Climate Is A Risky Issue For Democrats

Washington Post: Could Candidates' Costly Proposals Hurt Them Next Year?

(Washingtonpost.com)  This story was written by Juliet Eilperin.

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All of the leading Democratic contenders for the presidency are committed to a set of cuts in greenhouse gas emissions that would change the way Americans light their homes, fuel their automobiles and do their jobs, costing billions of dollars in the short term but potentially, the candidates say, saving even more in the decades to follow.

Former senator John Edwards (N.C.), who from the outset has made global warming one of the three pillars of his campaign, explains his ambitious plan to Democratic primary voters in terms of sacrifice.

"I know what presidential candidates are supposed to do; they roll in here every four years and they promise you this, they promise you that. What I'm going to do is tell you the truth," Edwards says at nearly every campaign stop. "It won't be easy, but it is time for a president who asks Americans to be patriotic about something other than war."

The strong medicine Edwards and his fellow candidates are selling -- an 80 percent cut in greenhouse gases from 1990s levels by 2050 -- tracks with a plan espoused by scientists. But it is a plan that will require a wholesale transformation of the nation's economy and society.

In a speech yesterday in Iowa, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) said she plans to address climate change and the nation's energy needs by launching an effort to require U.S. vehicles to average 55 miles per gallon by 2030 and providing $20 billion in "Green Vehicle Bonds" to help the auto industry transform to production of more efficient cars. Clinton estimated that by 2030, her plan would cut foreign oil imports by two-thirds compared with current projections.

"This is the biggest challenge we've faced in a generation -- a challenge to our economy, our security, our health and our planet. It's time for America to meet it," Clinton said. ". . . I believe America is ready to take action, ready to break the bonds of the old energy economy and ready to prove that the climate crisis is also one of the greatest economic opportunities in the history of our country. . . . It will be a new beginning for the 21st century."

According to energy expert Tracy Terry's analysis of a recent Massachusetts Institute of Technology study, under the scenario of an 80 percent reduction in emissions from 1990 levels, by 2015 Americans could be paying 30 percent more for natural gas in their homes and even more for electricity. At the same time, the cost of coal could quadruple and crude oil prices could rise by an additional $24 a barrel.

"I'd be the first to tell you: This is not necessarily the greatest political calculation," Edwards acknowledged in an interview, adding that audiences tend to pause before expressing their support when he lays out his climate plan. "No matter what the politics are, there's such a moral responsibility to address this issue. We've got to do it."

In a Des Moines speech last month, Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) predicted that new technology will ultimately bring rising energy costs back down. "But at least on the front end, there's going to be some costs, and we can't pretend like there's a free lunch," he told the crowd.

While Democrats are working to outdo each other on climate change -- New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, for example, supports a 90 percent greenhouse gas reduction by midcentury -- GOP presidential candidates remain more skeptical, to say the least. Former senator Fred D. Thompson (Tenn.) stands by his commentary on National Review Online that warming on other planets has led some people "to wonder if Mars and Jupiter, non signatories to the Kyoto Treaty, are actually inhabited by alien SUV-driving industrialists who run their air-conditioning at 60 degrees and refuse to recycle."

Former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said in the wake of Gore's Nobel Prize win that when it comes to global warming, "if we try to deal with it at too hysterical a pace, we could create problems."

Among Republicans, only Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) -- who began crusading against climate change after a heckler dressed as a penguin followed him around New Hampshire during his 2000 presidential bid -- backs a specific, 60 percent cut in greenhouse gases by 2050. Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee endorsed a mandatory carbon cap last month but has not laid out specifics.

[signof4]

''The planet has a fever'' HA! Man mad global warming, and maybe global warming itself, is the greatest scam ever perpetrated on the world. It reminds me of the War of tHe Worlds and H. G. Wells.

[pakaal]

"Climate Is A Risky Issue For Democrats"

Hmm, risky in the sense that Big Oil can''t stand the thought of losing their record profits and will do anything to avoid that? Or risky in the sense that we still have enough head-in-the-sand climate change deniers in the US to make it politically risky to take action?

The bad news is that the greater risk is doing nothing, so good luck to our last hope for sanity and doing the necessary; the Democrats.

[juwboy]

A question for all of you hand-wringing global warming worry-warts:

Which climate phenomenom CURRENTLY causes more deaths?

A. A cold winter.
B. A hot summer.

Answer. A, by a couple of orders of magnitude.

So, shouldn''t we be doing everything we can to encourage and accelerate global warming until we achieve a balance in the two numbers?

[bptdude]

"We the American people have the means at hand to obsolete the burning of hydrocarbon fuels and harness the forces of nature to produce the economy of the future. This is a future where Hydrogen is the fuel, and a standard set by our government, and counted on by our nation and all the world as universal means of energy distribution. This pure clean resource has to be manufactured, but can be done with by any and all means possible. In the short term, we will use our vast resources of oil, coal, gas, and nuclear to produce it, doing our best to eliminate carbon output on the manufacturing end. We will also bootstrap many green source means of producing hydrogen, including solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, tidal, and any other means the ingenious minds of this nation can devise.

America will lead the world in a new path, that will not set out to starve our economies as a solution, but one that will ultimately lead to vast quantities of inexpensive energy that will raise the standard of living of all peoples on this planet. For that is the way America solves problems.

In the spirit of Ronald Reagan, the solution is not to devise more philosophical ways to divide the pie and tell the hungry people each piece tastes better, the solution is to find a way to make the pie bigger.

[kjvprophet]

I predict that in the near future Earth will be dominated by a powerful, one world government. Once free nations are slaves to the will of a tiny, global elite. The dawn of a new dark age is upon mankind. Countries are a thing of the past. Every form of independence is under attack, with the family, even the individual itself, nearing extinction. Close to 80% of the Earth''s population has been eliminated. The remnants of a once free humanity are forced to live within highly controlled, compact, prison-like cities. Travel is highly restricted. Superhighways connect the mega-cities and are designed to keep the population from entering into unauthorized zones. No human activity is private. Artificially intelligent super computers chronicle and catagorize a person''s every action. A prison planet run by a ruthless gang of control freaks, whose power can never be challenged, will dominate. This is the vision of Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, and their fellow members of The Bilderberg Group. Their goal: a program of total dehumanization, where the science of tyranny is Law. A worldwide control grid, designed to ensure the overlords'' monopoly of power forever. Our species will be condemed to this nightmare future unless the masses are awakened to their New World Order master plan, and mobilized to defeat it. Erected secretly, the Georgia Guidestones are a testament to their totalitarian plan for a world religion; global Laws; a global court; and a global army to enforce those Laws.

[kjvprophet]

On one of the highest hilltops in Elbert County, Georgia stands a huge granite monument. Engraved in eight different languages on the four giant stones that support the common capstone are 10 Guides, or commandments. That monument is known as The Georgia Guidestones. Though relatively unknown to most people, it is an important link to the Occult Hierarchy that dominates the world in which we live. The origin of that strange monument is shrouded in mystery because no one knows the true identity of the man, or group, who commissioned its construction. All that is known for certain is that in June 1979, a well-dressed, articulate stranger visited the office of the Elberton Granite Finishing Company and announced that he wanted to build an huge, Stonhenge-like edifice to transmit a message to mankind. He identified himself as R. C. Christian, but it soon became apparent that was not his real name. He said that he represented a group who wanted to offer direction to humanity, but to date, more than two decades later, no one knows who R. C. Christian really was, or the names of those he represented. However, many researchers, such as myself, are now convinced that he represented The Bilderberg Group. Several things are certain, though. The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields: (1) Governance and the establishment of a world government, (2) Population and reproduction control, (3) The environment and man''s relationship to nature, and (4) Spirituality.

[kjvprophet]

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million would require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world''s people through a massive eugenics program, which would no doubt involve forced sterilization programs, such as those that were prevailant here in the U.S. prior to WWII, and the intruduction of genetically engineered (race/gender-specific) viruses. The Georgia Guidestones'' reference to establishing a World Court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a one world government. The Guidestones'' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality. The message of the Georgia Guidestones also foreshadow the current drive for Sustainable Development. Any time you hear the phrase "Sustainable Development" used, you should substitute the term "Socialism" to be able to understand what is intended. If you get some extra time, read the "Earth Charter" which was compiled under the direction of Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong (also Bilderbergers). In that document you will find an emphasis on the same basic issues: control of reproduction, world governance, the importance of nature and the environment, and a new spirituality. The similarity between the ideas engraved on the Georgia Guidestones and those espoused in the Earth Charter reflect the common origins of both.

[kjvprophet]

What is the true significance of the Georgia Guidestones, and why is its covert message important? Because it confirms the fact that there was a covert group, which had a huge amount of money to spend on a granite monument, which wanted the world to know that it was intent on

(1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
(2) Promoting environmentalism.
(3) Establishing a world government.
(4) Promoting a new spirituality.

Certainly, the group that commissioned the Georgia Guidestones, whether it was The Bilderberg Group, or whomever, there are, undeniably, many similar groups working together toward a New World Order, a new world economic system, and a new world spirituality. Behind those groups, there are some dark dastardly forces at work. Without understanding the nature of those forces it is impossible to fully understand the unfolding of world events. However, the fact that most Americans have never heard of the Georgia Guidestones and the message they send to humanity reflects the degree of control that exists today over what the American people see, hear and think. We ignore that message at our peril.

[kjvprophet]

Since its first meeting over 50 years ago, the Bilderberg Group, a secretive gathering of global power brokers, which includes Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, et.al., has inspired layer upon layer of ridicule. In recent times, the deeds laid at the group''s doorstep have included the creation of the European Union, the invasion of Iraq as well as the group''s current efforts to create a North American Union, which will erase U.S. borders and national sovereignty. All to service its most cherished goal: the creation of a world government. After it was reported that a well-received speech by Senator John Edwards at their meeting in Stresa, Italy, was one reason for his selection as John Kerry''s vice-presidential running mate in 2000, people began to ask, "Is the Bilderberg Group now molding the worldwide political scene?" Over 120 of the world''s most powerful monarchs, politicians and business leaders attend the annual, invitation-only gatherings to discuss global issues and to formulate their own policy objectives. The hotels involved are closed-off to other guests, and to reporters. Guards are placed around the perimeter. Attendees promise to keep quiet about what they hear and say. "They do not have to sign anything, but they understand that they do not talk," said Maja Banck-Polderman, the organization''s Secretary. Tony Gosling, a British reporter who has followed the group says, "I think that a forum where so many rich and powerful people meet should be open to public scrutiny."

[kjvprophet]

When I consider our federal governments claim that we should give-up our civil liberties in order to protect ourselves from terrorism, or that we should pay a global Carbon Tax administered and enforced by the U.N. (coming soon) because mankind is to blame for global warming, two quotes come to mind:

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda minister

"That propaganda is good which leads to success, and that is bad which fails to achieve the desired result. It is not propaganda''s task to be intelligent, its task is to lead to success."
- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister

[kjvprophet]

While the Oligarchs warn and insite fear in the sheeple about the prospect of terrorism, they at the same time leave our border wide open, and fund and conduct illegal wars overseas that do nothing but encite the terrorism which their Orwellian Laws like the USA Patriot Act and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act pretend to protect us from.

Earth is heating up lately, but so are Mars, Pluto and other worlds in our solar system. It''s undeniable, scientific fact. The sun''s increased activity is the common thread which links all of these planetary warming events. Fluctuations in solar activity has always affected the climate on Earth and other planets. The majority of climate scientists and astrophysicists agree that the sun causes an uptick in global temperatures on Earth. Mankinds impact on our planet is greatly exaggerated. You could take all six billion people on Earth and fit them into an are no bigger than New England.

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself, and those who would exploit our fear for power and their own personal, selfish, cynical gain."
- Franklin D. Roosevelt

[kjvprophet]

With the full support of Senators Clinton, Obama and McCain, President Bush recently signed into Law the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007, which, according to Senator Leahy (D-Vermont), will actually "encourage the President to declare Martial Law." It does so by revising the Insurrection Act, a set of Laws that limits the President''s ability to deploy troops within the United States. The Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C.331 -335) has historically, along with the Posse Comitatus Act (18 U.S.C.1385), helped to enforce strict prohibitions on military involvement in domestic Law enforcement. With one cloaked swipe of his pen, Bush has now undone those prohibitions. Public Law 109-364, or the John Warner Defense Authorization Act (H.R.5122) (2), which was signed by the President in a private Oval Office ceremony, allows the President to declare a "public emergency," suspend Congress and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of your Governor or local authorities, in order to "suppress public disorder." President Bush seized this unprecedented power on the very same day that he signed the equally odious Military Commissions Act. In a sense, the two Laws compliment one another. One allows for torture and detention abroad of those who dissent and are stripped of their citizenship, while the other seeks to enforce acquiescence at home, preparing to order the military onto the streets of America.

[kjvprophet]

Wake up America! It''s not about protecting you from terrorism, or saving the planet from Global Warming, or any of that other fear-mongering garbage the sold-out, mainstream media feeds you 24/7. It''s about feeding the bankers and the military industrial complex, and facilitating the global elite''s ability to ratchet-down control over the American people, placing us into a total control grid where they can surveille, track and control everywhere we go and everything we do. It''s the groundwork for totalitarianism. It''s the New World Order plan of Bush, Clinton, Edwards, McCain, Giuliani, et.al., being executed quite beautifully. You''re a frog in a pot, my friends. In order to cook a frog, you don''t throw him into a pot of boiling water. If you do, he''ll resist and jump-out. What you do instead is, you turn the heat-up REAL SLOW, and by the time the water is boiling he won''t be able to jump out anymore, because it''s too late--he''s already doomed.

[Syndicate]

If we do nothing, nothing at all. We will eliminate all green house gas emissions by 2050. Its already in the cards. We have already made the big investments to start the process. It is already accounted for in future budgets. All we have to do is wait another ten years to finish the research and implement the technology. Its called ITER. YOu can read more at www.ITER.org

We need to spend money on developing soloar technology. We need better batteries. not mandated reductions.

Any ways I still dont get global warming I really don''t get how the atmosphereic concentration of CO2 jumping from 0.000385% (today) to 0.000500% (50 years from now) will warm the Earth. yes I understand that co2 can absorb more heat energy. but give me a break. IS that .0005% of co2 going to absorb enough energy to heat the other 99.9995% of the atmosphere? I bet no. I only bet on sure things. I can''t stand to loose my money.

[kjvprophet]

I predict that in the near future Earth will be dominated by a powerful, one world government. Once free nations are slaves to the will of a tiny, global elite. The dawn of a new dark age is upon mankind. Countries are a thing of the past. Every form of independence is under attack, with the family, even the individual itself, nearing extinction. Close to 80% of the earth''s population has been eliminated. The remnants of a once free humanity are forced to live within highly controlled, compact, prison-like cities. Travel is highly restricted. Superhighways connect the mega-cities and are designed to keep the population from entering into unauthorized zones. No human activity is private. Artificially intelligent super computers chronicle and catagorize a person''s every action. A prison planet run by a ruthless gang of control freaks, whose power can never be challenged, will dominate. This is the vision of Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, and their fellow members of The Bilderberg Group. Their goal: a program of total dehumanization, where the science of tyranny is Law. A worldwide control grid, designed to ensure the overlords'' monopoly of power forever. Our species will be condemed to this nightmare future unless the masses are awakened to their New World Order master plan, and mobilized to defeat it. Erected secretly, the Georgia Guidestones are a testament to their totalitarian plan for a world religion; global Laws; a global court; and a global army to enforce those Laws.

[kjvprophet]

On one of the highest hilltops in Elbert County, Georgia stands a huge granite monument. Engraved in eight different languages on the four giant stones that support the common capstone are 10 Guides, or commandments. That monument is alternately referred to as The Georgia Guidestones, or the American Stonehenge. Though relatively unknown to most people, it is an important link to the Occult Hierarchy that dominates the world in which we live. The origin of that strange monument is shrouded in mystery because no one knows the true identity of the man, or men, who commissioned its construction. All that is known for certain is that in June 1979, a well-dressed, articulate stranger visited the office of the Elberton Granite Finishing Company and announced that he wanted to build an edifice to transmit a message to mankind. He identified himself as R. C. Christian, but it soon became apparent that was not his real name. He said that he represented a group of men who wanted to offer direction to humanity, but to date, almost two decades later, no one knows who R. C. Christian really was, or the names of those he represented. Several things are apparent. The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields: (1) Governance and the establishment of a world government, (2) Population and reproduction control, (3) The environment and man''s relationship to nature, and (4) Spirituality.

[kjvprophet]

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world''s people. The Georgia Guidestones'' reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones'' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality. The message of the American Stonehenge also foreshadowed the current drive for Sustainable Development. Any time you hear the phrase "Sustainable Development" used, you should substitute the term "socialism" to be able to understand what is intended. Later in this syllabus you will read the full text of the Earth Charter which was compiled under the direction of Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong. In that document you will find an emphasis on the same basic issues: control of reproduction, world governance, the importance of nature and the environment, and a new spirituality. The similarity between the ideas engraved on the Georgia Guidestones and those espoused in the Earth Charter reflect the common origins of both.

[kjvprophet]

What is the true significance of the Georgia Guidestones, and why is its covert message important? Because it confirms the fact that there was a covert group, with lots of money to spend on huge granite monument, which is intent on

(1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
(2) Promoting environmentalism.
(3) Establishing a world government.
(4) Promoting a new spirituality.

Certainly the group that commissioned the Georgia Guidestones is one of many similar groups working together toward a New World Order, a new world economic system, and a new world spirituality. Behind those groups, however, are dark spiritual forces. Without understanding the nature of those dark forces it is impossible to understand the unfolding of world events.The fact that most Americans have never heard of the Georgia Guidestones or their message to humanity reflects the degree of control that exists today over what the American people think. We ignore that message at our peril.

[kjvprophet]

Since its first meeting over 50 years ago, the Bilderberg Group, a secretive gathering of global power brokers, which includes Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, et.al., has inspired layer upon layer of ridicule. In recent times, the deeds laid at the group''s doorstep have included the creation of the European Union, the invasion of Iraq as well as the group''s current efforts to create a North American Union, which will erase U.S. borders and national sovereignty. All to service its most cherished goal: the creation of a world government. After it was reported that a well-received speech by Senator John Edwards at their meeting in Stresa, Italy, was one reason for his selection as John Kerry''s vice-presidential running mate in 2000, people began to ask, "Is the Bilderberg Group now molding the worldwide political scene?" Over 120 of the world''s most powerful monarchs, politicians and business leaders attend the annual, invitation-only gatherings to discuss global issues and to formulate their own policy objectives. The hotels involved are closed-off to other guests, and to reporters. Guards are placed around the perimeter. Attendees promise to keep quiet about what they hear and say. "They do not have to sign anything, but they understand that they do not talk," said Maja Banck-Polderman, the organization''s Secretary. Tony Gosling, a British reporter who has followed the group says, "I think that a forum where so many rich and powerful people meet should be open to public scrutiny."

[kjvprophet]

Right alongside the widely-held notion that Santa Claus slides down my chimney on Christmas, when I consider the myth than mankind is somehow to blame for global warming and that we should therefore pay a global Carbon Tax administered by the U.N. (coming soon, folks), two quotes come to mind:

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda minister

"That propaganda is good which leads to success, and that is bad which fails to achieve the desired result. It is not propaganda''s task to be intelligent, its task is to lead to success."
- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister