February 11, 2009 3:54 PM

Breaking The Stained Glass Ceiling

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(CBS)  It never occurred to Jane Hoffman that she could be a pastor one day. That's because when she started, there weren't many women pastors. But even after 27 years in the pulpit, and leading the 95,000-member Illinois Council of the United Church of Christ, Reverend Hoffman is still something of a pioneer, reports CBS News correspondent Cynthia Bowers.

"People come and say, 'you're my first,' or at a wedding reception people would say, 'I've never been to a wedding where a woman conducted it,'" said Reverend Hoffman.

Even though 60 percent of American churchgoers are women, the clergy remains overwhelmingly male. Only 25 percent of pastors in the United Church of Christ are female. Less than 20 percent of clergy in other major denominations are women (19 percent of Presbyterians, 15 percent of Methodists, 12 percent Episcopalians, 11 percent of Lutherans), and fewer than 5 percent among southern Baptists.

And that may be more about doctrine than discrimination. Many believe the Bible says only men should be church leaders. The Catholic Church, the world's most influential religious body, has never ordained women as priests.

While last year's election of a woman as presiding bishop of the National Episcopal Church was a big step, Chicago Bishop William Persell admits getting congregations to accept women in authority can be a bit of a challenge.

"There are a few congregations that insist only a man can be a priest," said Persell. "We still have several left in the diocese but they are very small in number."

And when women do manage to break through the stained glass ceiling, Hoffman says the pressure is on to perform.

"One of the things I've seen is if a woman loses her job or doesn't do well, you'll still hear, 'we'll need a man next time.'"

To combat that, women are strengthening their credentials, reports Bowers. Since 1972 the number of males enrolled in seminary has fallen 25 percent. But over the same time frame female enrollment has increased from 5 percent to 31 percent.

"They are not going to have trouble getting the first church or the second church," said Susan Thistlethwaite, of the Chicago Theological Seminary. "It's the big church on the corner of main street and second. That's where the stained glass ceiling is now."

A ceiling Reverend Hoffman believes is cracking more every Sunday.

"I think we're making progress," said Hoffman. "We have a lot of room to grow in that, as well as other areas."

Maybe, with a little help from above.

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by godofredo29 November 14, 2007 10:04 PM EST
The irony in this story is not lost on me. All the time we hear: Men don''t go to church. The statistics mentioned here back that up and you can bet the ones that do go do so because of the wife and kids not for anything he''ll get out of it. Face it, whoever is running the show, the Christian denominations are all female dominated and for and by women. And, how about that role model? A single, 33 year-old loner with suicidal tendencies. Now there''s an example to learn from.
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by remade2 November 13, 2007 11:44 PM EST
The first evangelist was the woman at the well, John chapter 4. Did Jesus condemn her? Where believers made? We need to obey the word of God and do as Jesus did. Where is the true new testament church, members of Christ''s, not Jesus'' body? Could they be either male or female because they walk after the Spirit and not after the flesh?
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by remade2 November 13, 2007 11:36 PM EST
Paul was not God and gave his opinion on the women of his juristdictions. God is not a respecter of persons. the five-fold ministries go beyond gender to the high call of Christ, the spirit which cannot be restricted from doing the greater works of Christ, according fleshtypes. Paul also recognized female apostles, apostolic teams, as the call of God is not necessarily revealed in what we see in todays churches. Why are there so many pastors today and so few then. Who truly trains disciples to mature into apostles, prophets, teachers, pastors, and evangelists. If they existed then, there should be more in purportion today. The office of pastor is only mentioned twice. We have been missing the truth and settled for a form of godliness, and then wonder why the world is like it is. God ordained all five ministry gifts, not just one.
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by edaw5 November 12, 2007 8:56 PM EST
GOD does not cause wars, droughts, misery and chaos. people do. God helps us get through wars, droughts misery and chaos. All you need to do is accept him and you will understand what it is I am talking about.
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by pilgrimsprogress November 12, 2007 1:16 AM EST
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I always do find these "Stained Glass" titles so amusing. It''s as if the author thinks that MEN artificially keep women out of authority positions. The fact is, the Church belongs to the LORD and HE decides how the Church is run. Churches that uphold this biblical instruction honor the LORD. Those who attack and run counter to this teaching are doing battle with God Himself. It is a matter of obedience to God. This goes for sins of commission and sins of omission.

In our modern and enlightened day where we run away from God and seek our own desires (becoming our own gods), what do we have to show for it? Crime is increasing everywhere. Fear rules the day - if you don''t believe me, just take a stroll through Camden or Philadelphia. Corruption is everywhere and in all institutions. Children in public schools face incredible challenges and pressure that most mature adults have never known. As a society, we are spiraling down quickly. Perhaps it''s time to stop running away from God and start getting our lives right with Jesus. Let us begin to do things God''s way and fix our eyes upon Jesus our Lord.

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by pilgrimsprogress November 12, 2007 1:15 AM EST
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The Bible clearly teaches that the role of Pastor/Teacher belongs to men. Church is God''s house and follows God''s rules. Those rules call for men to preach and teach in the Church. Secularism and modern feminism see this as a threat to women. It is actually a responsibility that belongs to men.

Secularists and feminists have no part in this issue. You can sit on the outside and protest, but it is not your place to even do so. The Bible is crystal clear on this issue. It''s non-negotiable.

Stating that men are to pastor and teach in the Church is not demeaning to women at all. No one said that women are not capable of doing it. However, demanding that women run Churches goes contrary to the Word of God and becomes a matter of disobedience to the revealed will of God.

So much more can be said on this topic, and I''m sure there will be many posts in opposition to what I''ve just said - mainly because following God''s Word is contrary to our modern day culture. However, this is clearly taught in the Bible - Old and New Testament.


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by edaw5 November 12, 2007 1:07 AM EST
This story is truly not about Women and the supposed glass ceiling. This story is about God and what he outlines in the bible for the role of the Women in the church. Look at 1st Tim ch2 ver 9-15 and 1st Tim ch 3 1-16. Women are not to hold the office of pastor, deacon or bishop according to the Bible. We must look to the Bible for our awnsers not other organizations just because they are promoting women. God is the ultimate authority in everything.
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by sgthappyg November 11, 2007 10:32 PM EST
CBS News should check out The Salvation Army. This denomination has been ordaining women for over 125 years and there is no "glass ceiling." Two women have been elected to be General which is the highest rank and is the International leader of the organization.
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