Edwards' Immigration Stand Muddled

Politico: Dem Hopeful Accuses Clinton Of Double-Talk, But Experts See Problems With His Position

(The Politico)  This story was written by Ben Smith.

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Former Senator John Edwards (N.C.) has been accusing his rival Sen. Hillary Clinton (N.Y.) of double-talk for a week, since she refused to say clearly whether illegal immigrants should get driver's licenses - but his own position on the issue is also incoherent, experts say.

Immigration policy experts on both sides of the debate say they're puzzled by Edwards’ stance, which appears to hinge on blurring the distinction between state and federal powers.

"He supports licenses as part of a path to citizenship. He doesn't support the Spitzer plan because it doesn't include a path to citizenship," said Edwards' deputy campaign manager Jonathan Prince in an e-mail referring to the New York governor’s plan that prompted the question that flummoxed Clinton.

"That's not a rational position - Eliot Spitzer couldn't ever offer somebody a path to citizenship," said Margie McHugh, the Co-Director of the National Center on Immigrant Integration Policy at the Migration Policy Institute, which favors immigration reform.

"I don't know if they think you're stupid or what they think," said Frank Sharry, the executive director of the National Immigrantion Forum, another broadly pro-immigration policy shop.

Sharry laughed aloud when read Prince’s statement of Edwards’ position.

That is "sort of like saying I oppose the confederate flag in Southern states because there's not a corresponding flag burning amendment to it. It's nonsensical," Sharry said.

Indeed, opposing Spitzer's plan on those grounds amounts to de facto opposition to any driver's licenses for illegal immigrants, something Edwards and his aides have not previously stated.

That's a dramatic shift from Edwards' stand in 2004, when he told "Hardball's" Chris Matthews, "I'm for it," when asked about licenses for illegal immigrants.

Edwards may be changing his position to court working-class Iowa voters, among whom illegal immigration is an emotionally charged issue.

However, his effort to soft-pedal the change seems aimed at a party establishment that is resisting populist anti-immigration forces, and hopes to win the vast bulk of the Hispanic vote in the general election.

In Philadelphia last week, moderator Tim Russert asked the seven Democratic candidates, "Does anyone here believe an illegal immigrant should not have a driver's license?"

Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd was the only one to indicate opposition.

In the wake of the debate, Edwards aides told reporters that he favors driver's licenses for illegal immigrants, but opposes Spitzer's plan for other reasons. 

They did not say that he opposes all efforts to extend licenses to illegal immigrants unless taken in the context of "some future comprehensive reform."

He and his campaign appear not to have been asked that question directly.

"Two of Mrs. Clinton's opponents, Senator Barack Obama and John Edwards, support granting licenses to illegal immigrants, although Mr. Edwards has problems with elements of Mr. Spitzer's proposal," The New York Times reported Nov. 1.

Politico reported that an Edwards aide "said after the debate that Edwards also supports issuing licenses to illegal immigrants, which is the most controversial element of Spitzer's plan."

In an interview Sunday on “This Week,” Edwards also seemed to limit his opposition.

"You wouldn't give them a driver's license?" asked host George Stephanopolous.

"Not under those circumstances, not if they have an opportunity to become an American citizen and they're choosing not to," Edwards replied, referring to the federal legislation which has not passed.

Prince said Wednesday that Edwards does, in fact, oppose any state attempt to give licenses to illegal immigrants under existing federal law.

But for state plans to include a path to citizenship "would be imossible," said Angela Kelley, the director of the Immigration Policy Center at the American Immigration Law Foundation.

"The drivers licenses will be issued by a state entity. The states are pre-empted."

Clinton has avoided taking a clear position on the New York policy, though she expressed support for the quandary in which governors find themselves.

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, meanwhile, said he favored Spitzer's plan.

Kelley said some of the murkiness around the issue is understandable.

"These are such complex issues and the candidates are clearly struggling both to understand the policy and to walk a tightrope on the politics," she said.

Meanwhile, other immigration experts are still struggling to understand the details of the candidates' stances.

"Hillary seems unable to give an answer, and it's hard to say that Edwards’ answer is all that clear," said Steve Camarota, the policy director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which lobbies to restrict immigration and opposes drivers licenses for illegal immigrants.

"Obama has the one clear answer: give them drivers licenses."

[xlib]

Duh!!

[slim1h2o]

Hey, John Edwards, here''s a novel approach, Just say "NO" to illegal Immigration!

[nyfilmmaker]

Politicians and Americans for that matter should take a look at "American Harvest." Its a non-partisan feature length documentary about immigration as it relates to agriculture. It presents the facts as they are without political bias.

http://www.americanharvestmovie.com

American Harvest Synopsis

Anti-immigration sentiment sweeps across America. A journey from Florida to New York, including a trip to the Mexican border, reveals the lives and issues of legal and illegal migrants and farmers working toward a better life. Is the immigration system in America flawed? Immigrants are dying to feed America.

American farmers and agriculture rely on immigrants to do jobs that Americans won''t do or feel that are simply beneath them. Some only see the problems in the news from the perspective of those extreme points of view of the left and the right side of our political system.

Discrimination of immigrants has existed in the United States since the English persecuted the Irish. It was once generally considered that if you were Greek or Southern Italian you were not white.

American Harvest points out the inconsistencies of the current policy on immigration. See the changing face of immigrant America as it relates to Agriculture.

Follow legal and illegal farm workers and the farmers caught in the middle of a flawed immigration policy.

[DrColes]

Illegal Aliens and Immigration is NOT the same thing. 80% of the American people want an end to anarchy!

Illegal aliens are criminals, those who hire them are criminals and those who aid-and-abet them are criminals.

Illegal aliens in America have NO rights. We are required by law to arrest and prosecute, deport them. (Title 8 U.S. Code) To report illegal aliens call the DHS National Hotline 1 866 DHS 2ICE. (1-866-347-2523)

No, matter your political party affiliation, and setting aside your thoughts on issues. We all need to remember what it is to be an American Citizen. We need to make sure our elected representatives obey their Oath of Office and keep their Oath of Allegiance. See http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl Know whom you are voting for.

[starleo146]

Hey, John Edwards, here''''s a novel approach, Just say "NO" to illegal Immigration!

Posted by slim1h2o at 01:38 PM : Nov 08, 2007

Yeh John, Are you talking out of both sides of your mouth? Are you hedging? If you say you are for immigration Americans will make you pay, If you say no you will lose the spanish vote, and you do not want that, isn''t this the very thing that you are trying to do to Hillary make her choose, and you know either way she loses. This is what we need, what is it you said, honesty, and straight forwardness. What you thought you were doing to Hillary you only did to your own democratic party, and to further you in this election at Hillary''s expense.You have to cut her down so you will have a chance, right.We expect this from a republican but a democrat to a democrat, No.

[starleo146]

If you say you are for immigration Americans will make you pay, If you say no you will lose the spanish vote,

I meant to say illegal immigration Americans are not against immigration only illegal immigration.

[slim1h2o]

We expect this from a republican but a democrat to a democrat, No.

Posted by starleo146 at 02:22 PM : Nov 08, 2007

Problem is, all politicians do this. And that''s the problem with this country, we can''t trust any candidates. We''re always going for the lesser of two evils. That''s got to change, we should be going for the best candidate. Where are they?

[starleo146]

Problem is, all politicians do this. And that''''s the problem with this country, we can''''t trust any candidates. We''''re always going for the lesser of two evils. That''''s got to change, we should be going for the best candidate. Where are they?




Posted by slim1h2o at 02:39 PM : Nov 08, 2007


I agree all politicians do this , it does not make it right, and that was my point. He could disagree with Hillary, but he was giving the American populace the impression Hillary was talking out of both sides, he doesn''t do it to any other democratic challenger ,to the extent he does it to Hillary, I feel he can disagree without making the other person look like a liar or criminal.

[starleo146]

Problem is, all politicians do this. And that''''s the problem with this country, we can''''t trust any candidates. We''''re always going for the lesser of two evils. That''''s got to change, we should be going for the best candidate. Where are they?




Posted by slim1h2o at 02:39 PM : Nov 08, 2007


I agree all politicians do this , it does not make it right, and that was my point. He could disagree with Hillary, but he was giving the American populace the impression Hillary was talking out of both sides, he doesn''t do it to any other democratic challenger ,to the extent he does it to Hillary, I feel he can disagree without making the other person look like a liar or criminal.

[slim1h2o]

I feel he can disagree without making the other person look like a liar or criminal.

Posted by starleo146 at 02:51 PM : Nov 08, 2007

And that would take true Statesman to achieve that, and they no longer exist.

[prinzowhales]

Edwards last plan for Iraq called for removing combat arms forces from the country and leaving support and training personnel there...recipe for a massacre.

He is a New World Order Bilderburger who wants to keep the borders open and continue to fight the war against the Iraqi people. Clinton, Obama and Edwards can swap spit and lies till November 5, 2008, trying to develop a ''product'' that people will be stupid enough to buy...much like the toxic stew of a campaign that Karl Rove cooked up in 2000 that gave us Bush...

[signof4]

It doesn''t take an ''expert'' to see a problem with Edwards'' position.....on anything. He hasn''t got one.

[starleo146]

And that would take true Statesman to achieve that, and they no longer exist.

Posted by slim1h2o at 03:00 PM : Nov 08, 2007

You are so right once more.You have made some great points and I thank you for all of them.Wish we could find a way don''t you. Remember that movie Mission Impossible,it goes for both sides.

[slim1h2o]

Posted by starleo146 at 03:17 PM : Nov 08, 2007

Yes I do wish we could find a way. But people smart enough, with enough money, etc, etc, don''t want put themselves on to the firing lines. And I for one don''t blame them. But some one has to make a stand, and get this country into the 21 century, or at least make this country great again. And thank you for agreeing with me, not many like us are out there.

[slim1h2o]

Oh, and BTW, I never did see that movie. So I''m not sure what point you were making. My bad!

[slim1h2o]

Posted by starleo146 at 03:17 PM : Nov 08, 2007

If the candidates would simply speak in a clear, concise manner, we wouldn''t need any experts to tell us what they meant. Instead we get politco. speak, double speak, and, well you name it. We get everything but the truth. Nice, huh?

[denn034]

His being a Democrat would explain the muddle.

[tomar0317]

Illegal is illegal.... no benefits, PERIOD!!!

[dbl06]

Your assertation that Senator Dodd was the only candidate who oppossed giving drivers license to illegals is only partially correct. True, if you mean, of the ones that were asked during the debate. Joe Biden was not given an opportunity to answer until after the debate when he was asked by Chris Matthews and he responded "against". Mr Smith, professionals get the facts straight. Go back, watch the Biden-Matthews interview and correct your mistake. Just for the record, Biden the most experienced and most knowledgable of all the candidates got the least amt of time to answer questions. He got 6 minutes, less than the time for commercial breaks. Is it the media or the American people who are driving the election cycle?

[bill1fj]

Which candidate will come right out and say they will grant NO AMNESTY to any illegal alien, will enforce existing laws, and will fine and/or jail any one that hires illegal aliens?
No double talk. No if, ands, or maybes.
Thats the one I''m looking for.

[prairiefox1]

THE MEXIVADERS SHOULD GET (NOTHING)!

[adian1-2009]

It''s like I have said previously. Edwards is not a good choice for us Democrats. These expressions of his is pure demagoguery. Being a lawyer, he must know that there is nothing the NY Governor can do to create any pathway to US citizenship. That field is entirely occupied by the Federal Government. If he thinks that Hispanics will bite that one, he is wrong. In fact, his position is an insult to the Latin intellect. Even though Ms. Clinton has not come down with an outright answer yet --even after her latest explalnations-- her non-answer is better than Edwards aimed-to-cheat Latins pseudoanswer. All of it after having such a long time to think how he would answer. That benefit was not accorded to Ms. Clinton during the last debate. Down with Edwards!

[tylenol6]

EDWARDS IS SCUM........ VOTE RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT IF
YOU WANT THE CONSTITUTION BACK.........The majority of
the military donations to the candidates goes to RON PAUL. Don''t believe me??? Check it out yourself.

[tylenol6]

Hey hypocrite EDWARDS, now do you understand why you always come in LOW IN THE POLLS?????

[pepperp1]

Edwards has no position on any issue other than like Rudy or any Repug he says dont look at me what I have or have not done, look at bad girl Hillary the evil one, I am a saint see my halo, its her its her really.
Edwards is a failed politician who has stayed way past his shelf life and is dragging down his party with unethical skeeeeby political tactics.

[excoachken]

O.K. Now that you xenophobes have spit out you anger, how about a better plan for tracking aliens, whether it be a terrorist or everyday Pablo who might not be paying his child suport, than to require identification via a "legally obtained licence." You seem so blinded by racism that you fail to see the benefit of such documentation as opposed to the present system which allows people with just an easily obtainable fake social security card to get a driver''s licence in most states. So, tell me you "better idea."

[likeitis5050]

So, tell me you "better idea."

Who really believes illegals are going to come out of hiding and apply for a driver''s license that indicates they are undocumented? The better idea? How about enforcing the current laws. Whoa!!! That''s radical! How about giving every business 6 months to validate all social security numbers on payrolls and call the authorities on invalid numbers? How about making sanctuary facilities, and state/federal assistance programs liable for aiding and abeiting criminals? How about making it really difficult for the illegal to walk across the border and take root because jobs, food, housing, and healthcare are waiting for them as soon as they get here? How about we speed up the process that grants legal residency to immigrants waiting to get here so that beyond background checks and innoculations, they are legal in days, not weeks or months? Who cares how tight the border is if it is virtually impossible for them to get jobs, assistance, or sanctuary within facilities that hesitate losing not-for-profit/tax exempt status if they break the law? The Democrats have worked hard convincing people it''s a problem too big to get a handle on, and just like all their other attempts to break the system down, it''s not working. Candidates who have shown they are weak on border control and getting rid of illegal immigrants are going to find the walk to the White House uphill all the way.

[oleander8]

Edwards tactics are more in keeping with the republican party - stick him with a fork...he''s done.

[prinzowhales]

Edwards did propose to break up the big media combines...I guess even one with the blessings of the Bilderbergers can get away with only so much muddled thinking.

[excoachken]

I read your ideas, none of them new, none of them better and NONE acted upon by the fear mongering present administration, so why not try Spitzer''s new approach which many terrorism experts have more confidence in than you.

[guydanieli]

What about an Amnesty? You do not see how small we are compared to EU and China...?

It''s fast and we will know who is in the country.We have no other choice. We cannot deport 20 million people. It will be very bad for what left of our economy.

Edwars is right. But you do not understand !

YOu always trust Bush''s lies...You se where we are now!!!

We will not waste our time and money talking about something that we must do.

And now, we can talk money if we still have some and stop those stupid wars that we will lose anyway...

[tulcak]

what the hell does the argument over federal and state jurisdiction have to do with anything? we used to act as one country, until those who were angry that the confederacy lost the civil war wanted to bring back the idea of states dominating over the federal government. This is schizophrenic. Either we are one nation made up of states or we have 50 separate countries. GD, I hate states rights people...

[guydanieli]

I agree with Tulcak
This is not the United States anymore.
We are similar to the EU.
In the US, states are making the laws.
This is not normal at all. And for that reason, we are losing everything
I never a so divided nation in my entire life!

Can you image how stupid it it is to give a driver''s license to illegals.

I really do not understand. If they have and in my opinion they must have a driver''s license and an insurance.

Edwars is right ! We must make them legals .

An illegal with Drivers licence must be legal automaticaly !

So, you can drive but you can be deported . I really do not get it.

We need to make those people legals . It''s the only way to have a clear situation.

[fitedafuture]

very strange if this also happened to the thousands of Italian,British and Russian immigrants who came to this country in the early 20th century..,which in time all became citizens,,give these people a break, if they can help the economy, LET THEM STAY...

[fitedafuture]

pointing fingers is easy and we are quick to judge people by the way they look, but whos a terrorist and whos a family guy just trying to make a living? who are we to judge?

[fitedafuture]

one thing i wont muddle is my mind with impertinency..

[solongug]

Those who oppose giving drivers licences to illegals have eyes that can''t see.I support the Governor''s plan which will bring them out of the shadows and into the system.And you know what? Whether you give them the licences or not,they will always be there and driving and you will not prevent them.

[tucano2]

Any public person who fails to come right out and insist Illegal Aliens be deported is anti-American, and ought not be elected to anything whatsoever.

[signof4]

''Edwards'' Immigration Stand Muddled''

Nawwwwwwwww........say it ain''t so!

[signof4]

Any public person who fails to come right out and insist Illegal Aliens be deported is anti-American, and ought not be elected to anything whatsoever.
Posted by tucanofulano at 12:04 PM : Nov 09, 2007

AMEN! McCain sure got the message.

[trueprophet]

HOPE FOR AMERICA: PRESIDENT RON PAUL

-- No more meddling in other country''s political affairs
-- No more aggressive military actions overseas
-- No more pseudo-wars like the "War on Drugs"
-- No more IRS and unconstitutional income taxes
-- No more Federal Reserve (the group of private banks which owns our government)
-- No more U.N. (one world government) participation
-- No more NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO or GATT
-- No more North American Union
-- No more federal gun control laws
-- No more illegal aliens pouring-in over our country''s borders
-- No more illegal aliens allowed to roam freely in our streets
-- No more federal Laws which are not authorized by The Constitution
-- No more federal erosion of State sovereignty
-- No more all-powerful federal government

They don''t call him "Dr. No" for no reason. The Doctor is in! Join us in this 21st Century political revolution at ronpaul2008.com

[trueprophet]

HOPE FOR AMERICA: PRESIDENT RON PAUL

-- No more meddling in other country''s political affairs
-- No more aggressive military actions overseas
-- No more pseudo-wars like the "War on Drugs"
-- No more IRS and unconstitutional income taxes
-- No more Federal Reserve (the group of private banks which owns our government)
-- No more U.N. (one world government) participation
-- No more NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO or GATT
-- No more North American Union
-- No more federal gun control laws
-- No more illegal aliens pouring-in over our country''s borders
-- No more illegal aliens allowed to roam freely in our streets
-- No more federal Laws which are not authorized by The Constitution
-- No more federal erosion of State sovereignty
-- No more all-powerful federal government

They don''t call him "Dr. No" for no reason. The Doctor is in! Join us in this 21st Century political revolution at ronpaul2008.com

[trueprophet]

I agree with Ron Paul about the issue of illegal immigration. The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. Ron Paul has a plan: (1.) Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals. (2.) Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. Law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas. (3.) No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That''s a lot of people to reward for breaking our Laws. (4.) No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules, but taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services. (5.) End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong. (6.) Pass true immigration reform. The current system, and those proposed by ALL other candidates, is incoherent and unfair, and would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country. Vote for Ron Paul.

[trueprophet]

I agree with Ron Paul about the issue of illegal immigration. The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. Ron Paul has a plan: (1.) Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals. (2.) Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. Law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas. (3.) No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That''s a lot of people to reward for breaking our Laws. (4.) No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules, but taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services. (5.) End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong. (6.) Pass true immigration reform. The current system, and those proposed by ALL other candidates, is incoherent and unfair, and would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country. Vote for Ron Paul.

[rokero69]

Deporting wont work.....
that is just a band aid,
Instead of investing in Prison camps and sending bombs to the middle east. invest in education,
invest in equality towards your neighbors, quit propping up Strong, Men dictators as were done during reagan/bush. quit Starting wars in Latin America,
This is a result of warmongering from the 80 in your
own backyards, set the whole place back 40 years.

[rowdytexan2]

I don''t understand this at all. I can see some benefit to making them ID''s of some kind. But wouldn''t they be immediately rounded up and transported back if they showed up to get an ID? They are illegal. They need to go home and apply for proper working visa''s to be here at all.

I had an employee give me a false SS and ID. She had been here all her life. Went to school here, got pregnant and had a baby here in the hospital. Then decided she needed to be legal to stay here with her baby, asked for vacation time to go visit her grandparents in Mexico. When she didn''t come back after a month, I found out from another employee that she was here illegally and was still in Mexico waiting for her papers to come back.

Now how did she attend high school here? How did she go to a hospital here and have a baby? How was she able to do this, when others are rounded up and taken back on sight!?

It''s just nuts!!!

Edwards is a flake, he wouldn''t know a straight answer if he heard one. Next to Guiliani, he''s the worset candidate on the campaign stage. To keep from answering questions he has no clue what the answers are...he continues to criticize Hillary, yet he criticizes no one else!

The man''s a junior high goof ball out to get more hedge fund money!

[trueprophet]

RON PAUL IS THE NEW WAY
What we need is a President who will show us the way. Not the old way. Not the same way, but a new way. Think about this for a minute. What if we pulled all of our troops out of South Korea? They''ve been there for 50+ years. What if we quit worrying about Iran, but instead, realized that its having a nuclear weapon will not mean the end of the world? What if we pulled all of our troops out of the Middle-East, and brought them all home? What if we realistically addressed the National Debt, and paid attention to REALLY DOING SOMETHING about stopping illegal immigration? These are the ideas of Presidential candidate, Ron Paul. He''s a ten term Congressman and a physician who has delivered over 4,000 babies. He''s an intellectual who''s published four books, three of which are devoted entirely to sound economics and one to foreign policy. He was raised on a dairy farm in Pennsylvania as a pious Lutheran, but now he attends a Baptist church. Paul is given to mulling things over morally. Whenever he recollects the helicopter pilots he treated as an Air Force Flight Surgeon (Captain) during the Vietnam War, a war which he now says was "totally unnecessary and illegal," he laments, "They were gung-ho. I''ve often thought about how many of those people never came back." Candidates with the high level of personal integrity and proven track record of adherence to The Constitution, Congressman Paul has always demonstrated only come around once in a lifetime, if we''re lucky.

[trueprophet]

RON PAUL PLANS TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
I agree with Ron Paul about the issue of illegal immigration. The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. Ron Paul has a plan: (1.) Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals. (2.) Enforce Visa rules. Immigration officials must track Visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their Visa or otherwise violates U.S. Law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired Visas. (3.) No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That''s a lot of people to reward for breaking our Laws. (4.) No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules, but taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services. (5.) End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong. (6.) Pass true immigration reform. The current system, and those proposed by ALL other candidates, is incoherent and unfair, and would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country.

[terrorislam5]

DEMONIC-RATS NEVER LEARN AS THEY REWARD THE GRASSHOPPER AND TAX THE ANT

The Ant and the Grasshopper

In a field one summer''''s day a Grasshopper was hopping about, chirping and singing to its heart''''s content. An Ant passed by, bearing along with great toil an ear of corn he was taking to the nest.

"Why not come and chat with me," said the Grasshopper, "instead of toiling and moiling in that way?"

"I am helping to lay up food for the winter," said the Ant, "and recommend you to do the same."

"Why bother about winter?" said the Grasshopper; we have got plenty of food at present." But the Ant went on its way and continued its toil. When the winter came the Grasshopper had no food and found itself dying of hunger, while it saw the ants distributing every day corn and grain from the stores they had collected in the summer. Then the Grasshopper knew:

It is best to prepare for the days of necessity.
http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Aesop/Aesops_Fables/The_Ant_and_the_Grasshopper_p1.html

[klingon69]

Which candidate will come right out and say they will grant NO AMNESTY to any illegal alien, will enforce existing laws, and will fine and/or jail any one that hires illegal aliens?
No double talk. No if, ands, or maybes.
Thats the one I''''m looking for.
Posted by bill1fj at 04:43 PM : Nov 08, 2007
None will, they might alienate(lol) a very vocal group of anchor babies and pro-illegal supporters. No candidate wants to be called a bigot/racist...