ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Nov. 8, 2007

Musharraf: Pakistan Elections In February

Meanwhile, Opposition Party Says 5,000 Supporters Were Arrested Before Rally

    • Pakistani lawyers chant slogans at a rally against President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's imposition of emergency rule, Wednesday, Nov. 7, 2007, in Peshawar Pakistan. Photo

      Pakistani lawyers chant slogans at a rally against President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's imposition of emergency rule, Wednesday, Nov. 7, 2007, in Peshawar Pakistan.  (AP Photo/Mohammad Zubair)

    • This image taken from video shows U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan Anne Patterson listening to a question from CBS News correspondent Sheila MacVicar in Islamabad, on Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007. Photo

      This image taken from video shows U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan Anne Patterson listening to a question from CBS News correspondent Sheila MacVicar in Islamabad, on Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007.  (CBS)

    • This image taken from video shows U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan Anne Patterson, right, during a meeting in Islamabad with Pakistan's Chief Election Commissioner Irshad Hasan Khan, on Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007. Photo

      This image taken from video shows U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan Anne Patterson, right, during a meeting in Islamabad with Pakistan's Chief Election Commissioner Irshad Hasan Khan, on Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007.  (CBS)

    • Police officers in uniform and plain clothes clash with lawyers in Multan, Pakistan on Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007. Lawyers again clashed with police as Pakistan's President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's government considered when to hold elections amid growing international pressure to end emergency rule and restore democracy in Pakistan. Photo

      Police officers in uniform and plain clothes clash with lawyers in Multan, Pakistan on Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007. Lawyers again clashed with police as Pakistan's President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's government considered when to hold elections amid growing international pressure to end emergency rule and restore democracy in Pakistan.  (AP Photo/Khalid Tanveer)

    • Lawyers hold a protest rally against President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's imposition of emergency rule, Thursday, Nov. 8, 2007, in Islamabad, Pakistan. Photo

      Lawyers hold a protest rally against President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's imposition of emergency rule, Thursday, Nov. 8, 2007, in Islamabad, Pakistan.  (AP Photo/Anjum Naveed)

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(CBS/AP)  Pakistani police backed by an armored vehicle surrounded the Islamabad home of opposition leader Benazir Bhutto on Friday, and officials said she had been detained in her house ahead of her planned rally against emergency rule.

Bhutto was not formally under house arrest, Information Minister Tariq Aziz said. But “we will not allow any leader to carry out any rally. The law is equal for everybody and anyone violating it will be dealt with accordingly,” he told The Associated Press.

The move against Bhutto came amid a broader crackdown on her supporters, who were planning to rally later Friday near Islamabad against President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's emergency rule. Bhutto's party said some 5,000 of its supporters have been rounded up in the last three days, and riot police were out in force in nearby Rawalpindi, the city where the rally was to take place.

Bhutto’s planned rally Friday will almost certainly end in confrontation, reports CBS News correspondent Sheila MacVicar from Islamabad.

Outside Bhutto's home in an upscale Islamabad neighborhood, dozens of police, some in riot gear, had taken up positions, laying barbed wire and erecting concrete barriers.

“She's not going anywhere today,” said an officer, who did not give his name.

Bhutto supporters decried the move. “It shows that the government is scared of Benazir Bhutto's popularity and it does not want her to be among masses,” said Babar Awan, one of her close aides.

He added that the leadership of her Pakistan People's Party, the country's largest political party, would try to reach Rawalpindi for the protests.

That seemed unlikely: police had blocked the roads leading to the nearby city and were out in force there, patrolling on foot, horseback and motorcycle.

Bhutto, a former prime minister, had been in talks with Musharraf on a post-election political alliance. But she pulled back after the emergency was imposed, and her decision to join in anti-government protests was another blow for Musharraf, who has seen his popularity slide this year amid growing resentment of military rule and increasing violence by Islamic militants.

Critics argue that Musharraf, who seized power in a 1999 coup, suspended the constitution, blacked out dozens of TV news networks and ousted independent-minded judges to maintain his own grip on power. The moves came days before the Supreme Court was expected to rule on whether his recent re-election as president was legal.

Musharraf said the measures were needed to put an end to political instability and to fight Taliban and al Qaeda-linked militants.

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She's not going anywhere today.

Police officer, who wished to remain anonymous
Under U.S. pressure, he announced Thursday that elections would be held by mid-February.

But Bhutto dismissed the move, and pledged to go ahead with Friday's protest, despite a ban on public rallies and fears it could be targeted by suicide bombers.

It would have been her first rally since last month, when she returned to the country following eight years in exile to contest the parliamentary polls. That procession was shattered by suicide bombers, leaving more than 145 people dead. Islamic militants were widely blamed.

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by samael2014 November 8, 2007 7:24 AM PST
"My message was very plain, very easy to understand, and that is, the United States wants you to have the elections as scheduled and take your uniform off," Mr. Bush said during a news conference with French President Nicolas Sarkozy in Virginia.

And we''re all just supposed to ignore or forget what this dictator has already done and accomplished with this lasting atrocity against democracy in Pakistan. Just take the uniform off and hold elections, and lets just forget about declaring martial law to purge the courts of people who object to your dictatorship and to arrest those who speak out against you for high treason and lets just move on and forget about this business.

You see laws, justice and democracy don''t apply to individuals like you and me who are above such things, they are simply things to be allowed or manipulated by us as we see fit, the Decider has spoken.
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by realpatriot1 November 8, 2007 8:06 AM PST
samael2014,

It will be up to the next Pakastani government to decide how to hold Musharif accountable.

He''s obviously playing for time by moving the elections from the original January schedule to February. The real issue which remains up in the air is how much freedom will the candidates and public have to campaign and assemble in the interim.
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by taotxzen November 8, 2007 8:55 AM PST
(cont)
Returning Pakistan to civilian government has been a declared goal of the United States since Musharraf seized power in 1999 in a bloodless military coup. He has repeatedly broken promises to move in that direction, using his power vindictively and squandering popular support by intimidating anyone who tried to stand up to him. Most of the time, Bush, who says he cannot win the anti-terrorism war without Musharraf but clearly can''t win it with him either, acquiesced in his misdeeds.
The Faustian nature of the bargain is more apparent than ever. Not only has the general proven less committed to the anti-terrorism fight than expected (Al Qaeda and the Taliban are resurgent on the border with Afghanistan), but now he has abandoned any pretense of moving toward democracy. Bush seems to have gained little leverage from the more than $10 billion in American aid that has fattened Pakistan''s coffers since Sept. 11, 2001, much of it unaccounted for.

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by taotxzen November 8, 2007 8:56 AM PST
The Pakistan mess

Published: November 6, 2007

By imposing martial law, General Pervez Musharraf has pushed nuclear-armed Pakistan further along a perilous course and underscored the failure of President George W. Bush''s policy toward a key ally in the war on terrorism. The events should not have come as a surprise to administration officials. This is what you get when policy is centered slavishly on a single, autocratic ruler rather than more broadly on his country.

The general, Pakistan''s president, justified his crackdown as a defense against Islamic militants, but his desperate and reprehensible actions - suspending the Constitution, rounding up judges, beating and jailing lawyers and journalists - will embolden extremists. They will also fuel anger and mistrust among Pakistani moderates.

(cont)
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by taotxzen November 8, 2007 9:06 AM PST
Go Figure:

Nuclear Weapons:
Iran: No
Pakistan: Yes

Osama bin Laden:
Iran: No
Pakistan: Yes

Leader that imposes martial law, suspends the Constitution, rounds up judges, beats and jails journalists along with hundreds of opposition party members and shuts down the media so that it cannot report on events and share their opinions with the public.
Iran: No
Pakistan: Yes

Large quantities of Oil:
Iran: Yes
Pakistan: No
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by antoniof123 November 8, 2007 9:33 AM PST
Well, neocons now what you are the decider''s for America. So what now are you going to attack them and Iran and the rest of the world.

God I hope our country can hold together for another 12 months get rid of all neocons they have destroyed this country to almost the point of no return.
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by lochlan-2009 November 8, 2007 10:05 AM PST
As long as the elections are under internationally oversight. Fraud, in a country that arrests you if they catch you saying anything negative about Musharef... What happens if you vote against him?
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by fredgrad2000 November 8, 2007 10:21 AM PST
Go Figure: Amended post from tantxzen

Nuclear Weapons:
Iran: No (but trying and rulers support terrorist organizations bent on destroying Israel; government who starts its official meetings with chants of "Death to America")
Pakistan: Yes

Osama bin Laden:
Iran: No (Al Qaeda agents allowed to operate freely, yes)
Pakistan: Yes (In areas it has never controlled in its history; that the British and Russians couldn''t control either)

Leader that imposes martial law, suspends the Constitution, rounds up judges, beats and jails journalists along with hundreds of opposition party members and shuts down the media so that it cannot report on events and share their opinions with the public.
Iran: No (are you kidding; they beat opponents, women who don''t dress "properly", journalists, execute minors for having ***, and there IS no opposition party to beat; they''ve all already been killed or jailed)
Pakistan: Yes

Large quantities of Oil:
Iran: Yes
Pakistan: No
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by forthepeopl1 November 8, 2007 10:45 AM PST
SO GO AHEAD AMERICANS BE WEAK, THIS IS COMMING....IT IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION,TIME TO STOP BUSH/CHENEY


The violence broke out after an estimated 80,000 ant-iBUSH demonstrators - led by university students - marched peacefully to the Supreme Court to protest constitutional changes that would greatly expand BUSH/CHENEY power if voters agree to the changes in December. Unrest, if it continues, could mar a Dec. 2 referendum on the controversial reforms
The amendments being protested would abolish presidential term limits, give the president control over the Central Bank and let him create new provinces governed by handpicked officials.
The protesters demand the referendum be suspended, saying the amendments would weaken civil liberties and give BUSH AND CHENEY unprecedented power to declare states of emergency.
``Don''''''''t allow AMERICA to go down a path that nobody wants to cross , during the march to the Supreme Court.
BUSH, who was first elected in2000, denies the reforms threaten freedom. He says they would instead move AMERICA toward what he calls ``21st century socialism.''''''''''''''''
In televised comments prior to the unrest, BUSH urged ALL AMERICANS to turn out en masse to vote for the reforms. In reference to the opposition, he said: ``Don''''''''t go crazy.''''''''''''''''

SO GO AHEAD AND VOTE HER IN AMERICA, AND SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT...

WITH 250 MILLION AMERICANS THEY CANT KILL US ALL..TIME FOR A REVOLUTION.
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by antoniof123 November 8, 2007 10:58 AM PST
Go Figure: Amended post from fredgrad2000

Nuclear Weapons:
Trying does not equal have and also it has not been proven they are attempting to build a bomb so give that propaganda a rest I grew up during the cold war years it doesn''t fly anymore.
Pakistan: Yes

Osama bin Laden:
He is a Sunni while Iran is Shiite they hate each other so no they can not operate freely in Iran once again give the propaganda a rest.
Pakistan: Yes they are mostly Sunni.

Leader that imposes martial law, suspends the Constitution, rounds up judges, beats and jails journalists along with hundreds of opposition party members and shuts down the media so that it cannot report on events and share their opinions with the public.
Iran: They have election and a term limit on the office of President the people choice. Once again give the propaganda a rest.
Pakistan: Yes

Large quantities of Oil:
Iran: Yes (The only reason the neocons want to attack Iran) The rest of the world isn''t buying this time and we are so weak we can''t.
Pakistan: No

Why do neocons try propaganda still and swift boating we are tired of it and are not buying it either.
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by kingreb09 November 8, 2007 11:33 AM PST
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 12:02 PM PST
LOOK WHO LOVES AMERICA

BUT THE IDIOT STINKING SILLY LITTLE LIBERAL SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST DEMONIC-RATS STILL DO NOT

SO WHAT COUNTRY WILL THEY GO TO NOW HAHAHA

''We love America,'' Sarkozy tells Congress
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071107171938.06pkhw1y&show_article=1&lst=1
Sarkozy hails ''strong'' France-US friendship
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071107170044.ctsk1ycd&show_article=1&lst=1
Sarkozy Throws Open His Arms to Bush, and U.S.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/07/world/europe/07france.html?_r=2&ref=world&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 12:13 PM PST
Musharaf should reach an agreement with Benazeer Bhuto because they two can destroy the extremism in Pakistan and introduce real democratic regime
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 12:17 PM PST
And my opinion is that the monarchy is more prosperious and sensible form of government
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by j-whitman November 8, 2007 12:21 PM PST
terrorislam4-Lars,,,,, Stick your face in the toilet & give it a few flushes
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 12:34 PM PST
In my country there are lections after 2 weeks and I have much work because of them
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 12:35 PM PST
fascist nazi terrorislam and all that jazz

Jazz musician gets 15 years for backing al Qaeda
Musician gets 15 years for backing al Qaeda
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0757391520071107?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&rpc=22&sp=true
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 1:06 PM PST
FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM STILL PRACTICES SLAVERY

NRI couple charged with slavery
Varsha Mahender Sabhnani, 35, and her husband Mahender Murlidhar Sabhnani, 51.
The women, identified as Nona and Samirah, said they were expected to hide when someone came to the house. They were forced to work for long hours, made to sleep on mats in the kitchen and Sabhnani also allegedly made remarks derogatory to their religion -- Islam.
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/may/24nri.htm
LI housekeepers held as slaves, tortured
Among other fragrances, he sells a popular perfume called Royal Mirage through several corporations, including PVM International
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/ny-bzslav0516,0,1513272.story
NRI Mahender Murlidhar Sabhnani popular perfume owner, charged for keeping servants as prisoners
NRI Mahender Murlidhar Sabhnani have a perfume business and operate from their 2.5 multimillion dollar home. He owns a trademarked popular perfume named "Royal Mirage", which he sells through several corporations, including Royal Mirage Corp., RTD International, Eternal Love Perfumes Corp., PVM International Corp., and Meena Arjan Corp.
http://www.nriinternet.com/NRI_Discrimination/USA/2007/Mahender_%20Sabhnani/index.htm
Modern day slavery scandal rocks New York
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/modern-day-slavery-scandal-rocks-new-york/2007/05/24/1179601521848.html
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by realpatriot1 November 8, 2007 1:09 PM PST
fredgrad2000,

There''s no argument to the fact that when OBL fled from Afghanistan to Pakastan he was wounded and his army was in tatters. The official story is that we had him in our sites but he "got away".

In other words, once the Afghan tribes who we sub-contracted his capture to allowed him to cross the border into Pakastan, the Pakastanis didn''t pick up the trail or weren''t there to greet him on the trail.

If he was in our sites then our "chief ally in the war on terror" knew where he was as he entered their sovereign territory.

Apparently, OBL can enter the country without violating Pakastan''s sovereignty but American forces can''t and Pakastani forces are content to let him roam freely, even when he''s injured and unable to make a quick get away and has nowhere else to go.

Now he holds terrorist graduation ceremonies in open mountain valleys that should be fully visible to our recon satellites and Taliban troops travel back and forth between Pakastan & Afghanistan hunting our troops.

Some ally.
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 1:11 PM PST
Posted by forthepeopl1 at 10:45 AM : Nov 08, 2007

take your revolution to fascist nazi terrorislamic countries, they need it,,,

the usa is the best country in the world
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by realpatriot1 November 8, 2007 1:15 PM PST
Abdoul-Pasha,

I''ve prayed that such an acommodation could be reached for Pakastan.

Bhutto was willing but Musharif has reneged, as he has done on ll of his committments.

The man is a liar and if he wanted to confront the extremists he would''ve already done so.

It''s time for a new leader to confront the problems in Pakastan.
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 1:24 PM PST
BE AFRAID,,, BE VERY AFRAID,,,
PICTURE FASCIST NAZI GERMANY WITH NUKES,,,

WAKE UP! The Crisis in Pakistan Is Much More Dangerous Than You Think
Musharraf''s Emergency Crackdown Is Anathema to Everyone Who Cherishes Human Rights and Democracy. But His Grip on Power Is Slipping Just as Islamic Extremists Are Escalating Their Bloody Insurgency. If They Succeed in Overthrowing Musharraf and Seizing Power, al-Qaida Will Gain Access to Pakistan''s Nuclear Weapons.
http://www.skeeterbitesreport.com/2007/11/wake-up-crisis-in-pakistan-is-much-more.html

Iran could have nukes by 2009
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1192380749027&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 1:24 PM PST
Yes, I also suppose Bhutto is more approppriate leader but they both have to cooperate with all other political forces against the extremism
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 1:32 PM PST
every time when I pray, I pray God to clean the extremism from our religion and all other religions and I thank him that in my country there are not existing fundamentalist movements
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 1:33 PM PST
THE DANES HAVE WOKEN UP TO FASISCT NAZI TERRORISLAM IMMIGRATION PROBLEM

WILL THE DEMONIC-RATS

FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM IS
Persona non grata

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WE ARE AT WAR STUPID

Bush to Democrats: ''We Are at War''
President Bush compared Congress'' Democratic leaders Thursday with people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century, saying "the world paid a terrible price" then and risks similar consequences for inaction today.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071101/D8SL1G202.html
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 1:34 PM PST
Posted by Abdoul_Pasha at 01:32 PM : Nov 08, 2007

what country is that?

HEROES IN THE FIGHT AGAINST FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM!!!

Young Muslims begin dangerous fight for the right to abandon faith

A group of young Muslim apostates launches a campaign today, the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on America, to make it easier to renounce Islam.

The provocative move reflects a growing rift between traditionalists and a younger generation raised on a diet of Dutch tolerance.

The Committee for Ex-Muslims promises to campaign for freedom of religion but has already upset the Islamic and political Establishments for stirring tensions among the million-strong Muslim community in the Netherlands.

Ehsan Jami, the committee%u2019s founder, who rejected Islam after the attack on the twin towers in 2001, has become the most talked-about public figure in the Netherlands. He has been forced into hiding after a series of death threats and a recent attack.

The threats are taken seriously after the murder in 2002 of Pim Fortuyn, an antiimmigration politician, and in 2004 of Theo Van Gogh, an antiIslam film-maker.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2426314.ece
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 1:40 PM PST
I don`t contact with such sick people as you
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 1:55 PM PST
Posted by Abdoul_Pasha at 01:40 PM : Nov 08, 2007

name for me please, one islamic country that grants equal rights to non muslims?
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by nolalou November 8, 2007 2:28 PM PST
Posted by Abdoul_Pasha at 01:40 PM : Nov 08, 2007

name for me please, one Islamic country that grants equal rights to non Muslims?

Ok, how about Lebanon, where there is a large Christian population, and in fact, by law, the president is always a Christian. Lebanon''s prime minister must be a Sunni Muslim, and the speaker of parliament must be a Shiite. Seats in parliament are evenly divided between Christians and Muslim.
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 2:36 PM PST
In my country the Christiansd are pribilleged- they are not more than 6% of the population but they hold at least 20% of the high posts in the state and economic!
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 2:43 PM PST
Posted by nolalou at 02:28 PM : Nov 08, 2007

Lebanon is not an islamic country,,, yet,,, theough lez-balless want to make them one,,,
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 2:44 PM PST
Posted by Abdoul_Pasha at 02:36 PM : Nov 08, 2007

and what country would that be???

do they grant non muslims equal rights by the constitution snd by enforcing it or not???
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 2:46 PM PST
Yes, they have equal rights and keep top positions in the political, economical and social life
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 2:49 PM PST
Posted by Abdoul_Pasha at 02:46 PM : Nov 08, 2007

name the country then
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 2:55 PM PST
I don`t want to tell this
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 2:59 PM PST
Posted by Abdoul_Pasha at 02:55 PM : Nov 08, 2007

why not? if what you say is true, it should not be dangerous to tell it, why not make it known and be proud of it
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 3:04 PM PST
I`m not sure, maybe some idiots like you will knock onmy door tomorrow and I have family which I must protect!
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 3:09 PM PST
Posted by Abdoul_Pasha at 03:04 PM : Nov 08, 2007

the only people that will knock on your door would be the terrorislamists, do you have them in your country?
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by Syndicate November 8, 2007 3:11 PM PST
The answer to the question is Iraq.
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by topprophet November 8, 2007 3:15 PM PST
What we need is a President who will show us the way. Not the old way. Not the same way, but a NEW WAY. Think about this for a minute. What if we pulled all of our troops out of South Korea? They''ve been there for 50+ years. What if we quit worrying about Iran, but instead, realized that its having a nuclear weapon will not mean the end of the world? What if we pulled all of our troops out of the Middle-East, and brought them all home? What if we realistically addressed the National Debt, and paid attention to REALLY DOING SOMETHING about stopping illegal immigration? These are the ideas of Republican Presidential candidate, Dr. Ron Paul. He''s a ten term Congressman and a physician who has delivered over 4,000 babies. He''s an intellectual who''s published four books, three of which are devoted entirely to sound economics and one to foreign policy. He was raised on a dairy farm in Pennsylvania as a pious Lutheran, but now he attends a Baptist church. Paul is given to mulling things over morally. Whenever he recollects the helicopter pilots he treated as an Air Force Flight Surgeon (Captain) during the Vietnam War, a war which he now says was "totally unnecessary and illegal," he laments, "They were gung-ho. I''ve often thought about how many of those people never came back." Candidates with the high level of personal integrity and proven track record of adherance to The Constitution, Congressman Paul has always demonstrated only come around once in a lifetime, if we''re lucky.
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 3:16 PM PST
I`m not from Iraq!
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by topprophet November 8, 2007 3:16 PM PST
Sadly, even though Clinton voted for the war in Iraq, and a host of Laws aimed at removing your liberties, so many Democrats are blinded by her cult of personality that I predict they will overwhelmingly vote to put her crime family back into office. While I''ve made some progress in educating Liberals as to the phony staged consensus of the left-right paradigm, the fact remains that a majority of Democrats still see the White House as some kind of political Super Bowl, where the success of their "team" is the be all and end all - to the expense of America as a whole. The Punch and Judy show theatre that was the "troop surge" debate in the Senate characterizes Hillary''s role in hoodwinking Americans perfectly. The debate is framed as not whether the U.S. should get out of the Middle-East altogether, but the relative minutia of whether to feed thousands of more troops into the meat grinder or not. Clinton''s Campaign Manager recently compared Hillary to Margaret Thatcher, which translates as more war, more dead Americans, and a further desecration of the tattered shreds of what''s left of our Constitution. Clinton is the ultimate global elitist and represents the Democrats supposed base, the poor and downtrodden, about as much as Lindsay Lohan represents grace and dignity. I''m sure she informed the likes of David Rockefeller and Queen Beatrix as to her presidential aspirations during her last visit to attend the Bilderberg conference. Vote for a REAL AMERICAN. Vote for Ron Paul.
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 3:17 PM PST
Posted by cbscrash07 at 03:11 PM : Nov 08, 2007

wrongggg

Being non-Muslim in Islamic nations means ''protection''--and problems.(World: Iraq)
The official term for this right is "dhimmitude." The world''s foremost expert on the subject, Bat Ye''Or, coined the word in 1983 to describe the legal and social condition of Jews and Christians (dhimmis) subjected to Islamic rule. Broadly interpreted, it appears benign: Non-Muslims enjoy a protected status among their Muslims neighbors: But dhimmitude becomes problematic because its supposed safeguards and protections can be withdrawn as selectively as they are applied by rulers or governments of Islamic states.

In Iraq, as in other predominately Muslim states, Christianity has existed side by side with Islam for centuries. For some observers (as well as those who experience it firsthand), the status of Christians is not one of cheery coexistence. Rather, it may be more like the old racial divides in the United States, where blacks lived near, but not integrated into, white society, and where they "kept their place"--separate and unequal.

In a July 24 interview with NCR, Baghdad Archbishop Jean Sleiman, leader of Iraq''s Latin Catholic church, said that in Iraq, "Christians and Muslims can I-live] side by side--but only side by side. Side by side, but not equally. No mixing, no integration."
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-121763784.html
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by topprophet November 8, 2007 3:17 PM PST
With the full support of Senators Clinton, Obama and McCain, President Bush recently signed into Law the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, which, according to Senator Leahy (VT), will actually "encourage the President to declare Martial Law." It does so by revising the Insurrection Act, a set of Laws that limits the President''s ability to deploy troops within the United States. The Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C.331 -335) has historically, along with the Posse Comitatus Act (18 U.S.C.1385), helped to enforce strict prohibitions on military involvement in domestic Law enforcement. With one cloaked swipe of his pen, Bush has now undone those prohibitions. Public Law 109-364, or the John Warner Defense Authorization Act (H.R.5122) (2), which was signed by the President in a private ceremony, allows the President to declare a "public emergency," suspend Congress and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of your Governor or local authorities, in order to "suppress public disorder." President Bush seized this unprecedented power on the very same day that he signed the equally odious Military Commissions Act. In a sense, the two Laws compliment one another. One allows for torture and detention abroad of those who dissent and are stripped of their citizenship, while the other seeks to enforce acquiescence at home, preparing to order the military onto the streets of America. STOP THIS MADNESS! Vote for Ron Paul.
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by topprophet November 8, 2007 3:18 PM PST
My fellow Americans just don''t seem to care that our nation, along with The Constitution upon which it was founded, is being flushed-down the NWO toilet by our nations'' bought and paid for politicians and media. While the Oligarchs warn and insite fear in the sheeple about the prospect of terrorism, they at the same time leave our border wide open, and fund and conduct illegal wars overseas that do nothing but encite the terrorism which their Orwellian Laws like the Patriot Act and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act pretend to protect us from. Wake up America! It''s not about protecting you from terrorism, or saving the planet from Global Warming, or any of that other fear-mongering garbage the sold-out, mainstream media feeds you 24/7. It''s about feeding the bankers and the military industrial complex, and facilitating the global elite''s ability to ratchet-down control over the American people, placing us into a total control grid where they can surveille, track and control everywhere we go and everything we do. It''s the groundwork for totalitarianism. It''s the New World Order plan of Bush, Clinton, Edwards, McCain, Giuliani, et.al., being executed quite beautifully. You''re a frog in a pot. In order to cook a frog, you don''t throw him into a pot of boiling water. If you do, he''ll resist and jump-out. What you do instead is, you turn the heat-up REAL SLOW, and by the time the water is boiling he won''t be able to jump out anymore, because it''s too late--he''s already doomed.
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 3:18 PM PST
Posted by Abdoul_Pasha at 03:16 PM : Nov 08, 2007

he did not say you were, he was trying to say iraq grants equal rights to non muslims, they did not and they still do not
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 3:27 PM PST
I was born in Palestine, today I have new homeland!
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by terrorislam4 November 8, 2007 3:31 PM PST
Posted by Abdoul_Pasha at 03:27 PM : Nov 08, 2007

syria
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by denn034 November 8, 2007 3:34 PM PST
Bush''s balanced stand for democracy and supporting allies made this possible. Musharraf should be applauded for going ahead with elections. Go job, Bush!
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by abdoul_pasha November 8, 2007 3:42 PM PST
Ah, God Protects me from living in syria
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