanthropic fundraiser a "humanitarian." They like her, and she loves them. She draws enthusiasm from their enthusiasm.

"Who starts out their political career at the presidential level?" said Rudy-and-Judi supporter and friend Susan Molinari, the former New York congresswoman. "It's got to be very daunting."

And, as if to inoculate herself from criticism, Judi says, "I am new to politics" -- once, twice, three times. But there is no doubt she knows how to work a crowd.

How do you soften the image of a fellow like Rudy Giuliani, who has nurtured a reputation as tough on crime, tough on terror, tough-tough-tough? (And what about that temper! So not Midwestern.) As Molinari points out, if the former mayor becomes the Republican nominee and New York Sen. Hillary Clinton clinches the Democratic vote, Giuliani will need to appeal to women in a big way. And if so, Judi Giuliani will find herself doing a lot more events like this one.

Massaging the image. Making him more . . . accessible to women.
Thus, Giuliani tells the crowd not only about her husband's strength on national security issues, but of his more personal side.

"The Rudy I know combines a tough mind and a tender heart," she says. "He loves life and he loves laughter."

Really. Rudy. Tender heart?

She tells the crowd that "Rudy and I" have made trips to "oh gosh, over 37 countries," and that her husband has an "intellectual curiosity" and an ability to listen and "have his mind changed."

And after her speech, she and Molinari lock arms.

Judi Giuliani has had a tough summer, but "she's back and she did beautifully," Molinari says.

"The reality of the matter is politics is a tough game," Giuliani herself says when asked about the criticism she's received. She and Rudy endured 9/11, she says, and his bout with prostate cancer.

"My definition of rough is probably a little bit different from yours."
That broad smile never leaves her face for long.

© 2007 The Washington Post Company
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by oeangus November 17, 2007 2:10 PM PST
A separate plane seat for her handbag?? Just what the Whitehouse needs: another complete lunatic.
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by standlee5 November 17, 2007 2:25 PM PST
I just can''t see this woman as first lady. Can the ex be first lady.
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by prinzowhales November 17, 2007 2:25 PM PST
What a stupid little article about nothing...did Ms. Copeland write for ''Seinfeld'' before coming to the POST?
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by sparks224 November 17, 2007 3:04 PM PST
Another content free story from the Corporate Media.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 3:54 PM PST
HOPE FOR AMERICA: PRESIDENT RON PAUL

-- No more meddling in other country''s political affairs
-- No more aggressive military actions overseas
-- No more torture prisons
-- No more pseudo-wars like the "War on Drugs"
-- No more IRS and unconstitutional income taxes
-- No more Federal Reserve (the group of private banks which owns our government)
-- No more erosion of Social Security to pay for militarization
-- No more U.N. (one world government) participation
-- No more NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO or GATT
-- No more North American Union
-- No more federal gun control laws
-- No more illegal aliens pouring-in over our country''s borders
-- No more illegal aliens allowed to roam freely in our streets
-- No more national ID cards (Real ID Act)
-- No more government invasion of your privacy
-- No more federal Laws which are not authorized by The Constitution
-- No more federal erosion of State sovereignty
-- No more unlimited federal government

They don''t call him "Dr. No" for no reason. The Doctor is in! Join us in this 21st Century political revolution at ronpaul2008.com

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men"
- Samual Adams

"Those who expect to reap the blessing of freedom must undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
- Thomas Paine

"Ron Paul doesn''t represent your Father''s school of political thought. He represents your Founding Fathers."
- Me
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 3:55 PM PST
WERE HAVING A TEA PARTY! YOU''RE INVITED
As we all know, freedom isn''t free in this country. Therefore, in the wake of our successful fundraising event of November 5th, in which we all came together to raise $4.2 million dollars for Ron Paul''s campaign, we''ve set yet another date for an even bigger fundraiser. This one will take place during on December 16th: a very important date for people who love freedom and hate tyranny to ring the Liberty Bell, and let our sold-out, globalist, political ****** and their mainstream media enablers know that good Americans are mad as hell, and that we''re not going to take it anymore. December 16th is the 224th aniversary of The Boston Tea Party: an act of protest by the American colonists against the tyranny of Great Britain where the Sons of Liberty boarded British ships and dumped crates of tea overboard into Boston Harbor. It was a key event which helped to spark the American Revolution, and we hope this event will, likewise, add additional spark to our own 21st Century political revolution to restore peace, prosperity and freedom to our Republic by helping elect a President whose record of adherance to The Constitution is unmatched by anyone in American politics. Please join us this December 16th for the largest one-day political donation event in history. Our goal is to bring together 100,000 people to donate $100 each, creating a one day donation total of $10,000,000. The time to act is now. The time for Ron Paul is NOW! TeaParty07.com
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 3:56 PM PST
RON PAUL WILL RESTORE U.S. SOVEREIGNTY
All of the trade deals and world government organizations, which all of the presidential candidates support (except Ron Paul), such as the ICC, NAFTA, GATT, WTO, and CAFTA, are all a major threat to our nation''s sovereignty. They transfer power from our government to unelected foreign elites. The ICC wants to try our soldiers as war criminals. Both the WTO and CAFTA could force Americans to get a prescription to take herbs and vitamins. The WTO has forced Congress to change our laws to meet their needs, and not our own. If anything, the WTO makes trade relations worse by giving foreign competitors a new way to attack U.S. jobs. The NAFTA superhighway, being built by a Spanish company, is just one part of a plan to erase our borders and create the North American Union, a single nation State like the EU, out of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, with a new, unelected bureaucracy and money system. Forget about controlling immigration under the NAU scheme. There won''t be any borders anymore, or a free America. Our limited, constitutional government will be gone forever. Let''s not forget the UN either. It wants to impose a direct Carbon Tax on us. Ron Paul successfully fought this move in Congress last year, but if we are going to stop ongoing attempts of this world government body to rule over us, we need someone in the White House who knows how to say "No." We must withdraw from any organizations or treaty that infringes upon our nation''s sovereignty.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 3:57 PM PST
RON PAUL KNOWS HOW TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. Ron Paul has a plan: (1.) Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals. (2.) Enforce Visa rules. Immigration officials must track Visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their Visa or otherwise violates U.S. Law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired Visas. (3.) No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That''s a lot of people to reward for breaking our Laws. (4.) No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules, but taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services. (5.) End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong. (6.) Pass true immigration reform. The current system, and those proposed by ALL other candidates, is incoherent and unfair, and would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 3:58 PM PST
THE SKINNY ON GIULIANI:
Cintra-Zachry, a company owned by the King of Spain, is currently building the NAFTA superhighway through the middle of our country, and they to get to keep the tolls. Giuliani''s Law firm, Bracewell & Giuliani represents that Spanish company. Another Giuliani business, Giuliani Capitol Advisors was once a partner of Cintra-Zachry, and owned the rights to collect the tolls from the Indiana and Chicago sections of the highway before they sold that interest to an Australian company called Macquarie recently. Bracewell & Giuliani represents some of the biggest multi-national oil, utility and financial corporations in the world. With that have come the connections that Giuliani has been able to tap into in order to fund his campaign. Not only is Giuliani the consummate globalist who actively sells-off our country to foreigners, he''s also the only GOP candidate who supports abortion. Also unnerving, given Giuliani''s personal experience on 9/11, is his defense of open borders, and the fact that he publicly welcomed illegals to come to New York where he would provide them with sanctuary. We should have seen it coming when Mayor Giuliani enacted Special Order 40 in 1994, ordering NYC cops to stop checking the immigration status of suspects caught violating the Law. Giulliani also supports creation of the North American Union, which will forever end our nation''s sovereignty and limited constitutional form of government forever. Vote for a REAL AMERICAN--Ron Paul.
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by valentin73 November 17, 2007 4:59 PM PST
to people like peaceprophet:
who the h*ll do you think you bombarding us readers
with your book length comments. did anybody ever tell you sir/ma''am to keep it short and simple. I have no interest in your pile of mud and what you sermon us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 5:07 PM PST
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
- Josef Stalin
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by sparks224 November 17, 2007 5:11 PM PST
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
- Josef Stalin
Posted by PeaceProphet

We%u2019re approaching a conservative utopia: all guns and no ideas.

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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 5:20 PM PST
POLLSTERS ARTIFICIALLY SKEWING RESULTS
Ron Paul breaks fundraising records, wins phone-in and Internet polls, yet why are his national poll numbers so low? A Zogby pollee recently revealed what happened to him when he took part in their national, 2008 presidential election poll. Upon confirming Ron Paul as his choice for President, the poll then branched out into a myriad of bizarre and intrusive questions which would discourage most people from completing the process, and thereby making their vote for Ron Paul null and void. "The first part of the poll was about which candidate one prefers, with candidates from both parties being available as choices. Great! However, after I finished answering positively for Ron Paul, the poll got very interesting," he writes. "As anyone who is familiar with how polls work is aware, polls are branching in their structure. Answers you give to one section of the poll will determine what questions you will receive in the next section of the poll." The pollee then relates his confusion about the fact that the poll threw up 20 questions about cooking rice before another extensive set of questions regarding personal sexual behavior. "This went on for a number of pages and was rather intrusive," he said. "It dealt with sexual positions, sexual fantasies, sexual preferences and similar intimate subjects. Of course neither rice cooking or sexual behavior have anything to do with presidential elections or politics in general. Or at least it shouldn''t!"
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 5:24 PM PST
CBS NEWS CONDUCTING RIGGED POLLS
Most people can see right through the prejudice CBS News obviously has towards Ron Paul. In the few times they''ve covered him at all, I''m suprised they didn''t have one of their graphics artists Photoshop some devil horns on top of his head in that worst ever photograph they always use of him. CBS obviously thinks that if they pretend Paul isn''t a top-tier GOP candidate, then their readers and viewers will eventually think so too. Whenever they are forced to do a story on Paul, because some other mainstream source is covering him for some reason, the fact that their editors work overtime to slant their stories in such a way as to either marginalize his accomplishment, or present Paul in the most negative light possible, is obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence. "What about their polls?," you ask? As far as the CBS News poll is concerned, they don''t even include Paul on the list of GOP candidates which pollees can choose from, and then afterwards, report to you that Paul doesn''t even rank in their final tally. Ron Paul is getting major grass roots support nationwide. He has over 62,380 meetup group members in 1,175 Groups from 1,004 cities nationwide, with another 7,197 people more folks just waiting to hear when a new meetup group will start-up near them. He''s won ALL of the viewer phone-in polls in ALL of the GOP debates he''s been in, and has raised more money ($4.2 million) in one day than any other GOP candidate ever. Go Ron Go!
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 5:25 PM PST
MORE TROOPS AND VETERANS SUPPORT RON PAUL
On Veteran''s Day, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul today addressed a crowd of over 5,000 enthusiastic veterans and supporters in Philadelphia. The Veteran''s Day weekend rally took place at Independence Mall. Thousands of veterans and their friends and families heard country music superstar Rockie Lynne open the event for the Texas congressman. John Holland, the founder of a leading advocacy organization for troops, veterans, and POW/MIAs, delivered an enthusiastic endorsement of Congressman Paul, before the congressman addressed the crowd. The rally coincided with the launch of the Veterans for Paul Coalition, which is composed of hundreds of war veterans. "Dr. Paul''s support among veterans is extremely high," said Paul campaign spokesman Joe Seehusen. "These great patriots who have fought for our country know that only Dr. Paul''s foreign policy of peace and secure borders can guarantee true national security, and they want him fighting for our country''s freedom." Congressman Paul was himself a Captain in the Air Force who served as a flight surgeon during the "illegal and totally unnecessary" Vietnam war. He receives more campaign contributions from former and active military and military affiliates than any of the other 2008 presidential candidates.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 5:29 PM PST
RON PAUL WINS STRAW POLL IN WASHINGTON STATE
Texas congressman Ron Paul won the South Sound Ronald Reagan Republican Club (SSRRRC) 2008 presidential primary straw poll with 38 percent of the vote at their October 26 meeting in Pierce County, Washington. This is his third SSRRRC win; Dr. Paul won their August and September polls with 28 and 48 percent respectively. Fred Thompson placed second in all three polls. This latest one of many straw poll successes nationwide for the GOP presidential candidate and leading war opponent. "Dr. Paul enjoys great grassroots support in Washington and across the nation," said Paul spokesman Jesse Benton. "His numerous straw poll victories show that Americans embrace his message of freedom, peace, and prosperity, and are ready to put a real Republican in the White House." Dr. Paul''s September 14 rally in Seattle, Washington drew over 1,300 supporters.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 5:37 PM PST
RON PAUL WINS MISSOURI STRAW POLL
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul continued his trend of straw poll victories in Springfield, Missouri on October 30. The Texas congressman placed first in the Springfield Metropolitan Republican Club straw poll, in the conservative Ozarks region. He earned more than 77 percent of the vote, polling higher than all his opponents combined. Mike Huckabee placed second with 10 percent. 110 Republican Club members participated in the poll. This is just one in a string of straw poll successes for Congressman Paul. A straw-poll frontrunner, Congressman Paul has the largest number of supporters of any presidential candidate on popular internet social network sites Meetup.com and Youtube.com. "Dr. Paul is bringing the Republican Party together," said Paul campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "Supporters in Missouri and nationwide know that only Dr. Paul can beat Hillary in 2008." The Springfield Metropolitan Republican Club is a Republican grassroots organization in Greene County, Missouri.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 5:41 PM PST
RON PAUL WINS GOP STRAW POLL IN FRESNO
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul won the November 15th straw poll at the Salute to Republican Leaders fundraiser hosted by the Fresno County Republican Party. Congressman Paul won with 35 percent, beating Rudy Giuliani, who garnered 33 percent of the vote. This win attests to the strength of the Paul campaign in California. There are over 140 registered Ron Paul volunteers in Fresno among thousands of registered volunteers throughout the Golden State. "Across California, the Paul campaign is energizing new voters to register Republican and is re-registering disaffected Republicans who are excited about Ron Paul''s candidacy and his support of traditional Republican principles," said Jeff Greenspan, Ron Paul''s regional coordinator. In his address to the Fresno County Republican Party, Greenspan said, "We are pleased to support Republican party ideals in California, the Republican party of Fresno County, and the party of Ronald Reagan." Of 41 recent straw polls across the U.S., Ron Paul has won 21, with numerous second and third place finishes.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 5:42 PM PST
RON PAUL CAN WIN THE ELECTION
Ron Paul can win the GOP nomination. If he does, I predict a landslide victory in November of 2008. Even the oddsmakers in Vegas aren''t willing to discount his chances. They''re currently giving him 2:1 odds to win against Hitlery if he gets the nomination. Romney, McCain and the globalist, sell-out Giuliani aren''t given anything better than a 45:1 chance of winning if they get the GOP nod. All it takes is for formerly apathetic individuals to get off the couch and nominate him in their local Republican primary or caucus process. Political parties are nothing more than tools. Those who read the manual and use the tools properly will win the nomination for their candidate. For the past 20 years, many good people have stayed at home and accepted whatever candidate they let others select for them. This year, those people are learning how to use their vote to make a difference. In order to do so, you must participate in the Republican primary election or caucus process in your county, precinct or district. Nothing else matters. If we do this, we win. If not, we lose. The GOP has been suffering from declining participation for decades. Fewer than 10% of registered voters have ALL the power because they actually participate. Now the remaining 90% must surge to use their vote as a tool to bring about positive and long overdue political change in this country. The time to act is now. The time for political revolution has come. The time for Ron Paul is NOW!
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 5:52 PM PST
RON PAUL WILL RESTORE U.S. SOVEREIGNTY
All of the trade deals and world government organizations, which all of the presidential candidates support (except Ron Paul), such as the ICC, NAFTA, GATT, WTO, and CAFTA, are all a major threat to our nation''s sovereignty. They transfer power from our government to unelected foreign elites. The ICC wants to try our soldiers as war criminals. Both the WTO and CAFTA could force Americans to get a prescription to take herbs and vitamins. The WTO has forced Congress to change our laws to meet their needs, and not our own. If anything, the WTO makes trade relations worse by giving foreign competitors a new way to attack U.S. jobs. The NAFTA superhighway, being built by a Spanish company, is just one part of a plan to erase our borders and create the North American Union, a single nation State like the EU, out of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, with a new, unelected bureaucracy and money system. Forget about controlling immigration under the NAU scheme. There won''t be any borders anymore, or a free America. Our limited, constitutional government will be gone forever. Let''s not forget the UN either. It wants to impose a direct Carbon Tax on us. Ron Paul successfully fought this move in Congress last year, but if we are going to stop ongoing attempts of this world government body to rule over us, we need someone in the White House who knows how to say "No." We must withdraw from any organizations or treaty that infringes upon our nation''s sovereignty.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 5:53 PM PST
RON PAUL KNOWS HOW TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. Ron Paul has a plan: (1.) Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals. (2.) Enforce Visa rules. Immigration officials must track Visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their Visa or otherwise violates U.S. Law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired Visas. (3.) No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That''s a lot of people to reward for breaking our Laws. (4.) No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules, but taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services. (5.) End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong. (6.) Pass true immigration reform. The current system, and those proposed by ALL other candidates, is incoherent and unfair, and would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country.
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by antoniof123 November 17, 2007 6:11 PM PST
I am certain that I will vote Democrat in the next election and if the Republicans don''t come clean real fast I will never again vote Republican.

What a bunch of wing nuts enough already why can''t we have the elections now and get rid of more of them today.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 6:28 PM PST
COULDN''T VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN? REALLY?
Some people say, "a Republican? I''d never vote for a Republican." Let me remind you folks that Abraham Lincoln, who freed the slaves, and who won the war to preserve our Union, WAS himself a Republican. Would you have voted for Stephen Douglas, who was ardently pro slavery, against Lincoln simply because he was a Democrat? Of course you wouldn''t. Or would you? I would hope that it''s the person you will be voting for, and the ideas he or she represents, and NOT the party.
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by rowdytexan2 November 17, 2007 6:53 PM PST
Cripes....!!!

Gawd save us from the Junior League and stand by my monied (crooked) man.
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by jerr11 November 17, 2007 6:55 PM PST
she tells reporters. "I''m beginning to understand what my husband likes about politics."



Don''t get too comfy with that term "husband."

Serial adulterers never kick the habit. They just move to greener and younger pastures.

Start think "ex-husband."

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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 7:34 PM PST
WHO''S RON PAUL?
Ron Paul''s campaign has become a clearinghouse for voters like me who feel unrepresented by the Fascisct (globalist Republicans) and their Socialist comrades in crime (globalist Democrats). They''re actually one and the same. It''s all a phony, poorly staged left-right paradigm. Most people, though, are too distracted, dumbed-down, or outright brainwashed by mainstream media, which endlessly regurgitates scientifically-crafted streams of information aimed at keeping their eyes closed to the realities of the world around them, that they fail to recognize this. Those currently in power, and those being groomed to take [major] political power, are preselected by a "global elite," and whomever is eventually elected, will ultimately, serve their agenda, and not ours. People on the right and those on the left have many differences, maybe irreconcilable ones. But we have a lot of common beliefs too, and our numbers and anger are of a considerable magnitude. No matter what happens in 2008, I personally believe Ron Paul will influence the national conversation about how much power our government should have over our lives; how much liberty we should give up for security; and whether we should continue moving along our current path towards one world government. These are issues that, frankly, no one else is talking about as seriously and sincerely as Ron Paul. What''s for sure is that his growing army of supporters like me will cast a vote to be reckoned with in 2008.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 7:36 PM PST
POLLSTERS ARTIFICIALLY SKEWING RESULTS
Ron Paul breaks fundraising records, wins phone-in and Internet polls, yet why are his national poll numbers so low? A Zogby pollee recently revealed what happened to him when he took part in their national, 2008 presidential election poll. Upon confirming Ron Paul as his choice for President, the poll then branched out into a myriad of bizarre and intrusive questions which would discourage most people from completing the process, and thereby making their vote for Ron Paul null and void. "The first part of the poll was about which candidate one prefers, with candidates from both parties being available as choices. Great! However, after I finished answering positively for Ron Paul, the poll got very interesting," he writes. "As anyone who is familiar with how polls work is aware, polls are branching in their structure. Answers you give to one section of the poll will determine what questions you will receive in the next section of the poll." The pollee then relates his confusion about the fact that the poll threw up 20 questions about cooking rice before another extensive set of questions regarding personal sexual behavior. "This went on for a number of pages and was rather intrusive," he said. "It dealt with sexual positions, sexual fantasies, sexual preferences and similar intimate subjects. Of course neither rice cooking or sexual behavior have anything to do with presidential elections or politics in general. Or at least it shouldn''t!"
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 7:43 PM PST
CBS NEWS CONDUCTING RIGGED POLLS
Most people can see right through the prejudice CBS News obviously has towards Ron Paul. In the few times they''ve covered him at all, I''m suprised they didn''t have one of their graphics artists Photoshop some devil horns on top of his head in that worst ever photograph they always use of him. CBS obviously thinks that if they pretend Paul isn''t a top-tier GOP candidate, then their readers and viewers will eventually think so too. Whenever they are forced to do a story on Paul, because some other mainstream source is covering him for some reason, the fact that their editors work overtime to slant their stories in such a way as to either marginalize his accomplishment, or present Paul in the most negative light possible, is obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence. "What about their polls?," you ask? As far as the CBS News poll is concerned, they don''t even include Paul on the list of GOP candidates which pollees can choose from, and then afterwards, report to you that Paul doesn''t even rank in their final tally. Ron Paul is getting major grass roots support nationwide. He has over 62,380 meetup group members in 1,175 Groups from 1,004 cities nationwide, with another 7,197 people more folks just waiting to hear when a new meetup group will start-up near them. He''s won ALL of the viewer phone-in polls in ALL of the GOP debates he''s been in, and has raised more money ($4.2 million) in one day than any other GOP candidate ever. Go Ron Go!
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 8:00 PM PST
RON PAUL WINS STRAW POLL IN WASHINGTON STATE
Texas congressman Ron Paul won the South Sound Ronald Reagan Republican Club (SSRRRC) 2008 presidential primary straw poll with 38 percent of the vote at their October 26 meeting in Pierce County, Washington. This is his third SSRRRC win; Dr. Paul won their August and September polls with 28 and 48 percent respectively. Fred Thompson placed second in all three polls. This latest one of many straw poll successes nationwide for the GOP presidential candidate and leading war opponent. "Dr. Paul enjoys great grassroots support in Washington and across the nation," said Paul spokesman Jesse Benton. "His numerous straw poll victories show that Americans embrace his message of freedom, peace, and prosperity, and are ready to put a real Republican in the White House." Dr. Paul''s September 14 rally in Seattle, Washington drew over 1,300 supporters.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 8:01 PM PST
RON PAUL WINS MISSOURI STRAW POLL
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul continued his trend of straw poll victories in Springfield, Missouri on October 30. The Texas congressman placed first in the Springfield Metropolitan Republican Club straw poll, in the conservative Ozarks region. He earned more than 77 percent of the vote, polling higher than all his opponents combined. Mike Huckabee placed second with 10 percent. 110 Republican Club members participated in the poll. This is just one in a string of straw poll successes for Congressman Paul. A straw-poll frontrunner, Congressman Paul has the largest number of supporters of any presidential candidate on popular internet social network sites Meetup.com and Youtube.com. "Dr. Paul is bringing the Republican Party together," said Paul campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "Supporters in Missouri and nationwide know that only Dr. Paul can beat Hillary in 2008." The Springfield Metropolitan Republican Club is a Republican grassroots organization in Greene County, Missouri.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 8:03 PM PST
RON PAUL WINS GOP STRAW POLL IN FRESNO
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul won the November 15th straw poll at the Salute to Republican Leaders fundraiser hosted by the Fresno County Republican Party. Congressman Paul won with 35 percent, beating Rudy Giuliani, who garnered 33 percent of the vote. This win attests to the strength of the Paul campaign in California. There are over 140 registered Ron Paul volunteers in Fresno among thousands of registered volunteers throughout the Golden State. "Across California, the Paul campaign is energizing new voters to register Republican and is re-registering disaffected Republicans who are excited about Ron Paul''s candidacy and his support of traditional Republican principles," said Jeff Greenspan, Ron Paul''s regional coordinator. In his address to the Fresno County Republican Party, Greenspan said, "We are pleased to support Republican party ideals in California, the Republican party of Fresno County, and the party of Ronald Reagan." Of 41 recent straw polls across the U.S., Ron Paul has won 21, with numerous second and third place finishes.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 8:03 PM PST
RON PAUL CAN WIN THE ELECTION
Ron Paul can win the GOP nomination. If he does, I predict a landslide victory in November of 2008. Even the oddsmakers in Vegas aren''t willing to discount his chances. They''re currently giving him 2:1 odds to win against Hitlery if he gets the nomination. Romney, McCain and the globalist, sell-out Giuliani aren''t given anything better than a 45:1 chance of winning if they get the GOP nod. All it takes is for formerly apathetic individuals to get off the couch and nominate him in their local Republican primary or caucus process. Political parties are nothing more than tools. Those who read the manual and use the tools properly will win the nomination for their candidate. For the past 20 years, many good people have stayed at home and accepted whatever candidate they let others select for them. This year, those people are learning how to use their vote to make a difference. In order to do so, you must participate in the Republican primary election or caucus process in your county, precinct or district. Nothing else matters. If we do this, we win. If not, we lose. The GOP has been suffering from declining participation for decades. Fewer than 10% of registered voters have ALL the power because they actually participate. Now the remaining 90% must surge to use their vote as a tool to bring about positive and long overdue political change in this country. The time to act is now. The time for political revolution has come. The time for Ron Paul is NOW!
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 8:07 PM PST
RON PAUL WILL RESTORE U.S. SOVEREIGNTY
All of the trade deals and world government organizations, which all of the presidential candidates support (except Ron Paul), such as the ICC, NAFTA, GATT, WTO, and CAFTA, are all a major threat to our nation''s sovereignty. They transfer power from our government to unelected foreign elites. The ICC wants to try our soldiers as war criminals. Both the WTO and CAFTA could force Americans to get a prescription to take herbs and vitamins. The WTO has forced Congress to change our laws to meet their needs, and not our own. If anything, the WTO makes trade relations worse by giving foreign competitors a new way to attack U.S. jobs. The NAFTA superhighway, being built by a Spanish company, is just one part of a plan to erase our borders and create the North American Union, a single nation State like the EU, out of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, with a new, unelected bureaucracy and money system. Forget about controlling immigration under the NAU scheme. There won''t be any borders anymore, or a free America. Our limited, constitutional government will be gone forever. Let''s not forget the UN either. It wants to impose a direct Carbon Tax on us. Ron Paul successfully fought this move in Congress last year, but if we are going to stop ongoing attempts of this world government body to rule over us, we need someone in the White House who knows how to say "No." We must withdraw from any organizations or treaty that infringes upon our nation''s sovereignty.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 8:12 PM PST
RON PAUL KNOWS HOW TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. Ron Paul has a plan: (1.) Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals. (2.) Enforce Visa rules. Immigration officials must track Visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their Visa or otherwise violates U.S. Law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired Visas. (3.) No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That''s a lot of people to reward for breaking our Laws. (4.) No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules, but taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services. (5.) End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong. (6.) Pass true immigration reform. The current system, and those proposed by ALL other candidates, is incoherent and unfair, and would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 8:13 PM PST
THE SKINNY ON GIULIANI:
Cintra-Zachry, a company owned by the King of Spain, is currently building the NAFTA superhighway through the middle of our country, and they to get to keep the tolls. Giuliani''s Law firm, Bracewell & Giuliani represents that Spanish company. Another Giuliani business, Giuliani Capitol Advisors was once a partner of Cintra-Zachry, and owned the rights to collect the tolls from the Indiana and Chicago sections of the highway before they sold that interest to an Australian company called Macquarie recently. Bracewell & Giuliani represents some of the biggest multi-national oil, utility and financial corporations in the world. With that have come the connections that Giuliani has been able to tap into in order to fund his campaign. Not only is Giuliani the consummate globalist who actively sells-off our country to foreigners, he''s also the only GOP candidate who supports abortion. Also unnerving, given Giuliani''s personal experience on 9/11, is his defense of open borders, and the fact that he publicly welcomed illegals to come to New York where he would provide them with sanctuary. We should have seen it coming when Mayor Giuliani enacted Special Order 40 in 1994, ordering NYC cops to stop checking the immigration status of suspects caught violating the Law. Giulliani also supports creation of the North American Union, which will forever end our nation''s sovereignty and limited constitutional form of government forever. Vote for a REAL AMERICAN--Ron Paul.
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by jonesforch November 17, 2007 8:49 PM PST
PeaceProphet

GAG you ruined another story... spitting
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by michaelt302 November 17, 2007 9:11 PM PST
The best thing that is coming in 2008 will be the inevitable end to all these whacky "Ron Paul" posts. By Spring 2008, one of the Republican%u2019s will have become the clear nominee. It will clearly (well, at least clear to anyone with any IQ larger than that of a grape) be either Giuliani, Romney, or McCain. Sorry, but because of money, name recognition, and their job record, that is the way it is. By June 2008, the nominee will be 100% locked in, and then, with great relief, the Ron Paul as*sholes, who have basically sucked up 98% of CBS''s online bandwidth the last 6 months, will fall silent. This is the great relief that I am looking forward to. At this point, I don''t care who becomes President, just so we can get 2008 over with and I don''t have to see these dam*n Ron Paul posts anymore.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 9:50 PM PST
PUT UP OR SHUT UP
I challenge you to present your candidate''s competing ideas, or does your candidate even have any ideas? You probably don''t even know where your candidate stands on the most important issues facing our country. That''s understandable, because your sold-out candidate probably doesn''t want you to know. Sadly, modern elections have become little more than beauty contests rather than contests of ideas, which is what they should be. To those of you who don''t like my posts, and refer to them as "spam": If you are turned-off by free speech and the communication of political ideas during a presidential election season, I''m totally glad you are. You''re probably the same sort of fascist pig who trys to define waterboarding as an "enhanced interrogation technique," rather than the inhumane sort of torture that it most surely is. You can define my political free speech as "spam," and you can define torture as an "inhanced interrogation technique," but that does not make it so. Finally, rather than flip-flopping as the winds of the moment blow, or not fully disclosing where he stands on the issues, as your favorite candidate probably does, Ron Paul makes his positions very clear, and he never deviates from those positions, ever. His 800 published articles, five books and 20 year congressional voting record is proof of that fact. This is one of the many reasons so many people like myself support him. He, unlike your candidate, is a man of real substance and real integrity.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 9:51 PM PST
TO APATHETIC AMERICANS
Voter disenfranchisement and apathy infects the heart of our Republic. Get off your couch, put your remote control down, and become active in your nation''s political process. The pathetically few people that do vote in this country, a.k.a., "the ruling class", who currently get to decide under what kind of conditions (and Laws) you and your family will live, are certainly involved. I can assure you of that. In fact, the ruling class would be much happier if you would just continue to stay home and watch TV in your pleasantly distracted and brainwashed, stupor. That way they can continue to elect their political ****** to office, and continue to maintain their grip on 100% of the political power they currently own in this country. If you voted (God Forbid), it would cancel-out their vote, and they would lose control. They can''t have that. Now can they? If you don''t vote, my friends, you''re nothing but an unwashed "Pleb" to those that do, and the ruling class should rightfully consider themselves superior to you in every way. They do, after all, have all the power, while you have none. If you''re too apathetic and powerless to do anything for yourself more time-consuming than driving down to Mickey D''s to buy a milk shake in order to sieze control of your life, and your country''s destiny, then perhaps you deserve to be ruled over like the "Pleb" that you then are. The time to act is now. The time for political revolution has come. The time for Ron Paul is NOW!
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 9:54 PM PST
WERE HAVING A TEA PARTY! YOU''RE INVITED
As we all know, freedom isn''t free in this country. Therefore, in the wake of our successful fundraising event of November 5th, in which we all came together to raise $4.2 million dollars for Ron Paul''s campaign, we''ve set yet another date for an even bigger fundraiser. This one will take place during on December 16th: a very important date for people who love freedom and hate tyranny to ring the Liberty Bell, and let our sold-out, globalist, political ****** and their mainstream media enablers know that good Americans are mad as hell, and that we''re not going to take it anymore. December 16th is the 224th aniversary of The Boston Tea Party: an act of protest by the American colonists against the tyranny of Great Britain where the Sons of Liberty boarded British ships and dumped crates of tea overboard into Boston Harbor. It was a key event which helped to spark the American Revolution, and we hope this event will, likewise, add additional spark to our own 21st Century political revolution to restore peace, prosperity and freedom to our Republic by helping elect a President whose record of adherance to The Constitution is unmatched by anyone in American politics. Please join us this December 16th for the largest one-day political donation event in history. Our goal is to bring together 100,000 people to donate $100 each, creating a one day donation total of $10,000,000. The time to act is now. The time for Ron Paul is NOW! TeaParty07.com
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 9:56 PM PST
POLLSTERS CAUGHT SKEWING RESULTS
Ron Paul breaks fundraising records, wins phone-in and Internet polls, yet why are his national poll numbers so low? A Zogby pollee recently revealed what happened to him when he took part in their national, 2008 presidential election poll. Upon confirming Ron Paul as his choice for President, the poll then branched out into a myriad of bizarre and intrusive questions which would discourage most people from completing the process, and thereby making their vote for Ron Paul null and void. "The first part of the poll was about which candidate one prefers, with candidates from both parties being available as choices. Great! However, after I finished answering positively for Ron Paul, the poll got very interesting," he writes. "As anyone who is familiar with how polls work is aware, polls are branching in their structure. Answers you give to one section of the poll will determine what questions you will receive in the next section of the poll." The pollee then relates his confusion about the fact that the poll threw up 20 questions about cooking rice before another extensive set of questions regarding personal sexual behavior. "This went on for a number of pages and was rather intrusive," he said. "It dealt with sexual positions, sexual fantasies, sexual preferences and similar intimate subjects. Of course neither rice cooking or sexual behavior have anything to do with presidential elections or politics in general. Or at least it shouldn''t!"
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 9:58 PM PST
CBS NEWS CAUGHT CONDUCTING RIGGED POLLS
Most people can see right through the prejudice CBS News obviously has towards Ron Paul. In the few times they''ve covered him at all, I''m suprised they didn''t have one of their graphics artists Photoshop some devil horns on top of his head in that worst ever photograph they always use of him. CBS obviously thinks that if they pretend Paul isn''t a top-tier GOP candidate, then their readers and viewers will eventually think so too. Whenever they are forced to do a story on Paul, because some other mainstream source is covering him for some reason, the fact that their editors work overtime to slant their stories in such a way as to either marginalize his accomplishment, or present Paul in the most negative light possible, is obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence. "What about their polls?," you ask? As far as the CBS News poll is concerned, they don''t even include Paul on the list of GOP candidates which pollees can choose from, and then afterwards, report to you that Paul doesn''t even rank in their final tally. Ron Paul is getting major grass roots support nationwide. He has over 71,700 meetup group members in 1,198 Groups from 938 cities nationwide, with another 7,277 people more folks just waiting to hear when a new meetup group will start-up near them. He''s won ALL of the viewer phone-in polls in ALL of the GOP debates he''s been in, and has raised more money ($4.2 million) in one day than any other GOP candidate ever. Go Ron Go!
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 9:59 PM PST
RON PAUL WINS STRAW POLL IN WASHINGTON STATE
Texas congressman Ron Paul won the South Sound Ronald Reagan Republican Club (SSRRRC) 2008 presidential primary straw poll with 38 percent of the vote at their October 26 meeting in Pierce County, Washington. This is his third SSRRRC win; Dr. Paul won their August and September polls with 28 and 48 percent respectively. Fred Thompson placed second in all three polls. This latest one of many straw poll successes nationwide for the GOP presidential candidate and leading war opponent. "Dr. Paul enjoys great grassroots support in Washington and across the nation," said Paul spokesman Jesse Benton. "His numerous straw poll victories show that Americans embrace his message of freedom, peace, and prosperity, and are ready to put a real Republican in the White House." Dr. Paul''s September 14 rally in Seattle, Washington drew over 1,300 supporters.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 10:01 PM PST
RON PAUL WINS MISSOURI STRAW POLL
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul continued his trend of straw poll victories in Springfield, Missouri on October 30. The Texas congressman placed first in the Springfield Metropolitan Republican Club straw poll, in the conservative Ozarks region. He earned more than 77 percent of the vote, polling higher than all his opponents combined. Mike Huckabee placed second with 10 percent. 110 Republican Club members participated in the poll. This is just one in a string of straw poll successes for Congressman Paul. A straw-poll frontrunner, Congressman Paul has the largest number of supporters of any presidential candidate on popular internet social network sites Meetup.com and Youtube.com. "Dr. Paul is bringing the Republican Party together," said Paul campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "Supporters in Missouri and nationwide know that only Dr. Paul can beat Hillary in 2008." The Springfield Metropolitan Republican Club is a Republican grassroots organization in Greene County, Missouri.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 10:03 PM PST
RON PAUL WINS GOP STRAW POLL IN FRESNO
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul won the November 15th straw poll at the Salute to Republican Leaders fundraiser hosted by the Fresno County Republican Party. Congressman Paul won with 35 percent, beating Rudy Giuliani, who garnered 33 percent of the vote. This win attests to the strength of the Paul campaign in California. There are over 140 registered Ron Paul volunteers in Fresno among thousands of registered volunteers throughout the Golden State. "Across California, the Paul campaign is energizing new voters to register Republican and is re-registering disaffected Republicans who are excited about Ron Paul''s candidacy and his support of traditional Republican principles," said Jeff Greenspan, Ron Paul''s regional coordinator. In his address to the Fresno County Republican Party, Greenspan said, "We are pleased to support Republican party ideals in California, the Republican party of Fresno County, and the party of Ronald Reagan." Of 41 recent straw polls across the U.S., Ron Paul has won 21, with numerous second and third place finishes.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 10:05 PM PST
RON PAUL CAN WIN THE ELECTION
Ron Paul can win the GOP nomination. If he does, I predict a landslide victory in November of 2008. Even the oddsmakers in Vegas aren''t willing to discount his chances. They''re currently giving him 2:1 odds to win against Hitlery if he gets the nomination. Romney, McCain and the globalist, sell-out Giuliani aren''t given anything better than a 45:1 chance of winning if they get the GOP nod. All it takes is for formerly apathetic individuals to get off the couch and nominate him in their local Republican primary or caucus process. Political parties are nothing more than tools. Those who read the manual and use the tools properly will win the nomination for their candidate. For the past 20 years, many good people have stayed at home and accepted whatever candidate they let others select for them. This year, those people are learning how to use their vote to make a difference. In order to do so, you must participate in the Republican primary election or caucus process in your county, precinct or district. Nothing else matters. If we do this, we win. If not, we lose. The GOP has been suffering from declining participation for decades. Fewer than 10% of registered voters have ALL the power because they actually participate. Now the remaining 90% must surge to use their vote as a tool to bring about positive and long overdue political change in this country. The time to act is now. The time for political revolution has come. The time for Ron Paul is NOW!
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 10:07 PM PST
RON PAUL WILL RESTORE U.S. SOVEREIGNTY
All of the trade deals and world government organizations, which all of the presidential candidates support (except Ron Paul), such as the ICC, NAFTA, GATT, WTO, and CAFTA, are all a major threat to our nation''s sovereignty. They transfer power from our government to unelected foreign elites. The ICC wants to try our soldiers as war criminals. Both the WTO and CAFTA could force Americans to get a prescription to take herbs and vitamins. The WTO has forced Congress to change our laws to meet their needs, and not our own. If anything, the WTO makes trade relations worse by giving foreign competitors a new way to attack U.S. jobs. The NAFTA superhighway, being built by a Spanish company, is just one part of a plan to erase our borders and create the North American Union, a single nation State like the EU, out of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, with a new, unelected bureaucracy and money system. Forget about controlling immigration under the NAU scheme. There won''t be any borders anymore, or a free America. Our limited, constitutional government will be gone forever. Let''s not forget the UN either. It wants to impose a direct Carbon Tax on us. Ron Paul successfully fought this move in Congress last year, but if we are going to stop ongoing attempts of this world government body to rule over us, we need someone in the White House who knows how to say "No." We must withdraw from any organizations or treaty that infringes upon our nation''s sovereignty.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 10:08 PM PST
RON PAUL KNOWS HOW TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. Ron Paul has a plan: (1.) Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals. (2.) Enforce Visa rules. Immigration officials must track Visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their Visa or otherwise violates U.S. Law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired Visas. (3.) No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That''s a lot of people to reward for breaking our Laws. (4.) No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules, but taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services. (5.) End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong. (6.) Pass true immigration reform. The current system, and those proposed by ALL other candidates, is incoherent and unfair, and would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country.
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by peaceprophet November 17, 2007 10:10 PM PST
THE SKINNY ON GIULIANI:
Cintra-Zachry, a company owned by the King of Spain, is currently building the NAFTA superhighway through the middle of our country, and they to get to keep the tolls. Giuliani''s Law firm, Bracewell & Giuliani represents that Spanish company. Another Giuliani business, Giuliani Capitol Advisors was once a partner of Cintra-Zachry, and owned the rights to collect the tolls from the Indiana and Chicago sections of the highway before they sold that interest to an Australian company called Macquarie recently. Bracewell & Giuliani represents some of the biggest multi-national oil, utility and financial corporations in the world. With that have come the connections that Giuliani has been able to tap into in order to fund his campaign. Not only is Giuliani the consummate globalist who actively sells-off our country to foreigners, he''s also the only GOP candidate who supports abortion. Also unnerving, given Giuliani''s personal experience on 9/11, is his defense of open borders, and the fact that he publicly welcomed illegals to come to New York where he would provide them with sanctuary. We should have seen it coming when Mayor Giuliani enacted Special Order 40 in 1994, ordering NYC cops to stop checking the immigration status of suspects caught violating the Law. Giulliani also supports creation of the North American Union, which will forever end our nation''s sovereignty and limited constitutional form of government. Vote for a REAL AMERICAN--Ron Paul.
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by michaelt302 November 17, 2007 10:39 PM PST
PeaceProphet is clearly mentally disturbed and a raving lunatic. He should be pitied, and ignored.
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