McCain Campaign To Take Out $3M Loan

Independent Group To Produce Ads Promoting Republican Known For Fighting Outside Influence

(AP)  Republican John McCain, climbing in polls but lagging in money, is negotiating a $3 million loan while some of his backers launch an independent advertising effort seemingly at odds with his years of fighting outside influence in campaigns.

The ad campaign, financed by contributions from undisclosed donors, drew a prompt rebuke from McCain.

"I condemn them," he told The Associated Press on Friday. "They are a violation of everything I believe in."

Steps under way inside and outside McCain's campaign indicate a degree of urgency as the first nominating contests draw near and as he shows signs of resurgence after a dismal spring and summer.

Campaign aides said they hoped to finalize arrangements within days for a line of credit of about $3 million to help pay for expenses as well as for ads, mailings and other means of voter contact. The campaign also is considering taking public matching funds, but some aides fear the attached spending limits could hinder McCain if he does secure the nomination.

Separately, a newly created group was airing an ad Friday in South Carolina that portrays the Arizona senator and two of his congressional allies as "leaders who share our priorities" of supporting funds for U.S. troops and opposing pork-barrel spending.

"I have no clue about it," McCain said in a brief interview while campaigning in Meredith, N.H. "I didn't know they were doing them. I didn't even know about it until a short time ago."

In a statement issued later, McCain added: "If anyone considering an outside expenditure thinks they are benefiting me, I would prefer they do not air the ads. If there are ads up, I believe they should come down."

Financed mainly by McCain backers, the Foundation for a Secure and Prosperous America was created with the help of Republican admaker Rick Reed. He called himself a volunteer with McCain's presidential effort earlier this year, and he is close to McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis.

McCain wrote a strict 2002 campaign finance law and has criticized independent advertising in the past. His aides said they had no knowledge of or involvement in any outside efforts.

Reed is not new to independent advertising efforts during presidential campaigns. He was the media strategist who co-produced a series of ads in 2004 by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, who questioned Democratic nominee John Kerry's service in Vietnam. McCain, at the time, condemned those ads.

"I condemned them when they were swift boat ads. I condemn them now," McCain said.

The new group, a 501(c)4 nonprofit corporation under IRS regulations, is not required to disclose its donors, unlike political campaign and political action committees the Federal Election Commission covers.

Reed would not disclose how much has been raised or the identity of donors. Asked if they were McCain supporters, he said, "Some are, maybe even all at this point."

He said the group is designed to promote a strong national security, limits in spending and vigorous anti-terrorism efforts while identifying leaders who best reflect the group's positions.

"Right now Senator McCain seems to be the closest to the group's views," Reed said. Others, he said, include South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham and Arizona Rep. John Shadegg; both appear in the first ad and both have endorsed McCain.

A disclaimer at the bottom of the group's Web site states: "As a qualified nonprofit organization, Foundation for a Secure and Prosperous America may on occasion use some of its funds for political purposes such as supporting or opposing persons who happen to be candidates."

Said McCain spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker: "The McCain campaign does not coordinate with any outside groups that are making or planning to make independent expenditures in the presidential election."

The campaign paid Reed's firm $1,690 in May for what aides said was archival McCain footage from the 2000 campaign that was in the firm's possession. Aides said the firm has provided no services for McCain's 2008 bid.

Reed's effort could be the first of several independent ventures that could help McCain. Other supporters and donors have been discussing how to expand his advertising reach in key early nominating states. Backers of other presidential hopefuls also are contemplating independent efforts to boost their candidates.

Such steps allow major fundraisers and donors of candidates who have already given the maximum allowed by law to individual campaigns to assist their candidates by putting money into other entities.

By organizing itself as a nonprofit 501(c)4 organization, the Foundation for a Secure and Prosperous America can raise unlimited amounts of money for its ads without disclosing its donors or details of its spending. Under Internal Revenue Service regulations it can engage in political activity provided that is not the sole purpose of its existence.

The ad does not mention McCain's candidacy, but it does show pictures of him and flash his name. Broadly, the ad focuses on promoting military funding legislation in Congress and calling on viewers to urge Congress to approve.

Any independent ad campaign has to be unaffiliated to the McCain campaign and organizers would be prohibited by law from discussing their plans with McCain or his staff.

Reed said the group is abiding by the law, and that he had not spoken with the campaign since his firm ended an affiliation with it early this year.

Still, such a separate organization could undermine McCain's image as a campaign finance reformer by creating the appearance that McCain backers are exploiting loopholes in the law.

McCain was one of the authors of a 2002 campaign finance law that ended the ability of national parties to collect unlimited contributions known as soft money. McCain also has criticized the emergence of other nonprofit groups, known as "527" organizations, that have skirted campaign finance laws and raised millions in unlimited money from wealthy donors.

"On the one hand, he's obviously always been a strong proponent of campaign finance reform," said Dan Schnur, a Republican strategist who worked on McCain's 2000 campaign but who is unaffiliated now. "On the other hand, I know he doesn't believe in unilateral disarmament either."

McCain is considering accepting public matching funds for his campaign. At this point, he would be eligible for $5 million, but aides said McCain has made no decision on whether to seek the money. McCain is the only Republican at the top of the presidential field who has taken steps to obtain the public funds. By accepting the money, McCain would have to restrict his spending in primary states, placing him at a potential disadvantage against better-financed rivals.

Once considered the GOP front-runner, McCain found himself all but broke and languishing in polls at summer's end. As fall began, his fortunes improved, and he now senses opportunity, particularly in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

The compressed primary calendar has increased pressure on his campaign to capitalize on his improved standing — and spend heavily on television ads. The Iowa caucuses are scheduled for Jan. 3 and could be followed promptly by the New Hampshire primary. Michigan is considering holding a primary Jan. 15, followed by South Carolina on Jan. 19.

McCain ended the third quarter of the year with $3.5 million, $1.7 million of which was available for the primaries. He also reported a debt of $1.7 million.

He's been running ads in New Hampshire, recently expanding to the expensive Boston market, but he has been unable to afford to go on the air in South Carolina, though advisers say he will soon. The campaign is also conducting direct mail campaigns in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Aides and fundraisers for McCain said donors are beginning to open up their wallets again and the campaign is raising money faster than it is spending it.

Aides said the line of credit would be secured by campaign assets and would give the campaign more flexibility. As opposed to an outright loan, a line of credit would permit the campaign to use part of the amount, depending on its needs.

"We don't have to do it. We think it would improve our competitiveness if we do it," Davis said. "This helps us manage the cash flow."

[kansas1946]

It''s bad enough that these guys keep dragging out their wives, but dragging out the mother''s is really tiresome. Check out the picuture. Looks like the are already pretending to be at the swearing in ceremony. Lord.

[b-easy63]

The fact is, that only one person in the Republican and Democratic party will win the nomination. We pretty well know who that is in each party barring some miracle. Everyone else is just wasting tax payer money and their own money and time and really do not have a prayer. McCain will not win. He''s lost too many in all camps:

1. Republicans, who don''t trust him for Iraq and trust him even less for the domestic side, esp his stand on illegal immigration

2. Dems--they want out of the Iraq war. McCain wants to stay and promises he will plus he wants to bomb Iran, those who want no more wars--McCain has lost their vote

3. Independents--when he took the Bagdhad stroll, endorsed almost everything Bush said and proved he was not his own man and probably never would be again.

He''s washed up and wasting money. Lot''s of money. H''d get more respect if he stepped down and donated to some charity.

[b-easy63]

It''''s bad enough that these guys keep dragging out their wives, but dragging out the mother''''s is really tiresome. Check out the picuture. Looks like the are already pretending to be at the swearing in ceremony. Lord.
Posted by kansas1946 at 06:11 PM : Nov 09, 2007

That''s not his wife? They look to be the same age...lol

[sftodd]

Someone needs to advise this campaign on photo ops -- that deer on the wall in the background looks more alive.

[kansas1946]

He''''s washed up and wasting money. Lot''''s of money. H''''d get more respect if he stepped down and donated to some charity.


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Posted by b-easy63 at 06:54 PM : Nov 09, 2007
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Bingo, easy. You hit the nail on the head. No one trusts him, because he sold his soul. He has had his nose so far up Bush''s rear since 2000, that I am surprised he can stand up. I would never vote for, or respect, anyone who wanted something so bad that they would turn their back on everything they stood for and all the people who supported them. Good bye, John.

[kansas1946]

That''''s not his wife? They look to be the same age...lol

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Posted by b-easy63 at 06:56 PM : Nov 09, 2007
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Yeah, it''s his mother. He started parading her out because some folks were thinking he might be too old to run for president. He is trying to make the point that he isn''t too old because his mom is still going strong at 90 something. The problem is, as you pointed out, they look the same age, so it may have backfired. Who wants to vote for a 90 year old!

[rushlimpdrug]

You mean his mother isn''t Barbara Bush? ?
I thought she was the mother of all Republicans.

[cfin5]

This has got to be one of the most "honest" pictures I''ve ever seen depicting the look one would have at the signing of a 3 million dollar loan. Spooks me just lookin'' at their faces. Gotta be a bit hard on the ticker.

[fairandbal]

McCain is totally fitting as a GOP candidate. Can''t manage his own personal finances and can''t manage the countries either. The GOP has destroyed this country''s economy and financial standing in the world, McCain can''t manage the finances of his own campaign.

Wake up folks!

And by the way, teh GOP Senate is fillibustinering EVERY action in the Senate. Funny how the MSM is calling the fillibuster normal now. they were all about getting rid of it when the Dems were using it.

We need a more independent media in this country. The MSM is all about protecting the GOP.

[tylenol6]

Mc Lame go home. You sold your soul. We don''t respect
you anymore. Loser!!!!!!!!!!!

[candide777]

MCLAIM? LOL!

[macusweil]

McCain''s been hanging out with Teddy Kennedy in the Senate too long. He''s looking more and more like a tax-n-spend kinda guy than a true conservation. Now John has to borrow money to pay for his failing presidential campaign. Maybe he can get a loan from Ron Paul.

CBS news should include more in depth stories about Congressman Ron Paul and his views for fixing our failed US monetary policy. I love his record of fiscal responsibility when so many other members of the GOP have adopted and bettered the free spending habits of the liberals & left wing Democrats.

Let''s get behind Dr. Paul and return the dollar to it''s rightful place among the global currencies. Under President Paul''s stewardship the US will move forward again as the greatest free nation on earth.

[candide777]

ARE ALL RON PAUL SUPPORTERS WHITE SUPREMACISTS?

"[C]ontrary to the claims of the supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the sponsors of H.Res. 676, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty." Ron Paul (2004)

If Ron''''s ideas about what is consitutional were to prevail, Missouri would pass laws prohibiting blacks from marrying whites and Georgia would require blacks to use different bathrooms and water fountains. The federal government stepped in on these issues because something needed to be done. Whereas George Bush Senior voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act because he is a racist, Ron Paul would have voted against it because he is out of touch with reality. Ron Paul is so wedded to principal that he cannot see the forest for the trees. We don''''t need a dogmatic conservative, we need a practical president with practical solutions. Let''''s have a president who can think for himself and recognize that there is no single one-size fits all solution to this country''''s problems. That''''s what you get with Ron Paul, an idiot who thinks that if you get rid of the federal government or totally disable it, all our problems will magically be solved.

[sgtrds]

So his mother tee''s off on Mormons with him on "Hardball with Chris Matthews". Well what the hel*l, Jimmy Carter had to put up with his brother Billy, so now Johnny has to put up with dear old mom.

[trueprophet]

HOPE FOR AMERICA: PRESIDENT RON PAUL

-- No more meddling in other country''s political affairs
-- No more aggressive military actions overseas
-- No more torture prisons
-- No more pseudo-wars like the "War on Drugs"
-- No more IRS and unconstitutional income taxes
-- No more Federal Reserve (the group of private banks which owns our government)
-- No more U.N. (one world government) participation
-- No more NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO or GATT
-- No more North American Union
-- No more federal gun control laws
-- No more illegal aliens pouring-in over our country''s borders
-- No more illegal aliens allowed to roam freely in our streets
-- No more federal Laws which are not authorized by The Constitution
-- No more federal erosion of State sovereignty
-- No more all-powerful (Orwellian) federal government

They don''t call him "Dr. No" for no reason. The Doctor is in! Join us in this 21st Century political revolution at ronpaul2008.com

"Liberty, when it takes root, is a plant of rapid growth."
- George Washington

"Those who expect to reap the blessing of freedom must...undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
- Thomas Paine

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
- Mahatma Gandhi

[trueprophet]

CBS NEWS PREJUDICED AGAINST RON PAUL
Most people can see right through the prejudice CBS News obviously has towards Ron Paul. In the few times they''ve covered him at all, I''m suprised they didn''t have one of their graphics artists Photoshop some devil horns on top of his head in that worst ever photograph they always use of him. CBS obviously thinks that if they pretend Paul isn''t a top-tier GOP candidate, then their readers and viewers will eventually think so too. Whenever they are is forced to do a story on Paul, because some other mainstream source is covering him for some reason, the fact that their editors work overtime to slant their stories in such a way as to either marginalize his accomplishment, or present Paul in the most negative light possible, is obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence. "What about their polls?," you ask? As far as the CBS News poll is concerned, they don''t even include Paul on the list of GOP candidates which pollees can choose from, and then afterwards, report to you that Paul doesn''t even rank in their final tally. Ron Paul is getting major grass roots support nationwide. He has over 60,498 meetup group members in 1,155 Groups from 904 cities nationwide, with another 7,033 people more folks just waiting to hear when a new meetup group will start near them. He''s won ALL of the viewer phone-in polls in ALL of the GOP debates he''s been in, and has raised more money ($4.2 million) in one day than any other GOP candidate ever. Go Ron Go!

[trueprophet]

RON PAUL CAN WIN THE ELECTION
Ron Paul can win the GOP nomination. If he does, I predict a landslide victory in November of 2008. Even the oddsmakers in Vegas aren''t willing to discount his chances. They''re currently giving him 3:1 odds to win against Hitlery if he gets the nomination. Romney, McCain and the globalist, sell-out Giuliani aren''t given anything better than a 35:1 chance of winning if they get the GOP nod. All it takes is for formerly apathetic individuals to get off the couch and nominate him in their local Republican primary or caucus process. Political parties are nothing more than tools. Those who read the manual and use the tools properly will win the nomination for their candidate. For the past 20 years, many good people have stayed at home and accepted whatever candidate they let others select for them. This year, those people are learning how to use their vote to make a difference. In order to do so, you must participate in the Republican primary election or caucus process in your county, precinct or district. Nothing else matters. If we do this, we win. If not, we lose. The GOP has been suffering from declining participation for decades. Fewer than 10% of registered voters have ALL the power because they actually participate. Now the remaining 90% must surge to use their vote as a tool to bring about positive and long overdue political change in this country. The time to act is now. The time for political revolution has come. The time for Ron Paul is NOW!

[trueprophet]

RON PAUL IS THE NEW WAY
What we need is a President who will show us the way. Not the old way. Not the same way, but a new way. Think about this for a minute. What if we pulled all of our troops out of South Korea? They''ve been there for 50+ years. What if we quit worrying about Iran, but instead, realized that its having a nuclear weapon will not mean the end of the world? What if we pulled all of our troops out of the Middle-East, and brought them all home? What if we realistically addressed the National Debt, and paid attention to REALLY DOING SOMETHING about stopping illegal immigration? These are the ideas of Presidential candidate, Ron Paul. He''s a ten term Congressman and a physician who has delivered over 4,000 babies. He''s an intellectual who''s published four books, three of which are devoted entirely to sound economics and one to foreign policy. He was raised on a dairy farm in Pennsylvania as a pious Lutheran, but now he attends a Baptist church. Paul is given to mulling things over morally. Whenever he recollects the helicopter pilots he treated as an Air Force Flight Surgeon (Captain) during the Vietnam War, a war which he now says was "totally unnecessary and illegal," he laments, "They were gung-ho. I''ve often thought about how many of those people never came back." Candidates with the high level of personal integrity and proven track record of adherence to The Constitution, Congressman Paul has always demonstrated only come around once in a lifetime, if we''re lucky.

[perception5]

Mitt Romney is the most viable "moderate" conservative in the Presidential race and the best qualified to bring new leadership with his vision for America''s future.

Governor Romney has an impressive resume to showcase. When elected governor in 2002 he assumed a monstrous 3 billion dollar deficit and put the state of Massachusetts back in the black without raising taxes.

Mitt also brought HEALTH INSURANCE TO ALL THE citizens of Massachusetts in 2006 WITHOUT raising taxes. Does anyone out there care about health care? Mitt''s been there done that.

His success in public office mirrors his record in the private sector at Bain Capitol where he reorganized and made household names of companies such as Domino''s Pizza and Staples.

Mitt also bailed out the U.S. Olympics in Salt Lake City in 2002, and turned a profit there for 100 million dollars. I have nicknamed Mitt, "the Rominator", for obvious reasons.

Candidate Romney graduated valedictorian in undergrad; then pursued a double degree at Harvard (M.B.A. and law) graduating in the top 5% of his class while doing so.

Romney has also taken a tough stance on terrorism and in an interview with the AP in June, Mitt indicated that he was "against" any permanent US bases in Iraq.

Romney currently leads all Republican candidates in New Hampshire, Iowa and Michigan, Nevada, and South Carolina.

That''s a couple of reasons why I''m voting for Mitt Romney.

[fibonacci_]

Ron Paul studied gynacology.

[mocalleo]

NOT BEING REPORTED ON CBS (not as of 9:14am)


SIOUX CITY, Iowa %u2014 Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton%u2019s campaign admitted Friday that it planted a global warming question in Newton, Iowa, Tuesday during a town hall meeting to discuss clean energy.


Where''s the liberals selective outrage on this ???

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[rowdytexan2]

Posted by mocalleo at 09:14 AM : Nov 10, 2007

Why should there be outrage? It was a question that she obviously wanted to address with the people. And did. It''s not any different than answering those stupid questions posed by those missing links at the last debate. Those questions were certainly planted!

[cfin5]

Where''''s the liberals selective outrage on this ???

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Posted by mocalleo at 09:14 AM : Nov 10, 2007======================="selective" is a very fitting word. Be nice to know how much of that goes on both sides.......I guess if King George''s FEMA can do it, then so can CLICK!....Die Fuhrlein Hitlery!

[speakinup]

"Why should there be outrage? It was a question that she obviously wanted to address with the people. And did. Posted by RowdyTexan2

Have you EVER even HEARD of INTEGRITY ?

Hillary planting the question in the crowd, then - Clinton called on Gallo-Chasanoff after her speech to ask a question: what Clinton would do to stop the effects of global warming. Clinton began her response by noting that young people often pose this question to her before delving into the benefits of her plan.

So right there she used her planted question to make it sound like young people wanted to know her plan!!!

But the Clinton campaign also denied the practice of planting. %u201CIt%u2019s not a practice of our campaign to ask people to ask specific questions,%u201D said Mark Daley, Clinton%u2019s Iowa Communications Director.

[fibonacci_]

I am not a democrat or (thank god) a republican, but I agree it is strange that CBS did not report on this. That is definately newsworthy.

[poopbreath]

McCain needs to withdraw and endorse Ron Paul.

[thgdriver]

Obama''''s record on firearms in Illinois not being reported on any where!

I cant get past Obama''''s support and passage of the stated law in Illinois that makes it a crime to protect your wife, son , daughter, and home against an intruder bent on doing you and your family harm.

The law states the because it''''''''s illegal to have a gun in your home, if you use one to protect yourself and family you are facing felony charges and probably going to jail.

In my opinion there is something horribly wrong with that kind of thinking.

"I Try To Stick To What I Think" I have not heard the media, bring up this "type of thinking of his" at all.

[macusweil]

McCain''s been hanging out with Teddy Kennedy in the Senate too long. He''s looking more and more like a tax-n-spend kinda guy than a true conservation. Now John has to borrow money to pay for his failing presidential campaign. Maybe he can get a loan from Ron Paul.

CBS news should include more in depth stories about Congressman Ron Paul and his views for fixing our failed US monetary policy. I love his record of fiscal responsibility when so many other members of the GOP have adopted and bettered the free spending habits of the liberals & left wing Democrats.

Let''s get behind Dr. Paul and return the dollar to it''s rightful place among the global currencies. Under President Paul''s stewardship the US will move forward again as the greatest free nation on earth.

[cfin5]

Posted by thgdriver at 11:31 AM : Nov 10, 2007 -------------------------------------------That''s right! I hope something like that never happens, but I''ll take a felony charge and jail time over a FUNERAL HOME CHARGE any day or night. I could never live with myself knowing I let some criminal/rapist/murderer have their way with my wonderful family. I don''t cow down on my predetermined decisions like those. I have thought well and thorough in this because I might not have time to balk in taking their life. I figure that the criminal decided to commit "suicide by homeowner", simple as that......Besides, there are some really good "Constitutional Lawyers" available for help on this issue.

[candide777]

I could never live with myself knowing I let some criminal/rapist/murderer have their way with my wonderful family. Posted by cfin5 at 02:47 PM : Nov 10, 2007

Oh, but you wouldn''t mind if your daughter got a hold of the gun and accidently shot your wife to death, which is far more likely. I see.

[candide777]

The law states the because it''s illegal to have a gun in your home, if you use one to protect yourself and family you are facing felony charges and probably going to jail. Posted by thgdriver at 11:31 AM : Nov 10, 2007

I highly doubt the law states the above and challenge you provide a legitimate source for that. You are still entitled to self-defense in Illinois, including defense of your family and even a friend. What the law probably says is that you will be charged for breaking the law, not for protecting your family. I think this is more propaganda from the gun-nuts who support Ron Paul -- you have to be careful because they often don''t report the facts accurately.

[cfin5]

candide777,......Guns don''t kill people, people with bad attitudes kill people. Playing with a firearm is part of having a bad attitude. Besides, since your candidates deem it OK to militarily attack a nation to prevent one here,.....using this same standard of judgment on a smaller scale pertaining to the safety of my family, how is it that you think it unconstitutional for me to defend myself and family on my own dirt? Especially when it is bleeding heart liberals who keep letting criminals out of prison time after time so they can do it all over again.......Pick a standard of understanding and stick with it.

[abdoul_pasha]

Who are these uncle and aunt at the photo?

[candide777]

Playing with a firearm is part of having a bad attitude. Posted by cfin5 at 03:25 PM : Nov 10, 2007
LOL!

how is it that you think it unconstitutional for me to defend myself and family on my own dirt? Especially when it is bleeding heart liberals who keep letting criminals out of prison time after time so they can do it all over again.......Pick a standard of understanding and stick with it.
Posted by cfin5 at 03:25 PM : Nov 10, 2007

First of all, no one is trying to get into your house to have his way with your wife and family. Stop being so paranoid.

Secondly, there you Ron Paul supporters go again, I do not think it unconstitutional for you to protect your family and I never said otherwise. Why do you people insist on twisting and distorting in order to make your point?

Thirdly, I am not in favor of letting violent offenders out of jail, so stick that anti-liberal propaganda where the sun don''t shine. If I had my way, anyone who rapes or murders in cold blood (and we are 100% certain of their guilt) ought to be put to death.

Fourthly, the criminal justice system is A$$ backwards in this country. You don''t solve crime by simply increasing penalties in a system that is fundamentally flawed to begin with. That''s a simple-minded republican approach to crime, probably endorsed by Ron Paul. What you do, well, I''ll tell you when I have more time.

[iceman_1960]

McCain"s mother is still alive ????

"(CNN) %u2014 The mother of Sen. John McCain criticized the religion of one of her son"s competitors for the Republican presidential nomination Friday night.

When asked about former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney"s experience by Hardball host Chris Matthews, Roberta McCain, who"s campaigning in New Hampshire with her son at the age of 95, said "as far as the Salt Lake City thing, he"s a Mormon and the Mormons of Salt Lake City had caused that scandal. And to clean that up, it''s not a subject."

Romney was selected to head up the Salt Lake Organizing Committee for the 2002 Winter Olympic Games after a bribery scandal tarnished the Games.

"Well, that"s my view. You asked me," Mrs. McCain followed.

After a commercial break, Sen. McCain further tried to distance himself from his mother"s comments."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

[randumbguy]

Funny, a Repulican who doesn''t have any money. Well, I guess Bush is happy running the country on credit, why not McCain too?

[cfin5]

Oh, but you wouldn''''t mind if your daughter got a hold of the gun and accidently shot your wife to death, which is far more likely. I see.


Posted by Candide777 at 03:09 PM : Nov 10, 2007---------------
If you don''t like someone insinuating you then don''t ask for it by smackin'' off with the above post. And don''t tell me there isn''t a day that goes by that the evening news somewhere lacks a home invasion story with plenty of murders committed also.....Paranoid? No, just smart. I never said that "you" were a bleeding heart liberal either, just stating a fact.....Other than that, You really need to get some reading comprehension training, and some debate skills to fix that troll like shallowness of yours while your at it.

[vastr-wcon]

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McCain getting a loan? That''s got be one of those bottom-of-the-barrel SUB-PRIME loans.

The reason McCain has to get a loan is that his multi-millionaire, beer distributor wife won''t invest so much as a dime in his campaign. At least she has some sense!


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[denn034]

Politicians getting loans comes with the territory of high advertising costs, etc. The high cost of running for public office excludes most American''s from serving and that''s a bad thing in a supposedly representative democracy. Something definitely needs to be done about it.

[howcould]

Cable companies charge us 3 times. Once for the monthly fee, twice for the advertising we gotta see, and three times for the cost of operating our democratic elections. And then they go invent things like peckkker scandals..

[howcould]

They say this country is run by Washington, but I don''t believe it.

[howcould]

I don''t wanna sound ignorant or anything, but who exactly have been the people hijacking our democracy? Our destinies.. Not me. I don''t care about no war on terror, nor no peckkkerscandals. In fact, theres very little I see on the teevee today I actually do care about. Who knows.. it all could be someone''s artificial invention. And I wouldn''t know (nor care) about it.

[howcould]

But one things for sure: The price of drama is expensive.

[howcould]

Go home, John McCain. You''re a dramatist. An overly emotional eevangelical sympathist. Who fights war and plays games in that other video game. The video game of politics.

[candide777]

Other than that, You really need to get some reading comprehension training, and some debate skills to fix that troll like shallowness of yours while your at it.
Posted by cfin5 at 04:49 PM : Nov 10, 2007

LOL -- I should learn how to make ad hominen attacks, so I can be more persuassive like you? Paranoid gun nut.

[candide777]

a home invasion story with plenty of murders committed also
Posted by cfin5 at 04:49 PM : Nov 10, 2007

Okay, show me one story this month where someone broke into a home and had his way with the wife and daughter while the husband stood by helplessly without a gun. Bet you can''t. :-)

[candide777]

The problem with the gun nuts in this country is that they don''t realize that you can''t get the guns out of criminals hands until you stop manufacturing millions of guns each year. I would very strongly support legislation that would allow victims of shootings to sue the maker of the gun. You see a lot less guns ending up in criminal hands if that were the law. As it is, the gun makers have HUGE economic incentive to make sure criminals in this country get a hold of as many guns as they want, much like drug dealers want to see criminals have as much access as possible to drugs. Protecting the home is a big lie purchased by the gun industry with millions of dollars each year so they can continue supplying criminals in this country with guns.

[tibu987]

Save your money Johnny, it is all over for you.

[cfin5]

The problem with the gun nuts in this country is that they don''''t realize that you can''''t get the guns out of criminals hands until you stop manufacturing millions of guns each year. I would very strongly support legislation that would allow victims of shootings to sue the maker of the gun. You see a lot less guns ending up in criminal hands if that were the law. As it is, the gun makers have HUGE economic incentive to make sure criminals in this country get a hold of as many guns as they want, much like drug dealers want to see criminals have as much access as possible to drugs. Protecting the home is a big lie purchased by the gun industry with millions of dollars each year so they can continue supplying criminals in this country with guns.

Posted by Candide777 at 06:25 PM : Nov 10, 2007------------------- I''m a little disappointed that you have shown your cards that quickly. Your easy!......By the way, the high profile mass murder/suicide atrocities happened in what kind of "free zone"? What is the murder rate in England where they have the strictest of gun control measures?........Ron Paul, the walk his talk, pro-constitution candidate for 2008! GO USA!!!

[candide777]

I''m a little disappointed that you have shown your cards that quickly. Your easy!

Yep, unlike the repugnant republicans who lie right through their teeth about their true agenda every time they open their mouths (including, Ron Paul), I put my cards right out on the table. You got me!

Now, shouldn''t you be out shooting a gay whale for Jesus?